Re: [Flightgear-devel] p51d-jsbsim merge request.

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Hal V. Engel wrote: It would be really nice to get a similar pano of a D/K cockpit since that would be very helpful getting the cockpit modeled. This is the only one I'm aware of, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, I recently implemented the GPWS according to the tutorial: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/GPWS and let it merged into FGdata To my own surprise it isn't working, though I can remember that the same tutorial worked perfectly shortly after fixing of the GPWS. I tried to fix it and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread Scott Hamilton
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 11:33 +, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi, I recently implemented the GPWS according to the tutorial: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/GPWS and let it merged into FGdata To my own surprise it isn't working, though I can remember that the same tutorial worked

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Nov 2010, at 12:37, Scott Hamilton wrote: I'd be interested to hear how this goes, I also implemented everything according to the Wiki tutorial, I remember it all worked quite a while ago, but I can't remember the last time I heard it working... Thorsten B has done a huge amount of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Thorsten B has done a huge amount of work on the GPWS in the past few months, my impression is that with the latest Git code, it's working better than at any point in its history - with the caveat, assuming you have configured it correctly! James We just followed ThorstenB's wiki

[Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread thorsten . i . renk
I'd like to let everyone know that I just finished a project assigning each aircraft model/cockpit a number between 0 and 10 indicating the visual level of quality of the cockpit. The results can be found in the forum here: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=10080 Why did I do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch, next, updated. d66903e9ad63b91182ccc25d9bb82f18f8dd98b6

2010-11-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Nov 2010, at 13:14, Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: commit c44948041b9356c9d16acc2d888de109bf7866e7 Author: Erik Hofman Date: Mon Nov 29 09:57:45 2010 +0100 PAtch by Andreas Gaeb to eliminate NaN's in the location code Erik, can you talk a little about what this patch fixes? I can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch, next, updated. d66903e9ad63b91182ccc25d9bb82f18f8dd98b6

2010-11-30 Thread Erik Hofman
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 14:03 +, James Turner wrote: On 30 Nov 2010, at 13:14, Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: PAtch by Andreas Gaeb to eliminate NaN's in the location code Erik, can you talk a little about what this patch fixes? I can read the description, and it sounds really great,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: What do the numbers mean? = Roughly, anything below 5 means that it isn't really finished and that I think they should be alpha status. 7 and 8 are really nice cockpits, and 9 an 10 usually create a spontaneous 'wow!'. I think the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Tim Moore
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote: thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: What do the numbers mean? = Roughly, anything below 5 means that it isn't really finished and that I think they should be alpha status. 7 and 8 are really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Tim Moore wrote: I for one really enjoyed the list and plan to check out some of the more highly rated ones with which I'm not familiar. I can't believe that the ratings will come as a surprise to any aircraft developer, and I hope that their egos aren't so fragile as to be discouraged by a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Tim Moore timoor...@gmail.com wrote: I for one really enjoyed the list and plan to check out some of the more highly rated ones with which I'm not familiar. I can't believe that the ratings will come as a surprise to any aircraft developer, and I hope that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Nov 2010, at 17:04, Tim Moore wrote: If I were you, I'd refrain from posting ratings as 'delicate' as this one. I for one really enjoyed the list and plan to check out some of the more highly rated ones with which I'm not familiar. I can't believe that the ratings will come as a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Gijs de Rooy
I do like Thorsten's list, especially since he attached images of each single cockpit. This makes it clear at what time of development he checked the aircraft. Anyway, it is still a delicate subject and I don't think we'll ever find a rating system that works for all... Curt wrote: 1. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2010-11-30 Thread Curtis Olson
Thanks Chris, Your letter seems pretty fairly written. What's emerging as my biggest concern with this guy is the number of people we are hearing from who haven't been able to get a refund without filing a complaint with their credit card company and going to extreme measures. That makes the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Nov 2010, at 17:30, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Bring us back to an old discussion. This was implemented in the wiki, but without dozens of people voting per-aircraft it isn't very usefull... (most votings are just the single author's 5 stars I guess :P) I voted! And I didn't make a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Curtis Olson
Cool, I wasn't aware of the wiki voting Here's a random idea: if we put the wiki link for each aircraft in the corresponding aircraft-set.xml file we could automatically link to it from the aircraft download page ... Curt. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: I do like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Curt wrote: Here's a random idea: if we put the wiki link for each aircraft in the corresponding aircraft-set.xml file we could automatically link to it from the aircraft download page ... Wouldn't it be easier to create redirect in the wiki from (for example)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Nov 2010, at 18:16, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to create redirect in the wiki from (for example) http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/f-14b to http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat This would only require you to add a link with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread ThorstenB
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: Thorsten B has done a huge amount of work on the GPWS in the past few months, my impression is that with the latest Git code, it's working better than at any point in its history - with the caveat, assuming you have configured it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi ThorstenB, Yes, I kind of adopted the GPWS. And there haven't been any recent changes, so the wiki description should still be correct (unless there was a mistake from the beginning...). I tried it shortly after you finished the tutorial and it worked perfect. Now it stopped working...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC client

2010-11-30 Thread Eftychios Eftychiou
There is already an open source radar display screen http://www.albatross.aero/ It can take as input asterix formated data ( http://www.eurocontrol.int/asterix/public/subsite_homepage/homepage.html) If FG or MPserver can provide an asterisk stream then it can be easily fed to albatross. Regards,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Thorsten wrote -Original Message- From: thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi [mailto:thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi] Sent: 30 November 2010 10:49 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating I'd like to let everyone know that I just finished a

[Flightgear-devel] More good news on the FPS front...

2010-11-30 Thread Gene Buckle
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:15:39 + (GMT) From: The Flight Simulator Network m...@flightsimulatornetwork.com Reply-To: do-not-re...@flightsimulatornetwork.com To: ge...@deltasoft.com ge...@deltasoft.com Subject: Flight Pro Sim A message to all members of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC client

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Eftychios Eftychiou wrote: There is already an open source radar display screen http://www.albatross.aero/ I'm surprised to read that they're actually now having source code on offer, do you have a pointer to the code ? It can take as input asterix formated data (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread ThorstenB
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: I had a look into, even ported the related subsystems over to the 733, but no success. Scott (working on the A380) noticed the same with the wiki-tutorial and the GPWS. Interesting to know and maybe a hint: A380 and 733 are both JSBsim.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: A thick-skin is a requirement for [...] everyone who's seriously trying to survive in the FlightGear developer's shark tank ;-) [...], but I'd hate to do anything which means people keep aircraft 'secret' until they are 'finished' - we already know that leads to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread Victhor
Last time I used the radar-altimeter instrument it took too much time IMO to update. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: I had a look into, even ported the related subsystems over to the 733, but no success. Scott (working on the A380) noticed the same with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Martin Spott wrote: James Turner wrote: A thick-skin is a requirement for [...] everyone who's seriously trying to survive in the FlightGear developer's shark tank ;-) Any time someone criticizes my work I just watch a funny cat video like this one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:41 AM, cullam Bruce-Lockhart wrote: 1. you could cut out holes where the cliff polygons are situated, leaving these areas open in the final terragear result, and then place custom object models in those holes. You might be able to leverage

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2010-11-30 Thread Chris Wilkinson
Cheers Curt, I'll keep writing letters to any e-site that publishes his material. I've also asked my facebook friends to click on his ads, then go back and remove them for being misleading. For at least the last 20 years I've happily stood up and raised my fist against many persons or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: Any time someone criticizes my work I just watch a funny cat video like this one and that really helps me feel better ... Aaaah, good recipe, will try next time ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Right, that is related to the problem. Depending on configuration the GPWS relies on a specific altitude source which is only available for YASim right now. You could switch the category-8 parameter to 3 (instead of 2) - and the GPWS will work with JSBSim and other FDMs. Yep, does

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Nov 2010, at 21:55, Heiko Schulz wrote: We had this now several times now here on the list. My thought about this is before I report a bug to the bug-tracker, I want to know first if the bug isn't sitting in front of the pc.;-) It's much better to create a bug, and have it closed 30

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Flight Pro Sim Statement

2010-11-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:10:19 +0100, Gijs wrote in message dub102-w12a229e288e123c22a53c5d3...@phx.gbl: In order to promote our statement, I've created a YouTube video, explaining some basic things about FlightSimPro and the like, and reference the viewers to our statement. If we all vote

[Flightgear-devel] Scenemodels/MapServer.flightgear.org, planned outage

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Hi folks, both sites - actually just two different Apache virtual hosts, running on the same system, fed from the same database - are subject to being transferred to a new system. Therefore you might will encounter inconsistencies during the phase of system- and DNS-transition, probably for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GPWS-implementation on the 733 failed- can someone help?

2010-11-30 Thread ThorstenB
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: As this is a pretty accurate emulation of the real thing (or maybe it is even the real thing.. ;-)), how it gets its datas in real life? What is the source in reallife? The RL device may be configured to a number of radio altimeters -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-11-30 Thread syd adams
I think the list is a good start , but as already mentioned , I'm my own worst critic. Rating my own work , I'd say decent 3d model , working FDM's but plenty of room for improvement , and a FAIL for autopilot configuration . Hopefully I can get back to work on them once life stabilizes here , and

[Flightgear-devel] development directory

2010-11-30 Thread syd adams
Hi guys, how do I set the path for the development aircraft ... outside the FG-ROOT/Aircraft. I did some searching but couldn't find the email that announced this recent change. Thanks -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D

Re: [Flightgear-devel] development directory

2010-11-30 Thread syd adams
found it : --fg-aircraft=/my/addons; On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, how do I set the path for the development aircraft ... outside the FG-ROOT/Aircraft. I did some searching but couldn't  find the email that announced this recent change.

[Flightgear-devel] the 3d clouds rendering in the server accustomed to the client

2010-11-30 Thread king
how can i render the 3d clouds in the server according to the setting by the client?i just simple add a new item in the fdm for expeiment:fgSetString(/environment/clouds/layer[0]/coverage, few);but it didn't work.Is it possible to render the 3d clouds in real time accustomed to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] development directory

2010-11-30 Thread Jacob Burbach
I also needed to add an entry in Nasal/IOrules to allow reading in my custom aircraft directories when using this in order for most aircraft to load properly. This should be changed imho as IOrules has a READ entry for $FG_AIRCRAFT/* already, and I would think explicitly added aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC client

2010-11-30 Thread Eftychios Eftychiou
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote: Eftychios Eftychiou wrote: There is already an open source radar display screen http://www.albatross.aero/ I'm surprised to read that they're actually now having source code on offer, do you have a pointer to the