Re: [Flightgear-users] pre-release 0.9.9 on Win32

2005-11-22 Thread Eric Brasseur
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Kevin, I think that you spoke the truth but that the truth is not always what matters. I think we shouldn't care about who has "merits" and who is "responsible". The Open Source strategy is brilliant. To me FlightGear just has some problems of

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Vivian Meazza: Fred I can reproduce the 737 problem here at will. I have some spare time Wednesday, morning or afternoon for a debug session if that would help I don't have any spare time before Sunday. If it is ok, I must prepare a debug kit before. -Fred

Re: [Flightgear-users] English: Problems launching FlightGear v0.9.9 after setup

2005-11-22 Thread Robicd
I think the problem is the --lang=D option which is not known the the program. My configuration: WinXP,FlightGear v.0.9.9 If I set --lang=D I get an Unknown option '--lang=D' error message in the FlightGear Launcher DOS Window (try scrolling up the window, you will find something similar at

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred Quoting Vivian Meazza: Fred I can reproduce the 737 problem here at will. I have some spare time Wednesday, morning or afternoon for a debug session if that would help I don't have any spare time before Sunday. If it is ok, I must prepare a debug kit before. At your

Re: [Flightgear-users] English: Problems launching FlightGear v0.9.9 after setup

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Robicd : I think the problem is the --lang=D option which is not known the the program. My configuration: WinXP,FlightGear v.0.9.9 If I set --lang=D I get an Unknown option '--lang=D' error message in the FlightGear Launcher DOS Window (try scrolling up the window, you will find

RE: [Flightgear-users] pre-release 0.9.9 on Win32

2005-11-22 Thread MPCEE French Bureau
Hello: I can really echo your sentiments, as a Windows user. With four computers here (Windows XP) I do not have an option to change them from a work point of view, but I have recently been seeking an alternative to run FG. With the help of Arnt, we have been trying to get one of the computers to

RE: AW: [Flightgear-users] FG 0.9.9 Crashes on launch

2005-11-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hello Dene I have done some testing on a very old box today and all I can say is it is a problem with the graphics card or your operating system or both.It is certainly not the speed of your machine. In light of this thread I loaded windows 98se onto a 2 gig drive on a PII 400Mhz machine took my

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
dene maxwell wrote: Hi Curt, Is c:\windows\applog\fgfs.lgc the right file to look at? That file comes out at 54kbyte on my attempt to startup. Contains alot hex numbers, who is this going to be useful to? I have no knowledge of that file. Does it contain FG related messages? Curt. --

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: At your service, sir. Monday would be good, rather than Sunday. I'm beginning to find more bugs. The Seafire cannot be started under Win-0.9.9. The {} keys don't seem to work. I had trouble with that one too I think, but it turned out to be something system related

[Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Hello, I spite of that big noise surrounding reals difficulties with FG 0.9.9 Windows release. I have an innocent question: Looking at 737 which is a very good ac (congratulation to the Authors), i am digging into it and i find /systems/electrical/amps[0]= -30 Is it usual to have that value ?

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Dave Culp
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 07:34 am, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Looking at 737 which is a very good ac (congratulation to the Authors), i find /systems/electrical/amps[0]= -30 Is it usual to have that value ? or is it a bad electrical initialization ? volts = 24 is right I have ignored the

[Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread MPCEE French Bureau
Hello Alistair: Thank you; Nimitz is placed on my FGv9.9. Some observations, after having read the Read Me file etc: What is the keyboard control for raising and lowering the hook? When toggling the cockpit instruments, to use the TACAN, the ADF and DME are not functioning when seeking out the

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 13:42, Dave Culp wrote: I have ignored the electrical system because, last time I looked, it is not suited for non-GA aircraft. Probably true for the XML system - the new nasal electrical system is capable of simulating pretty much anything as far as I can see,

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 07:42 -0600, Dave Culp a écrit : On Tuesday 22 November 2005 07:34 am, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Looking at 737 which is a very good ac (congratulation to the Authors), i find /systems/electrical/amps[0]= -30 Is it usual to have that value ? or is it a bad

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 14:15 +, AJ MacLeod a écrit : On Tuesday 22 November 2005 13:42, Dave Culp wrote: I have ignored the electrical system because, last time I looked, it is not suited for non-GA aircraft. Probably true for the XML system - the new nasal electrical system is

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Gerard ROBIN wrote: Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 14:15 +, AJ MacLeod a écrit : On Tuesday 22 November 2005 13:42, Dave Culp wrote: I have ignored the electrical system because, last time I looked, it is not suited for non-GA aircraft. Probably true for the XML system - the

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 15:07 +0100, MPCEE French Bureau a écrit : Hello Alistair: Thank you; Nimitz is placed on my FGv9.9. Some observations, after having read the Read Me file etc: What is the keyboard control for raising and lowering the hook? When toggling the cockpit instruments,

[Flightgear-users] Atlas and 9.9

2005-11-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi All I know that this question should go to the Atlas list but up till now I seem to have been able to work around any problems. I have always run Atlas from a bat file in the Flightgear directory but now when I put Atlas 0.3 in the bin folder and run the bat file I get this line.

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 15:07 +0100, MPCEE French Bureau a écrit : Hello Alistair: Thank you; Nimitz is placed on my FGv9.9. Some observations, after having read the Read Me file etc: What is the keyboard control for raising and lowering the hook? When toggling the cockpit instruments,

Re: [Flightgear-users] Atlas and 9.9

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All I know that this question should go to the Atlas list but up till now I seem to have been able to work around any problems. I have always run Atlas from a bat file in the Flightgear directory but now when I put Atlas 0.3 in the bin folder

RE: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 ==/systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hello Gerard The 737 uses the generic elec system in FG which is 24 volts.I think the only thing they use 24 volts for on the 737 is to keep the beer cold. :-) My poor attempt at humour so no need to list the 500 odd things that are powered by the 24 or is it 28 volt system on the 737. I am

[Flightgear-users] Atlas and 9.9

2005-11-22 Thread MPCEE French Bureau
Hello Innis: I am using FGTools if I run the two together and although I use C:, the drive does not matter, if the configuration is pointing to where the .exe is. I.E C:\FlightGear99\bin\Win32 on its own or, C:\FlightGear\data\atlas if in FGTools. Georg put me right here, by saying it should be

Re: [Flightgear-users] Atlas and 9.9

2005-11-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Thanks Fred Frederic Bouvier writes Quoting Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All I know that this question should go to the Atlas list but up till now I seem to have been able to work around any problems. I have always run Atlas from a bat file in the Flightgear directory but now

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
AJ MacLeod wrote: Yeah, I'm not holding the 172's implementation of a nasal electrical system as any kind of ideal (actually, I don't like it very much, although I don't claim to be able to produce anything significantly better). Really what I'm saying is; as far as I can see, the nasal

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 15:36, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I should point out that unlike you, I have no electrical engineering background at all. I know you plug the cord into the hole in the wall and hit the power button. If that doesn't work you buy a new gizmo, or if all your gizmos are

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 09:36 -0600, Curtis L. Olson a écrit : AJ MacLeod wrote: I should point out that unlike you, I have no electrical engineering background at all. I know you plug the cord into the hole in the wall and hit the power button. If that doesn't work you buy a

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt Vivian Meazza wrote: At your service, sir. Monday would be good, rather than Sunday. I'm beginning to find more bugs. The Seafire cannot be started under Win-0.9.9. The {} keys don't seem to work. I had trouble with that one too I think, but it turned out to be something

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Er ... I'm the author of that model: I don't think it's a system problem. I can't get the magnetos to switch on, either by using {} or the clickable panel. It works under Cygwin. The controls work as advertised here. Both magnetos on, both fuel cocks on, prime five

RE: AW: [Flightgear-users] FG 0.9.9 Crashes on launch

2005-11-22 Thread dene maxwell
Just a couple of things Innis; 0.9.8a started fine and worked within a few minor limitations (long flights over land in fast a/c seemed to make the autopilot lose a grip at about 2 hours). and The PC is running Me. As this is my partners PC and she gets would have a fit if I started

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Thank you; Nimitz is placed on my FGv9.9. Some observations, after having read the Read Me file etc: What is the keyboard control for raising and lowering the hook? When toggling the cockpit instruments, to use the TACAN, the ADF and DME are not functioning when seeking out the

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt Vivian Meazza wrote: Er ... I'm the author of that model: I don't think it's a system problem. I can't get the magnetos to switch on, either by using {} or the clickable panel. It works under Cygwin. The controls work as advertised here. Both magnetos on, both fuel cocks

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread dene maxwell
it contains what looks like hex dumps interspersed with some file names that are FG related. If this isn't the appropriate file where does FG log too? Dene From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: FlightGear user

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Vivian Meazza : Curt Vivian Meazza wrote: Er ... I'm the author of that model: I don't think it's a system problem. I can't get the magnetos to switch on, either by using {} or the clickable panel. It works under Cygwin. The controls work as advertised

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Jon Stockill
Gerard ROBIN wrote: Later on, i will try to include in Crusader the emergency air driven generator which was (the history said it ) often useful. I need to learn how to process with Nasal, the main electrical functions of an a/c. Not sure to be able to, it could take time. They're found on

Re: [Flightgear-users] FG at cafepress

2005-11-22 Thread David Luff
Pigeon writes: Just came across this: http://www.cafepress.com/fgfs_gear Anyone knows who started it? I think it was John Check, who is no longer active in FG, but I could be mistaken. Cheers - Dave ___ Flightgear-users

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Is c:\windows\applog\fgfs.lgc the right file to look at? That file comes out at 54kbyte on my attempt to startup. Contains alot hex numbers, who is this going to be useful to? I have no knowledge of that file. Does it contain FG related messages? it contains what looks like hex dumps

Re: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737 == /systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Andy Ross
Jon Stockill wrote: Gerard ROBIN wrote: i will try to include in Crusader the emergency air driven generator They're found on quite a few aircraft, including early model harriers (they were removed - they wouldn't have been particularly useful that close to the ground anyway). Actually,

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred Quoting Vivian Meazza : Curt Vivian Meazza wrote: Er ... I'm the author of that model: I don't think it's a system problem. I can't get the magnetos to switch on, either by using {} or the clickable panel. It works under Cygwin. The

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Vivian Meazza a écrit : Could you try the c172 ? It seems to me I tried taht recently. On a french keyboard, it is a combinaison of 2 keys but it worked. I will try again this evening. I was guessing that the AZERTY keyboard might have crept in there. What is the key combination, I could

[Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread MPCEE French Bureau
Hello Vivian: When FG is running and from the Tool Bar I chose File Browse Internal Properties Instrumentation. There are two; the 2nd is the nearest, but relates to heading indicator and path. This refers to the Seahawk and is for xml. Nothing here refers to TACAN! If I am looking in something

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools

2005-11-22 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Benno Schulenberg wrote: Might I suggest doing releases more often? Maybe every two months (like for the Linux kernel) is a bit much, but every three of four months would be nice. Those of us who have the abilities to compile and create packages can

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon Frederic Bouvier : Vivian Meazza a écrit : Could you try the c172 ? It seems to me I tried taht recently. On a french keyboard, it is a combinaison of 2 keys but it worked. I will try again this evening. I was guessing that the AZERTY keyboard might have crept in there. What is

Re: [Flightgear-users] pre-release 0.9.9 on Win32

2005-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:59:27 +0100, MPCEE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello: I can really echo your sentiments, as a Windows user. With four computers here (Windows XP) I do not have an option to change them from a work point of view, but I have recently been seeking an

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:07:07 +0100, MPCEE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, a little reminiscing here, but I am hoping to use my favourite workhorse, Concorde, to do circuits and bumps on the Nimitz! ..guys, the --jpeg-factory server works for all ports of FG-0.9.9? With that,

RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools - Help Me to HelpYou

2005-11-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred Vivian Meazza a écrit : Could you try the c172 ? It seems to me I tried taht recently. On a french keyboard, it is a combinaison of 2 keys but it worked. I will try again this evening. I was guessing that the AZERTY keyboard might have crept in there. What is the key

RE: AW: [Flightgear-users] FG 0.9.9 Crashes on launch

2005-11-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Dene dene maxwell writes Just a couple of things Innis; 0.9.8a started fine and worked within a few minor limitations (long flights over land in fast a/c seemed to make the autopilot lose a grip at about 2 hours). This is not a totally new problem Durk Talsma found a year or so ago

RE: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737==/systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Bill Galbraith
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Innis Cunningham Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:13 AM To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737==/systems/electrical/amps Hello Gerard

RE: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac737==/systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Bill Galbraith writes Hello Gerard The 737 uses the generic elec system in FG which is 24 volts.I think the only thing they use 24 volts for on the 737 is to keep the beer cold. :-) My poor attempt at humour so no need to list the 500 odd things that are powered by the 24 or is it 28

[Flightgear-users] FGFS 0.9.9/Linux and GLX initialization error

2005-11-22 Thread gleepy
I installed fgfs by way of the configure/make/make install method. The 'configure' command was called as: $ configure --prefix=/usr/X11R6 --sysconfdir=/etc/X11 which is the way I configure just about all my X programs. There were some warnings generated by some of the After the make, make

RE: [Flightgear-users] The life go on: ac 737==/systems/electrical/amps

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 19:03 -0500, Bill Galbraith a écrit : Innis Cunningham Hello Gerard The 737 uses the generic elec system in FG which is 24 volts.I think the only thing they use 24 volts for on the 737 is to keep the beer cold. :-) My poor attempt at humour so no need

[Flightgear-users] Did you say Contrail ?

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Hello David, You where talking about Contrail. Not so far from Nice cote d'Azur (below) with the Nimitz cruising. Metar weather http://ghours.club.fr/Contrail-LFMN.jpg Cheers -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-users] FGFS 0.9.9/Linux and GLX initialization error

2005-11-22 Thread Sid Boyce
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed fgfs by way of the configure/make/make install method. The 'configure' command was called as: $ configure --prefix=/usr/X11R6 --sysconfdir=/etc/X11 which is the way I configure just about all my X programs. There were some warnings generated by some of

Re: [Flightgear-users] FGFS 0.9.9/Linux and GLX initialization error

2005-11-22 Thread Sid Boyce
Sid Boyce wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed fgfs by way of the configure/make/make install method. The 'configure' command was called as: $ configure --prefix=/usr/X11R6 --sysconfdir=/etc/X11 which is the way I configure just about all my X programs. There were some warnings

Re: [Flightgear-users] Did you say Contrail ?

2005-11-22 Thread Dave Culp
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:12 pm, Gerard ROBIN wrote: with the Nimitz cruising. Metar weather http://ghours.club.fr/Contrail-LFMN.jpg Your carrier has an escort I see :) Dave ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-users] FGFS 0.9.9/Linux and GLX initialization error

2005-11-22 Thread Enrique Vaamonde
hi there, this problem has been reported when using freeglut 2.4... you should either go back to version 2.2, or compile it from sources after applying a patch posted over freeglut's forums. If you need help finding that patch let me know. hope this helps, -E Sid Boyce wrote: Sid Boyce wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-users] Did you say Contrail ?

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le mardi 22 novembre 2005 à 20:50 -0600, Dave Culp a écrit : On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:12 pm, Gerard ROBIN wrote: with the Nimitz cruising. Metar weather http://ghours.club.fr/Contrail-LFMN.jpg Your carrier has an escort I see :) Dave Oh yes, The problem is: i don't remember

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools

2005-11-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 22, 2005 04:37 pm, Benno Schulenberg wrote: CVS-snapshots won't do, I think.  Most of the normal users will only install something when they've seen a version number go up. Benno We could always increase the revision number for the snapshots. For example, 0.9.10, 0.9.11, etc.

[Flightgear-users] Blue screen with instruments

2005-11-22 Thread Kristofer
I am attempting to run Flightgear 0.99 on Windows XP, intalled from the Windows installer provided from the download site. No matter which plane I choose or which airport I fly from (or runway for that matter), I end up with a blue screen with instruments (see

Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools

2005-11-22 Thread dene maxwell
Agree whole-heartedly, if i'd stuck with 0.9.8a and installed 0.9.9 as a beta test program I could have still enjoyed the occassional bit of flying and also delved into (and learnt more with a view to perhaps eventually contributing constructively to) the workings of FGFS. Just look at the

RE: AW: [Flightgear-users] FG 0.9.9 Crashes on launch

2005-11-22 Thread dene maxwell
From: Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: AW: [Flightgear-users] FG 0.9.9 Crashes on launch Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:51:10 +0800 Hi Dene dene maxwell writes Just a

[Flightgear-users] fgrun

2005-11-22 Thread Larry
Hi, I installed the Slackware binary package and fgfs works fine it seems but fgrun just quits with Aborted. It doesn't do anything but that. Any Ideas?? Thanks -- LINUX is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity. ___

[Flightgear-users] carriers

2005-11-22 Thread Larry
Where do I find the carriers? I tried doing fgfs --carrier=nimitz but it told me it couldn't find nimitz. :) Thanks -- LINUX is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list

[Flightgear-users] Re: carriers

2005-11-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Larry -- Wednesday 23 November 2005 08:12: Where do I find the carriers? I tried doing fgfs --carrier=nimitz but it told me it couldn't find nimitz. :) http://www.seedwiki.com/wiki/flight_gear/aircraft_carrier_howto.cfm?wpid=209315 http://members.aon.at/mfranz/nimitz.jpg [22 kB] m.