Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
Le mercredi 14 septembre 2005 à 22:22 +0100, AJ MacLeod a écrit : The more people testing CVS and finding bugs, the better the next release is going to be, and that benefits everyone. Cheers, AJ Recently i tried to use again the CVS release, We cannot fly under a bridge or taxiing into a hangar. Is it a bug. ? Cheers -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
I'm considering doing an update of my version 0.9.8 which I installed after its release in February. At that time I installed plib, simgear, and FG through CVS checkout of source and data to my system running linux (FC2). The previous few full installs (configure, make, make install) I've done in the past have gone well, and after 15-20 minutes of issuing commands everything usually works. Can anyone give me a few pros and cons to doing an update? I believe the command is update after logging in to cvs, correct? What is the exact syntax? Are there lots of nifty new additions to the sim that suggest I might want to do the update? I'm really pretty happy right now flying 0.9.8 as it was released. Want to be sure I know what I'm doing before trying to update (and maybe screw up what I have now...). Cheers, Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
Mike Rawlins wrote: I'm considering doing an update of my version 0.9.8 which I installed after its release in February. At that time I installed plib, simgear, and FG through CVS checkout of source and data to my system running linux (FC2). The previous few full installs (configure, make, make install) I've done in the past have gone well, and after 15-20 minutes of issuing commands everything usually works. Can anyone give me a few pros and cons to doing an update? I believe the command is update after logging in to cvs, correct? What is the exact syntax? cvs -z3 up -Pd Are there lots of nifty new additions to the sim that suggest I might want to do the update? Yes, we've been very active lately (thanks anyone). I'm really pretty happy right now flying 0.9.8 as it was released. Want to be sure I know what I'm doing before trying to update (and maybe screw up what I have now...). Maybe you just want ot back it up before doing the update? Erik ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 14:29, Mike Rawlins wrote: I believe the command is update after logging in to cvs, correct? What is the exact syntax? The instructions on the cvs downloads page on the FG and SG websites are pretty straightforward - if you follow them you shouldn't go too far wrong. Are there lots of nifty new additions to the sim that suggest I might want to do the update? Certainly - graphics-wise we now have some very nice 3d clouds and shadows for both aircraft and buildings. The carrier is pretty much fully operational - i.e. one can take off and land on it, as well as have a degree of control over its course (order it to head into the wind, for example). The other, really excellent update that I can think of is to the mulitplayer system. Credit for this lies mainly with Oliver Schroeder (http://www.o-schroeder.de/fg_server). His latest patch has not made it into CVS yet, and can be found here for now http://www.adeptopensource.co.uk/personal/misc/mp-os2-3.patch That patch is just OS' os2-2 patch trivially modifed to compile against the most current CVS which changed while he was away - I'm sure he'll have an updated version on his own website very shortly. Instructions for joining the FlightGear multiplayer server can be found on the FlightGear wiki and on Oliver's website... a great online map of currently connected clients is available at http://pigeond.net/flightgear/fg_server_map.html The difference that having real traffic makes to the whole FG experience is amazing! I'm really pretty happy right now flying 0.9.8 as it was released. Want to be sure I know what I'm doing before trying to update (and maybe screw up what I have now...). Like Curt said, you can keep both, as I do - I just build and install the latest CVS under my /home directory, by specifiying appropriate --prefix when running ./configure. Cheers, AJ ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
--- AJ MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 14:29, Mike Rawlins wrote: I'm really pretty happy right now flying 0.9.8 as it was released. Want to be sure I know what I'm doing before trying to update (and maybe screw up what I have now...). Like Curt said, you can keep both, as I do - I just build and install the latest CVS under my /home directory, by specifiying appropriate --prefix when running ./configure. Cheers, AJ Thanks AJ, Curt, and Erik. Sounds like I should do a complete build and install from cvs rather than using the update command. What is the advantage of doing cvs update? Seems to me that update would be used more frequently than a full checkout (eg weekly basis). So since it's been 7-8 months since I installed 0.9.8, I might as well do a complete install of source to another directory. And as Curt said, this will allow me to keep the working version as it now stands. Mike __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
Le mercredi 14 septembre 2005 à 15:40 +0100, AJ MacLeod a écrit : On Wednesday 14 September 2005 14:29, Mike Rawlins wrote: I believe the command is update after logging in to cvs, correct? What is the exact syntax? The instructions on the cvs downloads page on the FG and SG websites are pretty straightforward - if you follow them you shouldn't go too far wrong. Are there lots of nifty new additions to the sim that suggest I might want to do the update? Certainly - graphics-wise we now have some very nice 3d clouds and shadows for both aircraft and buildings. The carrier is pretty much fully operational - i.e. one can take off and land on it, as well as have a degree of control over its course (order it to head into the wind, for example). The other, really excellent update that I can think of is to the mulitplayer system. Ho it is not perfect: with metar activated FG crash with Yasim ac FDM and gives some smog with JSB ac FDM. I think you must wait before using CVS. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
Mike Rawlins wrote: Thanks AJ, Curt, and Erik. Sounds like I should do a complete build and install from cvs rather than using the update command. What is the advantage of doing cvs update? The advantage of cvs update is that you can keep your source tree current with all the latest development changes. If you are talking about your bringing your v0.9.8 tree up to current and trying to decide if you should check out a new tree, or just update the existing one, that's more of a personal preference. If you want to keep your v0.9.8 tree intact then just check out a new copy. If you are worried about bandwidth, then a cvs udpate might save you a few bytes transfered. Seems to me that update would be used more frequently than a full checkout (eg weekly basis). So since it's been 7-8 months since I installed 0.9.8, I might as well do a complete install of source to another directory. And as Curt said, this will allow me to keep the working version as it now stands. Yup, cvs is just a tool, you get to decide how best you want to use it. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:34, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Ho it is not perfect: No software ever is, to my knowledge :-) with metar activated FG crash with Yasim ac FDM and gives some smog with JSB ac FDM. True, I'd forgotten to mention that temporary pitfall. I'm sure Harald will have it patched in no time though. Hardly a reason to avoid testing the other features... I think you must wait before using CVS. Rubbish - just don't enable METAR for now. I doubt it's enabled by default anyway, and if someone with the wits to check out and compile the CVS version comes across a problem, they're likely to have the wits to search the list archives and soon see how to work around. The more people testing CVS and finding bugs, the better the next release is going to be, and that benefits everyone. Cheers, AJ ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
Le mercredi 14 septembre 2005 à 22:22 +0100, AJ MacLeod a écrit : On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:34, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Ho it is not perfect: No software ever is, to my knowledge :-) with metar activated FG crash with Yasim ac FDM and gives some smog with JSB ac FDM. True, I'd forgotten to mention that temporary pitfall. I'm sure Harald will have it patched in no time though. Hardly a reason to avoid testing the other features... I think you must wait before using CVS. Rubbish - just don't enable METAR for now. I doubt it's enabled by default anyway, and if someone with the wits to check out and compile the CVS version comes across a problem, they're likely to have the wits to search the list archives and soon see how to work around. The more people testing CVS and finding bugs, the better the next release is going to be, and that benefits everyone. Cheers, AJ OK it is not any perfect system, I just mean, if we recommend somebody to use CVS, the limitations must be explained. It is not a stable solution, i accept that some advantages are existing, but we get many disagreements from hard modifications, especially when we spend a lot of time in developing new models on the 9.8 -base, and using functionalities which suddenly disappear. I have been fg-devel subscriber (and i give up) to conclude that is better to wait the next stable release rather than running permanently behind an uncontrolled system (from the user point of view). It is not a criticism I applause to the progress and the quality of FG, but a usual user must know where he is going to when he goes to CVS. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
with metar activated FG crash with Yasim ac FDM and gives some smog with JSB ac FDM. True, I'd forgotten to mention that temporary pitfall. I'm sure Harald will have it patched in no time though. Hardly a reason to avoid testing the other features... Strange. Why should choice of FDM make a difference? Jon ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 19:18 -0500, Jon Berndt wrote: with metar activated FG crash with Yasim ac FDM and gives some smog with JSB ac FDM. True, I'd forgotten to mention that temporary pitfall. I'm sure Harald will have it patched in no time though. Hardly a reason to avoid testing the other features... Strange. Why should choice of FDM make a difference? Jon Jon, I can't answer that one. However Pigeon (sorry don't know his real name) and I confirmed that bug last night. He was going to post a back trace to the devel list. George ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Updating v0.9.8 via CVS
Le jeudi 15 septembre 2005 à 10:16 +0930, George Patterson a écrit : On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 19:18 -0500, Jon Berndt wrote: with metar activated FG crash with Yasim ac FDM and gives some smog with JSB ac FDM. True, I'd forgotten to mention that temporary pitfall. I'm sure Harald will have it patched in no time though. Hardly a reason to avoid testing the other features... Strange. Why should choice of FDM make a difference? Jon Jon, I can't answer that one. However Pigeon (sorry don't know his real name) and I confirmed that bug last night. He was going to post a back trace to the devel list. George Because i am no longer Devel subscriber i cannot give directly the following information: The cause of the crash is coming from fgclouds.cxx line 48 === last_scenario( none ), none is in conflict withmetar May be that could help Cheers -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
