Ah, the Robert Williams gambit!
M
(Frankly, I prefer my titles to my work about 40% of the time, but I'm
decadent.)
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>From: Crispin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Wed, May 22, 2002, 11:54 AM
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I think the title has becom a generic ploy to involve
the viewer. I recently had a show with no titles or
labels to identify myself as the artist. If i were to
title my works I believe i would write full paragraph,
not to guide the viewer but to show how absurd titles
have become.
crispin
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hi don,
first of all let me tell you i have breathed a great big sigh of relief that
you received your address book. the post office is not all bad.
as to 'untitled' i use a numbering system to keep track of the work and
sometimes i use untitled as the name. however recently i have been using
t
Carol, what was your answer? Mine would be to number my works. Most people
are looking for an "explanation" in verbal terms of a visual work. Most
musicians and the other examples given have no problem titling something to
aid the viewer in their quest (for verbal meaning) Myself, I don't wa
I think that being as people have been doing painting and sculpture since the
very beginning of the species and before, and they're still doing these
things in increasing numbers, it would be unwise to say "obsolete". In any
given buncha makers of anything there's going to be a fair number of bad
Quoting Micheal Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> well you are assuming wrong more like ie. it is not valid
Valid for what? You are not making any sense. It's like you are preacher saying
believe in God, have faith. Why? What authority has been granted you to define
painting as this general "in
in answer to the post;
FLUXLIST: Re: untitled
From:"Micheal Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
it seems it is most bad with the "traditional"
visual arts like painting and sculpture, which may point to the fact
those forms are obsolete in some way.
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Leaving a piece untitled implies that the "traditional" visual arts are
obsolete? That's a leap that I think very few could make. I know a lot of
people have pushed forward the idea that painting and sculpture are dead,
>i received this post and sent a simple answer ( it leaves the viewer
>free to see and experience unimpeded by a title) which is probably not the
>correct reply. thought maybe someone could give me a better one.
it might have more to do with a plethora of stupid titles persistent
in the visual a
i also feel that some of the titles i come up with when i first begin a
painting are embarrassingly personal or downright silly and so i choose
untitled which in effect it is a cover up of sorts.
i might add that especially the modernists liked to call their work
untitled
because they wanted the
seems like I'm trying to be ironic. Besides, aren't "Friends" episodes
title that same way?
Alex
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O but musicians often use names that function like "Untitled," such as Sonata in
B, say. There is much less tendency to use "untitled" for works that are texts or
function by articulating time like texts, because the titling moment is part of
the temporal structure of the text, and the text is (un
Carol Starr wrote:i received this post and sent a simple answer ( it leaves
the viewer
> free to
> see and experience unimpeded by a title)
> > So, here a question that I have often gotten an answer for, but the
> > answer always seems inadequate:
> >
> > Why do poets and painters not name the
I was just discussing this with a friend the other day. One, I think that
your answer carol is one part. "Untitled" gives the viewer no preconcieved
framework from which to view the piece. Also, sometimes the artist is too
close to the work emotionally and doesn't want to reveal what they were
hello all,
i received this post and sent a simple answer ( it leaves the viewer
free to
see and experience unimpeded by a title) which is probably not the
correct
reply. thought maybe someone could give me a better one.
bests, carol
> So, here a question that I have often gotten an answer fo
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