- Original Message -
From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writ
few if any of the remaining original-Fluxus artists or official Fluxus
Art
Historians have much of any desire or interest to support an entirely new
Fluxus with new people and new approaches. Perhaps I am wrong about
Dear
we don't say, 'how's the New weather even though what we are asking about
is
very new,
we say, 'how's the WEATHER'.
hee hee i like it!
nobody's really tried to lay claim to the weather, and where as there may be
many wonderful books on the weather no one's trying to sell it.
i like the
does anyone remember emmett williams' phrase which goes something like
'everyone knows what fluxus did but nobody knows whodunnit' or something, or
did i just dream it.
i'm sure i had it in one of my books, but.
it's been driving me crackers trying to a) remember the phrase b) find the
Real Weebles!
http://www.stuffwelove.co.uk/weebles.htm
Real Worrying!
http://homepage.mac.com/knarley/Personal6.html
Art Weebles
http://www.schoolshows.demon.co.uk/resources/articles/weebles.htm
this is up the road from where i used to live - i've never seen the piece as
i came to italy
just found this on my old site (ie the one i can no
longer access)
http://digilander.libero.it/jumper66/fffoweb/officesound.html
see what i have to put up with
(there are now 3 versions of the fffo s(h)ite
online, only one accessible by me! - something new in the pipeline
though!)
Very interesting!
I also noted that:
If you join the locations of Allen Bukoff's house, the point in the road
where the book was found and the Creanbrook Art Museum you get a triangle.
If you join the locations of Kid Rock's new mansion, Cranbrook Art museum
and the point in the road where the
Dear Allen,
Just out of interest, is the Fluxus Indian Museum still open? It was one of
the first 'fluxus' websites I discovered - wonderful stuff.
I've been trawling around the Fluxus Midwest sites, there's some great stuff
on there - Go fluxlisters! Go look!
Is the fluxlist still operative
In the email today...can we help?
To: alanfffo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:19 PM
Subject: Fwd:material about yoko ono
hello,
i'm an italian student at the venice ca' foscari
university, so i got in touch with your gallery.
i'm going to do a research for my degree
Dear All,
The Freeformfreakout Organisation is pleased to
announce 'A Musical Rendition of the Reason for the Freeformfreakout
Organisation'
Just go to http://fffo.0catch.com/and follow the
links (you might have to scroll right a bit as we are now working on a larger
monitor and are
Dear All and Sundried,
WANTED!
Small .wav format audio files, preferably
ofyou saying something (Short), for a new FFFO webpage.
There is a page up at http://fffo.0catch.com/heads.html,
(i hope it works!) that should give you some idea of what I want to do.
this page is just a test and
http://fffo.0catch.com/sing.html
Oh! I say! Did you, erm, err.?
Yes, I think I rather did.
Aha, hmmm..best keep mum, what?
Yes, I think that's rather the right way to go, what?
Yes...More Brandy?
http://fffo.0catch.com/eh.html
http://fffo.0catch.com/eh.html
http://fffo.0catch.com/eh.html
Oh! I say! Did you, erm, err.?
Yes, I think I rather did.
Aha, hmmm..best keep mum, what?
Yes, I think that's rather the right way to go, what?
Yes...More Brandy?
http://fffo.0catch.com/eh.html
http://fffo.0catch.com/eh.html
http://fffo.0catch.com/eh.html
dear all
the fffo is trying to help an italian friend here with some research on yoko
ono. not being a yoko expert, bowman has asked us to ask you if you could
suggest some good sources, also if anyone has contact information for jon
hendricks as he has, true to form, lost a whole load of
1.happy new year to all
2.it's got something to do with the way you make a tube. (i've seen
people do it with cigarette papers)
3. drove into manchester by mistake once, on the way back from wales
fluxus in the basement
i found a plastic 'ice cube' in the basement if 537 broadway, the building
in which george maciunas had the apartment in which he was beaten up. i was
going to or returning from checking out ay-o's 'black hole', also in this
basement. 537 broadway is also home to the
, and then we went home!
- Original Message -
From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Meeting Alan Bowman
That's what I'm talking about...
Alan: You must be Melissa -- would you like to go for a drink?
- Original Message -
From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Meeting Alan Bowman
you know, if roger where going to meet allen bukoff, none of this would
be
necessary - in fact it would
http://fffo.0catch.com/fffomusic.html
just out of interest did anyone find the mp3 hidden on this page? did it
work?
WARNING - i checked out this page from another, pop-up blocker free pc.
there are a few ads and pop ups
sorry, i didn't know, my thingies block them all out so id idn't see any
ooops! Forgot to include the url -- http://www.bonafideart.com
daarlink! simply love the site, mwuah!
well done melissa, it's really rather good, what!
xxalan
sorry, couldn't resist
it's beautifully done though!
http://fun.sdinet.de/flash/games/yp010.swf
yesterday, saturday the 31st january i had
the great pleasure of spending the day with roger stevens and his wife jill,
here in vence. well not actually here, as i'm not actually in venice, just
very,very close.roger and jill are in venice, however. he's
just phoned asking for the address
Hi all,
It's 25 years today since Sid Vicious died
how strange...just last night we sat down and watched julien temple's 'the
filth and the fury' - the sex pistols bio. i had no idea it was sid's
anniversary.
for those who don't know the story or even the reason for the pistols, and i
any mp3s get those old cassettes digitised now! You know you kept them
the malicious bros were me and my brother, but seeing he never did anything
at all, they were just me. and i used to play me dad's garage, and a
guitar.
the cassettes came a little later when i became gateshead's
sol:
Have you got any of your current music online? Are you still playing
in
your Venetian garage band?
no and no. sadly.
i am out of web space at the moment, the new space i have (which should be
renamed popupfrenzy.com wont let me host mp3s, zip or winrar files, i)
any suggestions?
please grow some hair, though. the last thing the world needs is another
bald .. guy.
hey! let's start sticking nationalities and religions, sexual persuasions,
ethnic origins etc etc in here - (fight! fight! fight! fight!)
fluxobscenities, fluxenophobia,
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/roger/roger1.html
Erm, I pressed send without actually saying what this was. (It's Saturday
evening and all the stall are at the bingo, so I'm having to do this myself)
Anyway the fffo oh dear the camera's still next to the telephone but we're
already on the bus division present...
doo diddle doo doo doo
all the stall are at the bingo, so I'm having to do this myself
boy can you tell!
stall =staff
very nice
very nice
m
owen
n
d
r
piet
a
n
no, i'm serious
it contained a zip file attachment, and said can't wait for your feedbak
:-) or something like that
alan
oh you big kidder...
i recieved a contaminated email today, one from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sorry to post this to the list...
...but...
who is it that's organising this student mail art thing? is it amy?
sorry i deleted the relevant mails (good eh!?) and i would like some more
info.
i recieved 2 very nice things in the post this week
hoorah!
alan
but who's the person responsible for the project??
i want to contact them about something...
alan
our description!
if you read what i wrote you'll see that i am not
talking about justification, art history or anything like that. but i do
believe that we need to have some way of explaining what we do (to ourselves at
least), in order for us to understand it ourselves.
my main point was,
nowt to do with fluxlist but nice all the same
http://www.neen.org/demo/clinger.swf
..that's not saying that the poets have nowt better to do like though
but
i have tried (once or twice) over the past few yaers to unravel these lyrics
by Renalso and the Loaf - surely one of the UK's finest exports!
Hambu Hodo
He fat o san di o su
He on show way fro omela
Ze an he ar
wow!
speedballs and screen printing!?!?!?!
i 'have' to have a tee-shirt done in this way!
i did sulphate angle grinding once, in a theatre in newcastle. the
technicians made us get smaller wheels!
alan
it would appear that i should perhaps drink less and use the spellchecker
more (re: certain rants)
so...
two lesses and cola and a pint of less and a sort of apology for my badly
written posts of late.
and me a prof. of english.tch!...the shame of it
a
dear mr/ms secretfluxus
are you going to offer something for discussion or just point us to books
that many of us may just well have have read?
ken was treated quite harshly by some (now ex, i believe) members of the
list, it would appear that his view of the list as a negative environment
has
dear admin
recently i have send messages to the fluxlist which have not shown up
am i being censored? (anyone remember that old chestnut?)
the mails were sent from work and therefore from the cwazy.co.uk address
are there filters in actio which may hinder things?
sorry to post this to the
thanks allen
your idea of what the fluxlist should be, i think i got back in 97/98 when
i joined. it's why i'm still here. (despite having met you...twice!)
alan
dear don and secretfluxus
i am not sure as to just where i was being harsh. i think allen has done
a wonderful job of explaining fluxlist, a point i was trying to make too.
i way on occasion be a cantankerous old bugger but i never intend to be
nasty.
if my tone seemed a little harsh, it was
dear dad
Now, back to your missing emails to fluxlist, alan. I am really eager to
read them so please repost. I can only imagine that they are better than
the ones we've been getting from you lately. More time at work and all
that.
you haven't seen the ones i just reposted!
your loving son
t's strange how much patricia meant
to me, and i never even met her - how does that work? eh?
anyway
alan bowman
via lorenzago 15 (int 7)
30174 mestre (VE)
venezia
italy
very bests
alan
(feel wanting tomention princess petal here and
don't really know how, but she mat
i'd like to get drunk
and run around re-arranging lawn
animals/gnomes/ornaments on lawns
WHen i was at school i used to roll up freshly laid lawns during the night,
or i'd re-lay them in a different direction/format
i got caught but tehy couldn't believe that i'd actually spend time doing
in italian the word for badger is the same for that as tax
bum doo de dum dum do,
bum doo de dum dum do,
bum doo de dum dum do,
cos i'm teh badgerman, yeah he,
the badgermaa-aa-n
we found a badger in a tree once in Alpago - it's true!
what's the format in european speak? is 8 1/2 x 11
us letter? we have A4 but that's in centimetres, narrower but longer, or
is it wider but shorter?
anywayroadhowthoughbut, what can we, here in the
lands of history use that will be ok?
i thinks a petal tribute is a lovely idea. I
like the
- Original Message -
From: Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: woman mashes dog - calling all gentry!
Man Bites Dog 42-page book made of fur, teeth, skin and bones
Kathy Forer, Roger Stevens, Michael Leigh,
who's keeping track of this story? do we have an editor?
is it one of those stories that depending on which option you choose (i.e.
which email you open) depends which way you go?
or something?
i like it!
why don't we just pass it around via private mails?
...although that means it'll be a little less random, as it'll only go to
one person at a a time...
unless we do it differentlyerm.
i got too confused with the different versions (mind you i get confused
trying to work out which shoe
are/is secretfluxus still on the list, or have they gone off to start a
'serious' one?
i hope so/not (no really!)
it all sort vof blew over very quickly and i feel non the wiser as to what
they are all about (apart from the 'performance ensemble' bit)
does anyone know the answer
(i heard it
If you're going to be like that then it's Professore Bowman (or Vice
Direttore Bowman)
http://humanityquest.com/topic/art_activities/index.asp?theme1=pomposity
Sincerely
Alan
like to get emails from myself too! but the other stuff's
nice
yours Dir. Prof. Alan Bowman (dad to be bar)
- Original Message -
From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: re: first prize is a wine colored smoking
dear dudes and ladydudes
why don't we get our reisdent boffin in the case of a fluxlist game?
sol? (and don't give me any of that erm i'm really rather busy mullarkey!
i went to university and i know that all staff do nowt really but drink
coffee, flaunt the no smoking regulations and try and
find that were produced BEFORE the Maciunas
player "died." With the help of a "Jon Hendricks" player, Silverman
takes these pieces and immediately starts another different game. At
some point the participants discover that eric anderson and alan bowman have
long ag
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: Piano Drop
how about if you dropped something, froma great
height, onto an openpiano? you could have a
competition...
something dropped onto the 'stings' for the highest
bounce
or
drop a handful of somethins onto the keyboard - the
person who gets the most recognisable
( how appropriate!) and Charlie Kunz. The one who does
the most damage is the winner.
Michael
Alan Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re:
FLUXLIST: Piano Drophow about if you dropped
something, froma great height, onto an open piano?
you could have a competition...
something dropped onto
That's it Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms. Secret Fluxus
get into the spirit of things!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pedantic
- Original Message -
From: secret fluxus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Al Hansen's Piano Drop
FFFO Event for Secret Fluxus
type yoko ono piano drop into the search box of google
a piece of performance art which he later called Yoko Ono Piano
Drop.
(This soon became one of his favorite party tricks.)
. As far as we
do
know, however, this Mr. Hansen
doesn't actually care
_
It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!
http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
Unless you claim some special standing as a Fluxus artist, we can't see
why
your interpretation of the Fluxus spirit has priority over ours.
i claim no special standing as anything, and i was in fact referring to the
spirit of fluxlist in general and that of ray's silly week.
you have no
does the missattribution really spoil the enjoyment of a piece?
Dear Secret Fluxus,
Thank you, (for more than just the apology) and I hope to see more SF input
in the near future.
Yours
Alan Bowman
dear all and sundried
the cantankerous old buggers of the 'freeformfreakout organisation not the
most original idea that now then was it? division' are somewhat embarassed
to present:
A Portrait of Secret Fluxus.
A call for 'portraits' of Secret Fluxus in a form suitable for hosting on
the FFFO
georg!!
half time : france 1 - switzerland 1
croatia 1 - england 2
i have every concievable thing crossed (oh! and a fridge full of beer, which
will help regardless of final scores!)
saluti!
alan
YEEEAA!!
for England.
(sniff) for Switzerland - I really was hoping at !/2 time Georg
oh well..
bests
alan
I blame Allen!
Deer Owl,
You are cordially invited to see Allan Revich's portrait of Secret Fluxus on
the Freeformfreakout Organisation's 'Portrait of Secret Fluxus' page.
Musical accompanymente will be provided by that lovable trio, the 'FFFO Nuts
and Bolts Rooftop Coffee House Hurdy Gurdy Quartet' whose piece
Egads!
One forgot to mention SecretFluxusTrevallyn's rather splendid entry too,
ahem.
blushes really rather violently...
..shuffles out of room, trips over modem cable and says naughty wordsbut
hat's another e-mail
Stan etc etc
problem with that! I think
that
sharing a drink, or a spliff, or a cell with Alan Bowman would be just
dandy. Heck, we already share most of a name.
Allan,
I'll swap you for the H that the Italian's (who are out of the European
Championships :-D ) insist on ading to my name.
Halan!
- Original Message -
From: Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
See?
Saw!
Dear All,
The Freeformfreakout Organisation are really quite chuffed to be able to
announce further additions to the Portrait of Secret Fluxus project to be
found at; http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/secretfluxus/secretflux1.html .
New entries are to be found by Paul Arnaud and Ken Friedman
Dear Tutti,
We have modified the site a little, now everyone who participates gets their
own page.
Vi ringraziamo very much,
Halan Uomo-dell'arco
ps new entries from Don Boyd (oh and Bowman too :-( )
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/secretfluxus/secretflux1.html
in your
name - isn't the Q in the public domain? And therefore up for grabs?
Halan,
I agree to your terms for the H and the L.
Can we talk about terms for a Q?
Alllan
- Original Message -
From: Alan Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5
Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrought
Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: Dorky Bushell's a Liar and a Pediatric Sludge
Ah
Of course
sorry
Was that it?
You wrote -
Ah
Of course
sorry
I wrote - Was that it?
You wrote
I am now writing ...
What do you mean?
I am now writing
I was expecting something much cheekier.
(Is it Allen Bukoff who puts all those little chevron things in our
e-mails? )
(Is anybody makin a list of the
I would like to take this opportunity to thank (with apologies for
lateness) Bertrand Clavez for making me sound much, much more interesting
than I really am! I recommend that you simply believe everything he said
about me!
If you go here you'll see me standing in a place wher not 3 minutes
Sol!
Band members of pugwash would obviously include:
The Cap'n
and the obligatory Master Bates and Seaman Staines!
yours
Mary Mungoandmidge (rmember them?)
Roger,
Sorry to hear about the problems with your plums!
How long before you be able to ride a bicycle again?
Alan
of infinite sustain of a noteA sack of pebbles, each
one heavy enough to hold down a keyOne pebble is added to the keyboard each
day (or at other given intervals)until all notes are played
alan bowman 09/03
___
(these are others which i don't
Hi
I think Gracie Mansion could be work looking at (the poersion not the house
that is!)too. Gracie Mansion deals in al hansen if i'm not mistaken.
- Original Message -
From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST:
oh go on then!
alan bowman
via lorenzago 15/7
30174 mestre venezia VE
Italy
see what i can do on the beermats too!
alan
- Original Message -
From: Wojtek Dlugosz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Address book new
David!
the sonics!! we played a 'psycho/louie
louie/wild thing/etc' medlay just last evening followed by clash city rockers
and the stones' 'the last time'.
first time in the rehearsal rooms for 2 years or so
- by the gods have I slowed down?!
what about the legendary stardust cowboy?
Beer Hall,
The contributions continue to amble in to the FFFO
Portrait of Secret Fluxus project. Today the FFFO offices were snowed
under with pieces from Allen Bukoff and Crispin Webb, and having runout of
secretaries and miscellaneous assistants Bowman actually had to deal with ptting
Hamilton Academicals! Just try and chant that from the terraces after
several pints of Heavy and a fried Mars Bar!
PROTECTED]
John M. Bennett
LUNA BISONTE PRODS.
137 Lelenad Ave.
Columbus, OH 43214 USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.geocities.com/pipeline/4838/1bp.html
Alan Bowman
Via Lorenzago 15 (int 7)
30174
MestreVenezia ITALIA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don Boyd
P.O. Box 349
Fredericktown, OH
Sorry to be so dim but can someone explain this swiki thing?
I remeber the first fluxlist dabblings but never really got into it, I think
at the time I was snowed under building the enormous Emily Harvey Gallery
website - an amazing image archive which has never seen the light of day!
so who's
Dear All and Sundried,
New additions to the FFFO Portrait of Secret Fluxus have arrived from Coco
Gordon and can be found at:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/n.waugh/secretfluxus/secretflux1.html
Coco has also submitted other images which we have duly put up as a sort of
'extra event', well worth a
Dear Sirzandmadamz,
The Freeformfreakout Organisation 'Yes, even on a Sunday' Division are
exceedingly pleased to present more splendid additions to the 'Portrait of
Secret Fluxus' webpages. Todays contributions come from: Caterina Davinio,
Roger Stevens, Luc Fierens and Kathy Forer.
Go to
re: the previous mail
i can get it to work (to download the mp3 to HD) using netscape but not IE
also You.html says it's load but i can't see anything! are they using some
weird script of transfering my files around? i've seen a link ti one of my
pages from the supereva site which has a
Would that be eighty shilling?
No if my memory serves me right heavy was made by drybroughs, 80/- by a
range of breweries (i think it may have referred to the price of a keg - but
i'm not sure). scottish and newcastle made 80/- amongst others. there's
also a 70/-
i'm a bit ot of touch on
I'd like to be in too
I'm going away tomorrow but should be back in time to get a cover out for
the 31st July
a
dear all,
i'm off on me holidays for two weeks. any new entries to the portrait of
secret fluxus will be added when i come back.
keep em comin'
cheers
alan
-
From: Alan Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: FLUXLIST: portrait of secret fluxus
dear all,
i'm off on me holidays for two weeks. any new entries to the portrait of
secret fluxus will be added when i come back.
keep em comin
does anyone have the email address for Luc Fierens? i have rather foolishly
deleted a mail from him and I want to reply to it. du!
Reed, if you hear from him, can you say thanks and I'll be in touch soon!
now i raelly am going on me holidays!
al
Dear All
Thanks for you responses and 'portraits' of Secret Fluxus, the
Freeformfreakout Organisation has just returned from its annual summer
jollies, and is therefore in a state of total chaos - we've just added David
Baptiste-Chirot, Gruppo Ginestetico (who appear to be secret fluxus!) and an
i've just returned from a couple of weeks away, to more than 400 unread
emails! i feel a bit sick...
i enjoyed the secret fluxus discussions, thank you all who took part...
i can't, however, remember if i am supposed to be doing anything for any of
these projects - address book etc, i can't
of Disciplinary Commission:
Alan Bowman, attorney and black belt
When not
Our own Alan Bowman is headlining this year's conference!
funny, very funny! thanks dad!
xxx
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