RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-04 Thread Joerg Pietschmann
Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong! Look at iText http://www.lowagie.com/iText/ to see how simple their examples are. They build a complex table with just a few lines of java codes. Try doing the same with the XML/XSLT/XSL:FO approach and I guarantee you that the total outcome will be much

Re: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-04 Thread Roland
At 11:58 AM 2/1/02 -0800, you wrote: I've attached an XSLT stylesheet that we use to create a PDF version of a clinical trial participant's lab report. It uses some fairly Can you please send us an example of the generated pdf file?

Re: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-04 Thread Matt Savino
Well since you said please and it is a sunny day (at least in LA)... Roland wrote: At 11:58 AM 2/1/02 -0800, you wrote: I've attached an XSLT stylesheet that we use to create a PDF version of a clinical trial participant's lab report. It uses some fairly Can you please send us an example

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread Jim Urban
Our application is a servlet based web application. We have adopted the MVC approach. We found Cacoon over kill, so we implmented our own frame work. Our frame work requires all business components produce XML. We then use XSL:HTML to format HTML output for the browser. It was only a natural

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread Roland
At 10:32 AM 2/1/02 -0600, you wrote: step to use XSL:FO to generate PDF since we already had XML being generated. One of the real blessings of this approach is our clients can customize the look and feel of the application by changing the XSL files without our ever opening a Java source file. We

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread Roland
I will nail down the weaknesses of the XML-PDF approach: 1. XSL:FO is a very complicated and messy language 2. XSLT is also kinda complicated to use, at least if you have to do complicated formatting... I'm replying to my own email adding that of course I would be glad if someone can show

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread Ralph LaChance
At 04:06 PM 2/1/02 -0200, you wrote: I will nail down the weaknesses of the XML-PDF approach: 1. XSL:FO is a very complicated and messy language 2. XSLT is also kinda complicated to use, at least if you have to do complicated formatting... Sometimes it seems folks assume that FO is synomous

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread fred redf
Hi Roland, We had the very same prob cause the xsl that translate from our XML content to FO went quite messy as we made all modifications needed to paper export (we're usually building 50-200 pages in our pdfs, with many pictures, tables cause it's made of courses contents). So we made some

Re: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread Patrick Andries
Ralph LaChance wrote: At 04:06 PM 2/1/02 -0200, you wrote: I will nail down the weaknesses of the XML-PDF approach: 1. XSL:FO is a very complicated and messy language 2. XSLT is also kinda complicated to use, at least if you have to do complicated formatting... Sometimes it seems

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread fred redf
Forgot to say that our fo formatting would be ready in 10 years when we'll have those *good* voice synthetizer that are supposed to *print* our fo code according to the XSL-FO specs. ;) Fred. --- Ralph LaChance [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : At 04:06 PM 2/1/02 -0200, you wrote: I will nail

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-02-01 Thread Roland
At 12:59 PM 2/1/02 -0600, you wrote: 2. XSLT is also kinda complicated to use, at least if you have to do complicated formatting... So is any other kind of programming language. The more complex the task, the more lines of coded need to achieve the desired results. Wrong! Look at iText

RE: Why do you use FOP instead of ...

2002-01-31 Thread Arved Sandstrom
Well, it wouldn't be off-topic if you pursued this on the fop-user mailing list. :-) Why do people use XSL-FO? Because they need high-quality printing and the formatting vocabulary described in the XSL 1.0 Recommendation suits those needs, AND the data to be formatted is already represented in