Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Bowditch

On 24/04/2012 19:16, Luis Bernardo wrote:

Hi Luis,
Just by itself the embed-url attribute does not imply that the font 
will be embedded. I know that the attribute name is confusing, and the 
documentation may not be up to date, but I believe that is the case. 
Fonts are subset embedded by default unless the referenced-fonts 
element is present, in which case they are referenced.


That is correct. The error reported by Adobe Reader suggests that the 
Simsun font is not registered with Adobe Reader. I believe it is not 
sufficient for the font to just be installed in the Operating System. I 
think the fonts also need to be registered with Adobe. Which makes the 
use case of referencing fonts instead of embedding somewhat worthless.


Thanks,

Chris


On 4/24/12 4:15 PM, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your reply.

In your example, you are embedding the font:

font embed-url=simsun.ttf  the embed-url attribute will get the 
font embedded.


I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

Thanks for your help,

Best regards,
JP

On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem. 
Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and 
resulting output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.


As Chris points out, you may wish to avoidauto-detect/. Also, you 
notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a 
fonts subdirectory where I did the test.




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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Jean-Philippe Courson
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your reply.

The configuration-referenced.xml starts like this:

fop version=1.0
  base./base
  source-resolution72/source-resolution
  target-resolution72/target-resolution
  default-page-settings height=11in width=8.26in/
  fonts
referenced-fonts
  match font-family=.*/
/referenced-fonts
  /fonts

I also tried not using auto-detect/:

1) Using a CID-keyed font metrics file:

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ java -cp 
../build/fop.jar:../lib/avalon-framework-4.2.0.jar:../lib/batik-all-1.7.jar:../lib/commons-io-1.3.1.jar:../lib/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar:../lib/serializer-2.7.0.jar:../lib/xalan-2.7.0.jar:../lib/xercesImpl-2.7.1.jar:../lib/xml-apis-1.3.04.jar:../lib/xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar:../lib/xmlgraphics-commons-1.4.jar
 org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader fonts/SimSun.ttf simsun-cid.xml
TTF Reader for Apache FOP 1.0
Parsing font...
Reading fonts/SimSun.ttf...
Font Family: [宋体, SimSun]
Creating xml font file...
Creating CID encoded metrics...
Writing xml font file simsun-cid.xml...
This font contains no embedding license restrictions.

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c 
configuration-referenced-no-autodetect-cid.xml 
output-referenced-no-autodetect-cid.pdf

The produced PDF can not be opened by Acrobat Reader which gives the following 
error message: Cannot find or create the font 'SimSun'. Some characters may 
not display or print correctly. This SimSun font is correctly installed on my 
machine.

2) Using a WinAnsi-encoded font metrics file:

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ java -cp 
../build/fop.jar:../lib/avalon-framework-4.2.0.jar:../lib/batik-all-1.7.jar:../lib/commons-io-1.3.1.jar:../lib/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar:../lib/serializer-2.7.0.jar:../lib/xalan-2.7.0.jar:../lib/xercesImpl-2.7.1.jar:../lib/xml-apis-1.3.04.jar:../lib/xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar:../lib/xmlgraphics-commons-1.4.jar
 org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader -enc ansi fonts/SimSun.ttf simsun-ansi.xml
TTF Reader for Apache FOP 1.0
Parsing font...
Reading fonts/SimSun.ttf...
Font Family: [宋体, SimSun]
Creating xml font file...
Creating WinAnsi encoded metrics...
Writing xml font file simsun-ansi.xml...
This font contains no embedding license restrictions.

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c 
configuration-referenced-no-autodetect-ansi.xml 
output-referenced-no-autodetect-ansi.pdf
Apr 24, 2012 3:30:52 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 仅 (0x4ec5) not available in font SimSun.
Apr 24, 2012 3:30:52 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 供 (0x4f9b) not available in font SimSun.
Apr 24, 2012 3:30:52 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 参 (0x53c2) not available in font SimSun.
Apr 24, 2012 3:30:52 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 考 (0x8003) not available in font SimSun.

The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol.

I attached to this email all the files used in the example as well as the 
produced PDFs.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Best regards,
JP



configuration-referenced-no-autodetect-ansi.xml
Description: XML document


configuration-referenced-no-autodetect-cid.xml
Description: XML document


output-referenced-no-autodetect-ansi.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


output-referenced-no-autodetect-cid.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


test-fo.xml
Description: XML document


On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:19, Chris Bowditch wrote:

 On 23/04/2012 14:35, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Hi Jean,
 
 Thank you for your replies.
 
 Please find attached a sample FO file highlighting the issue and 2 
 configuration files: one embedding the font, and another one referencing it.
 
 I can't see the referenced-fonts element in either configuration file. So 
 it still looks to me like you aren't configuring the font correctly. I also 
 recommend that you don't use auto-detect/ in this scenario.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris
 
 I attached as well a small JAVA program I use to verify that the font is 
 correctly installed.
 
 For testing purpose, you can download the SimSun font from 
 http://jumal.is.free.fr/SimSun.ttf.
 
 1) I verify that the font is correctly installed:
 
 ~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ java AvailableFonts | grep SimSun
 SimSun
 java.awt.Font[family=SimSun,name=SimSun,style=plain,size=1]
 
 2) I generate a PDF embedding the font:
 
 ~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c 
 configuration-embedded.xml output-embedded.pdf
 Apr 23, 2012 1:49:38 PM org.apache.fop.apps.FopFactoryConfigurator configure
 INFO: Default page-height set to: 11in
 Apr 23, 2012 1:49:38 PM org.apache.fop.apps.FopFactoryConfigurator configure
 INFO: Default page-width set to: 8.26in
 
 The PDF produced is OK: Hello 仅供参考
 
 3) I generate a PDF, using the same FO file, referencing the font:
 
 ~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c 
 configuration-referenced.xml output-referenced.pdf
 Apr 23, 2012 1:49:52 PM 

Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Jean-Philippe Courson
Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your reply.

In your example, you are embedding the font:

 font embed-url=simsun.ttf the embed-url attribute will get the font 
embedded.

I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

Thanks for your help,

Best regards,
JP

On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

 I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem. Attached 
 is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting output. I'm 
 using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.
 
 As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you notice 
 that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts subdirectory 
 where I did the test.
 


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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
why do you *not* want to embed? note that only the actually used glyphs
will be embedded in a subset font, so size should not be an issue

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 Thanks for your reply.

 In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf the embed-url attribute will get the font
 embedded.

 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

 Thanks for your help,

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.
 
  As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
 subdirectory where I did the test.
 


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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Jean-Philippe Courson
Hi Glenn,

I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution 
licensing costs.

The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts installed on 
their machine. 

Thanks for your help

Best regards,
JP

On 24 Apr 2012, at 16:28, Glenn Adams wrote:

 why do you *not* want to embed? note that only the actually used glyphs will 
 be embedded in a subset font, so size should not be an issue
 
 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
 jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:
 Hi Glenn,
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 
 In your example, you are embedding the font:
 
  font embed-url=simsun.ttf the embed-url attribute will get the font 
 embedded.
 
 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.
 
 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.
 
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Best regards,
 JP
 
 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:
 
  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem. Attached 
  is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting output. I'm 
  using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.
 
  As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you notice 
  that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts 
  subdirectory where I did the test.
 
 
 
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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
I notice at [1] that editable embedding is allowed. Note that FOP does not
embed the entire font, but only those glyphs used in the document. I would
be surprised if you were subject to redistribution licensing costs given
this situation.

[1] http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1802

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution
 licensing costs.

 The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts installed
 on their machine.

 Thanks for your help

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 24 Apr 2012, at 16:28, Glenn Adams wrote:

 why do you *not* want to embed? note that only the actually used glyphs
 will be embedded in a subset font, so size should not be an issue

 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
 jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 Thanks for your reply.

 In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf the embed-url attribute will get the font
 embedded.

 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

 Thanks for your help,

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.
 
  As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
 subdirectory where I did the test.
 


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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread mehdi houshmand
Hi,

Unless you know this specific font is embeddable (which I don't), that's
not ubiquitously true. There is a flag in the font program which indicates
whether it is embeddable or not [1]. If you open it an font viewer, it
should tell you the restrictions set.

[1] http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/os2.htm#fst

Mehdi

On 24 April 2012 16:57, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 I notice at [1] that editable embedding is allowed. Note that FOP does not
 embed the entire font, but only those glyphs used in the document. I would
 be surprised if you were subject to redistribution licensing costs given
 this situation.

 [1] http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FM 
 ID=1802http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1802


 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
 jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution
 licensing costs.

 The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts
 installed on their machine.

 Thanks for your help

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 24 Apr 2012, at 16:28, Glenn Adams wrote:

 why do you *not* want to embed? note that only the actually used glyphs
 will be embedded in a subset font, so size should not be an issue

 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
 jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 Thanks for your reply.

 In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf the embed-url attribute will get the font
 embedded.

 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

 Thanks for your help,

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.
 
  As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
 subdirectory where I did the test.
 


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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
btw, have you tried using the directory/ element without the
auto-detect/ element? e.g.

fonts
  directory./fonts-to-reference-without-embedding/directory
/fonts

this allows you to restrict the set of fonts to be accessed for reference
only (non-embedded) use

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 I notice at [1] that editable embedding is allowed. Note that FOP does not
 embed the entire font, but only those glyphs used in the document. I would
 be surprised if you were subject to redistribution licensing costs given
 this situation.

 [1] http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1802


 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
 jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution
 licensing costs.

 The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts
 installed on their machine.

 Thanks for your help




Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Jean-Philippe Courson
Just tried, same result.?xml version="1.0"?fop version="1.0" use-cachefalse/use-cache base./base fonts  referenced-fonts   match font-family=".*"/  /referenced-fonts /fonts renderers  renderer mime="application/pdf"   filterListvalueflate/value   /filterList   fontsdirectory./fonts/directory   /fonts  /renderer /renderers/fop~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ls fonts/SimSun.ttf~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c configuration-referenced-with-directory-element.xml output-referenced-with-directory-element.pdfApr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEventWARNING: Glyph "仅" (0x4ec5) not available in font "SimSun".Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEventWARNING: Glyph "供" (0x4f9b) not available in font "SimSun".Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEventWARNING: Glyph "参" (0x53c2) not available in font "SimSun".Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEventWARNING: Glyph "考" (0x8003) not available in font "SimSun".Regards,JP

configuration-referenced-with-directory-element.xml
Description: XML document


output-referenced-with-directory-element.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


test-fo.xml
Description: XML document
On 24 Apr 2012, at 17:09, Glenn Adams wrote:btw, have you tried using the directory/ element without the auto-detect/ element? e.g.fonts

 directory./fonts-to-reference-without-embedding/directory/fontsthis allows you to restrict the set of fonts to be accessed for reference only (non-embedded) use

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

I notice at [1] that editable embedding is allowed. Note that FOP does not embed the entire font, but only those glyphs used in the document. I would be surprised if you were subject to redistribution licensing costs given this situation.


[1]http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1802


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:


Hi Glenn,I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution licensing costs.The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts installed on their machine.


Thanks for your help


Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu

On 04/24/2012 11:46 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

Hi Glenn,

I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution
licensing costs.

The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts
installed on their machine.


Is that particular font a hard requirement, or could you use a free font 
such as http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/CJKUnifonts/Download ?



Thanks for your help

Best regards,
JP

On 24 Apr 2012, at 16:28, Glenn Adams wrote:


why do you *not* want to embed? note that only the actually used
glyphs will be embedded in a subset font, so size should not be an issue

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson
jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com
mailto:jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your reply.

In your example, you are embedding the font:

font embed-url=simsun.ttf the embed-url attribute will get the
font embedded.

I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the
font.

Thanks for your help,

Best regards,
JP

On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

 I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no
problem. Attached is the configuration file and input file I used
and resulting output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

 As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also,
you notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a
fonts subdirectory where I did the test.




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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
two more suggestions:

(1) remove the first fonts element (containing the referenced fonts
element)
(2) use a current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build [1]

[1] http://ci.apache.org/projects/xmlgraphics/fop/snapshots/

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Just tried, same result.

 ?xml version=1.0?
 fop version=1.0
   use-cachefalse/use-cache
   base./base

   fonts
 referenced-fonts
   match font-family=.*/
 /referenced-fonts
   /fonts
   renderers
 renderer mime=application/pdf
   filterList
 valueflate/value
   /filterList
   fonts
 directory./fonts/directory
   /fonts
 /renderer
   /renderers
 /fop

 ~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ls fonts/
 SimSun.ttf

 ~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c
 configuration-referenced-with-directory-element.xml
 output-referenced-with-directory-element.pdf
 Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener
 processEvent

 WARNING: Glyph 仅 (0x4ec5) not available in font SimSun.
 Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener
 processEvent

 WARNING: Glyph 供 (0x4f9b) not available in font SimSun.
 Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener
 processEvent

 WARNING: Glyph 参 (0x53c2) not available in font SimSun.
 Apr 24, 2012 5:27:33 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener
 processEvent

 WARNING: Glyph 考 (0x8003) not available in font SimSun.

 Regards,
 JP





 On 24 Apr 2012, at 17:09, Glenn Adams wrote:

 btw, have you tried using the directory/ element without the
 auto-detect/ element? e.g.

 fonts
   directory./fonts-to-reference-without-embedding/directory
 /fonts

 this allows you to restrict the set of fonts to be accessed for reference
 only (non-embedded) use

 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 I notice at [1] that editable embedding is allowed. Note that FOP does
 not embed the entire font, but only those glyphs used in the document. I
 would be surprised if you were subject to redistribution licensing costs
 given this situation.

 [1] http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1802


 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
 jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 I don't want to embed the fonts to avoid significant font redistribution
 licensing costs.

 The produced PDFs will be distributed to people having the fonts
 installed on their machine.

 Thanks for your help







Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Luis Bernardo


Just by itself the embed-url attribute does not imply that the font will 
be embedded. I know that the attribute name is confusing, and the 
documentation may not be up to date, but I believe that is the case. 
Fonts are subset embedded by default unless the referenced-fonts element 
is present, in which case they are referenced.


On 4/24/12 4:15 PM, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your reply.

In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf  the embed-url attribute will get the font 
embedded.

I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

Thanks for your help,

Best regards,
JP

On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:


I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem. Attached is 
the configuration file and input file I used and resulting output. I'm using 
the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

As Chris points out, you may wish to avoidauto-detect/. Also, you notice that I 
disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts subdirectory where I did the 
test.



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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
ok, on digging into this further i have found:

(1) luis is correct that embedding is performed by default without the
referenced-fonts element;

(2) in particular, when i add referenced-fontsmatch
font-family=SimSun//referenced-fonts i see the same behavior: glyphs
not found; when i remove, it works fine (and embeds subset);

(3) looking at TTFFontLoader i find the following:

boolean isCid = this.embedded;
if (this.encodingMode == EncodingMode.SINGLE_BYTE) {
isCid = false;
}

if (isCid) {
multiFont = new MultiByteFont();
returnFont = multiFont;
multiFont.setTTCName(ttcFontName);
} else {
singleFont = new SingleByteFont();
returnFont = singleFont;
}

This code assumes that *all* non-embedded fonts are single byte fonts, so
takes the else clause, constructing a SingleByteFont.

Clearly this code is bogus and needs to use other means to determine if the
font is CID keyed or not. In this case, it is CID keyed, and works fine
when embedded is true.

I will open a bug on this.

Thanks Jean-Philippe for your persistence!

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Luis Bernardo lmpmberna...@gmail.comwrote:


 Just by itself the embed-url attribute does not imply that the font will
 be embedded. I know that the attribute name is confusing, and the
 documentation may not be up to date, but I believe that is the case. Fonts
 are subset embedded by default unless the referenced-fonts element is
 present, in which case they are referenced.


 On 4/24/12 4:15 PM, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 Thanks for your reply.

 In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf  the embed-url attribute will get the font
 embedded.

 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

 Thanks for your help,

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

 As Chris points out, you may wish to avoidauto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
btw, this code has been present since 2008-05-08 [1]

[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=654461

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 ok, on digging into this further i have found:

 (1) luis is correct that embedding is performed by default without the
 referenced-fonts element;

 (2) in particular, when i add referenced-fontsmatch
 font-family=SimSun//referenced-fonts i see the same behavior: glyphs
 not found; when i remove, it works fine (and embeds subset);

 (3) looking at TTFFontLoader i find the following:

 boolean isCid = this.embedded;
 if (this.encodingMode == EncodingMode.SINGLE_BYTE) {
 isCid = false;
 }

 if (isCid) {
 multiFont = new MultiByteFont();
 returnFont = multiFont;
 multiFont.setTTCName(ttcFontName);
 } else {
 singleFont = new SingleByteFont();
 returnFont = singleFont;
 }

 This code assumes that *all* non-embedded fonts are single byte fonts, so
 takes the else clause, constructing a SingleByteFont.

 Clearly this code is bogus and needs to use other means to determine if
 the font is CID keyed or not. In this case, it is CID keyed, and works fine
 when embedded is true.

 I will open a bug on this.

 Thanks Jean-Philippe for your persistence!


 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Luis Bernardo lmpmberna...@gmail.comwrote:


 Just by itself the embed-url attribute does not imply that the font will
 be embedded. I know that the attribute name is confusing, and the
 documentation may not be up to date, but I believe that is the case. Fonts
 are subset embedded by default unless the referenced-fonts element is
 present, in which case they are referenced.


 On 4/24/12 4:15 PM, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 Thanks for your reply.

 In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf  the embed-url attribute will get the
 font embedded.

 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

 Thanks for your help,

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

 As Chris points out, you may wish to avoidauto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-24 Thread Glenn Adams
bug filed at https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53142

jean-philippe, you may want to create a bugzilla account and add yourself
to the CC list for this bug

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 ok, on digging into this further i have found:

 (1) luis is correct that embedding is performed by default without the
 referenced-fonts element;

 (2) in particular, when i add referenced-fontsmatch
 font-family=SimSun//referenced-fonts i see the same behavior: glyphs
 not found; when i remove, it works fine (and embeds subset);

 (3) looking at TTFFontLoader i find the following:

 boolean isCid = this.embedded;
 if (this.encodingMode == EncodingMode.SINGLE_BYTE) {
 isCid = false;
 }

 if (isCid) {
 multiFont = new MultiByteFont();
 returnFont = multiFont;
 multiFont.setTTCName(ttcFontName);
 } else {
 singleFont = new SingleByteFont();
 returnFont = singleFont;
 }

 This code assumes that *all* non-embedded fonts are single byte fonts, so
 takes the else clause, constructing a SingleByteFont.

 Clearly this code is bogus and needs to use other means to determine if
 the font is CID keyed or not. In this case, it is CID keyed, and works fine
 when embedded is true.

 I will open a bug on this.

 Thanks Jean-Philippe for your persistence!


 On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Luis Bernardo lmpmberna...@gmail.comwrote:


 Just by itself the embed-url attribute does not imply that the font will
 be embedded. I know that the attribute name is confusing, and the
 documentation may not be up to date, but I believe that is the case. Fonts
 are subset embedded by default unless the referenced-fonts element is
 present, in which case they are referenced.


 On 4/24/12 4:15 PM, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

 Hi Glenn,

 Thanks for your reply.

 In your example, you are embedding the font:

  font embed-url=simsun.ttf  the embed-url attribute will get the
 font embedded.

 I have no problem creating a chinese PDF when the font is embedded.

 The issue I am raising is when trying to reference (not embed) the font.

 Thanks for your help,

 Best regards,
 JP

 On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:26, Glenn Adams wrote:

  I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

 As Chris points out, you may wish to avoidauto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-23 Thread Chris Bowditch

On 20/04/2012 18:54, Glenn Adams wrote:

Hi Glenn,


it is best you create a bug at [1] to track this; you can upload 
attachments on the new bug; file it under the Fop product;


I'm not happy to encourage users on this list to open bugs before 
confirming there is a defect.


Everything I've read on this thread so far suggests this is a 
configuration issue. Metrics files are deprecated in FOP v1.0+


How to reference instead of embed is to add the embed-url attribute on 
the fonts elements and use the referenced-fonts element as described 
in [1]


Thanks,

Chris

[1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/trunk/fonts.html#embedding



[1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com 
mailto:jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:


Hi,

I am trying to produce chinese PDFs not embedding fonts. I am
using the SimSun font.

When embedding the font, everything is fine. However, when trying
to reference the font, FOP produced an invalid PDF, despite the
Simsun font being installed on the machines were the PDF is
produced and opened.

I tried both auto-configuring the fonts and the old style, metric
based manual font configuration:

1) Auto-configured fonts:

fonts
referenced-fonts
match font-family=.*/
/referenced-fonts
/fonts
renderers
renderer mime=application/pdf
...
auto-detect/

The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol.

2) Manually configured fonts:

renderers
renderer mime=application/pdf
...
fonts
font
metrics-url=file:///Users/jumal/Downloads/fop-1.0/SimSun.xml
kerning=yes
font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=normal/
font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=bold/
font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=normal/
font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=bold/
/font

   a) Metric file generated with the default options:

java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader
SimSun.ttf SimSun.xml

The produced PDF can not be opened by Acrobat Reader which
gives the following error message: Cannot find or create the font
'SimSun'. Some characters may not display or print correctly.

   b) Metric file generated with the -enc ansi options:

java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader -enc ansi
SimSun.ttf SimSun.xml

The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol.

Having a look at
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/trunk/fonts.html#truetype-metrics,
and in particular:

TTFReader [options]:
   ...
   • -enc ansi Creates a WinAnsi-encoded font metrics file.
Without this option, a CID-keyed font metrics file is created. The
table below summarises the differences between these two encoding
options as currently used within FOP. Please note that this
information only applies to TrueType fonts and TrueType collections:
Issue   WinAnsi  
 
CID-keyed

Usable Character Set  Limited to WinAnsi character set, which
is roughly equivalent to iso-8889-1.  Limited only by the
characters in the font itself.
Embedding the FontOptional.  
 
  Mandatory. Not embedding the font

produces invalid PDF documents.

it looks like you need to use the -enc ansi to be able to
reference a font. Does this mean that have to use WinAnsi
(windows-1252) encoding for the input XML files?

If it is the case, that would mean to produce for example chinese
PDFs, you would have to embed the font, as windows-1252 cannot be
used to encode chinese symbols.

Am I missing something or the only way to produce chinese PDF is
to embed the font with the font licensing costs it implies?

Cheers,
JP

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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-23 Thread Chris Bowditch

On 23/04/2012 14:35, Jean-Philippe Courson wrote:

Hi all,


Hi Jean,


Thank you for your replies.

Please find attached a sample FO file highlighting the issue and 2 
configuration files: one embedding the font, and another one referencing it.


I can't see the referenced-fonts element in either configuration file. 
So it still looks to me like you aren't configuring the font correctly. 
I also recommend that you don't use auto-detect/ in this scenario.


Thanks,

Chris


I attached as well a small JAVA program I use to verify that the font is 
correctly installed.

For testing purpose, you can download the SimSun font from 
http://jumal.is.free.fr/SimSun.ttf.

1) I verify that the font is correctly installed:

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ java AvailableFonts | grep SimSun
SimSun
java.awt.Font[family=SimSun,name=SimSun,style=plain,size=1]

2) I generate a PDF embedding the font:

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c configuration-embedded.xml 
output-embedded.pdf
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:38 PM org.apache.fop.apps.FopFactoryConfigurator configure
INFO: Default page-height set to: 11in
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:38 PM org.apache.fop.apps.FopFactoryConfigurator configure
INFO: Default page-width set to: 8.26in

The PDF produced is OK: Hello 仅供参考

3) I generate a PDF, using the same FO file, referencing the font:

~/Downloads/fop-1.0/test$ ../fop -fo test-fo.xml -c 
configuration-referenced.xml output-referenced.pdf
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:52 PM org.apache.fop.apps.FopFactoryConfigurator configure
INFO: Default page-height set to: 11in
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:52 PM org.apache.fop.apps.FopFactoryConfigurator configure
INFO: Default page-width set to: 8.26in
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:55 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 仅 (0x4ec5) not available in font SimSun.
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:55 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 供 (0x4f9b) not available in font SimSun.
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:55 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 参 (0x53c2) not available in font SimSun.
Apr 23, 2012 1:49:55 PM org.apache.fop.events.LoggingEventListener processEvent
WARNING: Glyph 考 (0x8003) not available in font SimSun.

FOP issues warnings telling that the glyphs are not available for the font (I 
just saw this warning making this example),  and the PDF produced is having all 
glyphs replaced with '#': Hello 

Am I doing something wrong with the configuration or is this issue due a FOP 
limitation or bug?

Thank you all in advance for your help

Best regards,
JP





















On 23 Apr 2012, at 10:08, Chris Bowditch wrote:


On 20/04/2012 18:54, Glenn Adams wrote:

Hi Glenn,

it is best you create a bug at [1] to track this; you can upload attachments on the new 
bug; file it under the Fop product;

I'm not happy to encourage users on this list to open bugs before confirming 
there is a defect.

Everything I've read on this thread so far suggests this is a configuration 
issue. Metrics files are deprecated in FOP v1.0+

How to reference instead of embed is to add the embed-url attribute on the fonts 
elements and use thereferenced-fonts  element as described in [1]

Thanks,

Chris

[1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/trunk/fonts.html#embedding


[1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jean-Philippe 
Coursonjean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.commailto:jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com
  wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to produce chinese PDFs not embedding fonts. I am
using the SimSun font.

When embedding the font, everything is fine. However, when trying
to reference the font, FOP produced an invalid PDF, despite the
Simsun font being installed on the machines were the PDF is
produced and opened.

I tried both auto-configuring the fonts and the old style, metric
based manual font configuration:

1) Auto-configured fonts:

fonts
referenced-fonts
match font-family=.*/
/referenced-fonts
/fonts
renderers
renderer mime=application/pdf
...
auto-detect/

The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol.

2) Manually configured fonts:

renderers
renderer mime=application/pdf
...
fonts
font
metrics-url=file:///Users/jumal/Downloads/fop-1.0/SimSun.xml
kerning=yes
font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=normal/
font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=bold/
font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=normal/
font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=bold/
/font

   a) Metric file generated with the default options:

java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader
SimSun.ttf SimSun.xml

The produced PDF can not be opened by Acrobat Reader which
gives the following error message: Cannot find or create the font
'SimSun'. Some characters may not display or print correctly.

   b) Metric file generated with the -enc ansi 

Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-23 Thread Glenn Adams
I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem. Attached
is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting output. I'm
using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you notice
that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
subdirectory where I did the test.


Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-23 Thread Glenn Adams
with attachments

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:

 I just tried this with the font you referenced and had no problem.
 Attached is the configuration file and input file I used and resulting
 output. I'm using the current FOP 1.1dev (trunk) build.

 As Chris points out, you may wish to avoid auto-detect/. Also, you
 notice that I disabled the font cache and placed the font in a fonts
 subdirectory where I did the test.




fop.xconf
Description: Binary data
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
fo:root xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format;
  fo:layout-master-set
fo:simple-page-master master-name=my-page
  fo:region-body margin=1in/
/fo:simple-page-master
  /fo:layout-master-set
  fo:page-sequence master-reference=my-page
fo:flow flow-name=xsl-region-body
  fo:block font-family=SimSun font-size=10ptHello 仅供参考/fo:block
/fo:flow
  /fo:page-sequence
/fo:root


test.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

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Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-20 Thread Jean-Philippe Courson
Hi,

I am trying to produce chinese PDFs not embedding fonts. I am using the SimSun 
font. 

When embedding the font, everything is fine. However, when trying to reference 
the font, FOP produced an invalid PDF, despite the Simsun font being installed 
on the machines were the PDF is produced and opened.

I tried both auto-configuring the fonts and the old style, metric based manual 
font configuration:

1) Auto-configured fonts:

fonts
   referenced-fonts
 match font-family=.*/
   /referenced-fonts
 /fonts  
renderers
   renderer mime=application/pdf
 ...
 auto-detect/

The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol. 

2) Manually configured fonts:
 
renderers
   renderer mime=application/pdf
 ...
 fonts
   font metrics-url=file:///Users/jumal/Downloads/fop-1.0/SimSun.xml 
kerning=yes
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=normal/
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=bold/
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=normal/
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=bold/
   /font 

a) Metric file generated with the default options: 
 
 java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader SimSun.ttf SimSun.xml

 The produced PDF can not be opened by Acrobat Reader which gives the 
following error message: Cannot find or create the font 'SimSun'. Some 
characters may not display or print correctly.

b) Metric file generated with the -enc ansi options: 
 
 java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader -enc ansi SimSun.ttf 
SimSun.xml

 The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol. 
 
Having a look at 
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/trunk/fonts.html#truetype-metrics, and in 
particular:

TTFReader [options]:
...
• -enc ansi Creates a WinAnsi-encoded font metrics file. Without this 
option, a CID-keyed font metrics file is created. The table below summarises 
the differences between these two encoding options as currently used within 
FOP. Please note that this information only applies to TrueType fonts and 
TrueType collections:
Issue   WinAnsi 

CID-keyed
Usable Character Set  Limited to WinAnsi character set, which is roughly 
equivalent to iso-8889-1.  Limited only by the characters in the font itself.
Embedding the FontOptional. 
  
Mandatory. Not embedding the font produces invalid PDF documents.

it looks like you need to use the -enc ansi to be able to reference a font. 
Does this mean that have to use WinAnsi (windows-1252) encoding for the input 
XML files? 

If it is the case, that would mean to produce for example chinese PDFs, you 
would have to embed the font, as windows-1252 cannot be used to encode chinese 
symbols.

Am I missing something or the only way to produce chinese PDF is to embed the 
font with the font licensing costs it implies?

Cheers,
JP

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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-20 Thread Jean-Philippe Courson
Hi Robert,

Thanks for your answer.

Yes it is:

  renderers
renderer mime=application/pdf
  filterList
valueflate/value
  /filterList
  fonts
auto-detect/
  /fonts
/renderer

Best Regards,
JP

On 20 Apr 2012, at 15:15, Robert Meyer wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Can you just confirm that when using the referenced-fonts method, the 
 auto-detect / line is within a fonts tag pair in the renderer?
 
 If it is not, then that may be why it is refusing the find the font you are 
 referencing.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Robert Meyer
 
  From: jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com
  Subject: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts
  Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:55:59 +0100
  To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
  
  Hi,
  
  I am trying to produce chinese PDFs not embedding fonts. I am using the 
  SimSun font. 
  
  When embedding the font, everything is fine. However, when trying to 
  reference the font, FOP produced an invalid PDF, despite the Simsun font 
  being installed on the machines were the PDF is produced and opened.
  
  I tried both auto-configuring the fonts and the old style, metric based 
  manual font configuration:
  
  1) Auto-configured fonts:
  
  fonts
  referenced-fonts
  match font-family=.*/
  /referenced-fonts
  /fonts 
  renderers
  renderer mime=application/pdf
  ...
  auto-detect/
  
  The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol. 
  
  2) Manually configured fonts:
  
  renderers
  renderer mime=application/pdf
  ...
  fonts
  font metrics-url=file:///Users/jumal/Downloads/fop-1.0/SimSun.xml 
  kerning=yes
  font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=normal/
  font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=bold/
  font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=normal/
  font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=bold/
  /font 
  
  a) Metric file generated with the default options: 
  
  java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader SimSun.ttf SimSun.xml
  
  The produced PDF can not be opened by Acrobat Reader which gives the 
  following error message: Cannot find or create the font 'SimSun'. Some 
  characters may not display or print correctly.
  
  b) Metric file generated with the -enc ansi options: 
  
  java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader -enc ansi SimSun.ttf 
  SimSun.xml
  
  The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol. 
  
  Having a look at 
  http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/trunk/fonts.html#truetype-metrics, and in 
  particular:
  
  TTFReader [options]:
  ...
  • -enc ansi Creates a WinAnsi-encoded font metrics file. Without this 
  option, a CID-keyed font metrics file is created. The table below 
  summarises the differences between these two encoding options as currently 
  used within FOP. Please note that this information only applies to TrueType 
  fonts and TrueType collections:
  Issue WinAnsiCID-keyed
  Usable Character Set Limited to WinAnsi character set, which is roughly 
  equivalent to iso-8889-1.   Limited only by the characters in the font 
  itself.
  Embedding the Font Optional. Mandatory. Not embedding the font produces 
  invalid PDF documents.
  
  it looks like you need to use the -enc ansi to be able to reference a font. 
  Does this mean that have to use WinAnsi (windows-1252) encoding for the 
  input XML files? 
  
  If it is the case, that would mean to produce for example chinese PDFs, you 
  would have to embed the font, as windows-1252 cannot be used to encode 
  chinese symbols.
  
  Am I missing something or the only way to produce chinese PDF is to embed 
  the font with the font licensing costs it implies?
  
  Cheers,
  JP
  
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Re: Chinese PDFs and non embedded fonts

2012-04-20 Thread Glenn Adams
please provide the following info:

(1) version of FOP you are using and platform on which you are running it
(2) a maximally minimal input FO file that demonstrates your problem
(3) the output PDF file produced by this input file (1)
(4) the FOP xconf file you used to create (3)
(5) all console output

a maximally minimal input file is one which is (1) complete, (2)
demonstrates the problem, and (3) for which nothing else can be removed
without affecting (1) or (2)

it is best you create a bug at [1] to track this; you can upload
attachments on the new bug; file it under the Fop product;

[1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jean-Philippe Courson 
jean-philippe.cour...@cognitran.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to produce chinese PDFs not embedding fonts. I am using the
 SimSun font.

 When embedding the font, everything is fine. However, when trying to
 reference the font, FOP produced an invalid PDF, despite the Simsun font
 being installed on the machines were the PDF is produced and opened.

 I tried both auto-configuring the fonts and the old style, metric based
 manual font configuration:

 1) Auto-configured fonts:

 fonts
   referenced-fonts
 match font-family=.*/
   /referenced-fonts
  /fonts
 renderers
   renderer mime=application/pdf
 ...
 auto-detect/

 The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol.

 2) Manually configured fonts:

 renderers
   renderer mime=application/pdf
 ...
 fonts
   font metrics-url=file:///Users/jumal/Downloads/fop-1.0/SimSun.xml
 kerning=yes
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=normal/
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=normal weight=bold/
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=normal/
 font-triplet name=SimSun style=italic weight=bold/
   /font

a) Metric file generated with the default options:

 java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader SimSun.ttf
 SimSun.xml

 The produced PDF can not be opened by Acrobat Reader which gives
 the following error message: Cannot find or create the font 'SimSun'. Some
 characters may not display or print correctly.

b) Metric file generated with the -enc ansi options:

 java -cp ... org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader -enc ansi
 SimSun.ttf SimSun.xml

 The produced PDF shows # characters for every chinese symbol.

 Having a look at
 http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/trunk/fonts.html#truetype-metrics, and
 in particular:

 TTFReader [options]:
...
• -enc ansi Creates a WinAnsi-encoded font metrics file. Without
 this option, a CID-keyed font metrics file is created. The table below
 summarises the differences between these two encoding options as currently
 used within FOP. Please note that this information only applies to TrueType
 fonts and TrueType collections:
 Issue   WinAnsi

   CID-keyed
 Usable Character Set  Limited to WinAnsi character set, which is
 roughly equivalent to iso-8889-1.  Limited only by the characters in the
 font itself.
 Embedding the FontOptional.

 Mandatory. Not embedding the font produces invalid PDF documents.

 it looks like you need to use the -enc ansi to be able to reference a
 font. Does this mean that have to use WinAnsi (windows-1252) encoding for
 the input XML files?

 If it is the case, that would mean to produce for example chinese PDFs,
 you would have to embed the font, as windows-1252 cannot be used to encode
 chinese symbols.

 Am I missing something or the only way to produce chinese PDF is to embed
 the font with the font licensing costs it implies?

 Cheers,
 JP

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