[fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml

What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
or my work.

I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
public repositories instead.


Regards,
  Graeme

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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Luca Manganelli
For me, the acquisition of Monsanto by Bayer is worst :-(

Il mar 5 giu 2018 20:41 Graeme Geldenhuys 
ha scritto:

> News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.
>
> https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml
>
> What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
> owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
> I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
> Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
> or my work.
>
> I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
> because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
> that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
> public repositories instead.
>
>
> Regards,
>   Graeme
>
> --
> fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal
> http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/
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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread José Mejuto

El 05/06/2018 a las 20:24, Graeme Geldenhuys escribió:


I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub


Hello,

Try GitLab...

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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:

> What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
> owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.

Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)
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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Michalis Kamburelis
Graeme Geldenhuys  wrote:

> News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.
>
> https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml
>
> What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
> owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
> I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
> Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
> or my work.
>
> I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
> because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
> that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
> public repositories instead.
>

Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.

A big advantage is also that it's open-source, so instead of creating your
project on gitlab.com, you can host your own GitLab instance. Like Debian
is doing with salsa.debian.org . There are Docker images with ready GitLab
and dependencies, to make it easy.

Personally, I'm "cautiously not panicking" :) I'll continue to use a mix of
GitHub and GitLab (with most public stuff on GitHub). Microsoft today is
doing open-source, working with Linux... It's no longer the aggressive M$
from "Ballmer era" and earlier. Maybe things will be OK (and if not, moving
is easy :) ).

Regards,
Michalis

>

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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-06-05 20:22, José Mejuto wrote:
> Try GitLab...

And who is going to buy them when they are big enough. No thanks. I've
made up my mind. I'll be hosting my own Git repos from now onwards - I
already have the infrastructure in place (currently hosting web servers,
NNTP server, a mail server and such). After all, Git is a "distributed
version control system" and pointing existing local repos to a new
remote server is a single line command. My day-to-day work and impact of
how I work will be zero.

I'll simply switch from a "Centralised Workflow" (aka GitHub,
SourceForge) to a "Integration-Manager Workflow". I already do that a
lot of the time any ways.

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows#wfdiag_b


Regards,
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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-06-05 20:19, Marco van de Voort wrote:
>> owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
> Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)

Oh God, yes I forgot about those. Amazon is also spreading its tentacles
everywhere and with microphones (smart speakers) planted in every other
home. What is this world coming too? Everybody so eager to loose their
freedom and privacy. Seems Richard Stallman was right all along.

Regards,
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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis via fpc-other

Στις 5/6/2018 10:45 μμ, ο Michalis Kamburelis έγραψε:
Graeme Geldenhuys > wrote:


News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml





Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.



I assume that not many people trust MS  From 
https://m.investing.com/news/technology-news/gitlab-gains-developers-after-microsoft-buys-rival-github-1481198?ampMode=1


"It has been crazy in the last twenty-four hours. We are seeing 
thousands switching, tweeting about it," GitLab Chief Executive Officer 
Sytse Sijbrandij told Reuters on Tuesday.


Sijbrandij said the platform has imported 
https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1&from=1527598466832&to=1528203274215 
over a hundred thousand code projects and has seen a seven-fold rise in 
orders since the Microsoft-GitHub deal unfolded.


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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Luca Olivetti

El 05/06/18 a les 21:22, José Mejuto ha escrit:

El 05/06/2018 a las 20:24, Graeme Geldenhuys escribió:


I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub


Hello,

Try GitLab...


Or bitbucket

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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2018-06-05 20:45, Michalis Kamburelis wrote:
> Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.

Why. Git is a distributed version control system. I really don't need a
3rd party hosting provider when I can do it on my own public server.

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows#wfdiag_b

My Git workflow is already like that most of the times and for many of
my projects.



> Personally, I'm "cautiously not panicking" :)

Yeah, just like how M$ f**ked up Skype in more ways than one - and
dropped Linux support for good measure.

No thanks!


Regards,
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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread geneb

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:


On 2018-06-05 20:19, Marco van de Voort wrote:

owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.

Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)


Oh God, yes I forgot about those. Amazon is also spreading its tentacles
everywhere and with microphones (smart speakers) planted in every other
home. What is this world coming too? Everybody so eager to loose their
freedom and privacy. Seems Richard Stallman was right all along.

I look at it this way, Microsoft is putting effort into getting behind 
Open Source with their .Net stuff and other things.


Look at how Oracle continues to behave and consider yourself lucky that 
they didn't buy Github.


Frankly I think you're getting yourself worked up over nothing...

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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Ralf Quint

On 6/5/2018 12:19 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:

In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:


What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.

Well, there is always Amazon and Oracle :-)

Talking about "from fire into the pan"... ;-)

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Re: [fpc-other] M$ has bought GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Stéphane Aulery

Le 05/06/2018 à 21:45, Michalis Kamburelis a écrit :
Graeme Geldenhuys > wrote:


News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml

What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be
owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control
or my work.

I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub
because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now
that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own
public repositories instead.


Or you can move to GitLab, which offers similar features in many ways.

A big advantage is also that it's open-source, so instead of creating 
your project on gitlab.com , you can host your own 
GitLab instance. Like Debian is doing with salsa.debian.org 
 . There are Docker images with ready GitLab 
and dependencies, to make it easy.


The Gitlab docker image is suboptimal. There are inexplicable resource 
consumption peaks when we use ours at work, even when the machine is 
idle. It's inept to put an entire system in another one when you can 
already install a basic git service with a web server and tools of your 
choice for a limited effort.


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News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.shtml

What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be owned 
and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full control or my 
work.

I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub because of 
SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. Now that plan will NOT 
happen and I'll most likely start hosting my own public repositories instead.


Regards,
  Graeme

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For me, the acquisition of Monsanto by Bayer is worst :-(

Il mar 5 giu 2018 20:41 Graeme Geldenhuys  ha 
scritto:

> News just in  M$ has bought GitHub.
>
> https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-takes-over-github-521380.sht
> ml
>
> What a sad day it is. It seems that one day the whole Internet will be 
> owned and run my four companies: Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
> I guess I'll be doing what the Free Pascal project has done all along...
> Host my own repositories and bug tracker. Less sh*t and in full 
> control or my work.
>
> I've had plans to move many of my projects off SourceForge to GitHub 
> because of SourceForge's performance problems and frequent outages. 
> Now that plan will NOT happen and I'll most likely start hosting my 
> own public repositories instead.
>
>
> Regards,
>   Graeme
>
> --
> fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal 
> http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/
>
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