RE: question about Figure # s

2008-02-18 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Deirdre - Frankly, this sounds like an enormous pain, both to maintain and to extend, as you've discovered. It also helps this list give you the best advice and targeted suggestions when you tell us the platform (e.g. Windows, Mac) and version of Frame (FM 6, FM 7.2, FM 8,...) and whether this

RE: Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Samehere. You boss should say, I need to see your numbers (justification) regarding (whatever they say). Then you go to work justifying those areas. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008

RE: Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Ann Balaban
I used the $$ numbers for justification. Just upgrading to FM8 and Acrobat 3D is worth it. But he wants something else. We are going to discuss it next week but I wanted to anticipate his requests and already have it completed. I guess I should have mentioned this the first time. Included in my

RE: Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Glenn Voyles
I had a similar challenge late last year and wrote a business plan for a CMS. I believe I got the template from one of the vendors we decided against (they're all very helpful when it comes to helping you sell their software to upper management). Anyway, after the executive summary, I described

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Emily Berk
Why wouldn't you put the LOF and the LOT in the TOC? Do you include the Index in the TOC? -- Emily At 02:46 PM 2/18/2008, Deirdre Reagan wrote: Hi all: My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the order

RE: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Michael O'Neill
Yes LOF and LOT are both examples of front matter, but so is a ToC. IMHO, the only things (standard elements) that should come before the ToC are the Cover and the Legal page (if not at the end). Anything else will likely just be contrary to user expectations. With that said, there ARE

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Mike Wickham
The Chicago Manual of Style shows this as the proper order: Table of Contents List of Illustrations List of Tables Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Gold
Doesn't anyone use LOT, TOC, and barrel, any more? G My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the order TOC, LOF, LOT (or LOT, LOF, I don't really mind, just TOC first). He says that LOF and LOT

RE: Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread John Sgammato
Keep in mind the hit-by-a-bus justification: if you get hit by a bus (or just need to bring on a contractor or a new hire), it is safer for them to seek a replacement who knows the current versions than to expect someone to be backwards-compatible with software they no longer use. It is more

List of Effective Pages (LEP)

2008-02-18 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I can endorse that. LEP Tools have in some of my manuals made my life much easier. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Air Atlanta Icelandic On Feb 16, 2008 11:58 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:43:14 -0500, "Harold Winberg" > wrote: > > >I have been tasked to help make a List of

question about Figure # s

2008-02-18 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Deirdre - Frankly, this sounds like an enormous pain, both to maintain and to extend, as you've discovered. It also helps this list give you the best advice and targeted suggestions when you tell us the platform (e.g. Windows, Mac) and version of Frame (FM 6, FM 7.2, FM 8,...) and whether this

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Ann Balaban
Have any of you written a software purchase justification? I am trying to purchase the Adobe Technical Communications Suite and my boss says I'm missing a few things in my justification. If anyone has any examples I could use, I would appreciate seeing them. Ann Balaban The T-System

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Charles Beck
What things is your boss looking for? I would start by asking your boss. Otherwise, you're just taking a poke in the dark. Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Samehere. You boss should say, "I need to see your numbers (justification) regarding (whatever they say)." Then you go to work justifying those areas. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread John Hedtke
I always rely on savings/efficiency when touting a software purchase: What will this save the company? How will it improve efficiency, throughput, or final quality to buy this thing? In the case of the Adobe Tech Comm Suite, it's got a few advantages right off the top: even at list price,

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Glenn Voyles
I had a similar challenge late last year and wrote a business plan for a CMS. I believe I got the template from one of the vendors we decided against (they're all very helpful when it comes to helping you sell their software to upper management). Anyway, after the executive summary, I described

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread Ann Balaban
I used the $$ numbers for justification. Just upgrading to FM8 and Acrobat 3D is worth it. But he wants something else. We are going to discuss it next week but I wanted to anticipate his requests and already have it completed. I guess I should have mentioned this the first time. Included in my

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi all: My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the order TOC, LOF, LOT (or LOT, LOF, I don't really mind, just TOC first). He says that LOF and LOT are front matter and are not called out in the TOC, so

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Emily Berk
Why wouldn't you put the LOF and the LOT in the TOC? Do you include the Index in the TOC? -- Emily At 02:46 PM 2/18/2008, Deirdre Reagan wrote: >Hi all: > >My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and >LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Michael O'Neill
Yes LOF and LOT are both examples of front matter, but so is a ToC. IMHO, the only things (standard elements) that should come before the ToC are the Cover and the Legal page (if not at the end). Anything else will likely just be contrary to user expectations. With that said, there ARE

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Art Campbell
The CMoS supports your ordering; that's the standard way of putting a book together. Art On Feb 18, 2008 5:46 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Hi all: > > My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and > LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the > order

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Mike Wickham
The Chicago Manual of Style shows this as the proper order: Table of Contents List of Illustrations List of Tables Mike Wickham

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Gold
Doesn't anyone use LOT, TOC, and barrel, any more? > > My co-worker and I are debating about the order of the TOC, LOF and > > LOT. I say they are all tables of content, and should come in the > > order TOC, LOF, LOT (or LOT, LOF, I don't really mind, just TOC > > first). > > > > He says that

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-18 Thread John Sgammato
Keep in mind the "hit-by-a-bus" justification: if you get hit by a bus (or just need to bring on a contractor or a new hire), it is safer for them to seek a replacement who knows the current versions than to expect someone to be backwards-compatible with software they no longer use. It is more