Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Thanks everyone who chimed in on this! I'll take these references back to the table and see if we can settle this. ps I'm delighted I'm right. Is that wrong? :) On 2/18/08, Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Chicago Manual of Style shows this as the proper order: Table of Contents

Chautauqua

2008-02-19 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Framers, who has attended the FrameMaker 2008 Chautauqua last week? Any impressions, goodies, important news I (and the other absentees) have missed? Thanks in advance. -- Yves Barbion Scripto Belgium ___ You are currently subscribed to

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Art Campbell
Assuming you mean that they're still going to be discrete lists within the TOC, no, it shouldn't be a problem. In the TOC, just import the LOF and LOT files as text insets. Art On Feb 19, 2008 11:52 AM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, now I have a problem. We've decided to keep

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Sorry, don't mean to be thick -- I'm still learning Framemaker! How do I do this? I'm on Windows XP running FM 8.0. I have the book open, with the TOC highlighted. All other files are closed. Thanks so much. Deirdre On 2/19/08, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you mean that

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote: Assuming you mean that they're still going to be discrete lists within the TOC, no, it shouldn't be a problem. In the TOC, just import the LOF and LOT files as text insets. Art On Feb 19, 2008 11:52 AM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, now I have a

Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
Carrie Baker wrote: Frame 7.2 I am documenting an application with all sorts of reports that can be generated and displayed by selecting the appropriate screen in a dialog box. Each sort of report is described in the documentation with a heading 2 that used to say The xy Statistics screen

RE: Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-19 Thread Ann Balaban
Thanks! I never thought of this approach. Regards, annb --- -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:12 PM To: Ann Balaban; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Software Purchase Justification Keep in mind the hit-by-a-bus

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
I don't want to import the entire file into the TOC. I just want a TOC that looks like this: Table of Contents List of Figures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LOF-1 List of Tables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LOT-1 Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . INTRO-1 and ect. Thanks!

Re: Autonumbering at end of paragraph is right justified

2008-02-19 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Jing, What you are trying to accomplish is a good idea, but End of Paragraph autonumbers always move out to the right margin. If you are using structured FrameMaker, you could use a Suffix Rule to add a colon where the text ends. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Art Campbell
Open the TOC. Scoll to the place where you want the LOF to appear. File Import File filename.LOF and set the options as you'd like. Then repeat the previous step for the LOT. Art On Feb 19, 2008 12:10 PM, Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, don't mean to be thick -- I'm still

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Carrie Baker
Frame 7.2 I am documenting an application with all sorts of reports that can be generated and displayed by selecting the appropriate screen in a dialog box. Each sort of report is described in the documentation with a heading 2 that used to say The xy Statistics screen and explains what you do

ANN: FM, Acrobat seminars - SF Bay Area Toronto (May)

2008-02-19 Thread Shlomo Perets
SF Bay Area (San Carlos), California: * Exploring FrameScript (hands-on), May 19-20 * Interactive 3D Models in PDFs with Acrobat Professional/3D, May 21 * FrameMaker Template Design, May 22-23 Toronto, Canada (hosted by Front Runner Training, www.front-runner.com ): * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat

Re: Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Well, now I have a problem. We've decided to keep the order TOC, LOF, LOT, and to put the LOF and the LOT in the TOC. Is there some way I can automate that? Or, since the LOF and the LOT are automatically generated, do I have to do it by hand each time I generate a TOC? Thanks so much,

Autonumbering at end of paragraph is right justified

2008-02-19 Thread Jing Torralba
Hello FrameMaker experts! FrameMaker 7.2 on WinXP - We use a standard heading to introduce procedures and the text generally says To do something: then these are followed by numbered steps. Sometimes writers remember to type the colon at the end, sometimes they don't. So we thought building

REVIEW: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing [AppScout]

2008-02-19 Thread Grant Hogarth
Given the number of times PDF stuff comes up on this list, I thought this worth forwarding. Grant --- AppScout: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing http://ct2.enews.pcmag.com/rd/cts?d=42-615-574-954-672680-137662-0-0-0- 1-9-269 Why should you have to purchase Adobe

SourceForge project: Office Binary (doc, xls, ppt) Translator to Open XML Project

2008-02-19 Thread Grant Hogarth
SourceForge: Office Binary (doc, xls, ppt) Translator to Open XML Project Brian Jones, Blog As promised last month, the binary documentation (.doc, .xls, .ppt) is now live. In addition to this, the project to create an open source translator (binary to Open XML) has now been formed on

Registering a new FrameMaker license

2008-02-19 Thread Daniel Emory
I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and then registering it with adobe so as to get the upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already registered to someone else. How can I

RE: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Combs, Richard
Carrie Baker wrote: Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text that appears in the cross reference is something that I type in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say xy statistics, even though the header it jumps to is called Displaying xy statistics)?

help needed with cleanfm batch file

2008-02-19 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Folks A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's backup and lock files from a folder. I kept a copy of the batch file code, but now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use it. My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to

Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Carrie Baker
What clever ideas you both have had. thanks very much On 2/19/08, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Carrie and Steve: To extend Steve's suggestion a bit: If you always want to ignore the lead in word or phrase, whatever it may be, in the cross-reference - sometimes displaying the ,

Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:01:21 +0200, Carrie Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text that appears in the cross reference is something that I type in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say xy statistics, even though the header it

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Thanks everyone who chimed in on this! I'll take these references back to the table and see if we can settle this. ps I'm delighted I'm right. Is that wrong? :) On 2/18/08, Mike Wickham wrote: > The Chicago Manual of Style shows this as the proper order: > > Table of Contents > List of

Chautauqua

2008-02-19 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Framers, who has attended the FrameMaker 2008 Chautauqua last week? Any impressions, goodies, important news I (and the other absentees) have missed? Thanks in advance. -- Yves Barbion Scripto Belgium

Software Purchase Justification

2008-02-19 Thread Ann Balaban
Thanks! I never thought of this approach. Regards, annb --- -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:jsgamm...@imprivata.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:12 PM To: Ann Balaban; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Software Purchase Justification Keep in mind the

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Carrie Baker
Frame 7.2 I am documenting an application with all sorts of reports that can be generated and displayed by selecting the appropriate screen in a dialog box. Each sort of report is described in the documentation with a heading 2 that used to say "The xy Statistics screen" and explains what you do

ANN: FM, Acrobat seminars - SF Bay Area & Toronto (May)

2008-02-19 Thread Shlomo Perets
SF Bay Area (San Carlos), California: * Exploring FrameScript (hands-on), May 19-20 * Interactive 3D Models in PDFs with Acrobat Professional/3D, May 21 * FrameMaker Template Design, May 22-23 Toronto, Canada (hosted by Front Runner Training, www.front-runner.com ): * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Well, now I have a problem. We've decided to keep the order TOC, LOF, LOT, and to put the LOF and the LOT in the TOC. Is there some way I can automate that? Or, since the LOF and the LOT are automatically generated, do I have to do it by hand each time I generate a TOC? Thanks so much,

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Art Campbell
Assuming you mean that they're still going to be discrete lists within the TOC, no, it shouldn't be a problem. In the TOC, just import the LOF and LOT files as text insets. Art On Feb 19, 2008 11:52 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Well, now I have a problem. > > We've decided to keep the order TOC,

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Sorry, don't mean to be thick -- I'm still learning Framemaker! How do I do this? I'm on Windows XP running FM 8.0. I have the book open, with the TOC highlighted. All other files are closed. Thanks so much. Deirdre On 2/19/08, Art Campbell wrote: > Assuming you mean that they're still

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote: > Assuming you mean that they're still going to be discrete lists within > the TOC, no, it shouldn't be a problem. > In the TOC, just import the LOF and LOT files as text insets. > > Art > > On Feb 19, 2008 11:52 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: >> Well, now I have a problem. >> >>

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Art Campbell
Open the TOC. Scoll to the place where you want the LOF to appear. File > Import > File > filename.LOF and set the options as you'd like. Then repeat the previous step for the LOT. Art On Feb 19, 2008 12:10 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Sorry, don't mean to be thick -- I'm still learning

Question about TOC, LOF, LOT

2008-02-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
I don't want to import the entire file into the TOC. I just want a TOC that looks like this: Table of Contents List of Figures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LOF-1 List of Tables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LOT-1 Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . INTRO-1 and ect. Thanks!

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
Carrie Baker wrote: > Frame 7.2 > I am documenting an application with all sorts of reports that can be > generated and displayed by selecting the appropriate screen in a > dialog box. > Each sort of report is described in the documentation with a heading > 2 that used to say "The xy Statistics

Autonumbering at end of paragraph is right justified

2008-02-19 Thread Jing Torralba
Hello FrameMaker experts! FrameMaker 7.2 on WinXP - We use a standard heading to introduce procedures and the text generally says To do : then these are followed by numbered steps. Sometimes writers remember to type the colon at the end, sometimes they don't. So we thought building the colon

Autonumbering at end of paragraph is right justified

2008-02-19 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Jing, What you are trying to accomplish is a good idea, but End of Paragraph autonumbers always move out to the right margin. If you are using structured FrameMaker, you could use a Suffix Rule to add a colon where the text ends. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Carrie and Steve: To extend Steve's suggestion a bit: If you always want to ignore the "lead in" word or phrase, whatever it may be, in the cross-reference - sometimes "displaying the ", sometimes "defining an ", sometimes "brewing with a ", etc - consider constructing these headings with

REVIEW: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing [AppScout]

2008-02-19 Thread Grant Hogarth
Given the number of times PDF stuff comes up on this list, I thought this worth forwarding. Grant --- AppScout: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing Why should you have to purchase Adobe

SourceForge project: Office Binary (doc, xls, ppt) Translator to Open XML Project

2008-02-19 Thread Grant Hogarth
SourceForge: Office Binary (doc, xls, ppt) Translator to Open XML Project Brian Jones, Blog "As promised last month, the binary documentation (.doc, .xls, .ppt) is now live. In addition to this, the project to create an open source translator (binary to Open XML) has now been formed on

Registering a new FrameMaker license

2008-02-19 Thread Daniel Emory
I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and then registering it with adobe so as to get the upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already registered to someone else. How can I

Registering a new FrameMaker license

2008-02-19 Thread Dov Isaacs
Unless you can get the eBay vendor to give you the serial number prior to your bidding for the item, letting you confirm that the software is (1) not pirated and (2) not already upgraded from, there isn't much you can do. >From our experience at Adobe listening to tales of woe, eBay is really not

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Combs, Richard
Carrie Baker wrote: > Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text > that appears in the cross reference is something that I type > in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say > xy statistics, even though the header it jumps to is called > Displaying xy

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Carrie Baker
What clever ideas you both have had. thanks very much On 2/19/08, Peter Gold wrote: > Hi, Carrie and Steve: > > To extend Steve's suggestion a bit: > > If you always want to ignore the "lead in" word or phrase, whatever it > may be, in the cross-reference - sometimes "displaying the ", >

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

2008-02-19 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:01:21 +0200, "Carrie Baker" wrote: >Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text that >appears in the cross reference is something that I type in, and not >the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say xy statistics, even >though the header it jumps to