Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Art Campbell
There was some kind of Zapf Dingbat fix released years ago, but I'm a fairly consistent upgrader so I haven't looked for it for maybe a decade or more. Look at the FM updates pages... Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52

Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Stuart Rogers
Might have been this: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/395627 sr. On 2015-Apr-13 12:25 PM, Art Campbell wrote: There was some kind of Zapf Dingbat fix released years ago, but I'm a fairly consistent upgrader so I haven't looked for it for maybe a decade or more. Look at the FM updates

Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
The Zapf Dingbats fix I remember was for FM8, when the switch to Unicode broke all that stuff. I don't recall FM 7.2 having any special issues with Zapf. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: There was some kind of Zapf Dingbat fix released years ago, but

Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
You can't just paste the character in that field. You need to look up the hex code or key sequence in the FrameMaker 7 FrameMaker Character Sets (Windows) PDF. Be sure to use the FM7 version of that doc and not a later version. There may be other issues with the font installation. The last time I

try not to laugh out loud at this question...

2015-04-13 Thread hessiansx4
I was explaining text insets in FM and was asked if Word does anything similar. Does it? I did a cursory online search but didn't come up with any usable information.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks everyone. Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’ve used DITA for about two years authoring with Oxygen and EasyDITA. I outsourced my script writing to a third party. That’s the problem with DITA. To get the docs and help to look professional, you have to outsource script writing and that’s expensive.

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
If your docs are translated, ask your translation service what they think about Flare vs. DITA. You can get a 30-day free trial of Flare. Import your DITA and see how it compares. There can be a steep learning curve at first but once you find all the features you need it's very flexible. On Mon,

RE: try not to laugh out loud at this question...

2015-04-13 Thread Veronica Kutt
Hello, I believe you can get results in Word, if you use a tool called SmartDocs, a content management and reuse solution for Microsoft Word. www.thirtysix.net Veronica Warm Regards, Veronica Kutt President Front Runner Training, a div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Writer
Gillian, I'm really unclear why you think you need to get someone to write scripts for you. Getting a PDF from FM with or without Dita FMx is not hard. Time-consuming, but not hard. I haven't looked at the new output capabilities in FM 12, but they give you other options. As you already know,

RE: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Fred Ridder
If I recall correctly (and it has been quite a few years since I last used FM7), I believe that FM7 was the last version that did not support Unicode and therefore required you to use decimal character numbers rather than the hex codes that Unicode uses. But either way, it is 100% correct that

Re: try not to laugh out loud at this question...

2015-04-13 Thread Scott Turner
Not as Framemaker does it. Closest function is embedding another file, or putting a text from in place of a graphic. They are then static. I don't trust Word to reference anything reliably. On Apr 13, 2015, at 13:15, hessiansx4 hessian...@yahoo.com wrote: I was explaining text insets in FM

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Shmuel
If you are interest in switching to topic-based authoring, and you are using Frame already, it might be easier to stick with Frame and switch to Structured Frame, which I believe is also topic-based authoring. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer

FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Davide Piva
Hello Framers. I'm having problems with FM 7.2 on WXP Pro and Zapf Dingbats font. I'm building a serie of bulleted lists and I want to use the arrow and other symbols. After I paste the character in the Autonumber format field and update the paragraph format, a different Zapf symbol appears in

Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 2015-Apr-13 4:25 AM, Davide Piva wrote: Hello Framers. I'm having problems with FM 7.2 on WXP Pro and Zapf Dingbats font. I'm building a serie of bulleted lists and I want to use the arrow and other symbols. After I paste the character in the Autonumber format field and update the paragraph

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Art Campbell
I think you answered your own question -- if you do need custom scripts to do DITA and the company can't afford it, it can't afford it. Given that you probably know FM better than Flare, I'd do FM over Flare because unstructured Flare isn't going to buy you much, if anything, and there's still a

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Writer
Gillian asked: How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages of topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for you. Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is that. How is their help file making product? IMHO,

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Gillian Why would you have to hire someone to write scripts if you do DITA? Just like Art, I'd use FM with DITA-FMx. If you know how to create unstructured Fm templates, you can easily learn how to modify the component templates that come with DITA-FMx. Actually, the process is quite simple:

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Flare's not a DITA authoring tool the way Oxygen, XMetal, or structured FrameMaker are. Oxygen is kind of like a DITA-based Flare. Flare can export DITA, but since Flare's source is not as structured, the DITA output might need some work before it would be usable. Anything you *can* do with

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread gr...@hedgewizard.net
My apologies for the format; I seem to be thinking in bullets this morning. * Flare is a tool; DITA is a standard (or collection of standards). * You can use Flare to produce DITA (http://webhelp.madcapsoftware.com/flare11/Content/DITA/About_DITA.htm) * There are multiple other tools that can

Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
You can write topics with any tool, but Flare sort of forces you to, since the source is one file per topic (at least down to some heading level). Flare templates are extremely customizable. On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net wrote: How does Flare compare to

Re: FM7 and Zapf Dingbats

2015-04-13 Thread gr...@hedgewizard.net
It could be that you have not added wherever the fonts are stored to the FrameMaker Font path. IIRC, in 7.2 there was an option under FilePreferences that allowed you to specify the path(s) that FM would look for the font files. You can also edit the maker.ini file directly to add the path.

RE: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Abungu, Salome
You should probably visit the DITA.XML website (http://dita.xml.org). According to its site: DITA XML.org is the official community gathering place and information resource for the DITA OASIS Standard, an XML architecture for designing, writing, managing, and publishing information. This is