> OK, be prepared to be surprised. Pull down the Image menu, go to Mode and
> gaze at the two entries "8 Bits / Channel" and "16 Bits / Channel."
> I've been using it for years; it ain't new.
> Yes, the Wikipedia article seems to verify what I was saying; that the same
> file can be referred to a
Art Campbell wrote:
I think we're using slightly different terms when describing
the same files.
In photos/photoshop, an 8-bit depth means 8 bits of red,
green, and blue info. 16 million shades (256X256X256). Which
snip
The color definition thing is really wierd. I never saw that
Commenting only on specific issues...
Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (in part):
Color depth is generally specified as bits per pixel (bpp) -- see this
Wikipedia topic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth
snip
Yes, the Wikipedia article seems to verify what I was saying; that
Fred Ridder wrote:
If this website is one of the places you have been learning
from, then perhaps we have identified the root source of some
of the issues. Even on a quick reading, this page contains
some things that are laughably inaccurate. For one example:
snip
Wow. An inkjet
Art Campbell wrote:
> I think we're using slightly different terms when describing
> the same files.
> In photos/photoshop, an 8-bit depth means 8 bits of red,
> green, and blue info. 16 million shades (256X256X256). Which
> The color definition thing is really wierd. I never saw that
>
Stuff cut in below...
On 5/5/06, Combs, Richard wrote:
> Like I said, I'm no expert, but I've never heard the term "8-bit" used
> to describe an image that uses 24 bits to define each pixel, and I'd be
> very surprised if Photoshop uses the term that way.
OK, be prepared to be surprised. Pull
Commenting only on specific issues...
>Art Campbell wrote (in part):
>>Color depth is generally specified as "bits per pixel (bpp)" -- see this
>>Wikipedia topic:
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth
>
>
>Yes, the Wikipedia article seems to verify what I was saying; that the same
Fred Ridder wrote:
> If this website is one of the places you have been learning
> from, then perhaps we have identified the root source of some
> of the issues. Even on a quick reading, this page contains
> some things that are laughably inaccurate. For one example:
Wow. An inkjet printer
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Subject: A bug note on using .png graphics
I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after
kicking it around a lot, think I may have found a bug
them too much bigger.
Grant
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To: Grant Hogarth
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Subject: Re: A bug note on using .png graphics
Color list? You mean like FM's defined colors?
I don't think so. We're talking digital photographs here, with millions
of colors.
The 8-bit limitation is just the bit depth of the file. FM doesn't
Annoying, yet brilliantly exacting. ;-)
On 5/4/06, Grant Hogarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sadly, FM reads the color list from pngs (and AFAIK, *only* pngs), and
adds the color definitions in the image file to the list of available
colors in the FM file. It's very annoying.
--
Bill Swallow
Sadly, FM reads the color list from pngs (and AFAIK, *only*
pngs), and adds the color definitions in the image file to
the list of available colors in the FM file. It's very annoying.
And don't forget that you can't delete them with the color definition
thing where you can delete every
16 million colors vs 256 for GIF
--- Jim Light [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So someone refresh my memory please, the advantage of using png
files is what?
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
So long and thanks for all the fish.
___
You are
I think we're using slightly different terms when describing the same files.
In photos/photoshop, an 8-bit depth means 8 bits of red, green, and blue
info. 16 million shades (256X256X256). Which is what I think you're calling
24 bit, meaning 3x8 bits. Files come out of my Nikons at 12-bit depth
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On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:09 PM
To: List, Framers; Free Framers
Subject: A bug & note on using .png graphics
I recently
04, 2006 1:57 PM
To: Grant Hogarth
Cc: List, Framers; Free Framers
Subject: Re: A bug & note on using .png graphics
Color list? You mean like FM's defined colors?
I don't think so. We're talking digital photographs here, with millions
of colors.
The 8-bit limitation is just the bit depth o
Annoying, yet brilliantly exacting. ;-)
On 5/4/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:
> Sadly, FM "reads" the color list from pngs (and AFAIK, *only* pngs), and
> adds the color definitions in the image file to the list of available
> colors in the FM file. It's very annoying.
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List
> Sadly, FM "reads" the color list from pngs (and AFAIK, *only*
> pngs), and adds the color definitions in the image file to
> the list of available colors in the FM file. It's very annoying.
And don't forget that you can't delete them with the color definition
thing where you can delete
1:41 PM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: A bug & note on using .png graphics
> Sadly, FM "reads" the color list from pngs (and AFAIK, *only*
> pngs), and adds the color definitions in the image file to
> the list of available colors in
16 million colors vs 256 for GIF
--- Jim Light wrote:
> So someone refresh my memory please, the advantage of using png
> files is what?
>
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Art Campbell wrote:
> Color list? You mean like FM's defined colors?
> I don't think so. We're talking digital photographs here,
> with millions of colors.
> The 8-bit limitation is just the bit depth of the file. FM
> doesn't do anything at all with the colors of graphics and
> the colors it
I think we're using slightly different terms when describing the same files.
In photos/photoshop, an 8-bit depth means 8 bits of red, green, and blue
info. 16 million shades (256X256X256). Which is what I think you're calling
24 bit, meaning 3x8 bits. Files come out of my Nikons at 12-bit depth
I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after
kicking it around a
lot, think I may have found a bug either in FM's memory managment
(surprise!) or the
way it's handling graphics files.
* FM 7.2 / 158
* Windows XP SP2 with all patches
* Two machines, one with 2 M RAM, one
: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:09 PM
To: List, Framers; Free Framers
Subject: A bug note on using .png graphics
I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after
kicking it around a
lot, think I may have found a bug either in FM's memory managment
(surprise!) or the
way it's
, Framers; Free Framers
Subject: A bug note on using .png graphics
I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after
kicking it around a
lot, think I may have found a bug either in FM's memory managment
(surprise!) or the
way it's handling graphics files.
* FM 7.2 / 158
* Windows
I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after
kicking it around a
lot, think I may have found a bug either in FM's memory managment
(surprise!) or the
way it's handling graphics files.
* FM 7.2 / 158
* Windows XP SP2 with all patches
* Two machines, one with 2 M RAM, one
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I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after
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