RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-17 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
: How many FM users are there? Max, Any idea of when the next version of Frame will be released? Will it be 7.3 or 8.0? -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:45 PM To: Diane Gaskill

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-17 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
16, 2007 8:43 AM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; Diane Gaskill; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Max, Any idea of when the next version of Frame will be released? Will it be 7.3 or 8.0? -Gillian -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
PROTECTED] www.brightpathsolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:45 PM To: Diane Gaskill; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Hi Diane, Thank you

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Gillian Flato
Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Hi Diane, Thank you for checking with me; your timing could not be better. I am at the STC Annual Convention in Minneapolis, where I've had an opportunity to peak in on several DITA presentations and solicit feedback on FrameMaker's DITA capabilities from

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Paul Findon
On 16 May 2007, at 16:00, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: Just as a further note to the info Max passed on, I'm happy to say that several of the features shown included some awesome tools that Frame has been missing for years. While it was demo of a pre- release and not all versions may make it

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Lester C. Smalley
I will hazard the guess that this assertion is based on the same argument ArborText used to (maybe still does?) make about FrameMaker not being real SGML (or XML) because it saves files in its own internal format. Now that is no longer true for XML w/ version 7+, but it would not surprise me that

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
10:45 PM To: Diane Gaskill; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Hi Diane, Thank you for checking with me; your timing could not be better. I am at the STC Annual Convention in Minneapolis, where I've had an opportunity to peak in on several DITA presentations

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Gillian Flato
Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:45 PM To: Diane Gaskill; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Hi Diane, Thank you for checking with me; your timing could not be better. I am at the STC Annual Convention in Minneapolis, where I've had an opportunity to peak

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-16 Thread Lester C. Smalley
I will hazard the guess that this assertion is based on the same argument ArborText used to (maybe still does?) make about FrameMaker not being "real SGML" (or XML) because it saves files in its own internal format. Now that is no longer true for XML w/ version 7+, but it would not surprise me

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-15 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Max, The PTC rep told me today that FM DITA is proprietary and not compatible with anything else. Is this true? She also told me that the PTC version of DITA is standard (whatever that means). One of our divisions in Japan has decided to go with AT. We are leaning toward structured FM.

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
/in/maxwellhoffmann -Original Message- From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:09 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Hi Max, The PTC rep told me today that FM DITA is proprietary

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-15 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Max, The PTC rep told me today that FM DITA is proprietary and not compatible with anything else. Is this true? She also told me that the PTC version of DITA is "standard" (whatever that means). One of our divisions in Japan has decided to go with AT. We are leaning toward structured

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
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RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-11 Thread Diane Gaskill
: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: How many FM users are there? Hi Bodvar, Given that many FrameMaker users are in the software industry (at least here in Northern California), the number of unused licenses may be higher than you think. For example, as the manager of the Pubs department

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-11 Thread Diane Gaskill
]On Behalf Of Susan Modlin Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:09 AM To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: How many FM users are there? Hi Bodvar, Given that many FrameMaker users are in the software industry (at least here in Northern California), the number of unused

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
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RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
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OT: Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Jefro
Totally random point of interest---that is also roughly the number of certificated pilots in the US. Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: I think 650,000 total licenses would be a safe, conservative figure. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Diane Gaskill
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Diane, When I left Frame Tech in 1994, internal metrics and intelligent speculation put the total number of worldwide licenses at around 300K. With Wanock's listing of 500K 5 years later, you could assume liberal growth

RE: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Diane Gaskill
an application runs. Thanks lots! Diane = -Original Message- From: Maxwell Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 10, 2007 10:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? Diane, A friend forwarded an article to me with more substantial and credible

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
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How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
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OT: Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Jefro
Totally random point of interest---that is also roughly the number of certificated pilots in the US. Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: > I think 650,000 total licenses would be a safe, conservative figure. >

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Diane Gaskill
: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? > > >Diane, > >When I left Frame Tech in 1994, internal metrics and intelligent speculation >put the total number of worldwide licenses at around 300K. With Wanock's >listing of 500K 5 years later, you could

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-10 Thread Diane Gaskill
which an application runs. Thanks lots! Diane = -Original Message- >From: Maxwell Hoffmann >Sent: May 10, 2007 10:07 AM >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: How many FM users are there? > >Diane, > >A friend forwarded an article to me with

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi all, I know Adobe keeps all of their numbers a Big Secret, but I am creating a comparison spreadsheet in my research on FM vs AT and I need to have a general idea of how many FM seats have been installed. FM has been in use since the late 1980s and I would estimate at least 100K seats. If

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Hi Diane, Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are _using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand (including all paperwork). This leads me to assume that a (small?) number of

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Houser
At the 1999 FrameUsers Conference in Minneapolis, somebody posed this question to Adobe co-founder and then-CEO John Warnock in a public Q/A session. He responded that FrameMaker had about a half-million installed seats worldwide. This information is a bit old, but it is the only public

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Gold
FrameMaker licenses on UNIX can be shared or personal. Users can check out a shared license when they need it, then check it back in when they're done. Depending on demand, the number of users of a single shared license can vary, so it's difficult to be precise. Personal licenses are

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Borokowski
My guess is that there are some exceptions to this. People who routinely try out software are good at reading online help and figuring out software even more complex (gasp!) than FrameMaker. This is not an endorsement of piracy, but were I Adobe, I might encourage this behavior, because people who

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Susan Modlin
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 3:20:53 AM Subject: Re: How many FM users are there? Hi Diane, Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are _using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand

Re: How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Gold
Susan Modlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bodvar, Given that many FrameMaker users are in the software industry (at least here in Northern California), the number of unused licenses may be higher than you think. For example, as the manager of the Pubs department at Company A, I bought nine

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi all, I know Adobe keeps all of their numbers a Big Secret, but I am creating a comparison spreadsheet in my research on FM vs AT and I need to have a general idea of how many FM seats have been installed. FM has been in use since the late 1980s and I would estimate at least 100K seats. If

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Hi Diane, Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are _using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand (including all paperwork). This leads me to assume that a (small?) number of

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Alan Houser
At the 1999 FrameUsers Conference in Minneapolis, somebody posed this question to Adobe co-founder and then-CEO John Warnock in a public Q/A session. He responded that FrameMaker had "about a half-million" installed seats worldwide. This information is a bit old, but it is the only public

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Gold
FrameMaker licenses on UNIX can be "shared" or "personal." Users can check out a shared license when they need it, then check it back in when they're done. Depending on demand, the number of users of a single shared license can vary, so it's difficult to be precise. Personal licenses are

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Borokowski
My guess is that there are some exceptions to this. People who routinely try out software are good at reading online help and figuring out software even more complex (gasp!) than FrameMaker. This is not an endorsement of piracy, but were I Adobe, I might encourage this behavior, because people who

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Susan Modlin
m Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 3:20:53 AM Subject: Re: How many FM users are there? Hi Diane, Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are _using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand (inc

How many FM users are there?

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Gold
Susan Modlin wrote: > Hi Bodvar, > > Given that many FrameMaker users are in the software > industry (at least here in Northern California), the number > of unused licenses may be higher than you think. For > example, as the manager of the Pubs department at Company > A, I bought nine licenses