RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Austin Meredith
Dov wrote: On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version is currently being developed. Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as Adobe

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread maxwell.hoffmann
-Original Message- From: Jakob Fix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:47 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Combs, Richard
maxwell.hoffmann wrote: (I've read the other replies to this post also.) Like Bernard A., I too am at the annual FrameMaker Chautauqua. (A great venue for new info and easy access to experts; I highly recommend it!) I attended the 2005 Chautauqua and thought it was well worth my

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
This will be the 30th and I hope the LAST of all posts under this subject line. This is taking an awful lot of user bandwidth and productive time away from revenue-generating, useful work. Please desist from continuing this thread. This poor horse has been beat to death so many times that only

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Austin Meredith
Dov wrote: >On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, >let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development. >A next major version is currently being developed. Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread maxwell.hoffmann
2211 Mob. 301.693.7728 Fax: 503.274.2611 www.welocalize.com -Original Message- From: Jakob Fix [mailto:jakob@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:47 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Combs, Richard
maxwell.hoffmann wrote: > (I've read the other replies to this post also.) Like Bernard > A., I too am at the annual FrameMaker Chautauqua. (A great > venue for new info and easy access to experts; I highly > recommend it!) I attended the 2005 Chautauqua and thought it was well worth my

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
This will be the 30th and I hope the LAST of all posts under this subject line. This is taking an awful lot of user bandwidth and productive time away from revenue-generating, useful work. Please desist from continuing this thread. This poor horse has been beat to death so many times that only

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the organization I am working

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Lin Surasky
Gosh, has it been 4 months ALREADY? I didn't think this would come up again for oh, at least another week or so Where does the time go? ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
/2008 5:46 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
-Original Message- From: Jakob Fix Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:47 AM Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Jakob Fix wrote: I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently You know, this question was worth serious consideration the first dozen or so times it came up. It was mildly amusing the next dozen or so. Now -- after

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Lester C. Smalley
and then the Technical Communication Suite edition, this is frankly ridiculous at this time. On Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:16 AM, Richard Combs wrote: | Jakob Fix wrote: | | I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand | information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Swallow
] wrote: Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the organization I

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Findon
On 14 Feb 2008, at 14:52, Dov Isaacs wrote: On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version is currently being developed. Shucks... ...I was just about to register saveframemakerpetition.org :-)) Paul

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Mike Wickham
Adobe just came out with version 8 a few months ago, and two updates since. They are also actively seeking feature requests for version 9 in the Adobe FrameMaker Users Forum. You'd be better off to worry about FrameMaker's competitors. :) Mike Wickham

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread rinch
Oh, no, not again! Where do these death of FrameMaker myths start? If you've been going to conferences and reading industry-related publications, you'd know FrameMaker is alive and well loved by Adobe. Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I wonder is these rumors are started by competitors. It's possible that Adobe puts less development time into FM as they do their other more profitable programs, but I think it's highly unlikely that they will stop developing it entirely. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 Mike Wickham

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They just invested a ton of work into not only FM8 but also to RH 6 so the two tools can work together. This topic comes up regularly, and yet FM hasn't gone anywhere. This could fit nicely into a thread on a

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Only if it's shinier. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:03 AM To: Framers Subject: Re: future of FrameMaker Why do programs always have to go somewhere to be worth using

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Of Bernard Aschwanden Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:22 PM To: 'Jakob Fix'; 'Framers List' Subject: RE: future of FrameMaker Please see every email from the past 10 plus years that I've posted to the Frame Users about the demise of Frame. Rather than writing it again it helps me. I should just put

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Bernard: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Bernard Aschwanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fast typing, less proofreading in my message below. Looking over this I see the errors. Note that they are my fault, not the fault of Outlook or of FrameMaker. Which has a future. Definitely. I'm

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread richard.melanson
What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see it as I was deleting it! Who is the original poster of the question, has he spoken up

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
. :-) - Dov -Original Message- From: Jakob Fix Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:30 PM Hi Rick, everybody, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of Framemaker

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
Hi Rick, everybody, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the Technical Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp, and Acrobat 8 3D, the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because Captivate and RoboHelp are Windows-only applications, and Acrobat on Mac OS X is short a few

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread John Posada
Is it that time again? On 2/14/08, Jakob Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the organization I am working

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Lin Surasky
: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the organization I

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
.com on behalf of Jakob Fix > Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM > To: Framers List > Subject: future of FrameMaker > > Hello, > > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand > information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of > people

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
e time go? > ;-) > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Jakob Fix > Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM > To: Framers List > Subject: future of FrameMaker > > Hello, > > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand > i

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
- Dov > -Original Message- > From: Jakob Fix > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:47 AM > > Hello, > > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand > information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of > people having attended A

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Jakob Fix wrote: > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand > information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently You know, this question was worth serious consideration the first dozen or so times it came up. It was mildly amusing the next dozen or s

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Findon
On 14 Feb 2008, at 14:52, Dov Isaacs wrote: > On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that > FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version > is currently being developed. Shucks... ...I was just about to register :-)) Paul

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Lester C. Smalley
and then the Technical Communication Suite edition, this is frankly ridiculous at this time. On Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:16 AM, Richard Combs wrote: | Jakob Fix wrote: | | > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand | > information about the future of FrameMaker.

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Swallow
llo, > > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand > information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of > people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that > Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the > orga

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread ri...@inficon.com
Oh, no, not again! Where do these "death of FrameMaker" myths start? If you've been going to conferences and reading industry-related publications, you'd know FrameMaker is alive and well loved by Adobe. Richard

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Mike Wickham
Adobe just came out with version 8 a few months ago, and two updates since. They are also actively seeking feature requests for version 9 in the Adobe FrameMaker Users Forum. You'd be better off to worry about FrameMaker's competitors. :) Mike Wickham

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I wonder is these rumors are started by competitors. It's possible that Adobe puts less development time into FM as they do their other more profitable programs, but I think it's highly unlikely that they will stop developing it entirely. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 Mike Wickham

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Bill Swallow wrote: > They just invested a ton of work into not only FM8 but also to RH 6 so > the two tools can work together. > > This topic comes up regularly, and yet FM hasn't gone anywhere. This could fit nicely into a thread on a tech-writer's list

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Why do programs always have to "go" somewhere to be worth using? As long a company supports it's products, tries to fix the bugs and is keeping up with other tools of it's kind, there does not have to be a major overhaul in each version. That's the myth that software companies like to

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Only if it's shinier. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:03 AM > To: Framers > Subject: Re: future of FrameMaker &g

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
14, 2008 7:47 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably stop

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:22 PM To: 'Jakob Fix'; 'Framers List' Subject: RE: future of FrameMaker Please see every email from the past 10 plus years that I've posted to the Frame Users about the demise of Frame. Rather than writing

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Bernard: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: > Fast typing, less proofreading in my message below. Looking over this I see > the errors. Note that they are my fault, not the fault of Outlook or of > FrameMaker. Which has a future. Definitely. I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread richard.melan...@us.tel.com
What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see it as I was deleting it! Who is the original poster of the question, has he spoken up

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
Hi Rick, everybody, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, wrote: > What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of > Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server > identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to se

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
e-education at Gulag Adobe. :-) - Dov > -Original Message- > From: Jakob Fix > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:30 PM > > Hi Rick, everybody, > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, wrote: > > What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Findon
On 14 Feb 2008, at 18:22, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: > I'm at the FrameMaker Chautauqua in North Carolina right now. Adobe > is here. > They are talking about the future of the product. The development > team is > here. They are interviewing people and discussing requirements for the > future.

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the Technical Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp, and Acrobat 8 3D, the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because Captivate and RoboHelp are Windows-only applications, and Acrobat on Mac OS X is short a few

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:09 -0600 14/2/08, Peter Gold wrote: >Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the Technical >Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp, and Acrobat 8 3D, >the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because Captivate and RoboHelp >are Windows-only

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ... Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place. You obviously can try to use it under Parallels or Boot

WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Findon
On 14 Feb 2008, at 21:22, Dov Isaacs wrote: > Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ... > > Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version > of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact > same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place. >

WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar issue came up with regards to running InDesign under WINE on various Linux and UNIX

WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Flato, Gillian
: WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker) Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar issue came up with regards to runnin

future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread John Posada
Is it that time again? On 2/14/08, Jakob Fix wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand > information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of > people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that > Ad

ANN: Adobe on The Future of FrameMaker and RoboHELP

2006-09-16 Thread Jobs at ProSpring
Karl Matthews from Adobe Systems will be presenting a lunch presentation on the future of FrameMaker and RoboHELP at LavaCon on Monday, October 2. Additional sessions and hands-on workshops are being presented by Frame experts Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, more. Discount airfare and hotel

ANN: Adobe on The Future of FrameMaker and RoboHELP

2006-09-15 Thread Jobs@ProSpring
Karl Matthews from Adobe Systems will be presenting a lunch presentation on the future of FrameMaker and RoboHELP at LavaCon on Monday, October 2. Additional sessions and hands-on workshops are being presented by Frame experts Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, more. Discount airfare and hotel