Re: Hidden frame

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:34 -0600 5/2/07, Doug wrote: Yes, for some reason my Right master page lost it's A name/was renamed to HIDDEN. And everytime I imported a new text inset it reapplied the HIDDEN text frame name of all instances of the Right body page. Bummer. I fixed it by renaming the master page and then

Re: Hidden frame

2007-02-06 Thread Whites
It might be humorous - and informative at the same time - if some Framer were to make a compilation of such horror stories. Being made aware of bad practices can be helpful - even to those of us who are (we hope) less incompetent. My favorites were a pair of manuals I inherited from a

Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

2007-02-06 Thread Gordon McLean
Hi all, Still finding my feet with Structured Framemaker.. is there a way to turn off Element Boundaries when generating a PDF (save as PDF option)?? The boundaries are great to work with but my reviewers don't like them. How do I get rid of them across an entire book before PDFing? I've

Setting an autogenerated TOC inserted by refence to condition paper

2007-02-06 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hi I use unstructured Framemaker 7.2: I know that you can define chapter TOCs by using XREFs in a table. This is however a bit tedious when your Heading/topics move around. Right now I generate a standalone chapter TOC which I import by reference and set to condition tag Paper. It would

RE: Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

2007-02-06 Thread Gordon McLean
Yes Peter, and if I keep the files open I can generate a PDF without the boundaries showing. But if I hide the boundaries, close the file, and re-open it, the boundaries re-appear after a brief (flicker) delay. Same goes if I hide boundaries at the book level. Opening the file itself causes the

Global change of table row height settings: Solved

2007-02-06 Thread TEPLITZ Ronald
I have a doc with a lot of tables. I want to change the row height min and max values of all tables rather than just one table at a time. Does anyone have a technique or a utility to do this? Solved. I had to do this because I converted a large PDF with lots of tables to a Word doc and

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-06 Thread Keith Arnett
This is a bit off-topic, but for what it is worth, I just finished my own evaluation of OpenOffice.org Writer. While it has a number of FrameMaker-like features, it is in no position to pose as serious competition to FrameMaker - unless you: - Can't afford FrameMaker (OOo Writer is

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Neil Tubb
Hi all, Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just put them in a big one-cell table, which works well...unless the code sample runs into the next page. I could just put it all in graphic frame, but I like the control a table offers (and how it converts to HTML via

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Neil, What advantage do you get by putting the code in a table? Are you putting a background color or shading behind the code? Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all, Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just put them

RE: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Neil Tubb
Yes- shade the background and have a border around it. Actually usually just the border. I want it to stand out...it is pretty standard in sample configurations for those of us in the networking world. -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:29 -0500 6/2/07, Neil Tubb wrote: Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just put them in a big one-cell table, which works well...unless the code sample runs into the next page. I could just put it all in graphic frame, but I like the control a table offers (and

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread David Taylor
I used to put code in graphic frames. Since moving to HTML delivery, however, they are in the text flow with a custom paragraph format. At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, Neil Tubb wrote: Hi all, Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples.

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Art Campbell
I use a one-column table with each line of code in its own cell, so it breaks cleanly. Easy to import too. Art On 2/6/07, Neil Tubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just put them in a big one-cell table, which works

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:42 + 6/2/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: Text insets. Anything else is hopeless across page boundaries. I should point out that it's normally a requirement here for the code to be updatable outside of FrameMaker, hence text insets. Art's method therefore would not work here. -- Steve

RE: Hidden frame

2007-02-06 Thread Gillian Flato
I think it is very common for software users to rise just to the level of competence where they can do their tasks and never progress beyond that level. Isn't that a derivative of the Peter principle? -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Neil, Here is another way to do it: http://www.frameexpert.com/Demos/ShadeParagraphs.htm The script adds a shaded, ruled rectangle behind the code paragraphs. This avoids the inconvience of adding code in tables or frames. This is only practical because the script is doing the work.

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, David, et. al. David Taylor wrote: they are in the text flow with a custom paragraph format. This is how I do it. In a fixed-width font (Courier) for the text to line up. I use two paragraph formats ... one for the lines of the code and one for the last line (for the extra space to the

Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Rick Quatro
This kind of conditional formatting is one of the big benefits of structured FrameMaker. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Sidebar: here is where conditional paragraph spacing control would be awesome! If the spacing could be set like if the next paragraph format

RE: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: I use a one-column table with each line of code in its own cell, so it breaks cleanly. Easy to import too. Steve Rickaby wrote: I should point out that it's normally a requirement here for the code to be updatable outside of FrameMaker, hence text insets. Art's

RE: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:27 -0700 6/2/07, Combs, Richard wrote: Actually, you can use Art's method with text insets. Briefly: Wow. This looks stupendously clever. I will experiment with it, and if my head does not explode, try it out on the next application of code insets. (I also need something simple enough

RE: Using variables for single sourcing

2007-02-06 Thread David Shaked \(Wernick\)
Linda G. Gallaher wrote: I use a plug-in, Index Tools Professional (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html) to let me use variables in the index entries. It's US$20, I believe. Scott Prentice wrote: We do have a plugin, MarkerTools, that lets you use variables within markers ..

Hidden frame

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:34 -0600 5/2/07, Doug wrote: >Yes, for some reason my Right master page lost it's A name/was renamed >to HIDDEN. And everytime I imported a new text inset it reapplied the >HIDDEN text frame name of all instances of the Right body page. >Bummer. I fixed it by renaming the master page and

Hidden frame

2007-02-06 Thread Whites
It might be humorous - and informative at the same time - if some Framer were to make a compilation of such horror stories. Being made aware of bad practices can be helpful - even to those of us who are (we hope) less incompetent. My favorites were a pair of manuals I inherited from a

Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

2007-02-06 Thread Gordon McLean
Hi all, Still finding my feet with Structured Framemaker.. is there a way to turn off Element Boundaries when generating a PDF (save as PDF option)?? The boundaries are great to work with but my reviewers don't like them. How do I get rid of them across an entire book before PDFing? I've tried

Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

2007-02-06 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Gordon: Have you tried opening all the files in the book, then applying View > Hide Element Boundaries, before generating the PDF? HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Gordon McLean wrote: > Hi all, > > Still finding my feet with Structured Framemaker.. is there

Setting an autogenerated TOC inserted by refence to condition "paper"

2007-02-06 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hi I use unstructured Framemaker 7.2: I know that you can define chapter TOCs by using XREFs in a table. This is however a bit tedious when your Heading/topics move around. Right now I generate a standalone chapter TOC which I import by reference and set to condition tag "Paper". It would be

Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

2007-02-06 Thread Gordon McLean
Yes Peter, and if I keep the files open I can generate a PDF without the boundaries showing. But if I hide the boundaries, close the file, and re-open it, the boundaries re-appear after a brief (flicker) delay. Same goes if I hide boundaries at the book level. Opening the file itself causes the

Global change of table row height settings: Solved

2007-02-06 Thread TEPLITZ Ronald
> I have a doc with a lot of tables. I want to change the row height min > and max values of all tables rather than just one table at a time. > Does anyone have a technique or a utility to do this? Solved. I had to do this because I converted a large PDF with lots of tables to a Word doc

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-06 Thread Keith Arnett
This is a bit off-topic, but for what it is worth, I just finished my own evaluation of OpenOffice.org Writer. While it has a number of FrameMaker-like features, it is in no position to pose as serious competition to FrameMaker - unless you: - Can't afford FrameMaker (OOo Writer is

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Neil Tubb
Hi all, Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just put them in a big one-cell table, which works well...unless the code sample runs into the next page. I could just put it all in graphic frame, but I like the control a table offers (and how it converts to HTML via

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Neil, What advantage do you get by putting the code in a table? Are you putting a background color or shading behind the code? Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all, Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just put them in

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Neil Tubb
Yes- shade the background and have a border around it. Actually usually just the border. I want it to stand out...it is pretty standard in sample configurations for those of us in the networking world. -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] Sent: Tuesday,

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:29 -0500 6/2/07, Neil Tubb wrote: >Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just >put them in a big one-cell table, which works well...unless the code >sample runs into the next page. I could just put it all in graphic >frame, but I like the control a table offers

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread David Taylor
I used to put code in graphic frames. Since moving to HTML delivery, however, they are in the text flow with a custom paragraph format. At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, Neil Tubb wrote: >Hi all, >Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples.

Auto Hide Element Boundaries?

2007-02-06 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Gordon: It sounds as if you're not saving the files in the state you want them to open in. The display of element boundaries and tags, as well as text symbols, and borders, and zoom percentage, are all saved with files. A quick way to manipulate multiple files is to use Shift+File. When

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Art Campbell
I use a one-column table with each line of code in its own cell, so it breaks cleanly. Easy to import too. Art On 2/6/07, Neil Tubb wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples. I generally just > put them in a big one-cell table, which works well...unless the

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:42 + 6/2/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: >Text insets. Anything else is hopeless across page boundaries. I should point out that it's normally a requirement here for the code to be updatable outside of FrameMaker, hence text insets. Art's method therefore would not work here. -- Steve

Hidden frame

2007-02-06 Thread Gillian Flato
>>I think it is very common for software users to rise just to the level of competence where they can do their tasks and never progress beyond that level. Isn't that a derivative of the Peter principle? -Gillian -Original Message- From:

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Neil, Here is another way to do it: http://www.frameexpert.com/Demos/ShadeParagraphs.htm The script adds a shaded, ruled rectangle behind the code paragraphs. This avoids the inconvience of adding code in tables or frames. This is only practical because the script is doing the work. Rick

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, David, et. al. David Taylor wrote: > they are in the text flow with a custom paragraph format. This is how I do it. In a fixed-width font (Courier) for the text to line up. I use two paragraph formats ... one for the lines of the "code" and one for the last line (for the extra space to the

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Rick Quatro
This kind of conditional formatting is one of the big benefits of structured FrameMaker. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Sidebar: here is where conditional paragraph spacing control would > be awesome! If the spacing could be set like "if the next paragraph >

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Rick. Rick Quatro wrote: > This kind of conditional formatting is one of the big benefits of > structured FrameMaker. Ah! I did not know I could do it there. I have been putting off converting all my documents to structured FrameMaker - since I am the only author on them, it has been easy

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > I use a one-column table with each line of code in its own > cell, so it breaks cleanly. > Easy to import too. Steve Rickaby wrote: > I should point out that it's normally a requirement here for > the code to be updatable outside of FrameMaker, hence text > insets.

Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

2007-02-06 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:27 -0700 6/2/07, Combs, Richard wrote: >Actually, you can use Art's method with text insets. Briefly: Wow. This looks stupendously clever. I will experiment with it, and if my head does not explode, try it out on the next application of code insets. (I also need something simple enough

Using variables for single sourcing

2007-02-06 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
Linda G. Gallaher wrote: > I use a plug-in, Index Tools Professional > (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html) to let me use > variables in the index entries. It's US$20, I believe. Scott Prentice wrote: > We do have a plugin, MarkerTools, that lets you use variables within