RE: Deeply weird font kerning issue

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:07 +0930 1/5/08, Daniel Frankham wrote: We've experienced something similar (using Structured FrameMaker 7.0p578 for Windows, and Acrobat 6) -- but only in text, not diagrams. We use FrameMaker 7.2 and Acrobat 7 now, and we haven't experienced the problem with those -- but then we haven't

Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 18:31 -0400 30/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best books for FrameMaker that I have in my collection is: The Masters Series: FrameMaker 6 by Thomas Neuburger. You can order this from Amazon or http://www.twelfthnight.com/. Even though it does not cover 7 or 8 you will get a LOT

Incorrect special characters

2008-05-15 Thread David Kuhn
I am trying to insert the following special characters using FrameMaker 7.2. I have tried the FrameMaker character sets PDF provided by Microtype for FrameMaker 7.2 and also the character sets listed for FrameMaker 8 on the FrameMaker resources website. But they appear as the wrong symbols.

RE: Incorrect special characters

2008-05-15 Thread Baruch Brodersen
David, The shortcuts apply to the Symbol character set and not the Standard Windows character set. Changing your font or creating a symbol character format solve that part of your difficulties. Also, the keystroke sequence seems to be off slightly. Instead of Ctrl+q+3, you should type

RE: Out of print FrameMaker books

2008-05-15 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I've also found http://isbn.nu/ to be a great resource. In this case, for instance, see http://isbn.nu/0735711089. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Re: Out of Frame Memory message and crash

2008-05-15 Thread mulholland4
Hi Everyone,I fixed it! thanks for all of the useful suggestions. I finally removed the new 8.03 (8.0p276) patcher using add/remove programs and guess.. what everything works once more! This is truly very odd as I thought that the new patch was supposed to cure a lot of things. Anyway, i'm happy

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Peter Courlis
Good Morning, I want to learn more about Framemaker, I have Ver. 5.5 and have fooled with that but need more experience... The prices of the latest version scare me, unless I had a contract or revenue input from writing... Recognizing that ver. 5.5 has basic functionality, what would be a next

Re: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Since you already have FrameMaker 5.5, you can upgrade to version 8 for about $300. Unless you can get an earlier version for much less, this seems like the way to go. If you are going to settle for an earlier version, I wouldn't go lower than FrameMaker 7.2. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing

Re: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Alan Houser
If you learn with FrameMaker version 5.5 and migrate to FrameMaker 8, the concepts, commands, dialogs, and user interface will remain largely familiar for unstructured authoring. You will miss various bells and whistles that have been added, and will lack experience with structured authoring

Re: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread mulholland4
Hi Peter, FrameMaker 5.5 did have some issues and yes what Rick says is really sound advice, don't go for anything less than version 7.2. Having said that, I used version 5.5 and version 6 for many years and survived! If you can't afford to upgrade at the moment, version 5.5 will allow you to

Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?

2008-05-15 Thread David Kuhn
When I first heard of TemplateMapper, I wondered if this could be used to help convert from Word to FrameMaker. Then I saw some postings on the list that confirmed that some people do use it for this. Now that I have TemplateMapper, I cannot figure out how it is helpful for this. If you Import a

RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-15 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Thanks for this, but it still won't work for me. I did exactly what Hedley outlined, but still no luck. I kept the task manager window open and watched exactly what was happening. I see two instances of framemaker803.exe start as soon as I start the actual update. I've tried ending each, but one

RE: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Fred Ridder
Responding to Peter C, mulholland4 wrote (in part): And remember, when you do upgrade you can convert the docs created in 5.5 to the upgrade version, however you can't go backwards. Not entirely true. If you save a document as MIF from any version of Frame, that MIF file can be opened from

Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater

2008-05-15 Thread Art Campbell
If you have any other Adobe aps, run update from one of them -- it doesn't have to be run from Frame -- it'll grab whatever updates are available for all of your installed aps. Also, try running it just after bootup, before you open any other applications. And you may also want to toggle your

Locking the text frame

2008-05-15 Thread Sylvia Clarke
Does any one know how to lock the text frame on the master page? When working on the body pages, I frequently inadvertently move the text frame. Regards, Sylvia Clarke Sr. Technical Communicator [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently

creating a paragraph element in a cell

2008-05-15 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi all! I've reached the edge of my knowledge. I'm using FM 8 in Windows Professional. I'm in a table, working within cells. Also, I am extremely new at FM, so think of me as a total newbie, not someone who is making educated choices. Here's what the table currently looks like: . SUPPORT

FM 8 and Content@ CMS

2008-05-15 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC
My office currently uses Content@ CMS with FM versions 6.0 thru 7.1. Has anyone experienced any problems or issues of concern using FM 8.0 with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Darren Butler NGC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to

Re: creating a paragraph element in a cell

2008-05-15 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi Sam and All: Problem fixed! I was changing the cell margin, which was changing the indent for all lines in the cell, rather than just the line I was working with. I set the cell margins back to 0.0 and changed the indent instead. Many thanks to Sarah O'Keefe who set me on the right path,

RE: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Dov Isaacs
Please be careful wrt/ EBay software purchases - a large percentage of what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen goods. Pirated includes simply copying disks and giving you the serial number as well as massive CD duplication efforts. In some cases what is being sold is a copy of a package

RE: creating a paragraph element in a cell

2008-05-15 Thread Sam Beard
Deirdre, Glad you were able to figure it out! For some odd reason, I just wasn't able to fully picture what you were trying to say. Could be that I'm a tad tired after waking up early the past few nights and not being able to get back to sleep. Then again 8^P Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

RE: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Peter Courlis
Good Afternoon, Dov Isaacs said (in reference to Framemaker): what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen goods. Gosh, I am happy that you told me that. I have seen Framemaker listed on EBay that stipulates installed on one machine, only and other variants of this statement. So I did

RE: Framemaker uses

2008-05-15 Thread Jon Harvey
I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than

Re: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:04:12 -0700, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please be careful wrt/ EBay software purchases - a large percentage of what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen goods. Pirated includes simply copying disks and giving you the serial number as well as massive CD

Re: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Susan Modlin
Amen to that. Some additional caveats: even if you do everything exactly as Jeremy suggests below, you're still at risk. And you would be wise not to count on either eBay or PayPal to provide much help. If you buy an academic version even though the vendor has said it's not, eBay seems to

Re: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:49:12 -0700 (PDT), Susan Modlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you attempt to block a credit card payment to PayPal, be prepared for unremitting and increasingly unpleasant letters and emails. Quite right. I did that, and was told I'd be banned if I ever did it again.

Re: Emphasis on characters within paragraphs

2008-05-15 Thread Huntley Eshenroder
Set all other attributes of the character style to As Is. This is easiest to do when the cursor is not in a text frame. -Huntley On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. I have a Character tag called Emphasis that does the obvious thing for words/letters in Body

RE: Emphasis on characters within paragraphs

2008-05-15 Thread Syed.Hosain
Set all other attributes of the character style to As Is. This is easiest to do when the cursor is not in a text frame. Hmmm ... yes, but that is already the situation that I have - all *other* attributes are already As Is. So, I don't understand your response per se! Can you elaborate,

RE: What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi everyone, While I understand the rationale of starting with a later version, I'd like to suggest that selecting a version of FM as a starter depends on what your goals are. If all you want to do is learn the basics, I'd suggest no earlier than FM6, as the GUI changed significantly from 5.5 to

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-15 Thread Hedley Finger
<> Linda and others: > Anyone else having trouble getting this update to install? > > I've tried multiple times, including from Acrobat after completely shutting > down my system and every time it says that it detects that FM is open and > cannot install. At least twice, FM was definitely not

Deeply weird font kerning issue

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:07 +0930 1/5/08, Daniel Frankham wrote: >We've experienced something similar (using Structured FrameMaker 7.0p578 >for Windows, and Acrobat 6) -- but only in text, not diagrams. We use >FrameMaker 7.2 and Acrobat 7 now, and we haven't experienced the problem >with those -- but then we

Learning curve for FrameMaker

2008-05-15 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 18:31 -0400 30/4/08, wrote: >One of the best books for FrameMaker that I have in my collection is: The >Masters Series: FrameMaker 6 by Thomas Neuburger. You can order this from >Amazon or http://www.twelfthnight.com/. Even though it does not cover 7 or 8 >you will get a LOT of use out of

Incorrect special characters

2008-05-15 Thread Baruch Brodersen
David, The shortcuts apply to the Symbol character set and not the Standard Windows character set. Changing your font or creating a symbol character format solve that part of your difficulties. Also, the keystroke sequence seems to be off slightly. Instead of Ctrl+q+3, you should type

Out of print FrameMaker books

2008-05-15 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I've also found http://isbn.nu/ to be a great resource. In this case, for instance, see http://isbn.nu/0735711089. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:34

Out of Frame Memory message and crash

2008-05-15 Thread mulholland4
Hi Everyone,I fixed it! thanks for all of the useful suggestions. I finally removed the new 8.03 (8.0p276) patcher using add/remove programs and guess.. what everything works once more! This is truly very odd as I thought that the new patch was supposed to cure a lot of things. Anyway, i'm happy

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Peter Courlis
Good Morning, I want to learn more about Framemaker, I have Ver. 5.5 and have fooled with that but need more experience... The prices of the latest version scare me, unless I had a contract or revenue input from writing... Recognizing that ver. 5.5 has basic functionality, what would be a next

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Since you already have FrameMaker 5.5, you can upgrade to version 8 for about $300. Unless you can get an earlier version for much less, this seems like the way to go. If you are going to settle for an earlier version, I wouldn't go lower than FrameMaker 7.2. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Alan Houser
If you learn with FrameMaker version 5.5 and migrate to FrameMaker 8, the concepts, commands, dialogs, and user interface will remain largely familiar for unstructured authoring. You will miss various bells and whistles that have been added, and will lack experience with structured authoring

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread mulholland4
Hi Peter, FrameMaker 5.5 did have some issues and yes what Rick says is really sound advice, don't go for anything less than version 7.2. Having said that, I used version 5.5 and version 6 for many years and survived! If you can't afford to upgrade at the moment, version 5.5 will allow you to

Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?

2008-05-15 Thread David Kuhn
When I first heard of TemplateMapper, I wondered if this could be used to help convert from Word to FrameMaker. Then I saw some postings on the list that confirmed that some people do use it for this. Now that I have TemplateMapper, I cannot figure out how it is helpful for this. If you Import a

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Fred Ridder
Responding to Peter C, mulholland4 wrote (in part):> And remember, when you do upgrade you can convert the> docs created in 5.5 to the upgrade version, however you can't go backwards. Not entirely true. If you save a document as MIF from any version of Frame, that MIF file can be opened from

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater

2008-05-15 Thread Art Campbell
If you have any other Adobe aps, run update from one of them -- it doesn't have to be run from Frame -- it'll grab whatever updates are available for all of your installed aps. Also, try running it just after bootup, before you open any other applications. And you may also want to toggle your

Locking the text frame

2008-05-15 Thread Sylvia Clarke
Does any one know how to lock the text frame on the master page? When working on the body pages, I frequently inadvertently move the text frame. Regards, Sylvia Clarke Sr. Technical Communicator sjclarke at hvc.rr.com

creating a paragraph element in a cell

2008-05-15 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi all! I've reached the edge of my knowledge. I'm using FM 8 in Windows Professional. I'm in a table, working within cells. Also, I am extremely new at FM, so think of me as a total newbie, not someone who is making educated choices. Here's what the table currently looks like: . SUPPORT

creating a paragraph element in a cell

2008-05-15 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi Sam and All: Problem fixed! I was changing the cell margin, which was changing the indent for all lines in the cell, rather than just the line I was working with. I set the cell margins back to 0.0 and changed the indent instead. Many thanks to Sarah O'Keefe who set me on the right path,

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Dov Isaacs
Please be careful wrt/ EBay software "purchases" - a large percentage of what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen goods. Pirated includes simply copying disks and giving you the serial number as well as massive CD duplication efforts. In some cases what is being "sold" is a copy of a

creating a paragraph element in a cell

2008-05-15 Thread Sam Beard
Deirdre, Glad you were able to figure it out! For some odd reason, I just wasn't able to fully picture what you were trying to say. Could be that I'm a tad tired after waking up early the past few nights and not being able to get back to sleep. Then again 8^P Samuel I. Beard, Jr.

Framemaker uses

2008-05-15 Thread Jon Harvey
I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:04:12 -0700, Dov Isaacs wrote: >Please be careful wrt/ EBay software "purchases" - a large percentage >of what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen goods. Pirated >includes simply copying disks and giving you the serial number as well >as massive CD duplication

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Susan Modlin
Amen to that. Some additional caveats: even if you do everything exactly as Jeremy suggests below, you're still at risk. And you would be wise not to count on either eBay or PayPal to provide much help. If you buy an academic version even though the vendor has said it's not, eBay seems to

Emphasis on characters within paragraphs

2008-05-15 Thread Huntley Eshenroder
Set all other attributes of the character style to As Is. This is easiest to do when the cursor is not in a text frame. -Huntley On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:44 PM, wrote: > Hi, all. > > I have a Character tag called "Emphasis" that does the obvious thing for > words/letters in "Body" paragraphs

Emphasis on characters within paragraphs

2008-05-15 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> Set all other attributes of the character style to As Is. This is > easiest to do when the cursor is not in a text frame. Hmmm ... yes, but that is already the situation that I have - all *other* attributes are already "As Is". So, I don't understand your response per se! Can you elaborate,

What version of Frame to Get Started ?

2008-05-15 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi everyone, While I understand the rationale of starting with a later version, I'd like to suggest that selecting a version of FM as a starter depends on what your goals are. If all you want to do is learn the basics, I'd suggest no earlier than FM6, as the GUI changed significantly from 5.5 to