RE: [fmforosx] RE: Dreaded Distiller barf... it was the font

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:11 +0100 4/3/09, philippe.mert...@oecd.org wrote:

Now more technically, to use a new font with the Distiller you need it to be 
found by Acrobat in its Font Watched Folder. Maybe you could solve your 
problem by just adding a copy (or a shortcut) of your original Monotype Fonts 
in that folder (Parameters Tab, Font Folder - or CTRL+L).

All the fonts are in the Classic fonts folder, and this is referenced in 
Distiller. Distiller is 'seeing' the font ok, it's just something about the 
font  that is causing it to crash.

Monotype tech support have accepted this and are looking into it. (Linotype is 
now owned by Monotype).

I appreciate that the same font is often available from different suppliers, 
and that this can sometimes cause problems, It certainly has caused me problems 
in the past, in my case with multiple but incompatible versions of Frutiger. 
However, in the case the font and foundry are specified by the publisher.

-- 
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Re: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[quills]

Avi,

Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The Save 
As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print the 
PS file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin distilling 
once the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the 
Distiller application.

Scott

Avraham Makeler wrote:
 Another piece of the puzzle:
 If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting before doing a
 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it seems more likely to.

 - avi


 

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Re: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[Avraham Makeler]

Thanks, Scott.
Ok, will do. In fact that's what I started doing once 'Save as PDF' stopped
working.
'Save as PDF' used to work just fine. What happened...?

- avi



On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM, qui...@airmail.net wrote:

 Avi,

 Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The Save As
 PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print the PS
 file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin distilling once
 the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the Distiller
 application.

 Scott


 Avraham Makeler wrote:

 Another piece of the puzzle:
 If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting before doing a
 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it seems more likely
 to.

 - avi






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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the AcrobatBookmarks pane

[Combs, Richard]

qui...@airmail.net wrote:
 
 Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The
Save
 As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print
the
 PS file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin
distilling
 once the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the
 Distiller application.

I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Save As PDF most definitely uses
Distiller. It's just that Adobe decided a while back (Acrobat 6, I
believe) to change the name of the Windows printer instance from Acrobat
Distiller to Adobe PDF. But it's still Distiller doing the, um,
distilling of the PS.

As for the problems people have with Save As PDF, most of them would
disappear if FM were always pointed to the Adobe PDF printer instead of
to whatever the system's default physical printer is. The SetPrint
plugin from Sundorne (www.sundorne.com) can take care of that. 

Richard


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Backing Up in Advance of TCS 2 Installation

[Pinkham, Jim]

I'm getting ready to install the TCS 2 trial that arrived (at last!) two
days ago, and I'm doing so with the awareness that's there's always the
possibility we may have to revert to our present configuration. With
that in mind, what files would you advise as essential to back up in
advance? Would you also, or instead, advise a f ull system backup first?
Any insights appreciated.
 
Thanks,
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Re: [fmforosx] RE: Dreaded Distiller barf - fixed, sort of

[Steve Rickaby]

It was a bad font... this from MonoType:

I had one of our type engineers review it and it appears that we had
updated this font back in 2006 but for whatever reason the data has not
been updated on the website? So not only has the font data been rebuilt,
it has been updated.

The original reason for the fix was to do with Adobe InDesign and how it
picks up the name to display the font. InDesign was not displaying the
font correctly and it could not print it. Based on that Distiller may
also have issues ripping the data due to the old naming method.

I have also forwarded the data onto my colleagues in the US to update
the website.

However, in the plethora of font cache cleaning and PRAM zapping that has been 
going on here today, Distiller has somehow caught my cold. Now, for any Ps file 
(*not* specific to Sabon), it crashes - which it has *never* done before - 
while saving the PDF after distillation. This problem definitely did not exist 
yesterday.

And, to make it even weirder, it only does this for some job options and not 
others. For example:

Standard: crashes

Smallest file size: crashes

Press: crashes

High quality: crashes

PDFX-1a: creates PDF ok

PDFX-3: creates PDF ok

Publisher's custom joboptions: creates PDF ok

Any theme here?

-- 
Steve
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Re: Backing Up in Advance of TCS 2 Installation

[Art Campbell]

As far as I know, the only applications in TCS2 that can't be
installed multiple times are RoboHelp and Acrobat. Frame's not a
problem; you can have multiples with different revs on a system.

So those you may want to back up or ghost. However, if they're
uninstalled, the associated registry entries are likely to be
wiped so that could create a problem if you need to roll back.

Otherwise, I believe all info is stored either in the data files or
user preferences, which should carry forward.

Art

P.S. You may also want to post in the TCS User's group:
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote:
 I'm getting ready to install the TCS 2 trial that arrived (at last!) two
 days ago, and I'm doing so with the awareness that's there's always the
 possibility we may have to revert to our present configuration. With
 that in mind, what files would you advise as essential to back up in
 advance? Would you also, or instead, advise a f ull system backup first?
 Any insights appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Joseph]

Hi all,

I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There’s a 600-page Word document that my
team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
between the two documents).

We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
any others?

•Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
•Use Mif2go
•Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.

-- 
Sincerely,

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Re: Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Karen L. Zorn]

Are you asking what is different between the Word doc and the Frame doc? 
Or, are you asking what is different between English and Japanese 
versions? I'm not sure what exactly your translators want to know.

Your Word and Frame docs should have the same content. It's the software 
tool and the file formats that are different. Experienced, reputable 
translation companies should know how to verify the translation.

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Joseph wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There's a 600-page Word document that my
 team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
 needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
 to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
 between the two documents).

 We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
 any others?

 .Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
 .Use Mif2go
 .Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.

   
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Re: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[quills]

Richard is correct in that Adobe changed the name of the printer 
instance, and you should always be using that as your default printer 
for FrameMaker. That might make Save As PDF function as you wish.

However, it is not the Distiller application. That application is the 
sure way of making all the functions behave correctly.

Scott

Avraham Makeler wrote:
 Thanks, Scott.
 Ok, will do. In fact that's what I started doing once 'Save as PDF' 
 stopped working.
 'Save as PDF' used to work just fine. What happened...?
  
 - avi


  
 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM, qui...@airmail.net 
 mailto:qui...@airmail.net wrote:

 Avi,

 Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that.
 The Save As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller
 open and print the PS file to a watched folder, then it will
 automatically begin distilling once the file is present.
 Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the Distiller application.

 Scott


 Avraham Makeler wrote:

 Another piece of the puzzle:
 If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting
 before doing a
 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it
 seems more likely to.

 - avi







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Re: Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Art Campbell]

Joseph,

I think the problem you're facing is separating the content changes
from the formatting.Because all the formatting has changed, I think
most of not all the book would be identified as changed even if the
content is unchanged.

So I'd think about exporting each of the drafts to text and trying to
compare those.

***
That said, the translation companies I've dealt with would do that
themselves as part of their workflow. You may be offering to, or they
may be trying to get you to do some of the work for them in order to
reduce costs  But if your process omits stuff by mistake or
includes too much, it's going to effect the end quality. So I'd be
very careful doing it yourself instead of having them do it.

Art

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Joseph panoptico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There’s a 600-page Word document that my
 team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
 needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
 to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
 between the two documents).

 We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
 any others?

 •    Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
 •    Use Mif2go
 •    Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.

 --
 Sincerely,

 Joseph Lorenzini
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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[Dov Isaacs]

WRONG! Regardless of the merits and foibles of the save as PDF facility in
various versions of FrameMaker, all in fact explicitly use the Distiller.
How do think the PostScript is turned into PDF otherwise? FrameMaker
(exceptionally unfortunately) unlike InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop
does NOT have the ability to directly export PDF using the Adobe PDF Library.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
 qui...@airmail.net
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:03 AM
 To: Avraham Makeler
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat 
 Bookmarks pane
 
 Avi,
 
 Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The Save
 As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print the
 PS file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin distilling
 once the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the
 Distiller application.
 
 Scott
 
 Avraham Makeler wrote:
  Another piece of the puzzle:
  If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting before doing a
  'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it seems more likely to.
 
  - avi
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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the AcrobatBookmarks pane

[Syed.Hosain]

Hi, Dov.

Please pardon my rant below ... not your personal fault at all! But,
Adobe does seriously need to fix PDF generation from FrameMaker, IMHO.

Dov wrote:
 FrameMaker (exceptionally unfortunately) unlike InDesign, Illustrator,
and Photoshop does NOT have the ability to directly export PDF using the
Adobe PDF Library.

[rant]
Is this still true for FrameMaker 9? (I have not checked this yet for
the trial version that I install a few days onto a Windows 7 system
here).

If still true, *when* should we expect it to happen? Frankly, the
inability to easily and reliably generate PDF from FrameMaker is
something that has been present far too long! And this issue needed to
be addressed *way* sooner than the fancy front-end that has been
released in FrameMaker 9. It is one of my pet peeves with FrameMaker
although I love the *program* otherwise (been using it - off and on -
since 1988 on a Sun 3/50)!

When I went back to using FrameMaker some years back, *every* time I
have done a FrameMaker version upgrade (from 6.0 to my current 8.0 -
every version!), I have had to reset the parameters and options I use
for the PDF generation process with Acrobat (also have all recent
versions). For the *same* set of books - and the settings are different
for each book! This last time, I had to turn Paragraph Tags on for one
large document for the process to work with FrameMaker 8 - the last
time, I had to turn it off for FM 7.2 for the very same document. To
avoid FrameMaker crashes or correctly generate the PDF output (without
missing tables or duplicated pages containing long tables)! I suspect
that I will have to do it again with FrameMaker 9 when I get there. :(

And, even now, with FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 9, when I generate a PDF
from one of my documents, it still annoys me that I have to open the PDF
output in Acrobat and set properties that I *should* be able to feed
into it from FrameMaker. Better integration of FrameMaker and Acrobat
and/or far more control of the PDF generation from FrameMaker would be a
real blessing! Since I do relatively frequent PDF generation (it is for
specifications that tend to change relatively often, and I send out
review copies in PDF format), this just adds delays and occasional
oops, forgot to set the property moments!
[/rant]


So ... the real QUESTION: when do you/Adobe expect the Adobe FrameMaker
software developers to learn how to use the Acrobat SDK, libraries,
etc., and do it right? Please feel free to pass the question on to
whoever is in charge of FrameMaker development!

Z
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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for theAcrobatBookmarks pane

[Matt Sullivan]

I think I may actually put this link into my email sig...
(found by a googling Adobe Wish List)
Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

I know Dov monitors this list, but if we each report these irritations to
Adobe they'll get more attention than they get on this and other lists.

-Matt

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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
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syed.hos...@aeris.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:18 AM
To: Dov Isaacs
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for
theAcrobatBookmarks pane

Hi, Dov.

Please pardon my rant below ... not your personal fault at all! But, Adobe
does seriously need to fix PDF generation from FrameMaker, IMHO.

Dov wrote:
 FrameMaker (exceptionally unfortunately) unlike InDesign, Illustrator,
and Photoshop does NOT have the ability to directly export PDF using the
Adobe PDF Library.

[rant]
Is this still true for FrameMaker 9? (I have not checked this yet for the
trial version that I install a few days onto a Windows 7 system here).

If still true, *when* should we expect it to happen? Frankly, the inability
to easily and reliably generate PDF from FrameMaker is something that has
been present far too long! And this issue needed to be addressed *way*
sooner than the fancy front-end that has been released in FrameMaker 9. It
is one of my pet peeves with FrameMaker although I love the *program*
otherwise (been using it - off and on - since 1988 on a Sun 3/50)!

When I went back to using FrameMaker some years back, *every* time I have
done a FrameMaker version upgrade (from 6.0 to my current 8.0 - every
version!), I have had to reset the parameters and options I use for the PDF
generation process with Acrobat (also have all recent versions). For the
*same* set of books - and the settings are different for each book! This
last time, I had to turn Paragraph Tags on for one large document for the
process to work with FrameMaker 8 - the last time, I had to turn it off for
FM 7.2 for the very same document. To avoid FrameMaker crashes or correctly
generate the PDF output (without missing tables or duplicated pages
containing long tables)! I suspect that I will have to do it again with
FrameMaker 9 when I get there. :(

And, even now, with FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 9, when I generate a PDF from
one of my documents, it still annoys me that I have to open the PDF output
in Acrobat and set properties that I *should* be able to feed into it from
FrameMaker. Better integration of FrameMaker and Acrobat and/or far more
control of the PDF generation from FrameMaker would be a real blessing!
Since I do relatively frequent PDF generation (it is for specifications that
tend to change relatively often, and I send out review copies in PDF
format), this just adds delays and occasional oops, forgot to set the
property moments!
[/rant]


So ... the real QUESTION: when do you/Adobe expect the Adobe FrameMaker
software developers to learn how to use the Acrobat SDK, libraries, etc.,
and do it right? Please feel free to pass the question on to whoever is in
charge of FrameMaker development!

Z
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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

[Syed.Hosain]

Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!

Z

Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
 I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
googling Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

[Matt Sullivan]

Always a slow process, but as a member of the last 2 beta teams, and
familiar with the engineers, I know that form submission is one of the
easiest ways to make sure an issue is considered. 


-Matt

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Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks
fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!

Z

Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
 I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
googling Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

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RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

[Syed.Hosain]

Okay! :)

BTW, my e-mail to the list bounced ... did yours do the same? I wonder
if this one will come through ...

Z


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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:32 PM
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Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks
fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

Always a slow process, but as a member of the last 2 beta teams, and
familiar with the engineers, I know that form submission is one of the
easiest ways to make sure an issue is considered. 


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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:44 PM
To: Matt Sullivan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks
fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!

Z

Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
 I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
googling Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

 I know Dov monitors this list, but if we each report these irritations
to Adobe they'll get more attention than they get on this and other
lists.

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searching for a section symbol

[Carol J. Elkins]

In a table cell with View-Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol. Thanks!

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RE: searching for a section symbol

[David Spreadbury]

Carol,
In the Find\Change dialog, enter ' \p', without the single quotes. That is
'space backslash lowercase p'. This will find all occurrences of a space
preceding an end of paragraph.

In the Find/Change dialog, enter ' \r', without the single quotes. That is
'space backslash lowercase r'. This will find all occurrences of a space
preceding a forced (Shift+Enter) forced return.

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: searching for a section symbol

In a table cell with View-Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol.
Thanks!

Carol

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RE: searching for a section symbol

[Alan Litchfield]

Carol,

As I understand it there is no dialog operator to find that. I guess that is
the case because it is 'outside' the text flow and therefore is not searched
as a 'text symbol'. Your best option is to search for end-of-paragraph
symbols.

If however you are seeking to navigate to the end of a flow of text, I think
there is a way to move the Insertion Point to the end of a flow (IPEndOfFlow)
but I can't think of it at the moment. It may be neccesary for you to define a
keyboard command for this action(?).

Information on Customizing FrameMaker's behaviour can be found here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf

(Sorry, you didn't say which version).

Alan


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 for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol,
 etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol.
 Thanks!

-- 
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FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[Avraham Makeler]

>
> Another piece of the puzzle:
> If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting before doing a
> 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it seems more likely to.
>
> - avi
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Richard.
>>
>> Yes, it is all set up.
>> And now it's gone wrong again. Not doing the bookmarks.
>>
>> - avi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Combs, Richard > > wrote:
>>
>>> Avraham Makeler wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > Something seems to have gone wrong with my FM 8 installation.
>>> >
>>> > FM 8 is no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat (v9)
>>> > Bookmarks pane.
>>>
>>> Well, let's start with the obvious. Do you have bookmark generation set
>>> up and enabled? Go to Format > Document > PDF Setup. On the Bookmarks
>>> tab, make sure that Generate PDF Bookmarks is checked and that the
>>> Include list contains the pgfs from which to create bookmarks.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard G. Combs
>>> Senior Technical Writer
>>> Polycom, Inc.
>>> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>>> 303-223-5111
>>> --
>>> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
>>> 303-777-0436
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Dreaded Distiller barf... it was the font

[Steve Rickaby]

Sincere thanks to everyone who's responded to this, and particularly Baruch and 
Philippe, who got there just ahead of me.

Eliminate one thing at a time... The only unusual thing about this file for me 
is that it uses a new - to this site - font, Sabon. I purchased Sabon MT from 
fonts.com as a PostScript Type 1 and installed it in Classic as normal.

Changing all the Sabon in the test file to Times causes the file to distill as 
expected. I tried this again with Officina Serif, and the same results. 

Sabon MT is a brand new font, so no possibility of corruption, surely?

I will take this up with Monotype support, but if anyone has an idea as to what 
might be happening I'd be glad to hear. I have never seen this problem caused 
by a font in, oh, er... eighteen years of using FrameMaker.

Philippe: I don't have the option of using another font, sadly - the designs 
are dictated by the publishers.

-- 
Steve

[fmforosx] RE: Dreaded Distiller barf... it was the font

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:11 +0100 4/3/09,  wrote:

>Now more technically, to use a new font with the Distiller you need it to be 
>found by Acrobat in its Font Watched Folder. Maybe you could solve your 
>problem by just adding a copy (or a shortcut) of your original Monotype Fonts 
>in that folder (Parameters Tab, Font Folder - or CTRL+L).

All the fonts are in the Classic fonts folder, and this is referenced in 
Distiller. Distiller is 'seeing' the font ok, it's just something about the 
font  that is causing it to crash.

Monotype tech support have accepted this and are looking into it. (Linotype is 
now owned by Monotype).

I appreciate that the same font is often available from different suppliers, 
and that this can sometimes cause problems, It certainly has caused me problems 
in the past, in my case with multiple but incompatible versions of Frutiger. 
However, in the case the font and foundry are specified by the publisher.

-- 
Steve

Importing FM content to Flare - Changing image import location

[David Schor]

Hi Jon,

I see that I can filter the view, so it makes it easier to select the
graphics in order to move them to the Images folder. However, the problem
remains that apparently, Flare by design, is importing the graphics together
with the HTM output files into the same directory (even its Help admits that
"it's messy" (LOL) so perhaps this is something that Madcap will fix in a
future release (I'm working in v4.2). I would like to be able to choose the
location for importing the graphics.

Thanks very much! All the best,
David
-- 
David Schor
Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
davids at afcon-inc.com
dsch.tw at gmail.com

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Jon Harvey wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> There is a filter at the top of the file list in Flare that enables you
> to list only the files in which you are interested. Enter *.htm into the
> text box and you should be fine.
>
>
> Jon Harvey
> Manager, Desktop Documentation
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
> Cambridge, MA 02140
> (617) 588-9354
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:22 AM
> To: techshoret at yahoogroups.com; framers
>  Subject: Importing FM content to Flare - Changing image import location
>
> Hey everyone, it was good to see some of you at the TCC last Thursday.
>
> I've just started working with Flare v4.2 and for my first project, I'm
> importing a FrameMaker v7.2 Book. The problem is that in addition to the
> FM
> files, it imports all graphics into the same folder in the Content
> Organizer. That's a bit messy for me, because I don't want to sift
> through a
> bunch of GIFs when looking to open a specific HTM file. I prefer to
> import
> the graphics into the Resources/Images folder.
> I can't find any option or switch or instruction in the Flare Help to
> enable
> me to do this.
> Does anyone know how to do this? For me, this is a black eye against
> Madcap
> if I have to clean this folder every time I update the content.
>
> TIA,
> David
>
> --
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> Technical Writer
> Afcon Software and Electronics
> Mobile:  054 478 8253
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FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[qui...@airmail.net]

Avi,

Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The Save 
As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print the 
PS file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin distilling 
once the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the 
Distiller application.

Scott

Avraham Makeler wrote:
>> Another piece of the puzzle:
>> If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting before doing a
>> 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it seems more likely to.
>>
>> - avi
>>
>>
>> 

FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[Avraham Makeler]

Thanks, Scott.
Ok, will do. In fact that's what I started doing once 'Save as PDF' stopped
working.
'Save as PDF' used to work just fine. What happened...?

- avi



On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM,  wrote:

> Avi,
>
> Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The Save As
> PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print the PS
> file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin distilling once
> the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the Distiller
> application.
>
> Scott
>
>
> Avraham Makeler wrote:
>
>> Another piece of the puzzle:
>>> If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting before doing a
>>> 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it seems more likely
>>> to.
>>>
>>> - avi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Importing FM content to Flare - Changing image import location

[Sharon Burton]

I work for MadCap

It's a good feature request. I'll send it on. Make sure you submit it too,
using the Feature request on the Start page in Flare.

You can move the graphics after the import. If you need help, send me an
email and I'll walk you thru it.


sharon

Sharon Burton
951-369-8590


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:16 AM
To: Jon Harvey
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Importing FM content to Flare - Changing image import
location


Hi Jon,

I see that I can filter the view, so it makes it easier to select the
graphics in order to move them to the Images folder. However, the problem
remains that apparently, Flare by design, is importing the graphics together
with the HTM output files into the same directory (even its Help admits that
"it's messy" (LOL) so perhaps this is something that Madcap will fix in a
future release (I'm working in v4.2). I would like to be able to choose the
location for importing the graphics.

Thanks very much! All the best,
David
--
David Schor
Technical Writer
Afcon Software and Electronics
Mobile:  054 478 8253
davids at afcon-inc.com
dsch.tw at gmail.com

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Jon Harvey
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> There is a filter at the top of the file list in Flare that enables you
> to list only the files in which you are interested. Enter *.htm into the
> text box and you should be fine.
>
>
> Jon Harvey
> Manager, Desktop Documentation
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
> Cambridge, MA 02140
> (617) 588-9354
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:22 AM
> To: techshoret at yahoogroups.com; framers
>  Subject: Importing FM content to Flare - Changing image import location
>
> Hey everyone, it was good to see some of you at the TCC last Thursday.
>
> I've just started working with Flare v4.2 and for my first project, I'm
> importing a FrameMaker v7.2 Book. The problem is that in addition to the
> FM
> files, it imports all graphics into the same folder in the Content
> Organizer. That's a bit messy for me, because I don't want to sift
> through a
> bunch of GIFs when looking to open a specific HTM file. I prefer to
> import
> the graphics into the Resources/Images folder.
> I can't find any option or switch or instruction in the Flare Help to
> enable
> me to do this.
> Does anyone know how to do this? For me, this is a black eye against
> Madcap
> if I have to clean this folder every time I update the content.
>
> TIA,
> David
>
> --
> David Schor
> Technical Writer
> Afcon Software and Electronics
> Mobile:  054 478 8253
> davids at afcon-inc.com
> dsch.tw at gmail.com
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FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the AcrobatBookmarks pane

[Combs, Richard]

quills at airmail.net wrote:

> Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that. The
Save
> As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller open and print
the
> PS file to a watched folder, then it will automatically begin
distilling
> once the file is present. Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the
> Distiller application.

I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Save As PDF most definitely uses
Distiller. It's just that Adobe decided a while back (Acrobat 6, I
believe) to change the name of the Windows printer instance from Acrobat
Distiller to Adobe PDF. But it's still Distiller doing the, um,
distilling of the PS.

As for the problems people have with Save As PDF, most of them would
disappear if FM were always pointed to the Adobe PDF printer instead of
to whatever the system's default physical printer is. The SetPrint
plugin from Sundorne (www.sundorne.com) can take care of that. 

Richard


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Backing Up in Advance of TCS 2 Installation

[Pinkham, Jim]

I'm getting ready to install the TCS 2 trial that arrived (at last!) two
days ago, and I'm doing so with the awareness that's there's always the
possibility we may have to revert to our present configuration. With
that in mind, what files would you advise as essential to back up in
advance? Would you also, or instead, advise a f ull system backup first?
Any insights appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim

[fmforosx] RE: Dreaded Distiller barf - fixed, sort of

[Steve Rickaby]

It was a bad font... this from MonoType:

>I had one of our type engineers review it and it appears that we had
>updated this font back in 2006 but for whatever reason the data has not
>been updated on the website? So not only has the font data been rebuilt,
>it has been updated.
>
>The original reason for the fix was to do with Adobe InDesign and how it
>picks up the name to display the font. InDesign was not displaying the
>font correctly and it could not print it. Based on that Distiller may
>also have issues ripping the data due to the old naming method.
>
>I have also forwarded the data onto my colleagues in the US to update
>the website.

However, in the plethora of font cache cleaning and PRAM zapping that has been 
going on here today, Distiller has somehow caught my cold. Now, for any Ps file 
(*not* specific to Sabon), it crashes - which it has *never* done before - 
while saving the PDF after distillation. This problem definitely did not exist 
yesterday.

And, to make it even weirder, it only does this for some job options and not 
others. For example:

Standard: crashes

Smallest file size: crashes

Press: crashes

High quality: crashes

PDFX-1a: creates PDF ok

PDFX-3: creates PDF ok

Publisher's custom joboptions: creates PDF ok

Any theme here?

-- 
Steve

Backing Up in Advance of TCS 2 Installation

[Art Campbell]

As far as I know, the only applications in TCS2 that can't be
installed multiple times are RoboHelp and Acrobat. Frame's not a
problem; you can have multiples with different revs on a system.

So those you may want to back up or ghost. However, if they're
uninstalled, the associated registry entries are likely to be
wiped so that could create a problem if you need to roll back.

Otherwise, I believe all info is stored either in the data files or
user preferences, which should carry forward.

Art

P.S. You may also want to post in the TCS User's group:
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en

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> possibility we may have to revert to our present configuration. With
> that in mind, what files would you advise as essential to back up in
> advance? Would you also, or instead, advise a f ull system backup first?
> Any insights appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
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Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Joseph]

Hi all,

I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There?s a 600-page Word document that my
team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
between the two documents).

We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
any others?

?Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
?Use Mif2go
?Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini

Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Karen L. Zorn]

Are you asking what is different between the Word doc and the Frame doc? 
Or, are you asking what is different between English and Japanese 
versions? I'm not sure what exactly your translators want to know.

Your Word and Frame docs should have the same content. It's the software 
tool and the file formats that are different. Experienced, reputable 
translation companies should know how to verify the translation.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

Sunny 75*

Joseph wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There's a 600-page Word document that my
> team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
> needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
> to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
> between the two documents).
>
> We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
> any others?
>
> .Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
> .Use Mif2go
> .Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.
>
>   

FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the Acrobat Bookmarks pane

[qui...@airmail.net]

Richard is correct in that Adobe changed the name of the printer 
instance, and you should always be using that as your default printer 
for FrameMaker. That might make Save As PDF function as you wish.

However, it is not the Distiller application. That application is the 
sure way of making all the functions behave correctly.

Scott

Avraham Makeler wrote:
> Thanks, Scott.
> Ok, will do. In fact that's what I started doing once 'Save as PDF' 
> stopped working.
> 'Save as PDF' used to work just fine. What happened...?
>  
> - avi
>
>
>  
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM,  > wrote:
>
> Avi,
>
> Don't use the Save as PDF. Print to a PS file and distill that.
> The Save As PDF function is problematic. If you have Distiller
> open and print the PS file to a watched folder, then it will
> automatically begin distilling once the file is present.
> Additionally, Save As PDF doesn't use the Distiller application.
>
> Scott
>
>
> Avraham Makeler wrote:
>
> Another piece of the puzzle:
> If I have the Acrobat Distiller already open and waiting
> before doing a
> 'Save As PDF', it makes the bookmarks, or at least it
> seems more likely to.
>
> - avi
>
>
>
>
>
>

Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Art Campbell]

Joseph,

I think the problem you're facing is separating the content changes
from the formatting.Because all the formatting has changed, I think
most of not all the book would be identified as "changed" even if the
content is unchanged.

So I'd think about exporting each of the drafts to text and trying to
compare those.

***
That said, the translation companies I've dealt with would do that
themselves as part of their workflow. You may be offering to, or they
may be trying to get you to do some of the work for them in order to
reduce costs  But if your process omits stuff by mistake or
includes too much, it's going to effect the end quality. So I'd be
very careful doing it yourself instead of having them do it.

Art

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Joseph  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There?s a 600-page Word document that my
> team converted into a FrameMaker book. ?This document is in English, it
> needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
> to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
> between the two documents).
>
> We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
> any others?
>
> ? ? ?Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
> ? ? ?Use Mif2go
> ? ? ?Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Joseph Lorenzini
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FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for the AcrobatBookmarks pane

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Hi, Dov.

Please pardon my rant below ... not your personal fault at all! But,
Adobe does seriously need to fix PDF generation from FrameMaker, IMHO.

Dov wrote:
> FrameMaker (exceptionally unfortunately) unlike InDesign, Illustrator,
and Photoshop does NOT have the ability to directly export PDF using the
Adobe PDF Library.

[rant]
Is this still true for FrameMaker 9? (I have not checked this yet for
the trial version that I install a few days onto a Windows 7 system
here).

If still true, *when* should we expect it to happen? Frankly, the
inability to easily and reliably generate PDF from FrameMaker is
something that has been present far too long! And this issue needed to
be addressed *way* sooner than the fancy front-end that has been
released in FrameMaker 9. It is one of my pet peeves with FrameMaker
although I love the *program* otherwise (been using it - off and on -
since 1988 on a Sun 3/50)!

When I went back to using FrameMaker some years back, *every* time I
have done a FrameMaker version upgrade (from 6.0 to my current 8.0 -
every version!), I have had to reset the parameters and options I use
for the PDF generation process with Acrobat (also have all recent
versions). For the *same* set of books - and the settings are different
for each book! This last time, I had to turn Paragraph Tags on for one
large document for the process to work with FrameMaker 8 - the last
time, I had to turn it off for FM 7.2 for the very same document. To
avoid FrameMaker crashes or correctly generate the PDF output (without
missing tables or duplicated pages containing long tables)! I suspect
that I will have to do it again with FrameMaker 9 when I get there. :(

And, even now, with FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 9, when I generate a PDF
from one of my documents, it still annoys me that I have to open the PDF
output in Acrobat and set properties that I *should* be able to feed
into it from FrameMaker. Better integration of FrameMaker and Acrobat
and/or far more control of the PDF generation from FrameMaker would be a
real blessing! Since I do relatively frequent PDF generation (it is for
specifications that tend to change relatively often, and I send out
review copies in PDF format), this just adds delays and occasional
"oops, forgot to set the property" moments!
[/rant]


So ... the real QUESTION: when do you/Adobe expect the Adobe FrameMaker
software developers to learn how to use the Acrobat SDK, libraries,
etc., and "do it right"? Please feel free to pass the question on to
whoever is in charge of FrameMaker development!

Z

FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for theAcrobatBookmarks pane

[Matt Sullivan]

I think I may actually put this link into my email sig...
(found by a "googling" Adobe Wish List)
Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

I know Dov monitors this list, but if we each report these irritations to
Adobe they'll get more attention than they get on this and other lists.

-Matt

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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:18 AM
To: Dov Isaacs
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks for
theAcrobatBookmarks pane

Hi, Dov.

Please pardon my rant below ... not your personal fault at all! But, Adobe
does seriously need to fix PDF generation from FrameMaker, IMHO.

Dov wrote:
> FrameMaker (exceptionally unfortunately) unlike InDesign, Illustrator,
and Photoshop does NOT have the ability to directly export PDF using the
Adobe PDF Library.

[rant]
Is this still true for FrameMaker 9? (I have not checked this yet for the
trial version that I install a few days onto a Windows 7 system here).

If still true, *when* should we expect it to happen? Frankly, the inability
to easily and reliably generate PDF from FrameMaker is something that has
been present far too long! And this issue needed to be addressed *way*
sooner than the fancy front-end that has been released in FrameMaker 9. It
is one of my pet peeves with FrameMaker although I love the *program*
otherwise (been using it - off and on - since 1988 on a Sun 3/50)!

When I went back to using FrameMaker some years back, *every* time I have
done a FrameMaker version upgrade (from 6.0 to my current 8.0 - every
version!), I have had to reset the parameters and options I use for the PDF
generation process with Acrobat (also have all recent versions). For the
*same* set of books - and the settings are different for each book! This
last time, I had to turn Paragraph Tags on for one large document for the
process to work with FrameMaker 8 - the last time, I had to turn it off for
FM 7.2 for the very same document. To avoid FrameMaker crashes or correctly
generate the PDF output (without missing tables or duplicated pages
containing long tables)! I suspect that I will have to do it again with
FrameMaker 9 when I get there. :(

And, even now, with FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 9, when I generate a PDF from
one of my documents, it still annoys me that I have to open the PDF output
in Acrobat and set properties that I *should* be able to feed into it from
FrameMaker. Better integration of FrameMaker and Acrobat and/or far more
control of the PDF generation from FrameMaker would be a real blessing!
Since I do relatively frequent PDF generation (it is for specifications that
tend to change relatively often, and I send out review copies in PDF
format), this just adds delays and occasional "oops, forgot to set the
property" moments!
[/rant]


So ... the real QUESTION: when do you/Adobe expect the Adobe FrameMaker
software developers to learn how to use the Acrobat SDK, libraries, etc.,
and "do it right"? Please feel free to pass the question on to whoever is in
charge of FrameMaker development!

Z
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FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!

Z

Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
> I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
"googling" Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

> I know Dov monitors this list, but if we each report these irritations
to Adobe they'll get more attention than they get on this and other
lists.

FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

[Matt Sullivan]

Always a slow process, but as a member of the last 2 beta teams, and
familiar with the engineers, I know that form submission is one of the
easiest ways to make sure an issue is considered. 


-Matt

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-Original Message-
From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:44 PM
To: Matt Sullivan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks
fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!

Z

Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
> I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
"googling" Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

> I know Dov monitors this list, but if we each report these irritations
to Adobe they'll get more attention than they get on this and other lists.

FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Okay! :)

BTW, my e-mail to the list bounced ... did yours do the same? I wonder
if this one will come through ...

Z


-Original Message-
From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks
fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

Always a slow process, but as a member of the last 2 beta teams, and
familiar with the engineers, I know that form submission is one of the
easiest ways to make sure an issue is considered. 


-Matt

Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training

matt at roundpeg.com
www.roundpeg.com
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-Original Message-
From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:44 PM
To: Matt Sullivan; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 8 no longer generating PDFs with bookmarks
fortheAcrobatBookmarks pane

Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!

Z

Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
> I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
"googling" Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

> I know Dov monitors this list, but if we each report these irritations
to Adobe they'll get more attention than they get on this and other
lists.

searching for a section symbol

[Carol J. Elkins]

In a table cell with View->Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol. Thanks!

Carol

searching for a section symbol

[David Spreadbury]

Carol,
In the Find\Change dialog, enter ' \p', without the single quotes. That is
'space backslash lowercase p'. This will find all occurrences of a space
preceding an end of paragraph.

In the Find/Change dialog, enter ' \r', without the single quotes. That is
'space backslash lowercase r'. This will find all occurrences of a space
preceding a forced (Shift+Enter) forced return.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:39 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: searching for a section symbol

In a table cell with View->Text Symbols turned on, how do I search 
for a blank space following the last alpha-numeric character and 
preceding the section symbol? I know the keyboard strokes to search 
for the tab symbol, forced return symbol, end-of-paragraph symbol, 
etc., but none of my quick-reference guides define the section symbol.
Thanks!

Carol

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FrameMaker to CHM

[Jennifer Randel]

Hi all,
I've just been assigned the task of creating CHM files, which I've never done. 
I'm currently working in FM 7.2 on a WinXP box.

Is there an application that I can plug into Frame to generate CHM files or 
will I have to recreate my docs in another application to produce CHM's?

Thanks in advance,

Jennifer Randel
Data Processing Technical Writer
Kern High School District