Disappearing commenting function

2009-09-29 Thread David Kuhn
Although this problem is not on the FrameMaker side of things, I'm sure it is 
common for Frame users to send out docs as PDFs for review.
A major problem with the Commenting function has appeared in Adobe Reader.
It seems like it MIGHT be related to some Adobe updates that were just pushed 
through by our company.
I enabled a PDF for commenting and sent it out for email review.
The receivers see in the document properties that it is enabled for commenting, 
but they cannot access the commenting toolbar.
This happened both with Reader 8 and 9.
I could not find the toolbar either.  There was nothing under the View  
Toolbars menu or the Tools menu that would activate it.
We have been using this function for a long time and depend on it, but it has 
suddenly disappeared.

A strange fact is that when one user upgraded from Reader 8 to 9, it solved the 
problem for them, even though someone else with Reader 9 still had the problem.
Help!


David Kuhn
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Run-in head and All Properties option

2009-09-29 Thread suhas . murthy
Hi,

Can anyone help me out with the following: -

1) What is the use of the All Properties option in Global Update options?
2) What are Run-in Heads and How to use the Run--in Head punctuation 
option in the paragraph designer?


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RE: Run-in head and All Properties option

2009-09-29 Thread Kelly McDaniel


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suhas.mur...@tcs.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:42 AM
To: Combs, Richard
Cc: Alison Craig; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Run-in head and All Properties option

Hi,

Can anyone help me out with the following: -

1) What is the use of the All Properties option in Global Update
options?

Manage paragraph and character formats
Update formats
You can change format properties and then use them to redefine, or
update, the stored formats and all the text in the document tagged with
them.
When you update a format, you can update all properties or just one
group of properties. For example, you can change the default font family
for all formats in a document without changing any other properties.

2) What are Run-in Heads and How to use the Run--in Head punctuation 
option in the paragraph designer?

Create run-in heads
Run-in heads are separate paragraphs on the same line as normal body
text. They have the same margins as normal body text, and typically have
a different font or weight for contrast. You can use a punctuation mark
to set them off from the text that follows.
The space between the run-in head and the preceding paragraph is
determined by the Space Below setting of the previous paragraph or the
Space Above setting of the run-in head, whichever is greater.
1
Click in the paragraph to change. If the paragraph is already a run-in
head, it is on the same line as the paragraph following it.
2
Select Format  Paragraphs  Designer and click the Pagination tab.
3
Select Run-In Head -- Default Punctuation. If necessary, enter the
punctuation, space, or combination of the two that you want to use.
Note: To override punctuation later, type the new punctuation in the
run-in head. FrameMaker ignores the punctuation specified in the Default
Punctuation box but retains any special characters that are part of the
default, including em and en spaces.
4
Click Apply To Selection.
5
Display the Default Font properties and change the run-in head's font so
that it stands out from the surrounding text, if you want.
6
Click Apply To Selection.


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Reviews of FM 9.0?

2009-09-29 Thread Frank Oberc
Anyone aware of any good reviews of FM 9.0? 

 

Frank Oberc | Tech Writer | WorkForce Software | 

WorkForce Software - Mitigating Complexity - Ensuring Compliance -
Enabling Strategic HR

 

 

 
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Re: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text

2009-09-29 Thread theboggette
I think there may be others besides me who'd be interested in hearing the 
responses.  Maybe?

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Stamm, David-P45904 dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:


From: Stamm, David-P45904 dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Subject: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text
To: FrameMaker user's list posting framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 9:19 AM


Posting a fourth time:  earlier postings did not get through

Adobe® FrameMaker® 8.0p277 (2008-05-23-07) structured

US Army DTD as provided by Writer / Editor, US Army major command.

We are shifting from FrameMaker unstructured into structured.  Our first 
project is to conform to the DTD.  We have _lots_ of passages encoded with 
conditional text, and I hoping there's a wise, reasonably-easy way to sort this 
out.

If you have experience with adapting to the DTD - especially in transition from 
unstructured documents, please contact me off-line.

¡Thanks! in advance for your help and
Regards,

Dave Stamm
Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Battle Management Systems Division
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200       We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552
US
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RE: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available

2009-09-29 Thread Tammy Van Boening
My TCS2 / FM9 installation did not catch the patch either.  Had to download
from the link that RJ sent for FM 9.0.

TVB

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:29 AM
To: RJ Jacquez; generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available

Nadine,

My TCS2 / FM9 installation did not catch the patch either.  My TCS1
installation on another system does get patch notifications but the
installer says that the patches won't install on the version of FM I have
installed.  Mr. Jacquez was kind enough to send me links (offline) to all
the downloadable patches and I am going to try it that way.

Framers, have any of you seen this problem (where the patch is not the
correct one for version of FM you have installed)?

Diane



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Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:25 AM
To: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available


Hi Nadine, not sure why your update isn't catching the patch, but here are
two links to help you out:

* You can manually download and install the update from this page:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4587
* You can view the Readme PDF file for this patch using this link:
http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/framemaker/win/9.x/ReadmeForPatch903.pdf

Sincerely,

RJ Jácquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Suite
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez
Twitter: @rjacquez


-Original Message-
From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:19 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; RJ Jacquez
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available

Hmmm...my FM9 didn't detect any available updates. Where can we access the
mentioned PDF?

Thanks,

Nadine

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, RJ Jacquez rjacq...@adobe.com wrote:

 From: RJ Jacquez rjacq...@adobe.com
 Subject: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Monday, September 28, 2009, 8:38 AM
 Hi All,

 Just tweeted this: http://twitter.com/rjacquez/status/4362706227

 [Adobe #FrameMakerhttp://twitter.com/search?q=%23FrameMaker News]
 Patch (9.0p250) is now available. Select Help  Updates
 to download. See ReadmeForPatch903.pdf for what's new.

 Sincerely,

 RJ Jácquez
 Senior Product Evangelist
 Adobe Technical Communication Suite
 Adobe eLearning Suite
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Re: FM9 - Table Placement

2009-09-29 Thread Gary Bankston
I've also had problems like you mention which I have discovered were the
result of the paratag the table was attached to, and whether it was run in
or under.

gb

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srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:

 Alison Craig wrote:
  Version: FM9 OS: XP Pro with SP3
 
  I am having difficulty with Table Placement.
 
  Sometimes the tables cooperate nicely and break between rows across a
  page in the manner I expect. Other times, they insist on starting
  on a new page regardless of the fact that there is plenty of room for
  some/most of the table on the previous page. In this latter case, I
  even have examples where they fill the page they begin on then
  continue to the next page for the final one or two rows.
 
  The tables are all set up as follows:
 
  Align = Left Start = Anywhere Title = No Title
 
  This last is slightly inaccurate as I do give all tables a Title
  through a Paragraph Style with an Autonumber Format. This is placed
  before the table and is assigned to:
 
  Start = Anywhere Keep With = Next Pgf
 
 
  I'm sure - or at least I'm hoping - there is some simple setting
  somewhere that will allow me to have the table break between rows as
  space allows (I'd prefer not to have it break across rows unless I
  choose to use that option as an exception).
 
  Any suggestions?
 

 Check the Orphan Rows setting?  A high number could cause this behaviour.


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RE: Using Subversion with Frame Files

2009-09-29 Thread Lea Galanter
Our software development department currently uses Subversion, and I
create documentation using Frame. To me, Subversion is a version control
system, and it ignores file types. So it's irrelevant if I'm saving
.book or .fm files to a folder or directory in Subversion. I do maintain
a separate documentation directory for files associated with each
document, except for files that need to stay with the developers' files.

Subversion was a bit of a bear to learn -- it has some weird
idiosyncrasies that I haven't seen in other versioning systems, but I
also have a lot more control of creating directories and folder
structures.

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Re: FW: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text: SUMMARY

2009-09-29 Thread quills
So does the DTD include anything for conditional text? An attribute 
setting that can be used?

Scott

Stamm, David-P45904 wrote:
 2009-09-29-02T12:25Z
 
 Thanks to all who responded, naming (only the first five in order of 
 receipt):  Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Nadine Murray, 
 theboggette, et al.
 
 To help clarify:
   1.  We were provided the document type definition by a US Army major 
 command, and (until permitted otherwise), we're not allowed to change it.  
 Therefore, our .edd is similarly fixed.
   2.  We are not using Darwin Information Typing Architecture.
   3.  In FrameMaker (unstructured), we encoded only whole paragraphs with 
 conditional text.  It seems as though we need to continue doing that in 
 structured - including the opening and closing tags for those paragraphs.
   4.  For those who read my posting as a possible solicitation for 
 employment, sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that and wish all of you well in 
 whatever your journeys hold next.
 
 Art Campbell, thanks for the tips about Free Framers list at omsys.com, the 
 Yahoo Structured FM group, and the structured and unstructured FrameMaker 
 forums at adobe.com.  I might try Free Framers.  As for Yahoo, I don't think 
 I can get there from here because of information security restrictions.  My 
 postings to the forum at adobe dot com did not get through, either.
 
 Fei Min Lorente, I might check in with you.
 
 ¡Thanks! and regards to all,
 
 Dave Stamm
 Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
 General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
 Battle Management Systems Division
 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200   We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
 Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552
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 Sent: 2009-September-28-Monday 09:19
 To: FrameMaker user's list posting
 Subject: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text
 
 Posting a fourth time:  earlier postings did not get through
 
 Adobe® FrameMaker® 8.0p277 (2008-05-23-07) structured
 
 US Army DTD as provided by Writer / Editor, US Army major command.
 
 We are shifting from FrameMaker unstructured into structured.  Our first 
 project is to conform to the DTD.  We have _lots_ of passages encoded with 
 conditional text, and I hoping there's a wise, reasonably-easy way to sort 
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 If you have experience with adapting to the DTD - especially in transition 
 from unstructured documents, please contact me off-line.
 
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Re: Using Distiller 9 with Frame 9.0

2009-09-29 Thread Scott White
I found all the updates I could for Frame and Acrobat and still the  
Distiller 9 will not open. I have one other client that is having this  
same issue.


Any suggestions would be helpful.

Windows XP Pro, Frame 9.0 with all available updates



Scott White
Media Production  EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
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On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Art Campbell wrote:


Have you rebooted?
Also, there have been several updates, not just one, to FM and to  
Acrobat...


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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Scott White swh...@alamark.com  
wrote:

I just installed Framemaker 9.0 and did the update. Also installed
the PDF creator. However, I can not get Adobe Acrobat 9 Distiller to
open. I hit the executable but it just blinks at me and sits there.
I do have Acrobate Reader 9.0 installed.

Am I missing something? Thanks for the help.

Windows XP Pro running parallels on Mac OS10.5.




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Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, everyone.

My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. (Engineers feel a need 
to write an entire encyclopedia entry in each caption, and I haven't been able 
to dissuade them.)

I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that is broken like 
this:


Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
 Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage 
(Parallel R/C Network)

It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align correctly if your 
email is set to Plain Text):

Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. . . . . . . . . . . 1-8

Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
   Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage 
   (Parallel R/C Network)1-9

I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 above use the same 
reference page entry. No other tab interferes with the proper placement of the 
page number. So why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?

Is this such an old problem that I've forgotten the solution? I know I've 
encountered it before -- but I also know that other figure titles with soft 
returns in them have worked just fine. I don't know what's wrong with this one.

Thanks for your help.

--Nancy
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Re: Using Distiller 9 with Frame 9.0

2009-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
Just to clarify here, you're talking about the limited Distiller
instance that's coat-tailed on to the Frame install, correct? Not the
Distiller that's part of the full Acrobat install.

Does the Acrobat printer instance show up in your Printers and Fax folder?
Can you set it as your system default printer?
And finally, can you print to it from Frame?

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 Distiller 9 will not open. I have one other client that is having this same
 issue.

 Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Re: Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
Add a few (three if it's always three lines) tab stops on the TOC
Reference Page between paratext and pagenum.

Or if it's just that one caption, you can probably add a tab stop at
the end of the caption; that may be picked up and solve it too.


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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi, everyone.

 My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. (Engineers feel a 
 need to write an entire encyclopedia entry in each caption, and I haven't 
 been able to dissuade them.)

 I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that is broken like 
 this:


 Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
  Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage
 (Parallel R/C Network)

 It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align correctly if your 
 email is set to Plain Text):

 Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-8

 Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
                   Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage
                   (Parallel R/C Network)1-9

 I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 above use the 
 same reference page entry. No other tab interferes with the proper placement 
 of the page number. So why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?

 Is this such an old problem that I've forgotten the solution? I know I've 
 encountered it before -- but I also know that other figure titles with soft 
 returns in them have worked just fine. I don't know what's wrong with this 
 one.

 Thanks for your help.

 --Nancy
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RE: Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Combs, Richard
Nancy Allison wrote:
 
 My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. (Engineers
feel a
 need to write an entire encyclopedia entry in each caption, and I
haven't
 been able to dissuade them.)
 
 I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that is
broken
 like this:
 
 
 Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
  Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage
 (Parallel R/C Network)
 
 It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align correctly
if
 your email is set to Plain Text):
 
 Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . .
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-8
 
 Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing
the
Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test
 Voltage
(Parallel R/C Network)1-9
 
 I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 above use
the
 same reference page entry. No other tab interferes with the proper
 placement of the page number. So why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?


In the ref page entry, put multiple tab characters between $paratext
and $chapnum -- at least one for each line in your longest caption.
Each time a line of text in the pgf moves past that tab position, it
burns one of the tab characters. So you've run out, as it were. :-) 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Re: Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Nancy Allison
Beayootiful! (Adding the tabs back into the reference page worked. Adding them 
to the end of the captions did not.)

You are my heroes! Thanks!


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RE: Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Nancy,

Yes. As others already said, add more tabs between
$paratext and $chapnum.

However, you do not need 1 per line.

You have to add as many tabs so that there will be at
least the same number of tabs in the last line as in
regular first lines.

Examples:

Figure 1.6:xtab1-8
Here you have a single tab. When you add a soft return
you still have your single tab before the page number.
You do not need additional tabs:
Figure 1.6:
xxxtab1-8

Figure 1.6:tabxtab1-8
Here you have two tabs. When you add a soft return you
have only a single tab before the page number in the
second line. The first one between the figure number
and the figure title is missing:
Figure 1.6:tab
xxxtab1-8

With an additional tab it works:
Figure 1.6:tab
xxxtabtab1-8

This is the same if you would have 3 lines. Still you
need only 2 tabs in the last line:
Figure 1.6:tab
xx
xxxtabtab1-8

I guess you can calculate how many tabs you need, if you
would have an additional tab between Figure and the
figure number.

Therefore you have to do this:
o Make sure that the indentation of the second line matches
  the first tab.
o Add a single tab between $paratext and $chapnum.
  But more do not harm.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Nancy Allison
 Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:01 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work
 
 Hi, everyone.
 
 My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. 
 (Engineers feel a need to write an entire encyclopedia entry 
 in each caption, and I haven't been able to dissuade them.)
 
 I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that 
 is broken like this:
 
 
 Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
  Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage 
 (Parallel R/C Network)
 
 It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align 
 correctly if your email is set to Plain Text):
 
 Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-8
 
 Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, 
 Showing the
Various Parameters of Current as a 
 Function of Test Voltage 
(Parallel R/C Network)1-9
 
 I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 
 above use the same reference page entry. No other tab 
 interferes with the proper placement of the page number. So 
 why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?
 
 Is this such an old problem that I've forgotten the solution? 
 I know I've encountered it before -- but I also know that 
 other figure titles with soft returns in them have worked 
 just fine. I don't know what's wrong with this one.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 --Nancy
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9.0.2 Upgrade problem

2009-09-29 Thread rinch
Win XP on a Dell workstation. FM9 (TCS2, actually).

Since my FM9 Updater does not work, I'm trying to download the patches 
from Adobe.com. I've been trying off/on for the past few days.

9.0.1 downloaded and installed fine (9.0p230). 

9.0.2 downloaded a corrupt 10.8 MB (should be 21.6 MB) file. It does 
nothing when I click on it. 

9.0.3 downloaded fine, but won't install because my version of FM is 
incorrect (I'm assuming because 9.0.2 is not installed).

Has anyone else had a problem downloading the FM 9.0.2 patch from 
Adobe.com?

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Re: [framescript-users] OT: Backup software

2009-09-29 Thread Mike H
I have used Drivesnapshot (http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/index.htm)
without a hitch for three years on XP and Vista. Very lean; if
preferred, no installation is required, it'll just run off the command
line. And it runs a complete verify on the backup, unlike most other
programs. On any version of Windows (at least 2K to Vista), you can
bind it into Bart PE, then you restore by booting of your Bart PE CD.

Cheers,
Mike


Having just survived a hard drive meltdown, with the loss of some data, I am
looking for recommendations for backup software. I normally back up my data,
but it is still a pain to reinstall all of my programs and set things up
after a disaster. Is there a way to make a disk image that can be used so
that the OS, applications, etc. can be restored? ...



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PDF Creator Issues with Frame9

2009-09-29 Thread Scott White
Since I have upgraded our MACs running parallels from Frame 7.2 to 9.0  
we have been encountering some issues in relation to colors and PDF  
creation.
When I use the save as pdf option with a file that is using a color in  
the table column info, a square box appears around that particular  
column heading. When I print to postscript and open the file in  
distiller 6.0 there are no problems everything looks as it should.
I can't get Distiller 9.0 to open itself on the machine, so I'm taking  
the postscript file to an older pc I have and distilling it.


Anyone else run into this? I have other customers experiencing this  
same behavior and other color issues.

Windows XP Pro and Vista via Parallels/Frame 9.0/All updates installed.



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Implementation Coordinator
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Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-29 Thread Alan Litchfield

Jim Duszynski wrote:


 Another way to ask the question is, does anyone have any experience with FM
 7.2 and compatibility with computer system utilities as time goes by?


Yes.

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SV: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available

2009-09-29 Thread Alan Litchfield

Jacob Sch?ffer wrote:
>
> Today, where almost everyone has broadband Internet connections and is able
> to download huge data amounts,

Because almost everyone *does not* have broadband internet connection. The
outside Northern Europe, North America, and parts of Asia is very different.

Alan

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SV: FrameMaker Patch (9.0p250) is now available

2009-09-29 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Alan Litchfield wrote:
< Because almost everyone *does not* have broadband internet connection. The
Outside Northern Europe, North America, and parts of Asia is very different.
>

Perhaps I pulled the trigger too fast here. You are right, of course:
everyone in this world *does not* have broadband internet connections!

Anyway, for those of us who actually HAVE fast connections -- a group I
believe is considerably larger than you estimate and to my experience
include the vast majority of Framemaker users, incl. users in the major
cities in the DBCS world far east -- I find it highly relevant to have
cumulative updates handy.

Small-file-size "patchers" that alter only the "current" installation are
still relevant, of course. But why shouldn't they be cumulative in
proportion to the base version? Why do they require specific sub-versions?
Because the software used to generate such patcher-beasts require so, hence
understandable to some degree.

But that's not an argument at all. If you want to make life easy for the
Framemaker users, "full" install packages should be made available for each
revision-release.

End of story!

Anything else is bad service and delegates a completely unnecessary
install-burden to users that lives happily with older Framemaker versions,
which often have been patched 3-5 times though their official and supported
life-cycle.

Why doesn't Adobe offer cumulative packages at all for Framemaker, or at
least cumulative Service Packs, so those of us (not me, but you outside
Northern Europe and North America) that actually still use narrow internet
connections have a chance to get off lightly though a re-install process
WITHOUT downloading each patch separately?

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
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Disappearing commenting function

2009-09-29 Thread David Kuhn
Although this problem is not on the FrameMaker side of things, I'm sure it is 
common for Frame users to send out docs as PDFs for review.
A major problem with the Commenting function has appeared in Adobe Reader.
It seems like it MIGHT be related to some Adobe updates that were just pushed 
through by our company.
I enabled a PDF for commenting and sent it out for email review.
The receivers see in the document properties that it is enabled for commenting, 
but they cannot access the commenting toolbar.
This happened both with Reader 8 and 9.
I could not find the toolbar either.  There was nothing under the View > 
Toolbars menu or the Tools menu that would activate it.
We have been using this function for a long time and depend on it, but it has 
suddenly disappeared.

A strange fact is that when one user upgraded from Reader 8 to 9, it solved the 
problem for them, even though someone else with Reader 9 still had the problem.
Help!


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FW: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text: SUMMARY

2009-09-29 Thread Stamm, David-P45904
2009-09-29-02T12:25Z

Thanks to all who responded, naming (only the first five in order of receipt):  
Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Nadine Murray, "theboggette," 
et al.

To help clarify:
  1.  We were provided the document type definition by a US Army major command, 
and (until permitted otherwise), we're not allowed to change it.  Therefore, 
our .edd is similarly fixed.
  2.  We are not using Darwin Information Typing Architecture.
  3.  In FrameMaker (unstructured), we encoded only whole paragraphs with 
conditional text.  It seems as though we need to continue doing that in 
structured - including the opening and closing tags for those paragraphs.
  4.  For those who read my posting as a possible solicitation for employment, 
sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that and wish all of you well in whatever your 
journeys hold next.

Art Campbell, thanks for the tips about Free Framers list at omsys.com, the 
Yahoo Structured FM group, and the structured and unstructured FrameMaker 
forums at adobe.com.  I might try Free Framers.  As for Yahoo, I don't think I 
can "get there from here" because of information security restrictions.  My 
postings to the forum at adobe dot com did not get through, either.

Fei Min Lorente, I might check in with you.

?Thanks! and regards to all,

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Subject: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text

Posting a fourth time:  earlier postings did not get through

Adobe? FrameMaker? 8.0p277 (2008-05-23-07) structured

US Army DTD as provided by Writer / Editor, US Army major command.

We are shifting from FrameMaker unstructured into structured.  Our first 
project is to conform to the DTD.  We have _lots_ of passages encoded with 
conditional text, and I hoping there's a wise, reasonably-easy way to sort this 
out.

If you have experience with adapting to the DTD - especially in transition from 
unstructured documents, please contact me off-line.

"?Thanks! in advance for your help and
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Run-in head and All Properties option

2009-09-29 Thread suhas.mur...@tcs.com
Hi,

Can anyone help me out with the following: -

1) What is the use of the All Properties option in Global Update options?
2) What are Run-in Heads and How to use the Run--in Head punctuation 
option in the paragraph designer?


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Run-in head and All Properties option

2009-09-29 Thread Kelly McDaniel


-Original Message-
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suhas.murthy at tcs.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:42 AM
To: Combs, Richard
Cc: Alison Craig; framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Run-in head and All Properties option

Hi,

Can anyone help me out with the following: -

>>>1) What is the use of the All Properties option in Global Update
options?

Manage paragraph and character formats
Update formats
You can change format properties and then use them to redefine, or
update, the stored formats and all the text in the document tagged with
them.
When you update a format, you can update all properties or just one
group of properties. For example, you can change the default font family
for all formats in a document without changing any other properties.

>>>2) What are Run-in Heads and How to use the Run--in Head punctuation 
option in the paragraph designer?

Create run-in heads
Run-in heads are separate paragraphs on the same line as normal body
text. They have the same margins as normal body text, and typically have
a different font or weight for contrast. You can use a punctuation mark
to set them off from the text that follows.
The space between the run-in head and the preceding paragraph is
determined by the Space Below setting of the previous paragraph or the
Space Above setting of the run-in head, whichever is greater.
1
Click in the paragraph to change. If the paragraph is already a run-in
head, it is on the same line as the paragraph following it.
2
Select Format > Paragraphs > Designer and click the Pagination tab.
3
Select Run-In Head -- Default Punctuation. If necessary, enter the
punctuation, space, or combination of the two that you want to use.
Note: To override punctuation later, type the new punctuation in the
run-in head. FrameMaker ignores the punctuation specified in the Default
Punctuation box but retains any special characters that are part of the
default, including em and en spaces.
4
Click Apply To Selection.
5
Display the Default Font properties and change the run-in head's font so
that it stands out from the surrounding text, if you want.
6
Click Apply To Selection.


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FW: Requesting help with 40051-2, conditional text: SUMMARY

2009-09-29 Thread qui...@airmail.net
So does the DTD include anything for conditional text? An attribute 
setting that can be used?

Scott

Stamm, David-P45904 wrote:
> 2009-09-29-02T12:25Z
> 
> Thanks to all who responded, naming (only the first five in order of 
> receipt):  Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Nadine Murray, 
> "theboggette," et al.
> 
> To help clarify:
>   1.  We were provided the document type definition by a US Army major 
> command, and (until permitted otherwise), we're not allowed to change it.  
> Therefore, our .edd is similarly fixed.
>   2.  We are not using Darwin Information Typing Architecture.
>   3.  In FrameMaker (unstructured), we encoded only whole paragraphs with 
> conditional text.  It seems as though we need to continue doing that in 
> structured - including the opening and closing tags for those paragraphs.
>   4.  For those who read my posting as a possible solicitation for 
> employment, sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that and wish all of you well in 
> whatever your journeys hold next.
> 
> Art Campbell, thanks for the tips about Free Framers list at omsys.com, the 
> Yahoo Structured FM group, and the structured and unstructured FrameMaker 
> forums at adobe.com.  I might try Free Framers.  As for Yahoo, I don't think 
> I can "get there from here" because of information security restrictions.  My 
> postings to the forum at adobe dot com did not get through, either.
> 
> Fei Min Lorente, I might check in with you.
> 
> ?Thanks! and regards to all,
> 
> Dave Stamm
> Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
> Battle Management Systems Division
> 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200   We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
> Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552
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Using Distiller 9 with Frame 9.0

2009-09-29 Thread Scott White
I found all the updates I could for Frame and Acrobat and still the  
Distiller 9 will not open. I have one other client that is having this  
same issue.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Windows XP Pro, Frame 9.0 with all available updates



Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com


-- next part --

On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

> Have you rebooted?
> Also, there have been several updates, not just one, to FM and to  
> Acrobat...
>
> Art Campbell
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> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers  
> apply.
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Scott White   
> wrote:
>>> I just installed Framemaker 9.0 and did the update. Also installed
>>> the PDF creator. However, I can not get Adobe Acrobat 9 Distiller to
>>> open. I hit the executable but it just blinks at me and sits there.
>>> I do have Acrobate Reader 9.0 installed.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something? Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> Windows XP Pro running parallels on Mac OS10.5.
>>
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Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, everyone.

My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. (Engineers feel a need 
to write an entire encyclopedia entry in each caption, and I haven't been able 
to dissuade them.)

I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that is broken like 
this:


Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
 Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage 
(Parallel R/C Network)

It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align correctly if your 
email is set to Plain Text):

Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. . . . . . . . . . . 1-8

Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
   Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage 
   (Parallel R/C Network)>1-9

I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 above use the same 
reference page entry. No other tab interferes with the proper placement of the 
page number. So why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?

Is this such an old problem that I've forgotten the solution? I know I've 
encountered it before -- but I also know that other figure titles with soft 
returns in them have worked just fine. I don't know what's wrong with this one.

Thanks for your help.

--Nancy


Using Distiller 9 with Frame 9.0

2009-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
Just to clarify here, you're talking about the limited Distiller
instance that's coat-tailed on to the Frame install, correct? Not the
Distiller that's part of the full Acrobat install.

Does the Acrobat printer instance show up in your Printers and Fax folder?
Can you set it as your system default printer?
And finally, can you print to it from Frame?

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Scott White  wrote:
> I found all the updates I could for Frame and Acrobat and still the
> Distiller 9 will not open. I have one other client that is having this same
> issue.
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>
> Windows XP Pro, Frame 9.0 with all available updates


Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
Add a few (three if it's always three lines) tab stops on the TOC
Reference Page between  and .

Or if it's just that one caption, you can probably add a tab stop at
the end of the caption; that may be picked up and solve it too.


Art Campbell
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. (Engineers feel a 
> need to write an entire encyclopedia entry in each caption, and I haven't 
> been able to dissuade them.)
>
> I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that is broken like 
> this:
>
>
> Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
> ?Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage
> (Parallel R/C Network)
>
> It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align correctly if your 
> email is set to Plain Text):
>
> Figure 1.6 ? Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-8
>
> Figure 1.7 ? Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (Parallel R/C Network)>1-9
>
> I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 above use the 
> same reference page entry. No other tab interferes with the proper placement 
> of the page number. So why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?
>
> Is this such an old problem that I've forgotten the solution? I know I've 
> encountered it before -- but I also know that other figure titles with soft 
> returns in them have worked just fine. I don't know what's wrong with this 
> one.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> --Nancy
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Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Combs, Richard
Nancy Allison wrote:

> My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. (Engineers
feel a
> need to write an entire encyclopedia entry in each caption, and I
haven't
> been able to dissuade them.)
> 
> I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that is
broken
> like this:
> 
> 
> Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
>  Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage
> (Parallel R/C Network)
> 
> It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align correctly
if
> your email is set to Plain Text):
> 
> Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . .
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-8
> 
> Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing
the
>Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test
> Voltage
>(Parallel R/C Network)>1-9
> 
> I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 above use
the
> same reference page entry. No other tab interferes with the proper
> placement of the page number. So why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?


In the ref page entry, put multiple tab characters between <$paratext>
and <$chapnum> -- at least one for each line in your longest caption.
Each time a line of text in the pgf moves past that tab position, it
"burns" one of the tab characters. So you've "run out," as it were. :-) 

HTH!
Richard


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Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Nancy Allison
Beayootiful! (Adding the tabs back into the reference page worked. Adding them 
to the end of the captions did not.)

You are my heroes! Thanks!




Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work

2009-09-29 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Nancy,

Yes. As others already said, add more tabs between
<$paratext> and <$chapnum>.

However, you do not need 1 per line.

You have to add as many tabs so that there will be at
least the same number of tabs in the last line as in
regular first lines.

Examples:

Figure 1.6:xtab1-8
Here you have a single tab. When you add a soft return
you still have your single tab before the page number.
You do not need additional tabs:
Figure 1.6:
xxxtab1-8

Figure 1.6:tabxtab1-8
Here you have two tabs. When you add a soft return you
have only a single tab before the page number in the
second line. The first one between the figure number
and the figure title is missing:
Figure 1.6:tab
xxxtab1-8

With an additional tab it works:
Figure 1.6:tab
xxxtabtab1-8

This is the same if you would have 3 lines. Still you
need only 2 tabs in the last line:
Figure 1.6:tab
xx
xxxtabtab1-8

I guess you can calculate how many tabs you need, if you
would have an additional tab between "Figure" and the
figure number.

Therefore you have to do this:
o Make sure that the indentation of the second line matches
  the first tab.
o Add a single tab between <$paratext> and <$chapnum>.
  But more do not harm.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nancy Allison
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:01 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Tab in multi-line TOC entry does not work
> 
> Hi, everyone.
> 
> My List of Figures includes a caption that is very long. 
> (Engineers feel a need to write an entire encyclopedia entry 
> in each caption, and I haven't been able to dissuade them.)
> 
> I put soft returns in the actual caption in the text, so that 
> is broken like this:
> 
> 
> Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, Showing the
>  Various Parameters of Current as a Function of Test Voltage 
> (Parallel R/C Network)
> 
> It shows up in the List of Figures like this (should align 
> correctly if your email is set to Plain Text):
> 
> Figure 1.6   Blah blah blah . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-8
> 
> Figure 1.7   Simplified Equivalent Circuits of a Dielectric, 
> Showing the
>Various Parameters of Current as a 
> Function of Test Voltage 
>(Parallel R/C Network)>1-9
> 
> I've checked on the Reference page. Both figure 1.6 and 1.7 
> above use the same reference page entry. No other tab 
> interferes with the proper placement of the page number. So 
> why doesn't 1-9 appear under 1-8?
> 
> Is this such an old problem that I've forgotten the solution? 
> I know I've encountered it before -- but I also know that 
> other figure titles with soft returns in them have worked 
> just fine. I don't know what's wrong with this one.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> --Nancy


9.0.2 Upgrade problem

2009-09-29 Thread ri...@inficon.com
Win XP on a Dell workstation. FM9 (TCS2, actually).

Since my FM9 Updater does not work, I'm trying to download the patches 
from Adobe.com. I've been trying off/on for the past few days.

9.0.1 downloaded and installed fine (9.0p230). 

9.0.2 downloaded a corrupt 10.8 MB (should be 21.6 MB) file. It does 
nothing when I click on it. 

9.0.3 downloaded fine, but won't install because my version of FM is 
incorrect (I'm assuming because 9.0.2 is not installed).

Has anyone else had a problem downloading the FM 9.0.2 patch from 
Adobe.com?



[framescript-users] OT: Backup software

2009-09-29 Thread Mike H
I have used Drivesnapshot (http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/index.htm)
without a hitch for three years on XP and Vista. Very lean; if
preferred, no installation is required, it'll just run off the command
line. And it runs a complete verify on the backup, unlike most other
programs. On any version of Windows (at least 2K to Vista), you can
bind it into Bart PE, then you restore by booting of your Bart PE CD.

Cheers,
Mike

>>
Having just survived a hard drive meltdown, with the loss of some data, I am
looking for recommendations for backup software. I normally back up my data,
but it is still a pain to reinstall all of my programs and set things up
after a disaster. Is there a way to make a disk image that can be used so
that the OS, applications, etc. can be restored? ...
<<


Michael Heine
London, Ontario
Canada


PDF Creator Issues with Frame9

2009-09-29 Thread Scott White
Since I have upgraded our MACs running parallels from Frame 7.2 to 9.0  
we have been encountering some issues in relation to colors and PDF  
creation.
When I use the save as pdf option with a file that is using a color in  
the table column info, a square box appears around that particular  
column heading. When I print to postscript and open the file in  
distiller 6.0 there are no problems everything looks as it should.
I can't get Distiller 9.0 to open itself on the machine, so I'm taking  
the postscript file to an older pc I have and distilling it.

Anyone else run into this? I have other customers experiencing this  
same behavior and other color issues.
Windows XP Pro and Vista via Parallels/Frame 9.0/All updates installed.



Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com


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PDF Creator Issues with Frame9

2009-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
Scott, if you do a bit of Googling and/or check out old messages on
the Adobe FM forum, you'll note that there have been issues with 9's
SaveAsPDF option for some time, and for many people the problems have
existed in earlier revs. The current advice of most people is not to
use the SaveAsPDF option because it's buggy.

What happens when you print directly to the Acobe PDF printer
instance? Save behavior or something different?

And have you tried to create a PDF on a straight Windows platform so
you can rule out Parallels as part of the problem?

Art

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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Scott White  wrote:
> Since I have upgraded our MACs running parallels from Frame 7.2 to 9.0 we
> have been encountering some issues in relation to colors and PDF creation.
> When I use the save as pdf option with a file that is using a color in the
> table column info, a square box appears around that particular column
> heading. When I print to postscript and open the file in distiller 6.0 there
> are no problems everything looks as it should.
> I can't get Distiller 9.0 to open itself on the machine, so I'm taking the
> postscript file to an older pc I have and distilling it.
>
> Anyone else run into this? I have other customers experiencing this same
> behavior and other color issues.
> Windows XP Pro and Vista via Parallels/Frame 9.0/All updates installed.
>
>
>
> Scott White
> Media Production & EBC Manager
> Implementation Coordinator
> 210-704-8239
> swhite at alamark.com
>
>
>
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Centering text vertically on a page

2009-09-29 Thread Jim Duszynski
Hello All,

First post!

How do I center text vertically on a page?

Thanks!

Jim Duszynski



Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-29 Thread Jim Duszynski
Is there any advantage to upgrade from FM 7.2 to FM 9? I am using FM9 trial now 
and not finding enough improvement in features to justify the c0st to my 
management.

Another way to ask the question is, does anyone have any experience with FM 7.2 
and compatibility with computer system utilities as time goes by?

Thanks!

Jim Duszynski


Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-29 Thread Flato, Gillian
Multiple undos, track changes.

Thank you,


Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
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Milpitas, CA. 95035
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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:30 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

Is there any advantage to upgrade from FM 7.2 to FM 9? I am using FM9
trial now and not finding enough improvement in features to justify the
c0st to my management.

Another way to ask the question is, does anyone have any experience with
FM 7.2 and compatibility with computer system utilities as time goes by?

Thanks!

Jim Duszynski
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