Resize all table widths to new page size (was letter, now A4)?

[Fausset, Marilyn]

Anybody know how to autofit tables that were designed to fit letter size paper 
so they fit within the margins for A4 paper size/within the text frame? I'm 
looking for the most global solution possible.
I have hundreds of tables (just a few table formats/styles) that are outside of 
the margins now that I've changed the paper size from letter to A4. I want the 
tables to proportionately resize ("autofit") to be within the A4 margins.  I 
use FrameMaker 10. I have already resized the paper to A4 and thought the 
tables would resize, but no luck. I've tried to copy special, but that only 
works for single columns. Redefining the table tags hasn't worked either.

I have wasted too much time already addressing individual tables, but I need a 
global solution. I am doing this at the request of an ISO editor, by the way. 
This is for a standard currently in the ISO submission process.

Thanks in advance. I'm going crazy with this!
Marilyn

Marilyn Fausset
Senior Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association
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Resize all table widths to new page size (was letter, now A4)?

[Lin Sims]

Rick Quattro's TableCleaner plugin:

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/index.htm

$60, and worth every penny.


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Fausset, Marilyn
wrote:

> Anybody know how to autofit tables that were designed to fit letter size
> paper so they fit within the margins for A4 paper size/within the text
> frame? I'm looking for the most global solution possible.
>
> I have hundreds of tables (just a few table formats/styles) that are
> outside of the margins now that I've changed the paper size from letter to
> A4. I want the tables to proportionately resize ("autofit") to be within
> the A4 margins.  I use FrameMaker 10. I have already resized the paper to
> A4 and thought the tables would resize, but no luck. I've tried to copy
> special, but that only works for single columns. Redefining the table tags
> hasn't worked either.
>
> ** **
>
> I have wasted too much time already addressing individual tables, but I
> need a global solution. I am doing this at the request of an ISO editor, by
> the way. This is for a standard currently in the ISO submission process. *
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks in advance. I'm going crazy with this!
>
> Marilyn
>
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>
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>
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>
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mass update of system variable

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Hi Craig,

According to Lin, you use File > Import > Formats and import variables.

 From Lin Sims:
1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update.
2. Save as a MIF file.
3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor.
4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update.
5. Save and close the file.
6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF 
snippet.

Lin: please correct me if I'm understanding incorrectly.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 22-Apr-13 4:01 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
> If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
> means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
> Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually importing
> the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Craig
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:32 PM
> To: Ed Tudsbery; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: mass update of system variable
>
> If the MIF snippet or some other approach works, you could do all files at
> once by creating a scratch book, using Windows' search to find all your .fm
> files, and dragging and dropping the found files into the book. Then, in
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Convert headings to destinations in PDF

[Harvey, Peggy]

Hi Framers,

Does anyone know of a tool that automatically converts headings in FrameMaker 
files to named destinations in the PDF? I have reason to believe such a tool 
exists. One tip I have is it seems to convert periods and spaces to 
underscores, so the heading "1.1 Overview" appears as the named destination 
"1_1_Overview" in the PDF.

Thanks for your help.

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Imported text

[John Sgammato]

That's how I do it. I always use text insets for copyright and contact
info, and very seldom for anything else.


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, meg miranda  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame
> books.
>
> Do you use this Frame feature?
> If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?
>
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc
> sets.  So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can
> import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.
>
> thanks,
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Webworks: Problem with the order of pages when I convert a Frame file that has a mixture of landscape and portrait pages

[Karen Carroll]

Hi,


We have some wide tables that we want to display in landscape in a mainly 
portrait document. I have set up our  Frame templates to allow users to do this 
using Landscape Left and Landscape Right master pages. This works great for our 
PDF output, however when I convert our content to HTML using WebWorks the 
landscape page displays below all other portrait pages in the chapter. Is there 
a way to ensure that WebWorks follows the same page order as the Frame file? 
Any ideas on cracking this problem would be great.

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Re: Resize all table widths to new page size (was letter, now A4)?

[Lin Sims]

Rick Quattro's TableCleaner plugin:

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/index.htm

$60, and worth every penny.


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Fausset, Marilyn
wrote:

> Anybody know how to autofit tables that were designed to fit letter size
> paper so they fit within the margins for A4 paper size/within the text
> frame? I'm looking for the most global solution possible.
>
> I have hundreds of tables (just a few table formats/styles) that are
> outside of the margins now that I've changed the paper size from letter to
> A4. I want the tables to proportionately resize ("autofit") to be within
> the A4 margins.  I use FrameMaker 10. I have already resized the paper to
> A4 and thought the tables would resize, but no luck. I've tried to copy
> special, but that only works for single columns. Redefining the table tags
> hasn't worked either.
>
> ** **
>
> I have wasted too much time already addressing individual tables, but I
> need a global solution. I am doing this at the request of an ISO editor, by
> the way. This is for a standard currently in the ISO submission process. *
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks in advance. I'm going crazy with this!
>
> Marilyn
>
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Resize all table widths to new page size (was letter, now A4)?

[Fausset, Marilyn]

Anybody know how to autofit tables that were designed to fit letter size paper 
so they fit within the margins for A4 paper size/within the text frame? I'm 
looking for the most global solution possible.
I have hundreds of tables (just a few table formats/styles) that are outside of 
the margins now that I've changed the paper size from letter to A4. I want the 
tables to proportionately resize ("autofit") to be within the A4 margins.  I 
use FrameMaker 10. I have already resized the paper to A4 and thought the 
tables would resize, but no luck. I've tried to copy special, but that only 
works for single columns. Redefining the table tags hasn't worked either.

I have wasted too much time already addressing individual tables, but I need a 
global solution. I am doing this at the request of an ISO editor, by the way. 
This is for a standard currently in the ISO submission process.

Thanks in advance. I'm going crazy with this!
Marilyn

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Selecting Colours for Conditions

[Harro de Jong]

Alison Craig wrote:

> 
> Does anyone know if any kind of "guide" exists regarding the best colours to 
> choose
> when creating Conditions?
> 
> When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see 
> how colours
> blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text (lots of 
> combos
> ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the combination of
> underlying colours were quite different). It didn't make sense to use colours 
> in the
> first place if I couldn't tell where one combo stopped and the next one 
> started.

I used to have a couple of books with 20+ conditions. Too many to keep track of 
by color, so I switched to another strategy: I applied the same color to an 
entire group of conditions. 
- all product type conditions were blue
- Comment etc. were red
This meant that the color would at least indicate which function a condition 
had, but not which condition it was exactly. 

For now, you may be able to use text styles (under/overline) in combination 
with colors to keep them apart, but that too breaks down if you add too many 
conditions. 

At that point, it becomes essential to have the Conditional Text dialog open at 
all times. 

Harro de Jong
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Imported text

[Robert Lauriston]

I use insets (File > Import > File > Import By Reference) for
copyright and other boilerplate.

I generally use .fm files for that. I use .txt for the browser support
boilerplate, though I can't remember why (it's a workaround for some
problem I encountered).

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM, meg miranda  wrote:
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.
> So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it
> into the cover page of all 20 of our books.

Imported text

[meg miranda]

Hi all,

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.  
So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into 
the cover page of all 20 of our books.

thanks,
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[meg miranda]

Hi all,

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.? 
So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into 
the cover page of all 20 of our books.

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mass update of system variable

[Lin Sims]

Shmuel,

Yes, you understood correctly. That's how Shlomo showed me how to do it. I
took his two FrameMaker template courses a few years ago.

Lin


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> According to Lin, you use File > Import > Formats and import variables.
>
> From Lin Sims:
>
> 1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update.
> 2. Save as a MIF file.
> 3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor.
> 4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update.
> 5. Save and close the file.
> 6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF
> snippet.
>
> Lin: please correct me if I'm understanding incorrectly.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
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>
>
> On 22-Apr-13 4:01 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
>
>> If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
>> means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
>> Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually
>> importing
>> the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:32 PM
>> To: Ed Tudsbery; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: mass update of system variable
>>
>> If the MIF snippet or some other approach works, you could do all files at
>> once by creating a scratch book, using Windows' search to find all your
>> .fm
>> files, and dragging and dropping the found files into the book. Then, in
>> FrameMaker, select all the files in the book and import the snippet.
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[Alison Craig]

lict in some way.)  I think I 
had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for 
Print3 and dark blue for printOnly.

On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour 
scheme.  Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours 
on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition 
markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.

HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...
Helen

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RE: Framers: What good uses are Pods ?

[Combs, Richard]

Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:
 
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:35:44 -0700, Maxwell Hoffmann
> >  wrote:
> 
> >For instance, pre V9, index markers could only be viewed one
> >at a time in a modal marker dialogue that froze the screen.
> 
> That's just not true.  The marker dialog has always been
> modeless, not modal.  You could only view one at a time,
> and edit it, but I often left it up next to the main doc
> window, along with the modeless Find dialog with which
> you can step through the markers in your doc as you want.

Absolutely correct. And not just the Marker and Find dialogs -- the Conditional 
Text, Hypertext, and Equations dialogs were also modeless, along with the 
designers, catalogs, and Tools Palette. All could be left open on a second 
monitor or to one side of the FM window on a large-enough single monitor. 

The major problem with the stepping-through-markers workflow Jeremy mentions is 
the tiny text in the (non-resizable) Marker dialog box, which requires 
excellent vision to distinguish colons from semicolons. Fortunately, excellent 
indexing tool alternatives like IXGen and Index Tools Pro took care of that 
problem (and added a great deal of additional functionality as well). 

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Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:35:44 -0700, Maxwell Hoffmann
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> 
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> >at a time in a modal marker dialogue that froze the screen.
> 
> That's just not true.  The marker dialog has always been
> modeless, not modal.  You could only view one at a time,
> and edit it, but I often left it up next to the main doc
> window, along with the modeless Find dialog with which
> you can step through the markers in your doc as you want.

Absolutely correct. And not just the Marker and Find dialogs -- the Conditional 
Text, Hypertext, and Equations dialogs were also modeless, along with the 
designers, catalogs, and Tools Palette. All could be left open on a second 
monitor or to one side of the FM window on a large-enough single monitor. 

The major problem with the stepping-through-markers workflow Jeremy mentions is 
the tiny text in the (non-resizable) Marker dialog box, which requires 
excellent vision to distinguish colons from semicolons. Fortunately, excellent 
indexing tool alternatives like IXGen and Index Tools Pro took care of that 
problem (and added a great deal of additional functionality as well). 

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Framers: What good uses are Pods ?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:35:44 -0700, Maxwell Hoffmann
>  wrote:

>For instance, pre V9, index markers could only be viewed one 
>at a time in a modal marker dialogue that froze the screen.

That's just not true.  The marker dialog has always been
modeless, not modal.  You could only view one at a time,
and edit it, but I often left it up next to the main doc
window, along with the modeless Find dialog with which
you can step through the markers in your doc as you want.

The screen never froze.  But using *pods* may make you 
think it has, because everything gets much slower.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/

Framers: What good uses are Pods ?

[Robert Lauriston]

I've seen no functional difference between the old marker dialog and
the new marker pod or panel. I don't understand your reference to
sorting them. Maybe I've missed some new feature?

The two UI elements I use regularly that pop up from the bottom are
variables and conditions. I find them much less efficient than the old
UI since I have to click maybe six times to do something that used to
take one or two clicks.

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann  
wrote:
> Hassan,
>
> The biggest advantage of pods over the panels from *earlier* releases (pre FM 
> V9) is that they allow persistent display of some information that was only 
> available in "modal" dialogues that previously froze the screen and prevented 
> editing of page content. For instance, pre V9, index markers could only be 
> viewed one at a time in a modal marker dialogue that froze the screen. The 
> current markers pods allows you to see all markers in your current document, 
> or in all open documents.
>
> Pods are generally intended for temporary use, popping them up from the 
> bottom of the workspace as needed. You can close pods and save an alternate 
> workspace that does not have them.
>
> Everyone has their different preferences, and some long-time users who recall 
> the UNIX-inspired pre-V9 interface still prefer an interface w/o pods. 
> Personally, I have found pods to make FrameMaker much more friendly on a 
> small laptop screen than was possible with the older user interface.
>
> I frequently use the following pods for monitoring hidden information and 
> making corrections in the following areas:
> == cross references
> == insets (referenced graphics and/or text)
> == markers (can be sorted alphabetically, by page, by type or document)
> == hotspots (for a new feature in FrameMaker 11)
>
> I don't expect to persuade anyone who is not a fan of pods to start liking 
> them, but I found that they saved me countless hours while working with 1,200 
> page projects in 24 languages.
>
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> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Framers: What good uses are Pods ?
>
> Let me be more specific. I am new to Framemaker but I am taking the time to 
> learn it. Im looking to clarify the uses of  Pods.
>
> I have read that Pods are frequently used dialog boxes that have an interface 
> designed to simplify your work.
>
> When I look at the panel and pods, whats the advantage of making it "easier" 
> to use Pods when i have panels ? I know I don't have much experience, but I 
> tried to learn more on the Internet and all I see is moving pods/panels 
> around to make your workspace easier. Also, is their any efficiency  to using 
> Pods rather then panels ? I guess what Im looking for are Framers who have 
> experience and can give me their insight on their own experience and to get 
> motivated to use them.
>
> Thank you
>
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Selecting Colours for Conditions

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

dexing tools use blue for index markers.  I also avoided red because Fm8 
seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.)  I think I 
had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for 
Print3 and dark blue for printOnly.

On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour 
scheme.  Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours 
on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition 
markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.

HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...
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mass update of system variable

[Harro de Jong]

Lin Sims wrote:

> My concern with doing that sort of thing was that Edwin said there were 
> hundreds of
> files to be updated. Opening that many either all at once or one by one, as 
> Frame
> does when the files aren't already open, could tie up even the most robust 
> system
> for a long time.

One of my first FrameMaker jobs 15 years ago in Frame 4 on a Sun platform, was 
to update hundreds of files with new variable values. I used the same approach, 
dropping all the files in a single book. It took a while, but it did work. If 
it was possible back then on a system with 100x less memory than you'd have 
available now...

;-)

Harro de Jong
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Re: mass update of system variable

[Lin Sims]

Shmuel,

Yes, you understood correctly. That's how Shlomo showed me how to do it. I
took his two FrameMaker template courses a few years ago.

Lin


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> According to Lin, you use File > Import > Formats and import variables.
>
> From Lin Sims:
>
> 1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update.
> 2. Save as a MIF file.
> 3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor.
> 4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update.
> 5. Save and close the file.
> 6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF
> snippet.
>
> Lin: please correct me if I'm understanding incorrectly.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
>
>
> On 22-Apr-13 4:01 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
>
>> If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
>> means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
>> Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually
>> importing
>> the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:32 PM
>> To: Ed Tudsbery; framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: mass update of system variable
>>
>> If the MIF snippet or some other approach works, you could do all files at
>> once by creating a scratch book, using Windows' search to find all your
>> .fm
>> files, and dragging and dropping the found files into the book. Then, in
>> FrameMaker, select all the files in the book and import the snippet.
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Re: Framers: What good uses are Pods ?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:35:44 -0700, Maxwell Hoffmann
>  wrote:

>For instance, pre V9, index markers could only be viewed one 
>at a time in a modal marker dialogue that froze the screen.

That's just not true.  The marker dialog has always been
modeless, not modal.  You could only view one at a time,
and edit it, but I often left it up next to the main doc
window, along with the modeless Find dialog with which
you can step through the markers in your doc as you want.

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Re: mass update of system variable

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Hi Craig,

According to Lin, you use File > Import > Formats and import variables.

From Lin Sims:
1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update.
2. Save as a MIF file.
3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor.
4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update.
5. Save and close the file.
6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF 
snippet.


Lin: please correct me if I'm understanding incorrectly.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 22-Apr-13 4:01 AM, Craig Ede wrote:

If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually importing
the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Craig

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RE: mass update of system variable

[Harro de Jong]

Lin Sims wrote:

> My concern with doing that sort of thing was that Edwin said there were 
> hundreds of
> files to be updated. Opening that many either all at once or one by one, as 
> Frame
> does when the files aren't already open, could tie up even the most robust 
> system
> for a long time.

One of my first FrameMaker jobs 15 years ago in Frame 4 on a Sun platform, was 
to update hundreds of files with new variable values. I used the same approach, 
dropping all the files in a single book. It took a while, but it did work. If 
it was possible back then on a system with 100x less memory than you'd have 
available now...

;-)

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RE: mass update of system variable

[Craig Ede]

If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That
means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File >
Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually importing
the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense).

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Craig

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RE: Selecting Colours for Conditions

[rebecca officer]

Hi Alison
 
We're dealing with something similar by using conditions with colored text for product variations and conditions wiith background shading for feature variations. You could give your short/advanced conditions background shading instead of colored text. 
 
Cheers
Rebecca >>> Alison Craig  20/04/13 04:39 >>>

Thanks guys. Unfortunately, my original Conditions are for a very different purpose than what you describe.
 
We have 5 different hardware platforms for our medical device, but a large portion of the book is common to all platforms. Currently, my Conditions cover the differences between the platforms – and many times, the same info will pertain to only 1 or perhaps 2, 3 or 4 platforms, but not all five. By definition, those Conditions overlap.
 
I am now having to devise Short and Advanced versions of the book. Up to 95% of this will be covered by the inclusion/exclusion of Chapters and Appendices in a new book, but a small amount of content within the book files themselves will have to conditionalized as Short or Advanced. 
 
I was hoping to save a little time, but I guess that’s not possible.
 
As for overlapping Conditions ending up as magenta, I did have some of that problem, but I also had a problem with muddy blues and the khaki issue you mention. That’s why it took so long to determine the correct mix of colours in the first place – especially as I used to cover 6 platforms in one book, not just the 5 I currently do.
 
Alison
 
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Böðvar BjörgvinssonSent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:00 AMTo: Helen BorrieCc: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Re: Selecting Colours for Conditions
 

Great, Helen.

 

Another way of doing it might have been to create colors under the names of the condition names: eOnly, Print1, etc. That way you would not have to remember any color names or to which condition each color applied.

 

Cheers,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

 








 

 
 

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Helen Borrie  wrote:
At 09:17 a.m. 19/04/2013, Alison Craig wrote:>Content-Language: en-US>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;>        boundary="_000_17474827509158478EE10BC6B977A3E30CC5A15342exchangeultra_"

>>FM 9 Version: 9.0p255>Unstructured>OS: Windows 7, 64 bit>>Does anyone know if any kind of “guide” exists regarding the best colours to choose when creating Conditions?>>When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text (lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the combination of underlying colours were quite different). It didn’t make sense to use colours in the first place if I couldn’t tell where one combo stopped and the next one started.>>I now have to add 2 new conditions (on a tight deadline) so I really don’t have a lot of time to test things. If someone has put together some kind of guide, I’d really love to see it – if you’re willing to share.
Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print.  It's the first time I've using conditionals seriously.  I followed the advice in Sarah O'Keefe's book and avoided having overlapping conditions.  I had to play around a bit until I got useful contrasts.The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition.  In fact, I never saw magenta at all;  all the overlaps that I had in my initial scheme (subsequently abandoned) came through as a sort of khaki when I did the conditionals for the first chapter.  That's when I decided Sarah was right and I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, Print2 and Print3.  (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus print edition as it is wy too large.)I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions (avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie indexing tools use blue for index markers.  I also avoided red because Fm8 seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.)  I think I had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for Print3 and dark blue for printOnly.On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour scheme.  Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...Helen___You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsub

RE: Framers: What good uses are Pods ?

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Hassan,

The biggest advantage of pods over the panels from *earlier* releases (pre FM 
V9) is that they allow persistent display of some information that was only 
available in "modal" dialogues that previously froze the screen and prevented 
editing of page content. For instance, pre V9, index markers could only be 
viewed one at a time in a modal marker dialogue that froze the screen. The 
current markers pods allows you to see all markers in your current document, or 
in all open documents.

Pods are generally intended for temporary use, popping them up from the bottom 
of the workspace as needed. You can close pods and save an alternate workspace 
that does not have them. 

Everyone has their different preferences, and some long-time users who recall 
the UNIX-inspired pre-V9 interface still prefer an interface w/o pods. 
Personally, I have found pods to make FrameMaker much more friendly on a small 
laptop screen than was possible with the older user interface. 

I frequently use the following pods for monitoring hidden information and 
making corrections in the following areas:
== cross references
== insets (referenced graphics and/or text)
== markers (can be sorted alphabetically, by page, by type or document)
== hotspots (for a new feature in FrameMaker 11)

I don't expect to persuade anyone who is not a fan of pods to start liking 
them, but I found that they saved me countless hours while working with 1,200 
page projects in 24 languages.

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Framers: What good uses are Pods ?

Let me be more specific. I am new to Framemaker but I am taking the time to 
learn it. Im looking to clarify the uses of  Pods. 

I have read that Pods are frequently used dialog boxes that have an interface 
designed to simplify your work.

When I look at the panel and pods, whats the advantage of making it "easier" to 
use Pods when i have panels ? I know I don't have much experience, but I tried 
to learn more on the Internet and all I see is moving pods/panels around to 
make your workspace easier. Also, is their any efficiency  to using Pods rather 
then panels ? I guess what Im looking for are Framers who have experience and 
can give me their insight on their own experience and to get motivated to use 
them.

Thank you

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Re: mass update of system variable

[ETudsbery]

Hi Lin,

Thanks very much for this help. 

I created a MIF file with the system variable definitions I required and 
then imported that into different FM books. It worked a dream, as it 
didn't change the user variables defined in the document (which was my 
concern).

thanks again,

Edwin



From:
Lin Sims 
To:
"Reng, Dr. Winfried" , 
Cc:
"etudsb...@cpaglobal.com" , Frame Users 

Date:
19/04/2013 15:17
Subject:
Re: mass update of system variable



If it helps any, I learned to do this from Shlomo. :)

Yes, Edwin will have to open each book to do this, but it's still faster 
than editing one file in each book and importing from there. I don't think 
there's a plugin available that will do any better than that.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried  
wrote:
Hi Lin,
 
I was sure.
 
If you open a MIF snippet to be able to import formats
from it, all variables which are not defined in the MIF snippet
are populatead with the default values. That’s why I never used
it to import formats from it. However, if you do import formats,
it seems that these default values are _not_ imported although
they are there. Strange.
 
If you import the MIF snippet as a file, then you can import it only
into a single file. Of course you can then import variables into
all other files of the book. However, this is not what the poster
wanted.
 
I would make a book with all the files (from all the folders
and subfolders) and use one of the plugin to import a single
variable.
 
Best regards
 
Winfried
 
From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:56 PM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Cc: etudsb...@cpaglobal.com; Frame Users

Subject: Re: mass update of system variable
 
Really? I've used a MIF snippet in the last month to update all the 
variables in a book file, and that was in Frame10. 

(ETudsbury, I forgot to say that you have to reopen the MIF file in 
FrameMaker, but I figured you'd know that since the file you're importing 
from has to be open.)
 
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried  
wrote:
Hi,
 
MIF snippets do not work.
You can import the MIF snippet only via import by copy
into a single file. If you would then import the variables
from this file into other files (via import formats), you would
import all variables.
 
I would recommend to check the variable plugins from
Leximation and Silicon Prairie Software:
http://leximation.com/tools/
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
 
I do not know these plugins. However, I am sure
they would help you.
 
Best regards
 
Winfried
 
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:36 PM
To: etudsb...@cpaglobal.com
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: mass update of system variable
 
MIF snippet.

1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update.
2. Save as a MIF file.
3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor.
4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update.
5. Save and close the file.
6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF 
snippet.
Let me know if you have questions. :)
Lin
 
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:25 AM,  wrote:
Hello, 

I'd like to update the definition for the system variable "Running H/F1" 
for hundreds of FrameMaker 7.2 files. I don't want to update other user 
variables, so I can't use the Import > Formats > Variable definitions 
method. 

Does anyone know of a painless way of doing this? 

regards, 

Edwin Tudsbery 

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RE: Selecting Colours for Conditions

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

As far as I know magenta was applied to overlapping conditions in previous
versions of FrameMaker (7?). Helen uses version 9. Its help says:
This color is midway of all colors of the condition tags that you have already
applied to the current text.

Possibly Helen's FrameMaker book, which mentioned magenta for overlapping
conditions, was about an earlier FrameMaker version.

Best regards

Winfried

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:40 PM
To: Böðvar Björgvinsson; Helen Borrie
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Selecting Colours for Conditions

Thanks guys. Unfortunately, my original Conditions are for a very different 
purpose than what you describe.

We have 5 different hardware platforms for our medical device, but a large 
portion of the book is common to all platforms. Currently, my Conditions cover 
the differences between the platforms - and many times, the same info will 
pertain to only 1 or perhaps 2, 3 or 4 platforms, but not all five. By 
definition, those Conditions overlap.

I am now having to devise Short and Advanced versions of the book. Up to 95% of 
this will be covered by the inclusion/exclusion of Chapters and Appendices in a 
new book, but a small amount of content within the book files themselves will 
have to conditionalized as Short or Advanced.

I was hoping to save a little time, but I guess that's not possible.

As for overlapping Conditions ending up as magenta, I did have some of that 
problem, but I also had a problem with muddy blues and the khaki issue you 
mention. That's why it took so long to determine the correct mix of colours in 
the first place - especially as I used to cover 6 platforms in one book, not 
just the 5 I currently do.

Alison

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:00 AM
To: Helen Borrie
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Selecting Colours for Conditions

Great, Helen.

Another way of doing it might have been to create colors under the names of the 
condition names: eOnly, Print1, etc. That way you would not have to remember 
any color names or to which condition each color applied.

Cheers,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson


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On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Helen Borrie 
mailto:hele...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
At 09:17 a.m. 19/04/2013, Alison Craig wrote:
>Content-Language: en-US
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>
> boundary="_000_17474827509158478EE10BC6B977A3E30CC5A15342exchangeultra_"
>
>FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
>Unstructured
>OS: Windows 7, 64 bit
>
>Does anyone know if any kind of "guide" exists regarding the best colours to 
>choose when creating Conditions?
>
>When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see 
>how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text 
>(lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the 
>combination of underlying colours were quite different). It didn't make sense 
>to use colours in the first place if I couldn't tell where one combo stopped 
>and the next one started.
>
>I now have to add 2 new conditions (on a tight deadline) so I really don't 
>have a lot of time to test things. If someone has put together some kind of 
>guide, I'd really love to see it - if you're willing to share.
Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print.  It's the 
first time I've using conditionals seriously.  I followed the advice in Sarah 
O'Keefe's book and avoided having overlapping conditions.  I had to play around 
a bit until I got useful contrasts.

The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it 
would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition.  In 
fact, I never saw magenta at all;  all the overlaps that I had in my initial 
scheme (subsequently abandoned) came through as a sort of khaki when I did the 
conditionals for the first chapter.  That's when I decided Sarah was right and 
I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.

The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, 
Print2 and Print3.  (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which 
was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus 
print edition as it is wy too large.)

I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions 
(avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie 
indexing tools use blue for index markers.  I also avoided red because Fm8 
seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.)  I think I 
had forest green for eOnly, green for Pri