My favorite plate, seen a few years ago here in Chicago:
AU DIGR
-Carla
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I sat in on a couple of the Adobe previews at the conference, and I'm
seriously looking forward to Framemaker.next.
We're 'thisclose' to converting to XML/Dita, and the feature
improvements and support I saw coming from Adobe in the next version
make me confident that staying in FM will be a
As previously stated, these are just sneak peak previews, and nothing
is guaranteed to make it in the final build.
For one, I'm pretty sure that they said that the DITA support will be
built in, and you won't have to download the DITA App Pack and install
it.
Improved conditional text handling
Egads, did I do that??? And I'm the Editor for our group...
I blame it on jet lag -- oh, wait, I never left the Central time zone.
OK, I fall back on my original claim of informtion overload. My brain
is too full and its leeking. ;-)
-Carla
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My question is Why?? I suppose this is a little OT, but I cannot
imagine needing more than 10 conditions, even when you create PDF for
both computer screens and handhelds, and also help, as well as have 3 or
4 models of a product described in the
Oh, yeah... two more things I remembered from the demos:
1 - you can embed a 3D image in Frame, and the user can manipulate it in
Acro Reader 8. They can change the lighting, rotate the object, change
it to wireframe, among other things.
2 - you can embed a Flash object directly in Frame. The
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The first couple of pages of the Preface contain the doc info (audience,
scope, purpose, structure, etc.), and the stuff that's shared among the
docs is in the latter 3/4 of the Preface. Would it work to split it into
two files (the first part with all the doc-specific
The free version of Toolbox has an option to either Delete All or Delete
Unused colors from either a file or book.
You can also do the same with paragraph character formats,
user-defined variables, x-ref formats, and table formats.
http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
The paid
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How would you maintain these files?
Conditional text? Separate books?
Short Answer: Yes to both.
Long Answer:
You're thinking about this the correct way. Break apart your content
into topical files (or modules). Then, within the modules, use
Hallo, Verner:
There are several options for doing this.
1. FrameScript (Rick Quatro will surely chime in on this one... :-)
2. Paragraph Tools and Character Tools from Silicon Prairie
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
3. ToolBox from Systec http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
A quick search brings up Chris' TemplateMapper (and other) files posted
on the freeframers site http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ .
Shlomo links to this as well from the Microtype site
http://www.microtype.com/links.html.
-Carla
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Subject: RE: Easiest way to migrate from one FM template to another
Carla Martinek said:
A quick search brings up Chris' TemplateMapper (and other) files
posted
on the freeframers site http://www.freeframers.org/freeware
I'm having a brain cramp... is there anything out there that helps
import HTML files decently into Frame?
I just know this is going to be one of those DOH! moments...
Thanks,
Carla
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Has anyone run into the infamous Scroll Back Bug in FM 8? (which was
nicely circumvented by Rick Quatro's runaroundnone.dll in FM7.2 and
earlier).
We just officially upgraded to FM 8, and as I look to install and/or
upgrade the various plugins and such that we've purchased, I wondered if
I should
I had my translators run a test a few months ago, and they pulled in
several code pages and languages into a single document, with no
problems. I had 30 different languages, including Eastern and Western
European languages, Cyrillic, and multiple Asian languages (zhcn, zhtw,
ko, ja).
Been using Frame since FM 3.0 on Mac back in 1990/91. Don't remember
when I found/first posted to the framers list, but it was a looong
time ago, probably under my maiden name.
Used it on Mac, Win, and Unix at various locations over the years. (Hey,
Adobe -- WE WANT MAC FRAME AGAIN!!!)
Was
This utility for FM7.x did resize many of the windows, including the
conditional text window. I also liked the way it streamlined and
removed some of the redundant information in the screens.
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html
Unfortunately, I don't think it will work on FM6.x, but you can
Our solution is a bit different. We ran into issues with using content
from the reference pages, and found an alternative.
We use AutoText from Silicon Prairie Software. I created a menu that
allows us to insert pre-formatted tables, many already populated with
standard phrases and text, for
A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p
Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever
it was to At Insertion Point.
A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings
for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received
FM 8:
Edit Preferences General
Commenting is at the top, and you can set the font and size there.
-Carla
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The links in the ToC itself to the chapter title and subheadings. All
generated links in the ToC except for this one file work.
The file did contain text insets, but they were converted to normal
text, and the broken links still happened.
We also deleted the first xref marker in the file, on
I have reported this as a bug since FM 8 was released, and also in beta
testing of FM 9. I have let Adobe developers know, in no uncertain
terms, that this is a MAJOR issue. This sort order issue can invalidate
a user's templates which they have used for years.
Please see my entry on the
Lynn -
From my viewpoint, you are doing the right thing now. Moving away from
this method will cause you more problems down the road. However, you may
need to add additional conditional text settings to accommodate your
needs. (I assume you are storing the shared files on a network location
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Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: Lynn Durell; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM file per country for same software
Hi, Carla:
With all your conditions, I'm wondering
The one compelling reason I had to upgrade to FM8 was unicode support.
One of my docs was a multi-lingual safety guide, and each language had
to be done separately, PDF'd on localized machines, and then each
language had to be assembled into the the final book.
This caused problems with some of
The only grammar checker for Frame that I'm aware of is MAXit.
http://www.smartny.com/maxit.htm
I checked it out a couple of years ago, but never used it.
-Carla
***
Carla Martinek, Senior Translation Coordinator/Editor
Zebra Technologies Corporation
333
We had the same problem, and solved it by placing our figure captions
ABOVE the figures. All figure and table captions are above the item they
are referencing, which creates a consistent look throughout our docs.
Why the standard has always been for table titles to be ABOVE and figure
captions to
Nancy -
You need the ShrinkwrapAsIs plugin.
See http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html to download it. Note: I run
it successfully with FM8, although I never bothered to update the web
page to say so.
-Carla
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Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?
I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?
-Carla
Folder/File Structure
Adobe
One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order.
Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches.
Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order
so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts.
Prior to FM8p277, these
OKM 9 U 5
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Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:50 AM
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Cc: fram...@frameusers.com; ashley_mered...@brown.edu
Subject: Re: Bugs, or
I was cleaning my keyboard, and accidentally dropped something on it. It
opened a bunch of windows, and apparently sent this email.
Please ignore.
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
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This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that
it only responds to the first letter you press and if you
press the second it then jumps to the style that starts
with that, if there is one?
Exactly. If you type t2 and press enter, the first style
There's no way to do this directly from your source document.
Create an import_from file using a new blank document. Import the master
pages from your current file into that document. In the import_from doc,
delete all the master pages until you have only the two master pages you
want to import
Suzanne mentioned the Archive plug-in already, and I HIGHLY recommend
it. We use it to capture all the files for the current documentation
release and send them for translation, and we couldn't do without it,
since our files are also stored in multiple folder locations.
-Carla
Situation:
- Maintenance Manual for a printer.
- Framemaker 8 source files on WinXP.
- 2-D exploded diagram graphics pulled from the CAD system. Each diagram
has parts from multiple kits in it. Files created in CorelDraw and/or
Illustrator.
- Documents distributed via PDFs on a CD, although they
Thank you! This was exactly what I remembered seeing in the past.
Shlomo - I should have thought of TimeSavers to start with... :-)
-Carla
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I am using Frame 8. I have a set of seven manuals that are close to 100
pages each. Many sections of these manuals are identical, some sections
differ in detail in minor ways, and fewer sections differ in more
substantial ways. Currently they are all Frame books with
Menahem -
This may or may not help you in the future, but when I send files to the
translators, I use the Archive plugin to create a stand-alone copy of
the source files. I don't need to maintain the original directory
structure since I consider the translated guides to be a snapshot of a
My alma mater, Michigan Technological University, offers an
undergraduate in Scientific and Technical Communication (which is what I
majored in many years ago...) and a Masters in Rhetoric and Technical
Communication.
See http://www.hu.mtu.edu/
Minnesota State University @ Mankato offers both a
Sigh... Please forgive the grammatical blunder. I forgot to delete
both when I went back and added the certificate to the list of options
that MSU offers.
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek
Not an option, as far as I know. Instead, I would create two separate
index markers and conditionalize them.
Use of a plugin such as MarkerWorker might help you in maintaining the
content of markers like this.
-Carla
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
The other option is that if you are an STC member, you have access to
their academic database.
http://www.stc.org/academic/index.aspx
You can search by type of degree, state/location, and online offerings.
39 institutions listed on the STC database offer online degrees or
certificates.
-Carla
You need to come up with a matrix of YOUR specific documentation
requirements, and work from that, as every comparison I'm aware of is
woefully out of date. You may want to start here for a list to work
from:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/comparison.html
Because everyone else
Is there a way to increase the spacing between the bottom line of the
table, and the text in a table footnote? My text appears to be right up
against the bottom of the table, and nothing I've tried can get it to
move.
-Carla
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DOH!
Thank you! I should have known that...
Problem solved.
Carla
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Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: fram...@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Table footnotes
I second Art's suggestion on duplicate graphic folders for each
language, with localized files named the same as the originals. It's
exactly what we do with our translations. (We translate into 30
languages).
-Carla
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Forsooth, and if thy language dost ne'er evolv'd, henceforth thee
wouldst speaketh as the ancient Bard. Verily, the words of man must
changeth and groweth as the seasons change -- looketh upon all the
wordings which the Bard hast introduc'd into our speech. Woulds't thou
changeth all that?
-Carla
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:31 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English
Forsooth, and if thy
As a follow-up for fun on a Friday on Framers... (I love alliteration!)
http://www.william-shakespeare.org.uk/a2-shakespeare-insult-generator.ht
m
http://www.talklikeshakespeare.org/
-Carla
Somewhere I'm sure someone has used FrameMaker to publish the words of
the Bard at some point, so
I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a
current document.
Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of
the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've
got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2
Thanks.
Fred Berny's explanations remind me why I quit using table footnotes
years ago, and rewriting the documentation to avoid them.
Now I gotta fix these... Grrr Several tables in several files.
-Carla
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Nancy -
Another option is the shrinkwrap plugin, found here:
http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html
-Carla
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I notice that the online archive and the emails I've received all stop
at Thursday, Aug. 6th...
Did I missing something, or has everyone just been *really* quiet for
six days?
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Fred -
Do you have FrameScript? We had the same problem, and I have a script that
someone sent me that opens all the files in the book, updates the xrefs, and
closes them. Gets rid of the black/blue issue.
I wish I could remember who provided the script - but they didn't comment their
info
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First of all, it groups all fonts of the same family together. For example,
all Arial is listed as one font, but if you click on that font, it opens a
window showing all the styles. For some Adobe font families, you might see
thirty-something typefaces that way and
Seriously. :) If you're interested in helping me out, contact me OFF LIST.
We've been wanting to convert our content to DITA for a couple of years now.
This is one of my spare-time projects - and of course I never have any spare
time because we have three fewer people than we did three years
Thanks to all who responded (and there were several - this is the BEST list!)
I'm going to take a look at what we have and talk with a few people, and go
from there.
-Carla
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Is anyone on the list familiar with PLM Publisher
(www.sinteg.chhttp://www.sinteg.ch)? I'm looking for feedback of any kind.
Their brochure for their FrameMaker product (they also do Quicksilver and
InDesign versions):
Happening on multiple books, multiple systems.
Win XP - 32 and 64 bit systems
Frame 9.0p250
Trying to open the book and it crashes.
Error from the 64 bit system is:
Error: 9004, 5242025, 5220528, 6335630
Error from the 32 bit system is:
Internal Error: 9004, 5242201, 5220704, 6335918
The
I stand corrected I was on p250, the 64-bit user is on p255.
So it's on both patches that we had trouble. And yes, the first thing I did was
go to the forums.
-Carla
(who just updated hers...)
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A couple of us here at work are experiencing repeated Frame 10 crashes and file
corruptions while doing *simple* tasks. It so bad that one writer is
considering saving all of her work back down to FM9 format and returning to
that.
Are others having the same problem?
We're on WinXP SP3 with
are legacy files that were updated from FM9 files.
Some files have been MIF-washed in FM10, but not all.
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From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:34 PM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: Frame 10 crashes and corruption
I've got a FM10 book... up until very recently, we avoided using Groups or
Folders in the book file because we needed to use the Archive plugin, which
wasn't compatible. Rick Quatro's new script takes care of that problem, so I
grouped files for my 500+ file programming guide to make life
We reference all graphics into our documents. Currently we have a
couple of thousand graphics stored centrally in the same folder
location. While it can be a bit cumbersome to maintain that many
graphics in the same folder, it ends up helping us in the long run
because if a graphic is updated, it
Back in Dec. 2004, I brought this topic up. Doug B. sent me a DLL
(ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll). This allows you to use the Esc m p command, but
the anchored frame will stay as it was originally set.
I won't redistribute the DLL without permission, but I've copied Doug at
the email I had for him from
We also use cross-references to create our mini-TOCs (chapter TOCs).
To verify that all H1 and H2 headings have been included, I check the
mini-TOC against the bookmarks in the PDF as I'm reviewing it.
-Carla
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Oh, the memories this thread is dragging up!
1984... Fortran on a Univac 1100-80. Luckily, my class was the first
year that DIDN'T have to use punch cards (thank heavens for small
favors!) Of course, running that final exam program and having it crash
part way through (BUT IT WORKED THE LAST
I've been working on a .dot form for management reporting in MS Word
(yes, I feel unclean!)
I'd like to insert a graphic (question mark) that provides a pop-up
window with some instructions when moused over in the .doc file. Is
this something that can be done in Word?
Word2003
WinXP OS
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So could you. Wanna know the number of companies that think I live at
123 Main St and with a phone number of 212-555-1212?
And hence the reason that I have a dozen or more disposable emails.
Yahoo mail has a feature called AddressGuard where I create a separate
email
Gillian -
Create an import from document for each customer that has the
variables set for product names, part numbers, conditional text
settings, etc.
To switch from Customer A to Customer B, just import the settings from
the appropriate document.
If you need to make the document look different
If you need to send a complete Framemaker file and all of its graphics,
I recommend using the Archive plugin.
http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.htm
It makes a self-contained copy of all Frame files and associated
graphics, which you can then zip together and mail or ftp.
Carla
I send docs with up to 50 conditional tags to my translation companies.
Any conditions that are set to 'show' within the Frame file when it is
prepared as .mif are made available for translation through S-Tagger.
If you have a translation vendor who is telling you that you cannot use
Welcome to September. A couple of months ago Adobe teased us and
specified an August release of a Framemaker update that included a new
DITA menu.
Has anyone heard anything? Not that I'm surprised that the promised
time has come and gone with nary a whisper from Adobe, but perhaps
someone else
Hmm... LavaCon in Hawai'i is a good option. :-) http://www.lavacon.org/
I seriously thought about extending my vacation to stay for the conference this
year (my last day in Hawai'i was the first day of the conference earlier this
month).
Also one of the Frame Chatauquas or DITA 2007 would be
Here's a question: can I change what text shows in the bookmarks when
the PDF generates?
In our programming code documentation, they want the code on the first
line, and the explanation/title on the second line.
^CM
Change Memory Letter Designation
Description...
Format...
It's
http://www.intech.com/solutions/trackchanges/
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There are multiple ways you can do this:
FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com/)
There is a free script available called ChangePgfFormat.fsl, but you
need to pay for FrameScript. However, there's a lot of other things you
can do with FrameScript, so it is definitely worth a look.
Getting Frame to work in Arabic involves hacking the registry, among
other things. I don't know the specific details that my translators
used, but it was fairly complex and troublesome. They use it for some
small (1-2 pages) items that we need done, but for anything longer they
convert it to
Work with a translation vendor that uses Trados (now part of SDL), and
specifically the X-Translate module. Content that is a 100% match is
not touched at all, resulting in reduced costs. You pay only for
translations on the new content, and DTP/QA time for the entire book. I
currently do this
Summary of the problem and solution:
1. I used a Framescript to change all text tagged with OLDTAG
to being tagged with NEWTAG. No text in any of the files is
tagged with OLDTAG at this time.
2. As the condition OLDTAG still existed in each file, I deleted
that unused
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:39 AM
To: 'Alan T Litchfield'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Need to get my FM11 styles under control
Ignore previous email... (responding to Rick's question)
We're looking at TCS4, trying to output one of our manuals using the default
Multiscreen HTML5 output targets.
I did this successfully once... but now with the exact same document, its
crashing with the following error:
RoboHelp command
Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?
We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for
applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's
a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.
For
Syed -
I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.)
We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked
at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it
made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet..
back
...@gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:29 PM
To: Martinek, Carla; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract
for FrameMaker?
What new multi-HTML output? The only thing I find in the what's new in FM
11 doc
Looking at the FAQs for TCS4 Subscription model...
If we go with the subscription option, and an individual application in the
suite (Illustrator, for example) has a major dot release a few months before
TCS, would we receive the dot release, or have to wait until TCS does its dot
release?
Ok, I've been trying to find this answer in the RoboHelp and FrameMaker help
all morning, and not having any luck, so I'll throw it out to the group. It's
been a decade-plus since I worked in RoboHelp, so don't remember much. My
source content is in FM11.
I know what I want to do, just not how
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 11/RH10 Multiscreen HTML Output - making changes to the default
Desktop output
Ok, I've been trying
My alma mater, Michigan Technological University, offers an
undergraduate in Scientific and Technical Communication (which is what I
majored in many years ago...) and a Masters in Rhetoric and Technical
Communication.
See http://www.hu.mtu.edu/
Minnesota State University @ Mankato offers both a
On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:45 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Technical Writing Certificate
My alma mater, Michigan Technological University, offers an
undergraduate in Scientific and Technical Communication (which is what I
majored in many
Not an option, as far as I know. Instead, I would create two separate
index markers and conditionalize them.
Use of a plugin such as MarkerWorker might help you in maintaining the
content of markers like this.
-Carla
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
The other option is that if you are an STC member, you have access to
their academic database.
http://www.stc.org/academic/index.aspx
You can search by type of degree, state/location, and online offerings.
39 institutions listed on the STC database offer online degrees or
certificates.
-Carla
You need to come up with a matrix of YOUR specific documentation
requirements, and work from that, as every comparison I'm aware of is
woefully out of date. You may want to start here for a list to work
from:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/comparison.html
"Because everyone
Is there a way to increase the spacing between the bottom line of the
table, and the text in a table footnote? My text appears to be right up
against the bottom of the table, and nothing I've tried can get it to
move.
-Carla
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<DOH!>
Thank you! I should have known that...
Problem solved.
Carla
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From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re:
I second Art's suggestion on duplicate graphic folders for each
language, with localized files named the same as the originals. It's
exactly what we do with our translations. (We translate into 30
languages).
-Carla
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Forsooth, and if thy language dost ne'er evolv'd, henceforth thee
wouldst speaketh as the ancient Bard. Verily, the words of man must
changeth and groweth as the seasons change -- looketh upon all the
wordings which the Bard hast introduc'd into our speech. Woulds't thou
changeth all that?
-Carla
.
-Carla
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:31 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Today's exercise in misunderstanding English
As a follow-up for fun on a Friday on Framers... (I love alliteration!)
http://www.william-shakespeare.org.uk/a2-shakespeare-insult-generator.ht
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http://www.talklikeshakespeare.org/
-Carla
Somewhere I'm sure someone has used FrameMaker to publish the words of
the Bard at some point, so there's
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