RE: converting text insets to text disassociated the headings
Richard, Thanks for the detailed information. I tried your method with a test file and it works! On the original file I had tried to insert the extra body space tags after the insets had been imported. It seemed to work (showed up when displaying all text symbols), but apparently was not good enough. This workaround will suffice. Still seems like a major bug that FM needs to fix once and for all. Thank you again. Colleen --- Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colleen wrote: Yes, I tried adding an extra body tag between the end of the text inset and the next heading. It made no difference. I went back and looked at the original description, and I'm still not sure I understand the setup. Are you working with View Text Symbols turned off? Turn it on; that'll help you see what's going on. Of necessity, a text inset sits entirely within a paragraph in the flow into which you imported it. This isn't obvious (especially if text symbols are off) because the content of the inset is at least one complete paragraph, so it looks like it sits *above* the pgf that contains it instead of *inside* it. Assume that H1 and /H1 mark the beginning and end of the 1st heading pgf, Inset1 and /Inset1 mark the beginning and end of the 1st inset, etc. Here's what your text flow _should_ look like: H1First heading text/H1 Body1Inset1One or more pgfs making up inset. (Note that no matter how many pgfs there are, they're all contained inside the single container pgf, which they look like they're above.)/Inset1 /Body1 H2Second heading text/H2 Body2Inset2One or more pgfs making up inset/Inset2 /Body2 H3Third heading text/H3 Body3Inset3One or more pgfs making up inset/Inset3 /Body3 I'm guessing you've got each text inset sitting at the beginning of the following heading -- something like this (omitting spacing 'cause this is long enough g): H1First heading text/H1 H2Inset1One or more pgfs making up inset/Inset1 Second heading text/H2 ... etc. ... Or maybe all the insets are in one Heading pgf? H1First heading text Inset1One or more pgfs making up inset/Inset1 Second heading text Inset2One or more pgfs making up inset/Inset2 Third heading text Inset3One or more pgfs making up inset/Inset3 /H1 HTH! If you look at your doc with text symbols visible, maybe you can figure out what's going on from these examples. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has an odd suffix
Hi Framers: I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using FM7.2. Whenever I open/modify and save a file now I get the following message. 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but FrameMaker cannot rename it to have the correct name. The newer version has an odd suffix.' FM is creating suffixes like: .2A8, 3D7 etc. NOTE: I am not renaming the file, I am just making normal modifications to content and trying to save it. Anyone know what's going on? This is a pain in butt! Thanks in advance! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has an odd suffix
More info on this issue. After much frustration, I tried a few things and have learned that this issue only happens when I am accessing the files from our network server. I tested this by creating a new test book on the server and adding a few chapters to it. Same problem. I then copied the test book directory to my local hard drive and had no problem. I was immediately able to save each chapter. At this point, bottom line is I cannot save any files when i am accessing them from the network server. I continuously get the below error message. Also I tried using both FM 6.0 and 7.2. I have the same problem with both, so it's not an FM version issue. I have not worked on these files in about 6 months, but the path to them has not changed as they have many text insets. I cannot imagine what would have changed on our network to cause this. Anyone have any idea? My concern is moving the files because of the high number of text insets with x-ref's! --- The red fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers: I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using FM7.2. Whenever I open/modify and save a file now I get the following message. 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but FrameMaker cannot rename it to have the correct name. The newer version has an odd suffix.' FM is creating suffixes like: .2A8, 3D7 etc. NOTE: I am not renaming the file, I am just making normal modifications to content and trying to save it. Anyone know what's going on? This is a pain in butt! Thanks in advance! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: More...Error message: can't save FM files-FM adding odd suffix to file
Hi Framers, FYI, it turns out this problem had to do with a new version of the antivirus SW we use combined with OS on our file servers. Note, not all files servers had this problem (Windows OS did NOT). Thanks to everyone who had suggestions. One person (can't recall who)-suggested this immediately. Thanks again. Colleen --- Sharon Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have write access on the network drive? Sounds like you don't... sharon Sharon Burton CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting 951-369-8590 www.anthrobytes.com Immediate Past President of IESTC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The red fox Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:12 PM To: Framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has anodd suffix More info on this issue. After much frustration, I tried a few things and have learned that this issue only happens when I am accessing the files from our network server. I tested this by creating a new test book on the server and adding a few chapters to it. Same problem. I then copied the test book directory to my local hard drive and had no problem. I was immediately able to save each chapter. At this point, bottom line is I cannot save any files when i am accessing them from the network server. I continuously get the below error message. Also I tried using both FM 6.0 and 7.2. I have the same problem with both, so it's not an FM version issue. I have not worked on these files in about 6 months, but the path to them has not changed as they have many text insets. I cannot imagine what would have changed on our network to cause this. Anyone have any idea? My concern is moving the files because of the high number of text insets with x-ref's! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has an odd suffix
Hi Framers: I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using FM7.2. Whenever I open/modify and save a file now I get the following message. 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but FrameMaker cannot rename it to have the correct name. The newer version has an odd suffix.' FM is creating suffixes like: .2A8, 3D7 etc. NOTE: I am not renaming the file, I am just making normal modifications to content and trying to save it. Anyone know what's going on? This is a pain in butt! Thanks in advance! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Can't save 7.2 file-trying to rename it and adding odd prefix
Hi Framers: I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using FM7.2. Whenever I open/modify and save a file now, I get the following error message. 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but FrameMaker cannot rename it to have the correct name. The newer version has an odd suffix.' FM is creating suffixes like: fm.2A8, fm.3D7 etc. NOTE: I am not renaming the file, I am simply open it, change a few content items and try to save. I have noticed that as soon as I open the document, it has an * at the bottom indicating something has already been changed. Note many of these files have been opened in 7.2 previously with no issue. Anyone know what's going on? This is a pain in butt! Thanks in advance, Colleen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has an odd suffix
More info on this issue. After much frustration, I tried a few things and have learned that this issue only happens when I am accessing the files from our network server. I tested this by creating a new test book on the server and adding a few chapters to it. Same problem. I then copied the test book directory to my local hard drive and had no problem. I was immediately able to save each chapter. At this point, bottom line is I cannot save any files when i am accessing them from the network server. I continuously get the below error message. Also I tried using both FM 6.0 and 7.2. I have the same problem with both, so it's not an FM version issue. I have not worked on these files in about 6 months, but the path to them has not changed as they have many text insets. I cannot imagine what would have changed on our network to cause this. Anyone have any idea? My concern is moving the files because of the high number of text insets with x-ref's! --- The red fox wrote: > Hi Framers: > > I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using > FM7.2. > Whenever I open/modify and save a file now I get > the > following message. > > 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but > FrameMaker cannot rename it to have the correct > name. > The newer version has an odd suffix.' > > FM is creating suffixes like: .2A8, 3D7 etc. > NOTE: > I am not renaming the file, I am just making normal > modifications to content and trying to save it. > > Anyone know what's going on? This is a pain in > butt! > > Thanks in advance! > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
converting text insets to text disassociated the headings
Hello Framers, I have numerous files with many text insets. Because these files are shared among numerous people, at times we need to save the file and convert all the insets to text (by selecting a single inset and then selecting 'convert all'). When when we do this, the headings become disassociated from the inset text. The files are set up as: Heading 1 Text inset Heading 1 Text inset Heading 1 Text inset After converting to text we end up with: Text inset Text inset Text inset Heading 1 Heading 1 Heading 1 Note: If I convert the insets individually, it works fine, but I'd like to avoid having to do that. Also note that when I select the inset the heading number for the next heading gets select, not the title of the next heading, just the number of the heading. Do I need some special character inserted somewhere? Has anyone seen this before? Thanks in advance, Colleen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
converting text insets to text disassociated the headings
Yes, I tried adding an extra body tag between the end of the text inset and the next heading. It made no difference. Colleen --- Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 08:24 -0700 21/7/06, The red fox wrote: > > >Do I need some special character inserted > somewhere? > > Do you have at least one blank para between each > text inset? There are some long-standing bugs with > FrameMaker that can cause unpredictable behavior > when text insets are 'stacked' back to back. > -- > Steve > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
converting text insets to text disassociated the headings
Richard, Thanks for the detailed information. I tried your method with a test file and it works! On the original file I had tried to insert the extra body space tags after the insets had been imported. It seemed to work (showed up when displaying all text symbols), but apparently was not good enough. This workaround will suffice. Still seems like a major bug that FM needs to fix once and for all. Thank you again. Colleen --- "Combs, Richard" wrote: > Colleen wrote: > > > Yes, I tried adding an extra body tag between the > end of the > > text inset and the next heading. It made no > difference. > > I went back and looked at the original description, > and I'm still not > sure I understand the setup. Are you working with > View > Text Symbols > turned off? Turn it on; that'll help you see what's > going on. > > Of necessity, a text inset sits entirely within a > paragraph in the flow > into which you imported it. This isn't obvious > (especially if text > symbols are off) because the content of the inset is > at least one > complete paragraph, so it looks like it sits *above* > the pgf that > contains it instead of *inside* it. > > Assume that "" and "" mark the beginning > and end of the 1st > heading pgf, "" and "" mark the > beginning and end of > the 1st inset, etc. Here's what your text flow > _should_ look like: > > First heading text > > One or more pgfs making up inset. > (Note that no matter how many pgfs there are, > they're all contained inside the single container > pgf, > which they look like they're above.) > > > Second heading text > > One or more pgfs making up > inset > > > Third heading text > > One or more pgfs making up > inset > > > I'm guessing you've got each text inset sitting at > the beginning of the > following heading -- something like this (omitting > spacing 'cause this > is long enough ): > > First heading text > One or more pgfs making up > inset > Second heading text > ... etc. ... > > Or maybe all the insets are in one Heading pgf? > > First heading text > One or more pgfs making up inset > Second heading text > One or more pgfs making up inset> > Third heading text > One or more pgfs making up inset> > > > HTH! If you look at your doc with text symbols > visible, maybe you can > figure out what's going on from these examples. > > Richard > > > -- > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
More...Error message: can't save FM files-FM adding odd suffix to file
Hi Framers, FYI, it turns out this problem had to do with a new version of the antivirus SW we use combined with OS on our file servers. Note, not all files servers had this problem (Windows OS did NOT). Thanks to everyone who had suggestions. One person (can't recall who)-suggested this immediately. Thanks again. Colleen --- Sharon Burton wrote: > Do you have write access on the network drive? > Sounds like you don't... > > > sharon > > Sharon Burton > CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting > 951-369-8590 > www.anthrobytes.com > Immediate Past President of IESTC > > -Original Message- > From: > framers-bounces+sharon=anthrobytes.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+sharon=anthrobytes.com at lists.frameusers.com]On > Behalf Of The red fox > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:12 PM > To: Framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: More...Error message: can't rename file. > The newer version has > anodd suffix > > > More info on this issue. > > After much frustration, I tried a few things and > have > learned that this issue only happens when I am > accessing the files from our network server. I > tested > this by creating a new test book on the server and > adding a few chapters to it. Same problem. I then > copied the test book directory to my local hard > drive > and had no problem. I was immediately able to save > each chapter. > > At this point, bottom line is I cannot save any > files > when i am accessing them from the network server. I > continuously get the below error message. > > Also I tried using both FM 6.0 and 7.2. I have the > same problem with both, so it's not an FM version > issue. > > I have not worked on these files in about 6 months, > but the path to them has not changed as they have > many > text insets. > > I cannot imagine what would have changed on our > network to cause this. Anyone have any idea? > > My concern is moving the files because of the high > number of text insets with x-ref's! > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
