transparent background graphics
Hi Matt, You wrote: >Are you saying that FrameMaker will have problems producing print and PDF >with a .psd that contains transparency? Yes. In addition to the PSD transparency not being handled as expected, a solid white rectangle is present underneath the image. Shlomo >-Original Message- >From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets >Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:07 AM >To: Ken Poshedly >Cc: Framers at frameusers.com >Subject: Re: transparent background graphics > >Ken, > >You wrote: > > >... I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so > >that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF > >file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > >checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company >name. > > > >But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away > >from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just > >my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > > > >What to do? Please advise. > >FrameMaker does not support transparency in bitmaps when producing >print/PDFs. The best workaround is probably to have a single consolidated >image for the entire cover, and include that in FrameMaker. > >[ Somewhat related: I recently implemented support for color masking in >images which are placed in layers through hypertext markers with >FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Presentation Assistant -- see sample PDF >at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentBgnd.pdf . >Support for image insertion through hypertext marker was added as a >workaround for another problem... FrameMaker places a solid white rectangle >underneath images in the PS/PDF it produces, which obscured items in PDF >layers. ] > > >Shlomo Perets > >MicroType, http://www.microtype.com >FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat >TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat >courses > > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as matt at grafixtraining.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co >m > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: transparent background graphics
Hi Matt, You wrote: >Are you saying that FrameMaker will have problems producing print and PDF >with a .psd that contains transparency? Yes. In addition to the PSD transparency not being handled as expected, a solid white rectangle is present underneath the image. Shlomo >-Original Message- >From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com >[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets >Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:07 AM >To: Ken Poshedly >Cc: fram...@frameusers.com >Subject: Re: transparent background graphics > >Ken, > >You wrote: > > >... I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so > >that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF > >file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > >checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company >name. > > > >But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away > >from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just > >my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > > > >What to do? Please advise. > >FrameMaker does not support transparency in bitmaps when producing >print/PDFs. The best workaround is probably to have a single consolidated >image for the entire cover, and include that in FrameMaker. > >[ Somewhat related: I recently implemented support for color masking in >images which are placed in layers through hypertext markers with >FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Presentation Assistant -- see sample PDF >at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentBgnd.pdf . >Support for image insertion through hypertext marker was added as a >workaround for another problem... FrameMaker places a solid white rectangle >underneath images in the PS/PDF it produces, which obscured items in PDF >layers. ] > > >Shlomo Perets > >MicroType, http://www.microtype.com >FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat >TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat >courses > > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. > >Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co >m > >Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
Ken, You wrote: >... I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's >another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file >graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a >checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. > >But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep >away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's >just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > >What to do? Please advise. FrameMaker does not support transparency in bitmaps when producing print/PDFs. The best workaround is probably to have a single consolidated image for the entire cover, and include that in FrameMaker. [ Somewhat related: I recently implemented support for color masking in images which are placed in layers through hypertext markers with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Presentation Assistant -- see sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentBgnd.pdf . Support for image insertion through hypertext marker was added as a workaround for another problem... FrameMaker places a solid white rectangle underneath images in the PS/PDF it produces, which obscured items in PDF layers. ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses
transparent background graphics
Hi Ken, It's not very difficult to get images with transparent background in FrameMaker. What you have to do: o Only if you have a raster image: Create a mask in Photoshop/ Corel PhotoPaint/Paintshop Pro. Everything outside of the mask will be transparent in the final PDF file. o Save the image (raster or vector) as EPS. o Import the image in FrameMaker. o Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" (via the tools palette). o Create a PDF file. That's it. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Ken Poshedly > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:42 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: transparent background graphics > > Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC > generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't > happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some > reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) > coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some > of these files were opened. > > After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and > re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. > > But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned > me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator > manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I > researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of > the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know > how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. > Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they > never had a tech writer here before.) > > So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up > against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a > supposedly transparent background that still displays a white > background. > > My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, > using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) > and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). > Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very > differently there and are very slow at responding. > > I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's > another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file > graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > checkered background) but only the red logo and > black-lettered company name. > > But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep > away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's > just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% > grey cover. > > What to do? Please advise. > > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
transparent background graphics
> It's not very difficult to get images with transparent background > in FrameMaker. What you have to do: > o Only if you have a raster image: Create a mask in Photoshop/ > Corel PhotoPaint/Paintshop Pro. Everything outside of the mask > will be transparent in the final PDF file. > o Save the image (raster or vector) as EPS. > o Import the image in FrameMaker. > o Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" (via the tools palette). > o Create a PDF file. Just an addition to Winfried's fine message. It's not just a mask you want to create, it's a clipping mask. Search Photoshop help for "clipping mask" for more information. You may also want to search for "clipping path." Mike Wickham
RE: transparent background graphics
But FM will place a .psd... A clipping mask will create a smooth, but hard edge. Is anyone having problems with .psd's containing layer masks or vector masks (resulting in a soft edge)or other layer transparency? -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell & text 714 585-2335 SMS message 7145852...@vtext.com skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:09 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: transparent background graphics > It's not very difficult to get images with transparent background in > FrameMaker. What you have to do: > o Only if you have a raster image: Create a mask in Photoshop/ Corel > PhotoPaint/Paintshop Pro. Everything outside of the mask will be > transparent in the final PDF file. > o Save the image (raster or vector) as EPS. > o Import the image in FrameMaker. > o Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" (via the tools palette). > o Create a PDF file. Just an addition to Winfried's fine message. It's not just a mask you want to create, it's a clipping mask. Search Photoshop help for "clipping mask" for more information. You may also want to search for "clipping path." Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
But FM will place a .psd... A clipping mask will create a smooth, but hard edge. Is anyone having problems with .psd's containing layer masks or vector masks (resulting in a soft edge)or other layer transparency? -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training matt at roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell & text 714 585-2335 SMS message 7145852335 at vtext.com skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:09 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: transparent background graphics > It's not very difficult to get images with transparent background in > FrameMaker. What you have to do: > o Only if you have a raster image: Create a mask in Photoshop/ Corel > PhotoPaint/Paintshop Pro. Everything outside of the mask will be > transparent in the final PDF file. > o Save the image (raster or vector) as EPS. > o Import the image in FrameMaker. > o Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" (via the tools palette). > o Create a PDF file. Just an addition to Winfried's fine message. It's not just a mask you want to create, it's a clipping mask. Search Photoshop help for "clipping mask" for more information. You may also want to search for "clipping path." Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as matt at grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: transparent background graphics
> It's not very difficult to get images with transparent background > in FrameMaker. What you have to do: > o Only if you have a raster image: Create a mask in Photoshop/ > Corel PhotoPaint/Paintshop Pro. Everything outside of the mask > will be transparent in the final PDF file. > o Save the image (raster or vector) as EPS. > o Import the image in FrameMaker. > o Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" (via the tools palette). > o Create a PDF file. Just an addition to Winfried's fine message. It's not just a mask you want to create, it's a clipping mask. Search Photoshop help for "clipping mask" for more information. You may also want to search for "clipping path." Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: transparent background graphics
I built the same sort of cover recently. It took some doing to figure it out. Frame Help was less than helpful. I am using Frame 9 (Virtual Windows XP on a Mac), so I don't know if this is supported in earlier versions, but my EPS graphic with transparency floats quite nicely over my cover background graphics, which are in PNG. (I had no luck with GIF or PNG formats, which also support transparency, but not in Frame.) The EPS should come with at TIF preview--a grainy b/w representation of the graphic. You can place that. It doesn't look good on the screen, but it PDFs nicely. The biggest problem with EPS is that it makes your files bigger. The cover alone accounts for half the size of my PDF for a 40-page document. Jenny On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC > generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't > happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some > reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) > coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some > of these files were opened. > > After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and > re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. > > But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned > me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator > manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I > researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of > the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know > how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. > Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they > never had a tech writer here before.) > > So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up > against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a > supposedly transparent background that still displays a white > background. > > My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, > using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) > and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). > Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very > differently there and are very slow at responding. > > I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's > another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file > graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered > company name. > > But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep > away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's > just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey > cover. > > What to do? Please advise. > > -- Kenpo in Atlanta > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jgreenl...@mac.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
I built the same sort of cover recently. It took some doing to figure it out. Frame Help was less than helpful. I am using Frame 9 (Virtual Windows XP on a Mac), so I don't know if this is supported in earlier versions, but my EPS graphic with transparency floats quite nicely over my cover background graphics, which are in PNG. (I had no luck with GIF or PNG formats, which also support transparency, but not in Frame.) The EPS should come with at TIF preview--a grainy b/w representation of the graphic. You can place that. It doesn't look good on the screen, but it PDFs nicely. The biggest problem with EPS is that it makes your files bigger. The cover alone accounts for half the size of my PDF for a 40-page document. Jenny On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC > generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't > happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some > reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) > coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some > of these files were opened. > > After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and > re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. > > But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned > me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator > manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I > researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of > the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know > how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. > Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they > never had a tech writer here before.) > > So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up > against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a > supposedly transparent background that still displays a white > background. > > My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, > using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) > and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). > Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very > differently there and are very slow at responding. > > I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's > another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file > graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered > company name. > > But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep > away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's > just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey > cover. > > What to do? Please advise. > > -- Kenpo in Atlanta > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jgreenleaf at mac.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
FM, in general, doesn't support transparency very well. In FM, do you have the properties of the graphic and of the frame that holds it set so that Fill = None? P.S. posting your configuration data with each question would be helpful... Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC > generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't > happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some > reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) > coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some > of these files were opened. > > After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and > re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. > > But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned > me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator > manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I > researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of > the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know > how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. > Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they > never had a tech writer here before.) > > So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up > against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a > supposedly transparent background that still displays a white background. > > My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, > using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) > and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). > Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very > differently there and are very slow at responding. > > I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's > another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file > graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. > > But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep > away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's > just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > > What to do? Please advise. > > -- Kenpo in Atlanta > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
RE: transparent background graphics
Hi Shlomo, Are you saying that FrameMaker will have problems producing print and PDF with a .psd that contains transparency? -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell & text 714 585-2335 SMS message 7145852...@vtext.com skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: Ken Poshedly Cc: fram...@frameusers.com Subject: Re: transparent background graphics Ken, You wrote: >... I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so >that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF >file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a >checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. > >But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away >from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just >my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > >What to do? Please advise. FrameMaker does not support transparency in bitmaps when producing print/PDFs. The best workaround is probably to have a single consolidated image for the entire cover, and include that in FrameMaker. [ Somewhat related: I recently implemented support for color masking in images which are placed in layers through hypertext markers with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Presentation Assistant -- see sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentBgnd.pdf . Support for image insertion through hypertext marker was added as a workaround for another problem... FrameMaker places a solid white rectangle underneath images in the PS/PDF it produces, which obscured items in PDF layers. ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
Hi Shlomo, Are you saying that FrameMaker will have problems producing print and PDF with a .psd that contains transparency? -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training matt at roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell & text 714 585-2335 SMS message 7145852335 at vtext.com skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: Ken Poshedly Cc: Framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: transparent background graphics Ken, You wrote: >... I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so >that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF >file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a >checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. > >But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away >from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just >my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > >What to do? Please advise. FrameMaker does not support transparency in bitmaps when producing print/PDFs. The best workaround is probably to have a single consolidated image for the entire cover, and include that in FrameMaker. [ Somewhat related: I recently implemented support for color masking in images which are placed in layers through hypertext markers with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Presentation Assistant -- see sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentBgnd.pdf . Support for image insertion through hypertext marker was added as a workaround for another problem... FrameMaker places a solid white rectangle underneath images in the PS/PDF it produces, which obscured items in PDF layers. ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as matt at grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: transparent background graphics
Hi Ken, It's not very difficult to get images with transparent background in FrameMaker. What you have to do: o Only if you have a raster image: Create a mask in Photoshop/ Corel PhotoPaint/Paintshop Pro. Everything outside of the mask will be transparent in the final PDF file. o Save the image (raster or vector) as EPS. o Import the image in FrameMaker. o Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" (via the tools palette). o Create a PDF file. That's it. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Ken Poshedly > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:42 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: transparent background graphics > > Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC > generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't > happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some > reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) > coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some > of these files were opened. > > After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and > re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. > > But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned > me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator > manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I > researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of > the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know > how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. > Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they > never had a tech writer here before.) > > So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up > against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a > supposedly transparent background that still displays a white > background. > > My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, > using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) > and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). > Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very > differently there and are very slow at responding. > > I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's > another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file > graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > checkered background) but only the red logo and > black-lettered company name. > > But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep > away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's > just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% > grey cover. > > What to do? Please advise. > > -- Kenpo in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: transparent background graphics
Ken, You wrote: >... I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's >another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file >graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a >checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. > >But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep >away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's >just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > >What to do? Please advise. FrameMaker does not support transparency in bitmaps when producing print/PDFs. The best workaround is probably to have a single consolidated image for the entire cover, and include that in FrameMaker. [ Somewhat related: I recently implemented support for color masking in images which are placed in layers through hypertext markers with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Presentation Assistant -- see sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentBgnd.pdf . Support for image insertion through hypertext marker was added as a workaround for another problem... FrameMaker places a solid white rectangle underneath images in the PS/PDF it produces, which obscured items in PDF layers. ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
Ken The graphics need to be .EPS as well in my experience of doing this. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swhite at alamark.com On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > FM, in general, doesn't support transparency very well. > In FM, do you have the properties of the graphic and of the frame that > holds it set so that Fill = None? > > P.S. posting your configuration data with each question would be > helpful... > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers > apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ken Poshedly > wrote: >> Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC >> generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't >> happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some >> reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) >> coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some >> of these files were opened. >> >> After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and >> re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. >> >> But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned >> me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator >> manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I >> researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of >> the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know >> how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. >> Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they >> never had a tech writer here before.) >> >> So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up >> against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a >> supposedly transparent background that still displays a white >> background. >> >> My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, >> using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) >> and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). >> Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very >> differently there and are very slow at responding. >> >> I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's >> another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file >> graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a >> checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered >> company name. >> >> But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep >> away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's >> just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey >> cover. >> >> What to do? Please advise. >> >> -- Kenpo in Atlanta >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swhite at alamark.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Re: transparent background graphics
Do you really require having the cover as a Frame document? Is there some additional content (title text, revision date, etc.) that can only be handled in Frame? I think it is better to create the cover as a PDF file directly from an illustration program that supports transparency. You can add the text info as appropriate and also should be able to match the background (as a layer) and create a full page image of your cover. I may be naive, but to me, 20% grey should be the same in both the graphic program and in FrameMaker. If you absolutely much have it as a Frame document, you can import the PDF page as an image into a Frame file, probably as a background image on the page rather than in the flow. In this case, you would not add the text info in the illustatration, but can "layer" that in the text frame over the image. Also this image would replace the default 20% grey fill background. – Les Smalley --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Ken Poshedly wrote: But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator manual (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they never had a tech writer here before.) So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a supposedly transparent background that still displays a white background. My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very differently there and are very slow at responding. I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. What to do? Please advise. -- Kenpo in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
Do you really require having the cover as a Frame document?? Is there some additional content (title text, revision date, etc.) that can only be handled in Frame? I think it is better to create the cover as a PDF file directly from an illustration program that supports transparency.? You can add the text info as appropriate and also should be able to match the background (as a layer) and create a full page image of your cover.?? I may be naive, but to me, 20% grey should be the same in both the graphic program and in FrameMaker. If you absolutely much have it as a Frame document, you can import the PDF page as an image into a Frame file, probably as a background image on the page rather than in the flow.? In this case, you would not add the text info in the illustatration, but can "layer" that in the text frame over the image.? Also this image would replace the default 20% grey fill background. ? Les Smalley --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Ken Poshedly wrote: But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator manual (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they never had a tech writer here before.) So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a supposedly transparent background that still displays a white background. My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have).? Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very differently there and are very slow at responding. I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. What to do? Please advise. -- Kenpo in Atlanta
Re: transparent background graphics
Ken The graphics need to be .EPS as well in my experience of doing this. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > FM, in general, doesn't support transparency very well. > In FM, do you have the properties of the graphic and of the frame that > holds it set so that Fill = None? > > P.S. posting your configuration data with each question would be > helpful... > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers > apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ken Poshedly > wrote: >> Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC >> generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't >> happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some >> reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) >> coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some >> of these files were opened. >> >> After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and >> re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. >> >> But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned >> me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator >> manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I >> researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of >> the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know >> how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. >> Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they >> never had a tech writer here before.) >> >> So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up >> against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a >> supposedly transparent background that still displays a white >> background. >> >> My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, >> using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) >> and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). >> Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very >> differently there and are very slow at responding. >> >> I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's >> another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file >> graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a >> checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered >> company name. >> >> But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep >> away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's >> just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey >> cover. >> >> What to do? Please advise. >> >> -- Kenpo in Atlanta >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swh...@alamark.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: transparent background graphics
FM, in general, doesn't support transparency very well. In FM, do you have the properties of the graphic and of the frame that holds it set so that Fill = None? P.S. posting your configuration data with each question would be helpful... Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC > generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't > happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some > reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) > coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some > of these files were opened. > > After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and > re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. > > But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned > me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator > manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I > researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of > the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know > how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. > Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they > never had a tech writer here before.) > > So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up > against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a > supposedly transparent background that still displays a white background. > > My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, > using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) > and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). > Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very > differently there and are very slow at responding. > > I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's > another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file > graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a > checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. > > But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep > away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's > just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. > > What to do? Please advise. > > -- Kenpo in Atlanta > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
transparent background graphics
Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some of these files were opened. After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they never had a tech writer here before.) So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a supposedly transparent background that still displays a white background. My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very differently there and are very slow at responding. I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. What to do? Please advise. -- Kenpo in Atlanta
transparent background graphics
Well, first, thanks to all for your tips to help me get a good TOC generated. I'm still working on that one, and while it hasn't happened so far, I did find that several graphics pasted into some reference pages from another document by my (not-so-FrameMaker-savy) coworker resulted in prompts to find the path to them each time some of these files were opened. After I deleted those graphics from the reference pages and re-imported them correctly, no more prompts for them. But that's as far as I got on that because now, my boss has assigned me a more pressing project, a revised cover design for this operator manal (for a hydraulic excavator -- REAL hardware). After I researched and assembled a great-looking cover, he held a meeting of the project engineers (with me included) where those who only know how to engineer started picking at and apart the work I had done. Sheesh! (The cover got lots of kudos before the meeting because they never had a tech writer here before.) So now, I'm trying to modify my cover design, but am running up against a seemingly immovable problem: importing a graphic with a supposedly transparent background that still displays a white background. My "revised cover" is to be slightly grey (perhaps 20% black tint, using FrameMaker). And the company logo with name is in red (logo) and black (company name in a custom font which I don't know or have). Oh, and our home office is in China and they do things very differently there and are very slow at responding. I'm still learning the in's and out's of Paintshop Pro X2, so that's another rocky road, but I think I successfully created a GIF file graphic with "no" background (it displays in Paintshop Pro with a checkered background) but only the red logo and black-lettered company name. But when I import it, the background is white. I'm trying to keep away from creating a GIF file with a 20% grey background because it's just my luck that it probably won't match the FrameMaker 20% grey cover. What to do? Please advise. -- Kenpo in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
