Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

My main monitors are just about 100 (top-of-the-line trailing-edge
1600x1200), but I've used from 65 (huge low-res display some moron
bought scores of)  to 220 (MacBook with Retina display, so basically
equivalent to 110 in normal mode)  in recent years.

LCDs keep getting higher resolution.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Actually, that turns out not to be the case. If you measure the width and
> height of your display and divide your screen resolution by those numbers,
> you're more likely to get a number between 108 and 130 ppi.  (My laptop is
> around 112 and my desktop is around 123.)
>
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2015-Jun-18 6:47 PM, Combs, Richard (CW) wrote:


 Typical monitors display 96 pixels per inch




Actually, that turns out not to be the case. If you measure the width 
and height of your display and divide your screen resolution by those 
numbers, you're more likely to get a number between 108 and 130 ppi.  
(My laptop is around 112 and my desktop is around 123.)


The mythical 96 ppi figure originates in the font size setting used in 
early Microsoft OSs, but even that wasn't related directly to display size.


http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/the-72-ppi-web-resolution-myth/

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

We’re talking about screen captures. Typical monitors display 96 pixels per 
inch, so you’re not “creating” something at 300 dpi. And you never want or need 
to downsample a screen capture.

I’ll repeat myself just one more time. Ignore “resolution.” Just look at the 
pixel dimensions of your screen capture. If it’s 1280 x 800 pixels, make sure 
it remains 1280 x 800 pixels. Period. Divide that 1280-pixel width by the width 
in inches that you want the graphic to take up in FM, and that’s the dpi you 
set at import.

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:32 PM
To: Robert Lauriston
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Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would 
create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it 
automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you import 
into FM since you specify the DPI during import.

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Robert Lauriston 
mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>> wrote:
Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it
just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300
dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell 
mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was
> sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're
> going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

A screen shot doesn't have an intrinsic dpi. It's just a bitmap of a
certain width and height. The image's dpi will vary depending on how
many pixels per inch the screen it's displayed on has.

I'm not sure there's ever a good reason to downsample a screen shot
when you're placing it in FrameMaker and generating PDFs. Just set the
dpi in FrameMaker so that the bitmap is a good size relative to the
page. The PDF will contain the full-resolution image and users can
zoom for more detail.


On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would
> create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it
> automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you
> import into FM since you specify the DPI during import.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Art Campbell]

That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would
create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it
automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you
import into FM since you specify the DPI during import.

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it
> just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300
> dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it.
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell 
> wrote:
> > If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog
> was
> > sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're
> > going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300
> DPI.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it
just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300
dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was
> sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're
> going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Art Campbell]

If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog
was sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're
going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI.

You can always downsample; going up is more problematic.

If you're using Photoshop, which I think you are given your reference to
PSDs, set up an action to resize (if needed using the Save For Web option).
Also, look at Dr. Brown's Image Processor Pro, which will save out to
multiple formats, sizes and resolutions with one click.

AND -- IMPORTANT -- make sure you turn off downsampling graphics when you
create PDFs, or you'll be looking at the same problem again -- grainy fuzzy
jpgs in the PDF.

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:

>  OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should
> keep the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and
> then import it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing
> the import resolution was advisable.
>
>  Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the
> right resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size.
> Do you have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first
> time?
>
>  Tim
>  --
> *From:* Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM
> *To:* Tim Pann; framers
> *Subject:* RE: Importing clear, sharp images
>
>   Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured.
> When you import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make
> them the size you want on the page.
>
>
>
> *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Pann
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM
> *To:* framers
> *Subject:* Importing clear, sharp images
>
>
>
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
>
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing
> PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to
> resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF
> image for one and that didn't help.
>
>
>
> I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of
> my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines
> or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.
>
>
>
> I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No
> idea what's relevant and what's not.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tim
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

PNG is a good choice for all bitmap images. It's lossless (no
degradation) and has a complex compression algorithm that can do a
good job with various kinds of images.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)  wrote:
> I only use PNG with screen captures ... the (older) standard GIF color size 
> (used to be set of 256 colors ... has that changed?) would be way too 
> limiting in most cases (not all).
>
> Any drawn image with gradients - which are not always obvious - or pictures, 
> will result in a poor quality. And, PNG will be far better for these reasons.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

I only use PNG with screen captures ... the (older) standard GIF color size 
(used to be set of 256 colors ... has that changed?) would be way too limiting 
in most cases (not all).

Any drawn image with gradients - which are not always obvious - or pictures, 
will result in a poor quality. And, PNG will be far better for these reasons.

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 AM
To: Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

We use PNG or GIF formats to get the sharpest screen captures. We use PDF for 
all other graphics.

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:36, Robert Lauriston  wrote:
> 
> Are you using File > Import > File > by Reference?
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Tim Pann  wrote:
>> Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not 
>> what I'm seeing on my computer screen.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM
>> To: Tim Pann; framers
>> Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images
>> 
>> Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF.
>> The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your 
>> output PDF, online help, or both?
>> 
>> --
>> Shmuel Wolfson
>> Technical Writer
>> 052-763-7133
>> 
>> On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been 
>> covered and answered.
>> 
>> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's 
>> quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by 
>> reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm 
>> mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user 
>> interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty 
>> choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help.
>> 
>> I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many 
>> of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific 
>> guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.
>> 
>> I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. 
>> No idea what's relevant and what's not.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Tim
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

Or just select the High Quality Print or Press Quality job options.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Robert Lauriston  wrote:
> If you're referencing PSD files using File > Import > File > by
> Reference and the images do not look sharp in generated PDFs, look at
> the image compression settings in FrameMaker's PDF job options. This
> is old but the settings were pretty much the same the last time I
> looked at them:
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

If you're referencing PSD files using File > Import > File > by
Reference and the images do not look sharp in generated PDFs, look at
the image compression settings in FrameMaker's PDF job options. This
is old but the settings were pretty much the same the last time I
looked at them:

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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

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We use PNG or GIF formats to get the sharpest screen captures. We use PDF for 
all other graphics.

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:36, Robert Lauriston  wrote:
> 
> Are you using File > Import > File > by Reference?
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Tim Pann  wrote:
>> Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm
>> seeing on my computer screen.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM
>> To: Tim Pann; framers
>> Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images
>> 
>> Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF.
>> The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF,
>> online help, or both?
>> 
>> --
>> Shmuel Wolfson
>> Technical Writer
>> 052-763-7133
>> 
>> On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
>> and answered.
>> 
>> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
>> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
>> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
>> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
>> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image
>> for one and that didn't help.
>> 
>> I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my
>> PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or
>> recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.
>> 
>> I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No
>> idea what's relevant and what's not.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Tim
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

OK, this thread has veered in multiple directions, and the key point that Fred 
and I tried to make may have gotten lost, partly because as Fred pointed out, 
we tend to misuse the term "resolution." So let's banish that term. Don't think 
about resolution and don't do anything resolution-related to your screen shots 
in PS.

So let me try to restate the key point. If you do a screen capture of a window 
that's 1000 pixels wide and 500 pixels high, it contains 500,000 pixels 
(picture elements). You want all 500,000 to be present when you import that 
image into FM. The image file you save in Photoshop, regardless of file format, 
should still have dimensions of 1000x500 pixels.

When you import that 1000x500 pixel image into FM, you decide how wide you want 
it to be on the page by setting the dpi (dots per inch, the print equivalent of 
pixels per inch). If you want it 5" wide, set the dpi to 1000/5 = 200 dpi. If 
you want it 6" wide, set the dpi to 1000/6 = 166.666... - well, round it up to 
167 dpi. You get the idea. You want all 500,000 pixels to be there, and simply 
adjust the size by specifying how closely together they should be - the dot 
pitch, as Fred pointed out.

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Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm 
seeing on my computer screen.


From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM
To: Tim Pann; framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images
Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The 
way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online 
help, or both?

--
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052-763-7133
On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

Are you using File > Import > File > by Reference?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm
> seeing on my computer screen.
>
> 
> From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM
> To: Tim Pann; framers
> Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images
>
> Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF.
> The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF,
> online help, or both?
>
> --
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
>
> On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:
>
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image
> for one and that didn't help.
>
> I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my
> PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or
> recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.
>
> I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No
> idea what's relevant and what's not.
>
> Thank you,
> Tim
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm 
seeing on my computer screen.


From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM
To: Tim Pann; framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The 
way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online 
help, or both?

--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Shmuel]

  
  
Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the
PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your
output PDF, online help, or both?

--
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On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote:


  
  
  
  

  

  
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And
my apologies if this has been covered and answered.

  
Can anyone point me toward a good
resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported
by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc
right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files.
They're all screen captures of a user interface. I
have to resize most of them and they're looking
pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and
that didn't help.

  
I know that TIFF is the preferred
format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are
specific guidelines or recommendations about
resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

  
I'm happy to provide more
information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea
what's relevant and what's not.

  
Thank you,
Tim
  

  

  
  
  
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

If you have Illustrator objects embedded in PhotoShop images you're
placing in FrameMaker, the latter may not be smart enough to render
the Illustrator objects properly.

If you export a PSD as PNG and place that in FrameMaker, and it works
fine, then there's definitely something about the embedding.

You still haven't said whether you're seeing the degradation anywhere
except on screen in FrameMaker. It's not unusual for things to look
fine in output that don't look right in FM.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
>
> Interesting ideas. I'm not going to quite that length between Illustrator and 
> Photoshop. What I create in Illustrator I just copy and paste into Photoshop 
> as a smart object. This removes any resolution discrepancies between the two.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

Interesting ideas. I'm not going to quite that length between Illustrator and 
Photoshop. What I create in Illustrator I just copy and paste into Photoshop as 
a smart object. This removes any resolution discrepancies between the two.


From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:47 PM
To: Tim Pann; John Sgammato
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

SnagIt can do all those things but not with the same flexibility one can get 
from using Illustrator, especially layers.
Secondly, when you export the file from illustrator to PSD, when you open it in 
Photoshop, why not use  the File > Save as Web function and specify PNG as the 
converted output. You can specify a specific resolution on the Illustrator 
export and Photoshop will retain that dpi al the way to the PNG. I do this all 
the time but create GIFs.
I have even tried the Save as Web from Illustrator, but it doesn't play well 
which is strange. Both Adobe products, both creating web-ready graphics. One 
works (PhotoShop), the other doesn't (Illustrator). I would think the same code 
could be used in both instances.



On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:33 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:


Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, 
like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I 
often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when 
they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. 
For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic 
updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc.


From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as 
PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the 
reader would see on the screen.
No additional work required except possible resizing of screens that are larger 
than the image area of the document.



On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato  
wrote:


SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features.
I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for 
what it does for me every day.
I would definitely upgrade.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann 
mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com>> wrote:
By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


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[rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann 
mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com>> wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[David Spreadbury]

SnagIt can do all those things but not with the same flexibility one can get 
from using Illustrator, especially layers.
Secondly, when you export the file from illustrator to PSD, when you open it in 
Photoshop, why not use  the File > Save as Web function and specify PNG as the 
converted output. You can specify a specific resolution on the Illustrator 
export and Photoshop will retain that dpi al the way to the PNG. I do this all 
the time but create GIFs.
I have even tried the Save as Web from Illustrator, but it doesn't play well 
which is strange. Both Adobe products, both creating web-ready graphics. One 
works (PhotoShop), the other doesn't (Illustrator). I would think the same code 
could be used in both instances. 
 


 On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:33 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
   

 Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, 
like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I 
often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when 
they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. 
For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic 
updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc.
From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as 
PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the 
reader would see on the screen.No additional work required except possible 
resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document.


On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato  
wrote:


SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an 
essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for 
me every day. I would definitely upgrade. 
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:

By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston 
[rob...@lauriston.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, 
like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I 
often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when 
they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. 
For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic 
updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc.


From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM
To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as 
PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the 
reader would see on the screen.
No additional work required except possible resizing of screens that are larger 
than the image area of the document.



On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato  
wrote:


SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features.
I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for 
what it does for me every day.
I would definitely upgrade.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann 
mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com>> wrote:
By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


From: 
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[framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>]
 on behalf of Robert Lauriston 
[rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann 
mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com>> wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[David Spreadbury]

And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as 
PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the 
reader would see on the screen.No additional work required except possible 
resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document. 


 On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato 
 wrote:
   

 SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an 
essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for 
me every day. I would definitely upgrade. 
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:

By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[John Sgammato]

SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features.
I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive
for what it does for me every day.
I would definitely upgrade.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:

> By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the
> current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the
> latest version?
>
> 
> From: Tim Pann
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
> To: Robert Lauriston; framers
> Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images
>
> For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard
> and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.
>
> 
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [
> framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [
> rob...@lauriston.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
> To: framers
> Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images
>
> Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?
>
> If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
> changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> > I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> > and answered.
> >
> > Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's
> quick)
> > for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> > FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing
> PSD
> > files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> > most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current 
or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version?


From: Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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[rob...@lauriston.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and 
copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good.


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[rob...@lauriston.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM
To: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

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Sean Brierley's document might help:



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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[Robert Lauriston]

Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker?

If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by
changing DPI has no effect on image resolution.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered
> and answered.
>
> Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick)
> for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in
> FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD
> files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize
> most of them and they're looking pretty choppy.
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Fred Ridder]

To quote the classic TV commercial: Stop! You're both right!

When speaking of raster images, the resolution is the *number* of pixels. It is 
*not* the pixel pitch, whihc ius what we're used to thinking of as "resolution" 
when we talk about monitors or printers. 

What Richard is saying is precisely the advice you've always heard. The 
resolution--the number of pixels--should always remain the same for the best 
results. Changing the reproduced size changes the pixel *pitch* but does not 
change the *number* of pixels. The thing you do *not* want to do is resample 
the image to change the number of pixels (the resolution); this *always* 
degrades the quality of the image, anthough the degree of degradation can vary 
widely depending on the ratio of the two resolutions and the algorithm being 
used for the resampling or downsampling.

And getting the size correct is actually very simple as long as you know how to 
use a calculator. If you have an image that is 1328 pixels wide, and you need 
it to fit in a frame that is 3.25 inches wide, you need to set the dpi (the 
pixel pitch) to 1328/3.25 ≈ 409. In this case you can actually set the size 
with 0.25% (one part in 400) accuracy.

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From: tp...@telecomsys.com
To: richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:04 +







OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep 
the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import 
it in also at that resolution.
 I was not aware that changing the import resolution was advisable.



Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right 
resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you 
have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time?



Tim



From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM

To: Tim Pann; framers

Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images







Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size
 you want on the page. 
 


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Pann

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM

To: framers

Subject: Importing clear, sharp images


 






I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.


 


Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working
 on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen 
captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking 
pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help.


 


I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about
 resolution, resizing once imported, etc.


 


I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.


 


Thank you,


Tim






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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

No, if you import at screen resolution, you're almost always throwing away 
pixels. Your screen captures typically have to be shrunk to fit on the page in 
your doc. You want to shrink them by squeezing the existing pixels closer 
together, not by throwing some of them away.

When you import a screen shot into FM, the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog 
offers Fit in Selected Rectangle. I don't generally use that, but if you're 
creating the anchored frame first, you might want to try it. I prefer to 
specify a nice round dpi (dots per inch) number that goes evenly into the 
typical laser printer resolutions (probably less important today, but old 
habits die hard).

The Imported Graphic Scaling dialog also offers several common dpi options 
(with the dimensions on the page resulting from that dpi setting), and Custom 
dpi. It also shows you the pixel dimensions of the file you're importing. If 
none of the listed common dpi settings result in a size you can use, the math 
to get exactly what you want isn't hard. If the file is, say, 960 pixels wide, 
and you want it to fit exactly into a 6" wide frame on the page, divide 960 by 
6. Set Custom dpi to the result, 160, and you should have a nice, sharp 6" wide 
screen shot in your doc.

From: Tim Pann [mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:30 PM
To: Combs, Richard (CW); framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep 
the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import 
it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import 
resolution was advisable.

Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right 
resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you 
have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time?

Tim

From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM
To: Tim Pann; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Don't resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size 
you want on the page.

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM
To: framers
Subject: Importing clear, sharp images

I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[John Sgammato]

The images align with the text and are still clear. I remember years ago I
had to use multiples of 4, but now 150, 160, and 180 look equally good
depending on what i am showing.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:

>  What's significant about the number 160? Just wondering, since it's not
> a simple factor of 72 or 144 or 300 etc.
>
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> *To:* Tim Pann
> *Cc:* framers
> *Subject:* Re: Importing clear, sharp images
>
>   I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by
> reference at 160dpi and they look great.
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
>
>>I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been
>> covered and answered.
>>
>>  Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's
>> quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference
>> in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing
>> PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to
>> resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF
>> image for one and that didn't help.
>>
>>  I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many
>> of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific
>> guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.
>>
>>  I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed.
>> No idea what's relevant and what's not.
>>
>>  Thank you,
>> Tim
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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

What's significant about the number 160? Just wondering, since it's not a 
simple factor of 72 or 144 or 300 etc.


From: John Sgammato [john.sgamm...@actifio.com]
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Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference at 
160dpi and they look great.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann 
mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com>> wrote:
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Same here.

I think SnagIt is an excellent tool and well worth the money.

If the image/drawing I want to capture is large (or vectorized), I try to 
maximise it as much as reasonable (native, without jaggies) on the 1920x1200 
screen I use before the screen capture.

This makes the PNG capture occur at a good high resolution – i.e., the source 
quality is better – so that letting FrameMaker downsize it to fit still makes 
it look good.

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:17 PM
To: Tim Pann
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images

I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference at 
160dpi and they look great.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann 
mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com>> wrote:
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep 
the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import 
it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import 
resolution was advisable.

Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right 
resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you 
have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time?

Tim

From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM
To: Tim Pann; framers
Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images

Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size 
you want on the page.

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Subject: Importing clear, sharp images

I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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RE: Importing clear, sharp images

[Combs, Richard (CW)]

Don't resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you 
import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size 
you want on the page.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM
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Subject: Importing clear, sharp images

I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
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Importing clear, sharp images

[Tim Pann]

I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and 
answered.

Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for 
understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? 
I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're 
all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and 
they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that 
didn't help.

I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD 
imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or 
recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.

I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea 
what's relevant and what's not.

Thank you,
Tim

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Re: Importing clear, sharp images

[John Sgammato]

I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference
at 160dpi and they look great.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:

>I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been
> covered and answered.
>
>  Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's
> quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference
> in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing
> PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to
> resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF
> image for one and that didn't help.
>
>  I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of
> my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines
> or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc.
>
>  I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No
> idea what's relevant and what's not.
>
>  Thank you,
> Tim
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