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Has someone published a modernized set of rules for web
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Coding the HTML correctly doesn't ensure
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Sent: 04 August 2014 17:05
To: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Quoted speech
I think you're missing my point. On my computer, the text on Japanese,
Korean, and Chinese sites
On 1 Aug 2014 at 13:50, Theresa de Valence wrote:
They're not, they are single quotes at the beginning and end of speech vs
American double quotes at the beginning and end of speech.
Theresa, discussion obviously has deviated. Hence I refer to Your original post
as of
July 30:
I'm used to
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On 7/30/2014 4
Coding the HTML correctly doesn't ensure that the reader's system has
the necessary character.
Best practice is generally to stick to the extended 8-bit ASCII
character set (ISO 8859-1), which does not include U+2018, U+2019,
U+201C, or U+201D.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Davis, David
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Subject: Re: Quoted speech
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Coding the HTML correctly doesn't ensure that the reader's system has
the necessary character.
Best practice is generally to stick to the extended 8-bit ASCII
character set (ISO 8859-1
Braces aka left and right curly brackets are in the ASCII character
set so no problem in HTML.
I assumed the braces were some weird Australian typographical
convention that Theresa was Americanizing. If they're being used in
mathematical formulas or computer code syntax, they should not be
On 8/1/2014 12:45 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
Braces aka left and right curly brackets are in the ASCII character
set so no problem in HTML.
I assumed the bracets were some weird Australian typographical
convention that Theresa was Americanizing. If they're being used in
mathematical formulas
We were responding to your statement, I want to replace ... curly
'smart' brackets with straight brackets, because I believe that these
'magic' characters will blow up in epub, html, or web pages.
The bit about curly quotes is clear, I think every experienced tech
writer has had problems with
On 7/30/2014 4:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Side-bar curiosity question: why do you choose not to use the curved
apostrophe's? I find those to be more consistent with the way I want
my documents to look ... fwiw.
Actually, Z, I want to replace the curly apostrophes
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Subject: Re: Quoted speech
On 7/30/2014 4:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Side-bar
I'm used to replacing smart quotes with straight quotes in documents I
receive but I've just received a document from an Australian writer, so
dialogue is indicated with single curved apostrophes:
U+02BB Modifier letter turned comma
U+02BC Modifier letter apostrophe
How do I replace these with
If it were me, I'd copy one of the Australian ones into the Find box,
then copy the one you want it to be into the Replace box, then click Change
All, making sure Book is selected.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com wrote:
I'm used to replacing smart quotes with
On 7/30/2014 11:58 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
If it were me, I'd copy one of the Australian ones into the Find box,
then copy the one you want it to be into the Replace box, then click
Change All, making sure Book is selected.
For me that doesn't quite work. There's something in Frame which decides
I'm surprised. Frame's usually so good about finding those weird things.
OK, this part I'm not sure will work, but according to the help.adobe.com
website, you can search for Unicode characters using their UTF-8 hex code
and \x.
So for your first character, in the Find box, type '\xCABB'
Let me know if it works so I can put it into my bag of tricks, too.
So far it's not working (search can't find anything with \xCABC [I'm
searching for Text]).
The tough part is that this book has two books in it and I did the first
one two months ago and changed all the curled parentheses
Hi Theresa, hi Lin,
this problem is known for older versions of FrameMaker, where it was
necessary to replace these characters in MIF.
FM 8 is the first version to understand Unicode and to distinguish these
characters well.
But, apart from this technical matter, I am wondering about the
Subject: Re: Quoted speech
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Let me know if it works so I can put it into my bag of tricks, too.
So far it's not working (search can't find anything with \xCABC [I'm
searching for Text]).
The tough part is that this book has two books in it and I did the first
Theresa wrote:
Lin Sims wrote:
If it were me, I'd copy one of the Australian ones into the Find
box, then copy the one you want it to be into the Replace box, then
click Change All, making sure Book is selected.
For me that doesn't quite work. There's something in Frame which decides a
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