Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-28 Thread David Creamer
In my opinion, the Character Designer should have From Style rather than As Is. The As Is setting impedes experimentation with the settings. I agree with Matt: I teach never to edit character tags with text selected. There is a method to do it safely with text selected, but it requires more

RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-26 Thread Craig Ede
, but the effects of previous tags will affect the text in ways that might baffle who think the text ought not to have the previously applied characteristics. Instead use a tag that names all the elements you want to change (like Bold-Italic) and use that instead. Thanks. Craig Subject: Re: Character Tag

Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-24 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi David,I agree with your thoughts on the subject, but I believe the engineers would call this "as designed"…I know it could be better, but given that the Character Designer hasn't changed since, well, ever.As such, I'm betting it's not at the top of the To-Do list for the engineers. -MattMatt R.

RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-22 Thread Davis, David
Cheers Matt, Yes I totally agree with your 'bottom line' - But surely this is a bug? The Character Designer dialog box (or pod as they seem to want to call it now) just simply isn't behaving consistently and doing what it says it does. There is nothing I can see about this issue in the user docs

Subject: Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-20 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Try this one: while you're in the character designer press Shift+F8. All values will be set to As Is. You can modify the format and apply - or update all. But Matt is right: when you first click 'Apply', all current values of the selected text will be shown and if you next click 'update all'

Subject: Re: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't

2013-11-20 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Try this one: while you're in the character designer press Shift+F8. All values will be set to As Is. You can modify the format and apply - or update all. But Matt is right: when you first click 'Apply', all current values of the selected text will be shown and if you next click 'update all'

RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-19 Thread Davis, David
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:31:04 -0500 From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com To: Beverly Robinson beverly_robin...@datacard.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't Message-ID: bay171-w28c10933876ab50261f6b5ba

Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-19 Thread Matt Sullivan
Sorry David, but it's your workflow that's tripping you up.I'm sure there are other methods, but here's how I've consistently and confidently defined/updated character tags for many years:Click outside the text flowOpen the Character DesignerChoose your tag from the drop down menuDefine properties

Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
This is a very old FrameMaker bug. When you set everything to As Is, the text size doesn't show As Is, but it does function as As Is. It's just a display problem. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 14-Nov-13 12:05 AM, Beverly Robinson wrote: FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on

RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-14 Thread Beverly Robinson
Robinson; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't You've identified one of the long-standing inconsistencies in the FrameMaker UI. In the Size box of the Character Designer dialog, the as is state is indicated by emptiness. Same with Spread and Stretch. All three

Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-14 Thread Heiko Haida
Well, it is extremely useful to have character format definitions that leave certain issues undefined. The bug (old, indeed) is, that the as is used here is the same as is that is used for redefining formats (like for para or table formats). It is necessary to keep this in mind when working

RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't

2013-11-13 Thread Fred Ridder
You've identified one of the long-standing inconsistencies in the FrameMaker UI. In the Size box of the Character Designer dialog, the as is state is indicated by emptiness. Same with Spread and Stretch. All three of these properties allow a continuous range of values rather than being picked