That looks like a dead project. InfoTrust / Flatirons bought Syntext
and is no longer developing the open-source version.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Roger Shuttleworth shutti...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh yes it is. Or at least there is a free edition.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sernafree/
If that was ever true, it's not any more. I go back and forth between
OpenOffice Writer / Calc and MS Word / Excel all the time without
problems.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'm really not a conspiracy theory kind of guy since I don't enjoy
wrestling
InDesign with EmSoftware's WordsFlow plugin can work.
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Oh yes it is. Or at least there is a free edition.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sernafree/
On 03/03/2014 5:36 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
Serna's not free.
http://www.serna-xmleditor.com/shop/serna-xml-editor/
Neither are any of the WYSIWYG DITA editors on the Indoition list:
MIF2Go is a big improvement over Frame's native export, but Flare
might have better import.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
Before you try Flare, do MIF2Go -- like a number of other writers in the
thread have said, it's the best way to export from FM
At 21:18 + 3/3/14, a...@ant-davey.com wrote:
Getting them to use a restrictive number of formats is just the first step
towards structured authoring. The ones that really have me tearing my hair out
are those who use Heading 1 and maybe Heading 2 and then every subhead below
that is
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Hi everyone. First post.
My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support group
to use.
Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do; our
preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's
: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 5:41 PM
To: Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Hi Dan
How much are you wedded to Frame and Word? If the issue is just that they need
At 16:36 + 3/3/14, Harding, Dan wrote:
Anything proprietary, that requires a major learning curve, or an additional
software purchase/install would not work well at all.
With all respect to Rebecca, in that case I would be very cautious about LaTeX.
Yes, it's free, and yes, it works, but
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 9:46 AM
To: Harding, Dan; rebecca officer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
At 16:36 + 3/3/14, Harding, Dan wrote:
Anything
At 09:57 -0800 3/3/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Agreed that LaTeX has a steep learning curve and, in this WYSIWYG world, it
may seem like a step backward to some people. However, the power and
flexibility (with highly consistent formatted output) is very appealing in
At 09:57 -0800 3/3/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Agreed that LaTeX has a steep learning curve and, in this WYSIWYG world, it
may seem
like a step backward to some people. However, the power and flexibility
(with highly
consistent formatted output) is very
Serna's not free.
http://www.serna-xmleditor.com/shop/serna-xml-editor/
Neither are any of the WYSIWYG DITA editors on the Indoition list:
http://www.indoition.com/xml-dita-tools-technical-documentation.htm
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, rebecca officer
rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz
Dan,
I also work with internal and external SMEs. And I'm in a boat heading
in the same direction. I envy you if most of your SMEs REALLY know how
to use Word, to the same extent that you know Frame. I've been trying
to get SMEs to use my Word templates, with restricted formatting
options, for
You should get an evaluation copy of MadCap Flare and see if it does
any better on the return trip. You could try FrameMaker Flare Word
and Word Flare FrameMaker, that's possible but I'm not sure if it
would mean more or less cleanup.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Harding, Dan
Before you try Flare, do MIF2Go -- like a number of other writers in the
thread have said, it's the best way to export from FM to RTF.
Flare is a decent tool, but if all you need to do is reliably round trip
and you have the rest of your editorial flow working well in Frame... the
conversion is
Alan Salo wrote:
My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support
group to use.
Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do; our
preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File... Save As Other...
Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: February-27-14 9:37 AM
To: Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1); Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Alan Salo wrote:
My team
:37 AM
To: Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1); Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Alan Salo wrote:
My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support
group to use.
Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame
the index markers is a nonstarter for us.
Thanks.
-Dan
-Original Message-
From: Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1) [mailto:as...@ariens.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:17 AM
To: Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Hi
AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Good morning,
We have used the same authoring process for eons: Authors/editors work
in MS Word, as well as preliminary indexing work. I then take the MS
Word file, import into FM (unstructured
How's the re-import into FrameMaker?
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1)
as...@ariens.com wrote:
Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do;
our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File... Save As
Other... Microsoft Word... to create
How do you go from FM to Word?
I find the Mif2Go RTF output is very good, especially if you set up your FM
template to minimize disruptions. Layout effects like sideheads and uneven
columns can get messy, but single columns with headers work out really
well, and x-ref links are preserved.
On
You might evaluate migrating to Flare, its Word export and import are
significantly better than FrameMaker's, and its FrameMaker import is
very good.
MadCap now claims that Flare supports round-tripping for use as an
add-on for FrameMaker. I don't know if that's an exaggeration or if it
still
Second on MIF2Go. It can be a challenge to configure the first time
but the output is far superior to FM's native export and you have a
lot more control. Here are the settings from a mif2htm.ini file that
worked for me:
[Options]
Output=Standard
EqVertAdjust=18
[Setup]
UseExistingMIF=No
If you are using FM's native RTF, it's always been a bit dodgy.
(Though the PDF-to-Word exporter is even more so!)
I would *highly* recommend that you invest in a copy of MIF2Go
(http://mif2go.com/). It provides a MUCH better output.
Grant
On February 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM Harding, Dan
, February 22, 2014 2:12 PM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Harding, Dan'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
At 09:40 -0500 22/2/14, Rick Quatro wrote:
Mif2Go by Omsys is a much better way to get good Word output from
FrameMaker. They will tell you
Good morning,
We have used the same authoring process for eons: Authors/editors work in MS
Word, as well as preliminary indexing work. I then take the MS Word file,
import into FM (unstructured) and do the final print-ready formatting, making
things adhere to our publishing standards and
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Good morning,
We have used the same authoring process for eons: Authors/editors work in MS
Word, as well as preliminary indexing work. I then take the MS Word file,
import into FM (unstructured) and do the final print-ready
At 09:40 -0500 22/2/14, Rick Quatro wrote:
Mif2Go by Omsys is a much better way to get good Word output from
FrameMaker. They will tell you that there is no good tool for round-tripping
between Word and FrameMaker, but if you are doing it anyway, you might as
well make the Frame to Word side as
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