Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 06:39 -0500 1/2/07, Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov wrote: >Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me), an article >from the January STC Magazine Intercom called "Old Software." They underlined >a paragraph which says, "also absent from this discussion is Adobe Frame

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Yves Barbion
I wouldn't call this "lack of recent development": http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/framemaker_ap/ Definitely something worth considering if you plan on going structured. -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Very good reference indeed. IMHO, the main drawback of OOo vs M$Word is that it tries too much to imitate the latter. I use OOo a lot, but i find it much harder to work with than FrameMaker. It seems to default to arbitrary formatting rather than paragraph and character formatting tags, which it h

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Yves Barbion
And this might help as well: http://www.adobe.com/products/special/crossproduct/tech_communication/faq.html#item-1-2 -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On 2/1/07, Yves Barbion wrote: > > I wouldn't call this "l

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Steve Rickaby
Rebecca >Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me), an article >from the January STC Magazine Intercom called "Old Software." They underlined >a paragraph which says, "also absent from this discussion is Adobe Framemaker, >which is starting to show its age and lack of rec

QA wants unique edition number in changed footers

2007-02-01 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
The easiest way IMHO is to use the markers "Header/Footer $1" and/or "Header/Footer $2" and reference these in the footer with, say, "RunningH/F 3" and/or "RunningH/F 4" resp., which read these markers. These two markers and system variables are there to meet the need of showing a revision number (

Database Publishing book

2007-02-01 Thread Pat Bensky
Hello Framers, I am thinking of writing a book about database publishing. It would cover publishing with InDesign and Quark (possibly FrameMaker and Word as well) using the following methods: InDesign tags Quark tags Xtags, Xdata XML RTF (perhaps) FrameMaker tags (maybe) But before I commit to d

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Dov Isaacs
On behalf of Adobe and without getting into details (sorry), let me assure you that the next version of FrameMaker is under active development. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:39 AM > To: framers at f

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Malin
I usually ignore what the STC says. What part of usda is aphis? My mom used to work for arserrc. JOe Yves Barbion wrote: > I wouldn't call this "lack of recent development": > > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/framemaker_ap/ > > Definitely something worth considering if you plan on going stru

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Art Campbell
One detail, please? Here, or still in exile in India? Art On 2/1/07, Dov Isaacs wrote: > On behalf of Adobe and without getting into details (sorry), > let me assure you that the next version of FrameMaker is > under active development. > > - Dov > > > > -Original Message- > > Fr

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > One detail, please? > Here, or still in exile in India? Why does that matter? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --

Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format

2007-02-01 Thread Rene S.
-Original Message- From: Christine Beck [mailto:christine_b...@us.xyratex.com] >Isn't it easier to create a paragraph tag for your Figure Titles? You >can use Ctrl M to position them as you wish and save the new tag. All of this assumes that there is a paragraph tag created for the capt

How long to learn framescript?

2007-02-01 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 11:45 -0800 22/1/07, Diane Gaskill wrote: >I'm considering asking my manager to buy FrameScript for me and I have >to justify it of course. Does anyone have any data on how long it >takes to become reasonably proficient using it. I have 4 years of sw >dev experience and 15 years of FM exper

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov wrote: I know nothing > about OpenOffice.org Writer. Does anyone else? It's very much like MS Word, in the way it is cumbersome and unintuitive and at least a little bit unstable. I have used it to edit a document created by someone else. The first thing t

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
Steve Rickaby wrote: > I sometimes think I'd dearly like to see a head-to-head challenge > between a competent FrameMaker user and a competent Word user (or > 'FrameMaker 'alternative of your choice' user) to perform a series of > standard operations we take for granted in FrameMaker. Such a test >

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Briggs
At 12:43 PM + 2/1/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: >I sometimes think I'd dearly like to see a head-to-head challenge between a >competent FrameMaker user and a competent Word user (or 'FrameMaker >'alternative of your choice' user) to perform a series of standard operations >we take for granted in

Database Publishing book

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Pat Bensky wrote: > Hello Framers, > I am thinking of writing a book about database > publishing. It would cover > publishing with InDesign and Quark (possibly > FrameMaker and Word as well) > using the following methods: > > InDesign tags > Quark tags > Xtags, Xdata > XML > RTF (perhaps) > F

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Emory
The publication by the STC of this article demonstrates the declining relevance of that organization.

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Art Campbell
At the risk of injecting more accurate facts into this thread and disabusing Dan's low opinion of STC (why yes, I am a senior member) * Becky Frasure's original assertion that the article was published in the January issue of STC Intercom is inaccurate. What was published there was an articl

Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Alison Carrico
Is there a way to force Frame to paste as text when copy/pasting WITHIN Frame? Below is the altered line in my .ini file, but I still have to "Paste Special" when copying between Frame docs or within the same doc. ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, RTF, OLE 2, FILE, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF -

Global change of table row height settings

2007-02-01 Thread TEPLITZ Ronald
I have a doc with a lot of tables. I want to change the row height min and max values of all tables rather than just one table at a time. Does anyone have a technique or a utility to do this? Ron

Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Warren
Alison Carrico wrote: > Is there a way to force Frame to paste as text when copy/pasting WITHIN > Frame? Alison: Try HovText: http://hovtext.com/index.php/?page=features&lang=en -Andrew === Andrew Warren - awarren at synaptics.com === Synaptics, Inc - Santa Clara, CA

Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Charles Beck
I second this endorsement, although I offer one caveat: Some Microsoft products do not play nice with this tool. For example, if you have HovText on, and you try to copy the contents of a cell in Excel, it does not copy and the cell does not even stay selected. Quite threw me the first few times I

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread rebecca.l.fras...@aphis.usda.gov
Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me), an article from the January STC Magazine Intercom called "Old Software." They underlined a paragraph which says, "also absent from this discussion is Adobe Framemaker, which is starting to show its age and lack of recent developm

character tags in cross reference text

2007-02-01 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Caroline Thanks for that, but unfortunately - as Niels thought - it doesn't work in this situation. We have text like this: parameter1 option1 parameter2 parameter3 option3 where option1 and option3 need to be in italics. And the number of parameters and options varies. I have a nasty feelin

character tags in cross reference text

2007-02-01 Thread rebecca officer
Thanks Richard! I did the quick test (Courier -> Courier New) and it didn't preserve the italics but did preserve the different font in the xref. So the bits that I wanted to have Courier New italics were Courier New. That's a lot closer than I was before! So by the look of it, I need to find/mak

character tags in cross reference text - solved!

2007-02-01 Thread rebecca officer
Got it!! For anyone else who wants to do the same, the solution was: 1. Close FM. 2. Back up maker.ini, then in the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of maker.ini, replace this line: Courier, Italic, *=Courier, Oblique, *, Regular with this line: Courier, Italic, *=CourierItalic, Oblique, *, R

Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Rebecca . L . Frasure
Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me), an article from the January STC Magazine Intercom called "Old Software." They underlined a paragraph which says, "also absent from this discussion is Adobe Framemaker, which is starting to show its age and lack of recent developm

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 06:39 -0500 1/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me), an article >from the January STC Magazine Intercom called "Old Software." They underlined >a paragraph which says, "also absent from this discussion is Adobe Framemaker, >which is

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Yves Barbion
I wouldn't call this "lack of recent development": http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/framemaker_ap/ Definitely something worth considering if you plan on going structured. -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Very good reference indeed. IMHO, the main drawback of OOo vs M$Word is that it tries too much to imitate the latter. I use OOo a lot, but i find it much harder to work with than FrameMaker. It seems to default to arbitrary formatting rather than paragraph and character formatting tags, which it

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Yves Barbion
And this might help as well: http://www.adobe.com/products/special/crossproduct/tech_communication/faq.html#item-1-2 -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On 2/1/07, Yves Barbion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I woul

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Steve Rickaby
Rebecca >Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me), an article >from the January STC Magazine Intercom called "Old Software." They underlined >a paragraph which says, "also absent from this discussion is Adobe Framemaker, >which is starting to show its age and lack of rec

Re: QA wants unique edition number in changed footers

2007-02-01 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
The easiest way IMHO is to use the markers "Header/Footer $1" and/or "Header/Footer $2" and reference these in the footer with, say, "RunningH/F 3" and/or "RunningH/F 4" resp., which read these markers. These two markers and system variables are there to meet the need of showing a revision number

Database Publishing book

2007-02-01 Thread Pat Bensky
Hello Framers, I am thinking of writing a book about database publishing. It would cover publishing with InDesign and Quark (possibly FrameMaker and Word as well) using the following methods: InDesign tags Quark tags Xtags, Xdata XML RTF (perhaps) FrameMaker tags (maybe) But before I commit to d

RE: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Dov Isaacs
On behalf of Adobe and without getting into details (sorry), let me assure you that the next version of FrameMaker is under active development. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:39 AM > To: framers@frameusers.com > Subje

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Malin
I usually ignore what the STC says. What part of usda is aphis? My mom used to work for arserrc. JOe Yves Barbion wrote: I wouldn't call this "lack of recent development": http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/framemaker_ap/ Definitely something worth considering if you plan on going structured

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Art Campbell
One detail, please? Here, or still in exile in India? Art On 2/1/07, Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On behalf of Adobe and without getting into details (sorry), let me assure you that the next version of FrameMaker is under active development. - Dov > -Original Message

RE: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > One detail, please? > Here, or still in exile in India? Why does that matter? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___

RE: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format

2007-02-01 Thread Rene S.
-Original Message- From: Christine Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Isn't it easier to create a paragraph tag for your Figure Titles? You >can use Ctrl M to position them as you wish and save the new tag. All of this assumes that there is a paragraph tag created for the captions, separat

Re: How long to learn framescript?

2007-02-01 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 11:45 -0800 22/1/07, Diane Gaskill wrote: >I'm considering asking my manager to buy FrameScript for me and I have >to justify it of course. Does anyone have any data on how long it >takes to become reasonably proficient using it. I have 4 years of sw >dev experience and 15 years of FM exper

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know nothing about OpenOffice.org Writer. Does anyone else? It's very much like MS Word, in the way it is cumbersome and unintuitive and at least a little bit unstable. I have used it to edit a document created by someone else. The first thing that went wrong was

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
Steve Rickaby wrote: I sometimes think I'd dearly like to see a head-to-head challenge between a competent FrameMaker user and a competent Word user (or 'FrameMaker 'alternative of your choice' user) to perform a series of standard operations we take for granted in FrameMaker. Such a test could i

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Alan Litchfield
Rebecca, On 2/02/2007, at 12:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone left on my desk (presumably to irritate the heck out me) I am always arguing with my officemates that Framemaker is the best software for what we do, but I need some knowlegable words from my fellow listmates. Hmm,

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Briggs
At 12:43 PM + 2/1/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: >I sometimes think I'd dearly like to see a head-to-head challenge between a >competent FrameMaker user and a competent Word user (or 'FrameMaker >'alternative of your choice' user) to perform a series of standard operations >we take for granted in

Re: Database Publishing book

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Pat Bensky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Framers, > I am thinking of writing a book about database > publishing. It would cover > publishing with InDesign and Quark (possibly > FrameMaker and Word as well) > using the following methods: > > InDesign tags > Quark tags > Xtags, Xdata > XML

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Emory
The publication by the STC of this article demonstrates the declining relevance of that organization. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to

Re: Replacing Framemaker

2007-02-01 Thread Art Campbell
At the risk of injecting more accurate facts into this thread and disabusing Dan's low opinion of STC (why yes, I am a senior member) * Becky Frasure's original assertion that the article was published in the January issue of STC Intercom is inaccurate. What was published there was an articl

RE: Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Alison Carrico
Is there a way to force Frame to paste as text when copy/pasting WITHIN Frame? Below is the altered line in my .ini file, but I still have to "Paste Special" when copying between Frame docs or within the same doc. ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, RTF, OLE 2, FILE, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF -

Global change of table row height settings

2007-02-01 Thread TEPLITZ Ronald
I have a doc with a lot of tables. I want to change the row height min and max values of all tables rather than just one table at a time. Does anyone have a technique or a utility to do this? Ron ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL

RE: Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Warren
Alison Carrico wrote: > Is there a way to force Frame to paste as text when copy/pasting WITHIN > Frame? Alison: Try HovText: http://hovtext.com/index.php/?page=features&lang=en -Andrew === Andrew Warren - [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Synaptics, Inc - Santa Clara, CA

RE: Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Peter Rule
The best option I've come across to achieve this is to use a third party tool called Hovtext (www.hovtext.com). Its simple, easy to use and free. It works for all Windows apps, not just Frame specific. Highly recommended. -Pete -Original message- From: "Alison Carrico" [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Paste Special

2007-02-01 Thread Charles Beck
I second this endorsement, although I offer one caveat: Some Microsoft products do not play nice with this tool. For example, if you have HovText on, and you try to copy the contents of a cell in Excel, it does not copy and the cell does not even stay selected. Quite threw me the first few times I