Re: [Framers] tip - Save All Files (in a .book)

2016-06-30 Thread David Creamer
The Shift key short cut works with books and even if you have multiple (non-book) documents open. Keyboard shortcut: Esc f S (Think file menu>Save) After saving all open files, you can then close all files using the same Shift key technique. Keyboard shortcut: Esc f C David Creamer IDEAS Trainin

Re: [Framers] tip - Save All Files (in a .book)

2016-06-30 Thread Peter Gold
Thanks for the useful follow-up, David. I don't have the link to the complete list of FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts handy, but perhaps you or someone else on the list has it and can post it. IIRC, there are also some of KB commands that aren't documented, or that were dropped in later compilations

Re: [Framers] tip - Save All Files (in a .book)

2016-06-30 Thread David Creamer
http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/Frame_KBcommands.pdf This is not all of them, but includes some of the more useful. David Creamer IDEAS Training From: knowhow...@gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:01 AM To: David Crea

Re: [Framers] Seeking FM12 license -- legit, of course 8-)

2016-06-30 Thread Craig Ede
An interesting aspect of Creative Cloud is the ability to retain older versions when updates occur. (I assume this is still true.) It seems to me that a great way to "sell" the subscription version of FM (or better yet, Creative Suite) would be to allow installation of whatever older versions yo

[Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Theresa de Valence
I've opened a (very) old document which uses Zapf Dingbats which are not on my current system. The document prints correctly from Frame 12, but the screen display is gobbledygook. What do people use for these fonts nowadays? Thanks, Theresa -- === Theresa de Valence t...@bs

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Craig Ede
Use unicode fonts; most modern fonts are unicode. A lot of glyphs are now available in standard fonts that weren't in thefonts before. Also, purchasing Zapf Dingbats can't be that expensive. I found a copy of the Helvetica, Times and Zapf Dingbat fonts that Adobe no longer includes with FrameM

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Fred Ridder
Many people would argue with the reason you give for the "Base 14" PostScript fonts not being bundled with applications after a certain time. The official reason given by most software publishers was that the PostScript outline and metrics files were required to be built into all PostScript comp

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Theresa de Valence
I have Zapf Dingbats available in my Frame 8 installation. How do I get them to Frame 12? Thanks, Theresa ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameu

Re: [Framers] tip - Save All Files (in a .book)

2016-06-30 Thread Peter Gold
Once, again, thanks, David! On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:19 AM, David Creamer < ideasli...@ideastraining.com> wrote: > http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/Frame_KBcommands.pdf > > > > This is not all of them, but includes some of the more useful. > > > > David Creamer > > IDEAS Training > ___

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Wickham
I've heard recommendations to use Adobe Pi as a replacement. The document may be printing fine because of printer-resident versions of Zapf Dingbats on a Postscript printer. If you have a Postscript printer, and still have the installation disk, it probably has a copy of Zapf Dingbats that you

[Framers] Access to Acrobat Help after End of Life support?

2016-06-30 Thread Lin Sims
I just tried to use Help in my Acrobat 10 program. Instead of taking me to the (online-only, and wasn't THAT a *fine *design decision) help files, I was taken to an End of Support page. Which is fine, I'm not actually looking for technical support from Adobe. I just want to look something up in th

Re: [Framers] Access to Acrobat Help after End of Life support?

2016-06-30 Thread Penelope Perkins
Lin, The PDF may have been installed with the software; you just have to hunt around in the Adobe folders on your machine for it. If not, you can download it from a number of places other than Adobe. For example, you can find it here: http://www.mvc.edu/files/acrobat_X_pro_help.pdf I can symp

Re: [Framers] Access to Acrobat Help after End of Life support?

2016-06-30 Thread Lin Sims
Many thanks to all for the speedy response. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Laura Phillips wrote: > Hi there, > > Having recently spent a bit of time on the community forums for FrameMaker > and wasn’t that fun, I noticed that Adobe does have links to earlier > versions of Help files. You might

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are FM8 and FM12 on the same system? Which Windows version(s)? Are you printing to a PostScript printer, if so which one and what driver are you using? The Unicode version of ZapfDingbats won't solve this problem since the character map is different. Adobe Pi does not have the same set of glyphs

Re: [Framers] tip - Save All Files (in a .book)

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Some of the shortcuts stopped working in FM9 and to my knowledge some of those bugs were never fixed. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Peter Gold wrote: > Thanks for the useful follow-up, David. > > I don't have the link to the complete list of FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts > handy, but perhaps y

Re: [Framers] tip - Save All Files (in a .book)

2016-06-30 Thread Lin Sims
I know the old escape shortcuts for moving up and down in a table broke; however, Frame now lets you use cursors to move from row to row or column to column. I've also noticed that sometimes, shortcuts that have BEEN working will suddenly stop working, and you have to restart the program to get th

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Craig Ede
Since it is not built into the Adobe PDF printer, I'd say the reason for THAT was licensing fees. Craig From: Fred Ridder Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:45 AM To: Craig Ede; framers Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats Many people would argue with the reas

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 6/30/2016 1:52 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Are FM8 and FM12 on the same system? Yes, but I was looking at the Character Designer and it "says" the font is Dingbats. I realize now that it doesn't mean Dingbats is installed. But I've moved since I got that CD! Thanks.

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
If you see the font on screen in FM8, and it prints correctly, then I think it must be installed. If it's the old PostScript font, check that both the .pfm and .pfb files are installed. Close FM12, compare the maker.ini for FM8 and FM12, make a backup copy of the one for FM12, edit the original i

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Fred Ridder
But it says here that if you *know* a given font is going to be resident in the printer you print the PDF from, you don't need to embed it in the PDF and download it to the printer as part of the print job. Of course, what that means for reading the PDF on-screen on a system that doesn't have th

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Fred Ridder
Right. I believe that the Character Designer is designed to list fonts that are specified in your document even if they are not installed on your system. There used to be (and may still be--I haven't looked lately) a couple of options for whether Frame remembers the names of missing fonts, and i

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Theresa de Valence
Hmmm. I just found the Frame 8 CD and put in Disk 1 and chose the only thing that looked likely which was Autoplay.exe. It started the install shield wizard which gave me a beep and said Frame 8 was already installed on this system. How do I choose to install fonts only? (I can't see anything

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
PostScript printers with resident fonts were standard in the Mac world but never caught on in the PC / Windows market. Windows versions of FrameMaker 7 and earlier came with Adobe Type Manager and the standard set of files including ZapfDingbats. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Fred Ridder wrot

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Compare the maker.ini files, as I described before. That's probably where the problem is. If the font were not installed, you would not see it on screen in FM8, so that's not the problem. Is there a Zapf Dingbats file in your \Windows\Fonts folder? If so, right-click on it. What does it show for

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Theresa de Valence
No, my fonts folder has no Zapfdingbats. On 6/30/2016 4:42 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Compare the maker.ini files, as I described before. That's probably where the problem is. If the font were not installed, you would not see it on screen in FM8, so that's not the problem. Is there a Zapf Din

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Then it's probably a PostScript Type 1 font somewhere else on your system. Search for Zd__.pfb or Zd__.pfm. The Adobe Type Manager default location used to be c:\psfonts\pfm. They could also be in a Font directory under an Adobe application directory in Program Files. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
The font must be installed since it appears in FM8. The question is why it's not appearing in FM12 on the same system. The Type 1 font files are Zd__.pfb and Zd__.pfm. Later versions of FrameMaker have a tendency to create multiple copies of maker.ini. Usually the one with the most recent

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
You said that you have FM8 and FM12 on the same system, and that the font displays correctly in FM8. If both those are true, the font is installed in Windows, and the problem is that something's different FM12. In FrameMaker 6, the file for ZapfDingbats was in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 4.0\Re

Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

2016-06-30 Thread Theresa de Valence
Sorry, if I said that I mis-spoke. When highlighting the character that does not display correctly, CTRL-D shows the family to be ZapfDingbats. I eventually realized that does not mean the font is actually installed. I no longer have anything but 8 and 12 installed on this computer. Frame 7.2