[Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Carrie Baker
Hi I moved to a new job and they want to buy Frame for me. How exciting! I wanted to ask. Do I need to buy Acrobat too? Or us Frame enough? To make pdf files, and also to fix the page they open to etc. Thanks! ___ This message is from the Framers mai

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread john . x . posada
Depends on what your output from Frame is. If it is PDF printed docs, then yes, get Acrobat. OTOH, if your output is something else, get whatever you need to polish/adjust that output. -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.c

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
FM right out of the box includes a version of Acrobat that's commonly called "headless" - you don't get the full functionality of Acrobat exposed & I believe you can't send jobs to PDF from any other applications either. Generally, you want the full Acrobat Pro version. -Original Message---

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
If I had a badly maintained FrameMaker book with a lot of cruft on the reference pages, inconsistent styles, and so on, I'd ask them to identify problems and say how they'd clean them up. I'd ask to see one or more templates they'd created and have them detail the process of creating a new book fr

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker, which includes a subset of Acrobat and RoboHelp features, is $1000. The PDF settings let you specify the start page: https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2017/using/using-framemaker-2017/frm_generating_output/Configure_PDF_settings-.htm For $1700, you can get Adobe Technical Commun

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Carrie Baker
Thanks. So you cannot enable the pdf for commenting without the full suite? And how about export to Word from PDF, do you get that from the subset? In my previous position I had the full suite, so that is why I am asking בתאריך יום ב׳, 16 באפר׳ 2018, 17:49, מאת Robert Lauriston ‏< rob...@lauriston

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker by itself can't export to Word. You might get better Word output by linking a FrameMaker project to RoboHelp than by saving as PDF and then saving as Word from Acrobat. On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Carrie Baker wrote: > Thanks. > So you cannot enable the pdf for commenting without

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Johan Anglemark
FrameMaker can save as RTF, which can be opened in Word and saved as Word. Close enough. -j On 2018-04-16 17:09, Robert Lauriston wrote: FrameMaker by itself can't export to Word. You might get better Word output by linking a FrameMaker project to RoboHelp than by saving as PDF and then saving

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Harding, Dan
Depending on the content in question, I do NOT recommend this workflow. You will lose any embedded index markers and other cross references that get preserved if you simply "Save As" RTF. For all intents and purposes, RTF = Word. Dan -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Robe

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Art Campbell
Get the full version of Acrobat too. TCS is the best way to go. Includes both and other tools that may be useful, but which you don't know you need yet because it's a new gig. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent an

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Art Campbell
Advanced FM users usually have kind of a 1000 yard stare... And may have little square marks on their faces from banging their heads on the keyboard. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Ric

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Roberta Hennessey
That bad, really? I'm on Oxygen and I really miss FrameMaker though I haven't used it in a few years. It just seemed so much more flexible than other tools I've used. On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > Advanced FM users usually have kind of a 1000 yard stare... > And may h

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:31 -0600 15/4/18, Carol J. Elkins wrote: >Over the next couple of years, I need to help my major client find and train >an in-house replacement for me as I wind down my freelance practice. They will >not consider an independent contractor next time, so it may be harder to >recruit and ide

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Carrie Baker
Sometimes people ask for Word so they can give comments. But this would not be to convert files, just to get comments I בתאריך יום ב׳, 16 באפר׳ 2018, 18:09, מאת Robert Lauriston ‏< rob...@lauriston.com>: > FrameMaker by itself can't export to Word. You might get better Word > output by linking

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
Major limitation, you can't save a whole book to RTF, only an individual .fm file. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located a

[Framers] ANN: Coming Soon: ConvertDocs

2018-04-16 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Framers, I will be releasing a brand-new script this week: http://frameautomation.com/coming-soon-convertdocs/ Also, I am extending my tax sale through tomorrow: http://www.frameexpert.com/store/ Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.c

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Pat Christenson
I've interviewed a few people for such a position in the past. Here's what has worked for me. - Basic questions, such as How long have you used FrameMaker? What is the latest version you've used? What's the largest number of FM users you've supported? What types of documents/books (financial,

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
"What's your favorite thing about FrameMaker templates?" is a good question, since templates per se don't exist, and advanced users have to figure out how to work around that. Also, the sample projects they used to include were produced by someone who didn't know to leave out the generated files.

Re: [Framers] ANN: Coming Soon: ConvertDocs

2018-04-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Looks promising! Brgds. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Framers, > > > > I will be releasing a brand-new script this week: > > > > http://frameautomation.com/coming-soon-convertdocs/ > > > > Also, I am extending my tax sale through tomorrow: > >

Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-16 Thread Jeff C
PDF to Word works, mostly. I was surprised the conversion of a 57MB PDF file successfully converted to Word. Graphics get scrambled however, so give a warning. I have a few SMEs who want a Word version to mark up. Ugh. I get comments about how bad the graphics are all the time... Jeff ++ Ma