My PDFs at www.kouroo.info are being generated out of FrameMaker 7.0
documents by the use of the Save as PDF menu item. This translation
automatically turns each FrameMaker alert entry into an Acrobat
note hidden under a little black-and-white icon of a page with one
corner turned up. It is
Hard to believe that in another year FM'll be old enough to drink.
Here's to those of us who have been with FM for the whole ride, all
the way since the NeXT workstation! I'm not disappointed that I made
this choice.
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I've recently upgraded to FM8 and Acrobat8 and now the new links in
the Acrobat documents I am generating won't function.
I suspect I must have had some option set in my old Acrobat7 that I
have forgotten to set in my new Acrobat8, because the links I used to
generate still function. However,
Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!
We've tried View Generated PDF in Acrobat, and
I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.
We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys
hypertext? Who is going to lose their job here at our project, for
having recommended that we
I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.
We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys
hypertext? Who here at our Kouroo project is going to lose their job,
for having incautiously
Could this be your problem, taken from the Microtype FM8 bug list
(http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html):
Cross-file links in PDFs authored in FrameMaker 8.0 use
Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, which are only supported
in Windows Acrobat/Reader 8.x or MacOS Acrobat/Reader 7.x or
We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys hypertext?
Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved
as FM8 since we upgraded a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7
seems difficult. We
Since our Kouroo project now has an effective workaround for the fact
that the hypertext linkage between FM8 and PDF files has not yet been
implemented (by way of first saving a FM8 file as a FM7 MIF file
before distilling a PDF), the initial panic has subsided. It turns
out that it's not a
A FrameMaker 8.0 patch has just been downloaded onto my computer and
I am now at Version 8.0p273. This is the patch that is supposed to
fix the PDF hyperlinks in web documents. I have not yet checked to
make sure that my FM8 now generates hyperlinks properly, but you need
to be aware that
We are happy to be able to report that, with the recent Version
8.0p273 patch, FM8 now works for us here at our Kouroo Contexture,
the way it should. To see how it works fine now, enabling hypertext
buttons between Acrobat documents on the internet, click on
Dov wrote:
On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated,
let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development.
A next major version is currently being developed.
Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a
techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as Adobe
Upgrade to Frame 8? (Fred Skillman)
Fred, patch 273 took account of our open issues. We are not having
any problems at all subsequent to the successful installation of that
patch. All systems are go with Frame 8.0p273 on a WindowsXP system
with Service Pack 2. Dive in at the middle and swim
We do not want to conditionalize the text inset content itself
We'd like to add our voice to the others who are urging you to
overcome this reluctance. We've ourselves faced this problem again
and again over the years and have never been able to gin up a way to
do this without actually
According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
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Acrobat Pro 9 is just being released. Since we presently distill our
FM8 files into PDFs with Acrobat8 -- should we upgrade immediately to
Acrobat9, or should we wait for the dust to settle?
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This is probably stupid but, so far, we haven't been able to figure
out how to mark up our FM8 files so that they will distill into
AcrobatPro8 documents that contain *automatically generated
bookmarks*. The Help pages don't seem to contain such instructions.
It would be so nice if someone
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We wouldn't even be able to use FrameMaker if it weren't for insets
(incorporations by reference). They work perfectly for us. Sometimes a document
of ours will have literally thousands of such live incorporations by
reference! --We rely on them the way a programmer relies on calls to a Call
FM 8 on PC, Windows Vista, 32 bit system, 2.38 GHz CPU, 4 GB RAM.
And Frame is crashing WAY too often.
I'm running FM9 on PC, Windows7 Ultimate, 64-bit, 3,33GHz CPU, 24GB RAM, and the
FM crashes have over a period of many months been training me to stay away from
a few things. For instance, I
We're definitely not betatesters or early adopters -- there is far too much
daily work that needs to be accomplished here, using the FrameMaker software
tool, to take risks with new and unproven versions. Except of course for the
sudden and too-frequent crashes, there's not anything in particular
How difficult would it be for someone who knew how, to create a utility
that would Lock every FrameMaker file on a Windows PC and Hide all
instances of a particular sort of Condition Tag?
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Because FrameMaker is what makes it possible for me to work on this Kouroo
Contexture project of mine, I have been attempting to walk back the cat
(as they say at the NSA) on the technology of it, exploring the steps of
the development of all the various hardware and software technologies that
The kind of UI thing that bugs me is this: You have two documents tiled on the
screen. You are in the left side document with your cursor in a paragraph that
you want to retag. You slide your mouse over to the docked paragraph catalog
(which is open on the right side of the screen) and click
I'm using FrameMaker 9 Unstructured with Windows 7 to generate PDFs for the
internet, and I'm forever getting complaints from my users such as Your live
links simply don't function, with Safari on my iPad!
Once upon a time I attempted to generate HTML output but the only result I was
able to
A message from a Doubting Thomas: We read Adobe's assertion, that with the
latest version of FM we become able to transform our files directly into
good-looking web pages. However, this isn't the first time the corporation has
claimed this for its product and with earlier versions of FM it simply
Suddenly I'm dead in the water this morning, with work deadlines. Am I the only
one who is suddenly getting this internal error and cannot open FrameMaker 9?
Internal Error: 9004, 6921628, 9677518, 0 FrameMaker 9.0.0 for Intel Build:
9.0p255 Window System: MSWindows Operating System: Windows NT
Martha Lee suggested: I got several Windows updates last night. Maybe you did
too and that's the cause of your Internal Error: 9004?
Thank you, Martha. I also received and installed those several Windows updates
last night.
The excellent news is, my problem is now fixed, and very simply. In
Because of fading eyesight due to old age, I have been thinking about upgrading
my hardware and software. I'd like to purchase a new iMac loaded with the
Windows operating system, because of Apple's amazing brilliant precise 5K Retina
monitor on which print appears so crisp, and then run
to the clipboard, 3.) SELECT the
text
to which we desire to apply that condition, and 4.) PASTE.
Austin Meredith
www.kouroo.info
kouroo at kouroo.info
My PDFs at www.kouroo.info are being generated out of FrameMaker 7.0
documents by the use of the "Save as PDF" menu item. This translation
automatically turns each FrameMaker "alert" entry into an Acrobat
"note" hidden under a little black-and-white icon of a page with one
corner turned up. It
>We do not want to conditionalize the text inset content itself
We'd like to add our voice to the others who are urging you to
overcome this reluctance. We've ourselves faced this problem again
and again over the years and have never been able to gin up a way to
do this without actually
According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be discussing?
A FrameMaker 8.0 patch has just been downloaded onto my computer and
I am now at Version 8.0p273. This is the patch that is supposed to
fix the PDF hyperlinks in web documents. I have not yet checked to
make sure that my FM8 now generates hyperlinks properly, but you need
to be aware that
We are happy to be able to report that, with the recent Version
8.0p273 patch, FM8 now works for us here at our Kouroo Contexture,
the way it should. To see how it works fine now, enabling hypertext
buttons between Acrobat documents on the internet, click on
Dov wrote:
>On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated,
>let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development.
>A next major version is currently being developed.
Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a
techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as
Acrobat Pro 9 is just being released. Since we presently distill our
FM8 files into PDFs with Acrobat8 -- should we upgrade immediately to
Acrobat9, or should we "wait for the dust to settle"?
The problems we are having with Acrobat Pro 8 are problems of 1.) the
very significant processing effort that is required, to re-distill an
updated FM8 file into an updated PDF suitable for posting to the
internet, and 2.) the frequency with which Acrobat Pro 8 suddenly
crashes. This
Dov, I'm wondering if you should alert Adobe to revise their
installation instructions for Adobe Acrobat: that they should include
as an initial step in their instructions, the purging of the Adobe
Reader from the user's machine.
>>FM8 installs the PDF Creation Add-on. Is it best to uninstall this
>>before installing Acrobat Pro 8 (along with CS3 Design Standard)?
>Yes.
This is scary. We are presently using versions 8 of Adobe FrameMaker
and Adobe Acrobat Professional, after having used versions 7. We
upgraded
This is probably stupid but, so far, we haven't been able to figure
out how to mark up our FM8 files so that they will distill into
AcrobatPro8 documents that contain *automatically generated
bookmarks*. The Help pages don't seem to contain such instructions.
It would be so nice if someone
>Upgrade to Frame 8? (Fred Skillman)
Fred, patch 273 took account of our open issues. We are not having
any problems at all subsequent to the successful installation of that
patch. All systems are go with Frame 8.0p273 on a WindowsXP system
with Service Pack 2. Dive in at the middle and swim
Because FrameMaker is what makes it possible for me to work on this "Kouroo
Contexture" project of mine, I have been attempting to "walk back the cat"
(as they say at the NSA) on the technology of it, exploring the steps of
the development of all the various hardware and software technologies
How difficult would it be for someone who knew how, to create a utility
that would Lock every FrameMaker file on a Windows PC and Hide all
instances of a particular sort of Condition Tag?
>Hard to believe that in another year FM'll be old enough to drink.
Here's to those of us who have been with FM for the whole ride, all
the way since the NeXT workstation! I'm not disappointed that I made
this choice.
I've recently upgraded to FM8 and Acrobat8 and now the new links in
the Acrobat documents I am generating won't function.
I suspect I must have had some option set in my old Acrobat7 that I
have forgotten to set in my new Acrobat8, because the links I used to
generate still function. However,
Having recently upgraded on the XP PC from Adobe FrameMaker 7 and
Acrobat Pro 7 to FM8.0p266 and Acrobat Pro 8.1.1 and Adobe Reader
8.1.1, we can't get our distilled hypertext buttons to function
anymore. Our Kouroo project is dead in the water!
We've tried "View Generated PDF in Acrobat," and
>I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.
We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys
hypertext? Who is going to lose their job here at our project, for
having recommended that we
>I am not aware of any way to control this from within FrameMaker 8.0.
We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys
hypertext? Who here at our Kouroo project is going to lose their job,
for having incautiously
>Could this be your problem, taken from the Microtype FM8 bug list
>(http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html):
>Cross-file links in PDFs authored in FrameMaker 8.0 use
>Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, which are only supported
>in Windows Acrobat/Reader 8.x or MacOS Acrobat/Reader 7.x
>We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
>project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys hypertext?
Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved
as FM8 since we "upgraded" a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7
seems difficult.
OK, our chestnuts are pulled out of the fire, we have a way to
control the FM8 situation. There is a doable workaround. Adobe has
time to fix this hypertext problem of the relationship between the
latest version of their FrameMaker and the latest versions of their
Acrobat and Reader. Here's
Since our Kouroo project now has an effective workaround for the fact
that the hypertext linkage between FM8 and PDF files has not yet been
implemented (by way of first saving a FM8 file as a FM7 MIF file
before distilling a PDF), the initial panic has subsided. It turns
out that it's not a
We're definitely not betatesters or early adopters -- there is far too much
daily work that needs to be accomplished here, using the FrameMaker software
tool, to take risks with new and unproven versions. Except of course for the
sudden and too-frequent crashes, there's not anything in particular
We?wouldn't even be able to?use FrameMaker if it weren't for insets
(incorporations by reference). They work perfectly for us. Sometimes a document
of ours will have literally thousands of?such live incorporations by
reference!?--We rely on?them the way a programmer?relies on?calls to a Call
> FM 8 on PC, Windows Vista, 32 bit system, 2.38 GHz CPU, 4 GB RAM.
> And Frame is crashing WAY too often.
?
I'm running FM9 on PC, Windows7 Ultimate, 64-bit, 3,33GHz CPU, 24GB RAM, and the
FM crashes have over a period of many months been training me to stay away from
a few things. For instance,
> The kind of UI thing that bugs me is this: You have two documents tiled on the
> screen. You are in the left side document with your cursor in a paragraph that
> you want to retag. You slide your mouse over to the docked paragraph catalog
> (which is open on the right side of the screen) and
I'm using FrameMaker 9 Unstructured with Windows 7 to generate PDFs for the
internet, and I'm forever getting complaints from my users such as "Your live
links simply don't function, with Safari on my iPad!"
Once upon a time I attempted to generate HTML output but the only result I was
able to
I'd like to thank Rick Quatro, on this list, for taking the time to
solve a problem that has been most vexing to me. For a number of years,
since Adobe purchased FrameMaker and discontinued the freebie
FrameReader, I have been reduced to using Acrobat to create PDFs to
distribute my
.
It doesn't change anything, whether I set my document to be alternate
left and right pages or to be all right pages, or whatever.
Gosh, what am I doing wrong? It must be something very simple and very
stupid. Be gentle with me.
-Austin Meredith, [1]kou...@kouroo.info
References
BEWARE: There's a bug or gotcha in FM2015's search/replace. When it
encounters a double space and asks if you want this double space
replaced with a single space, it eats the final letter off the previous
word! In my instance, "raceme[space][space][m-dash]" was made into
I am in the same situation and have not encountered this problem.
-Austin
> Hi Tom, We use large amounts of text insets. Our books are basically
just
> text insets and nothing else (we use them as a light-weight CMS), and
we
> have not experienced any problems under
Is there a way to increase the size of font FM2015 uses in its pods, or
blow up the size of the pods themselves?
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Oran Petersen's discovery, that it is right-clicking on the Framemaker
master file in Programs(x86) > Adobe that reveals the Compatibility
tab, rather than right-clicking on the shortcut, has finally enabled us
to *locate* the elusive "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings"
at this, based on the general appearance of the pod.)
Great thanks to David, and to IDEAS Training, for helping with this
problem. Now that I have spent this morning repersonalizing my
environment, I am prepared to go back to my work once again able to
*see* what I am doing.
Austin Mered
to find the name "Thoreau" for me when it is
inside a ".fm" or ".frame" file. What am I doing wrong? -Austin
Meredith
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lso to Save as PDF from
other applications, such as Word?
I don't know. I wish I did know.
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 4:56
Here's a warning for users of "Save as PDF" -- Adobe has just
"upgraded" Acrobat Pro DC to 2017.009.20058 and this has rendered the
images it generates unusably blurry. I am dead in the water, unable to
render my FM files into PDFs and thus update my online PDFs at
Problem solved, the images generated when I "Save as PDF" in FM to
Adobe Acrobat Pro are *no longer unbearably fuzzy.*
Here's what I think the problem was. Adobe issued a software update to
Acrobat Pro last week, and before they issued it of course they tested
it. And of course
I use "Save as PDF" in FrameMaker 2015 unstructured, to create Adobe
Acrobat Pro DC documents, and put them on the web at "www . kouroo .
info". They work fine with the Internet Explorer browser. Recently,
however, the Google Chrome browser stopped working, in that when it is
now
> Thanks for the community-service alert, Austin.
> Would it be useful/possible to incorporate this useful information
about
> the possibility of the problem reading the document on Chrome
> in or with the document itself?
Unfortunately, no, that would simply not be possible
> This has nothing to do with FrameMaker in general or Save as PDF in
particular.
[1]https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/change-in-support-for-acrobat-and
-reader-plug-ins-in-modern-web-.html
Actually, I fear it does have to do with FrameMaker's "Save as PDF"
functionality. We
We had updated to the latest Adobe FM (before FM19), and updated to the
latest Adobe Acrobat DC, and updated to the latest Microsoft Windows10
version, and we had again been successfully generating PDFs. Wow!
But that was last month. Now suddenly our setup will no longer generate
Perhaps this can help the programmers figure out what has gone wrong
with "Save as PDF" in the Win10Pro (1803 build 17134.165 installed
8.8.2018) and FM2017 and Acrobat DC (18.011.20058) environment. The
very last time we have been able to generate a PDF was on September
7th, when
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