RE: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
-Original Message- From: Christine Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't it easier to create a paragraph tag for your Figure Titles? You can use Ctrl M to position them as you wish and save the new tag. All of this assumes that there is a paragraph tag created for the captions, separate from the one holding the anchored frame insertion. I'm sorry that I wasn't clear in my original post. What I'm trying to reinvent (or rediscover) was the way to have flexible indentation of the caption paragraph based on surrounding paragraph tag's indentation. The idea is to keep the paragraph formats centralized and minimal, rather than having to set up 5 different formats just to accommodate figure caption indentation, or having to do manual overrides (CTRL+M) to change the indentation for most captions to various different levels. I don't know if the old templates hinged upon a script or .cfg modification, but it was detailed in a single procedure, like a job aid for the writers, and it worked flawlessly. We only had 1 pgf tag for the fig captions, but following the procedure made it behave in a dynamic manner for indentations. It was a lot faster than doing overrides and a lot cleaner and easier to manage from the template level and during WIP than multiple paragraph tags (and trying to get people to learn/remember which one to use and do all the edit markups associated therewith). It's possible, been done before - I just can't remember HOW and was hoping someone else out there has also done this or can point me to a script or .cfg modification that could be used toward it...or maybe someone lurking on this list worked at that former employer of mine and remembers more! :-) Rene Y'all think I'm crazy or smoking something illegal...but I'm not. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
-Original Message- From: Christine Beck [mailto:christine_b...@us.xyratex.com] >Isn't it easier to create a paragraph tag for your Figure Titles? You >can use Ctrl M to position them as you wish and save the new tag. All of this assumes that there is a paragraph tag created for the captions, separate from the one holding the anchored frame insertion. I'm sorry that I wasn't clear in my original post. What I'm trying to reinvent (or rediscover) was the way to have flexible indentation of the caption paragraph based on surrounding paragraph tag's indentation. The idea is to keep the paragraph formats centralized and minimal, rather than having to set up 5 different formats just to accommodate figure caption indentation, or having to do manual overrides (CTRL+M) to change the indentation for most captions to various different levels. I don't know if the old templates hinged upon a script or .cfg modification, but it was detailed in a single procedure, like a job aid for the writers, and it worked flawlessly. We only had 1 pgf tag for the fig captions, but following "the procedure" made it behave in a dynamic manner for indentations. It was a lot faster than doing overrides and a lot cleaner and easier to manage from the template level and during WIP than multiple paragraph tags (and trying to get people to learn/remember which one to use and do all the edit markups associated therewith). It's possible, been done before - I just can't remember HOW and was hoping someone else out there has also done this or can point me to a script or .cfg modification that could be used toward it...or maybe someone lurking on this list worked at that former employer of mine and remembers more! :-) Rene "Y'all think I'm crazy or smoking something illegal...but I'm not."
Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Hi All, (FM7.2 on WinXP) Our templates and style guide have the graphics and tables left-aligned with captions. However, when the figure is an integrated graphic in a procedure, it looks a bit odd to have the figure and caption all the way over against the left edge of the text frame when the surrounding text is at various levels of indentation.25 inches for numbered steps and additional .25 inches for substep or bullet levels, potentially .75 inches from the left margin, if the graphic appears after options in an alpha substep, like a short bulleted list under step 3 (b). (I hope that make sense. It would be so much easier to just show you!) A couple of employers (and several years) ago, we had FM templates that used a figure caption paragraph format, and ifwhen you inserted the anchored frameyou followed some certain procedure (which of course I cannot find and only vaguely remember) you could get the paragraph to align itself relative to the level of indentation of the preceding paragraph. Long story short, that company got sold, and the other writers have long been scattered to the winds. So, now I'm trying to reinvent the wheel. I tried messing around with where I insert the anchored frame and the various combinations of anchored frame positioning and alignment, but I can't seem to get it working. Seems like we had a shortcut keystroke set up, maybe with a .cfg file or something, but you could manually make it happen even without using the shortcut. Does anyone on this list have any ideas? Brainstorming would be helpful! :-) Thanks, Rene Stephenson Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Try setting the Anchored Frame to centered and the width of the text column. Then set the left indent of the graphic to the indent of the preceding tag. Art On 1/31/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, (FM7.2 on WinXP) Our templates and style guide have the graphics and tables left-aligned with captions. However, when the figure is an integrated graphic in a procedure, it looks a bit odd to have the figure and caption all the way over against the left edge of the text frame when the surrounding text is at various levels of indentation—.25 inches for numbered steps and additional .25 inches for substep or bullet levels, potentially .75 inches from the left margin, if the graphic appears after options in an alpha substep, like a short bulleted list under step 3 (b). (I hope that make sense. It would be so much easier to just show you!) A couple of employers (and several years) ago, we had FM templates that used a figure caption paragraph format, and if–when you inserted the anchored frame–you followed some certain procedure (which of course I cannot find and only vaguely remember) you could get the paragraph to align itself relative to the level of indentation of the preceding paragraph. Long story short, that company got sold, and the other writers have long been scattered to the winds. So, now I'm trying to reinvent the wheel. I tried messing around with where I insert the anchored frame and the various combinations of anchored frame positioning and alignment, but I can't seem to get it working. Seems like we had a shortcut keystroke set up, maybe with a .cfg file or something, but you could manually make it happen even without using the shortcut. Does anyone on this list have any ideas? Brainstorming would be helpful! :-) Thanks, Rene Stephenson Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually change the settings in the paragraph designer every time a different caption indentation is needed? Rene Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try setting the Anchored Frame to centered and the width of the text column. Then set the left indent of the graphic to the indent of the preceding tag. Art On 1/31/07, Rene Stephenson wrote: Hi All, (FM7.2 on WinXP) Our templates and style guide have the graphics and tables left-aligned with captions. However, when the figure is an integrated graphic in a procedure, it looks a bit odd to have the figure and caption all the way over against the left edge of the text frame when the surrounding text is at various levels of indentation.25 inches for numbered steps and additional .25 inches for substep or bullet levels, potentially .75 inches from the left margin, if the graphic appears after options in an alpha substep, like a short bulleted list under step 3 (b). (I hope that make sense. It would be so much easier to just show you!) A couple of employers (and several years) ago, we had FM templates that used a figure caption paragraph format, and ifwhen you inserted the anchored frameyou followed some certain procedure (which of course I cannot find and only vaguely remember) you could get the paragraph to align itself relative to the level of indentation of the preceding paragraph. Long story short, that company got sold, and the other writers have long been scattered to the winds. So, now I'm trying to reinvent the wheel. I tried messing around with where I insert the anchored frame and the various combinations of anchored frame positioning and alignment, but I can't seem to get it working. Seems like we had a shortcut keystroke set up, maybe with a .cfg file or something, but you could manually make it happen even without using the shortcut. Does anyone on this list have any ideas? Brainstorming would be helpful! :-) Thanks, Rene Stephenson Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Rene Stephenson wrote: Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually change the settings in the paragraph designer every time a different caption indentation is needed? I don't have as many possible indentation levels as you, but I simply created a series of pgf tags, for the graphic (gfGraphicFlush, gi1GraphicIndent1, gi2GraphicIndent2) and for the caption (cfCaptionFlush, ci1, ci2, etc.). I always put my graphics in a pgf of their own At Insertion Point, with the correct tag applied. The graphic pgf tags specify the corresponding caption tag as the Next Pgf. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product. Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Yes, that is one way to do it...Thanks, Stuart. Rene Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rene Stephenson wrote: Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually change the settings in the paragraph designer every time a different caption indentation is needed? I don't have as many possible indentation levels as you, but I simply created a series of pgf tags, for the graphic (gfGraphicFlush, gi1GraphicIndent1, gi2GraphicIndent2) and for the caption (cfCaptionFlush, ci1, ci2, etc.). I always put my graphics in a pgf of their own At Insertion Point, with the correct tag applied. The graphic pgf tags specify the corresponding caption tag as the Next Pgf. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product. Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually change the settings in the paragraph designer every time a different caption indentation is needed? Rene Art Campbell wrote: Try setting the Anchored Frame to centered and the width of the text column. Then set the left indent of the graphic to the indent of the preceding tag. Art On 1/31/07, Rene Stephenson wrote: > Hi All, > > (FM7.2 on WinXP) Our templates and style guide have the graphics and tables > left-aligned with captions. However, when the figure is an integrated graphic > in a procedure, it looks a bit odd to have the figure and caption all the way > over against the left edge of the text frame when the surrounding text is at > various levels of indentation?.25 inches for numbered steps and additional > .25 inches for substep or bullet levels, potentially .75 inches from the left > margin, if the graphic appears after options in an alpha substep, like a > short bulleted list under step 3 (b). (I hope that make sense. It would be so > much easier to just show you!) > > A couple of employers (and several years) ago, we had FM templates that used > a figure caption paragraph format, and if?when you inserted the anchored > frame?you followed some certain procedure (which of course I cannot find and > only vaguely remember) you could get the paragraph to align itself relative > to the level of indentation of the preceding paragraph. Long story short, > that company got sold, and the other writers have long been scattered to the > winds. > > So, now I'm trying to reinvent the wheel. I tried messing around with where I > insert the anchored frame and the various combinations of anchored frame > positioning and alignment, but I can't seem to get it working. Seems like we > had a shortcut keystroke set up, maybe with a .cfg file or something, but you > could manually make it happen even without using the shortcut. Does anyone on > this list have any ideas? Brainstorming would be helpful! :-) > > Thanks, > Rene Stephenson > > > > > > Rene L. Stephenson > eNovative Solutions, Inc. > Business Phone: 678-513-0051 > Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com > > > > ___ > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com
Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Rene Stephenson wrote: > Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my > original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure > out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent > relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually > change the settings in the paragraph designer every time a different > caption indentation is needed? I don't have as many possible indentation levels as you, but I simply created a series of pgf tags, for the graphic (gfGraphicFlush, gi1GraphicIndent1, gi2GraphicIndent2) and for the caption (cfCaptionFlush, ci1, ci2, etc.). I always put my graphics in a pgf of their own At Insertion Point, with the correct tag applied. The graphic pgf tags specify the corresponding caption tag as the Next Pgf. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product." Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5
Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
Yes, that is one way to do it...Thanks, Stuart. Rene Stuart Rogers wrote: Rene Stephenson wrote: > Thanks - but that doesn't affect the figure caption. I think my > original question got too convoluted (sorry). I'm trying to figure > out how to get the paragraph for the figure caption to indent > relative to the preceding paragraph...without having to manually > change the settings in the paragraph designer every time a different > caption indentation is needed? I don't have as many possible indentation levels as you, but I simply created a series of pgf tags, for the graphic (gfGraphicFlush, gi1GraphicIndent1, gi2GraphicIndent2) and for the caption (cfCaptionFlush, ci1, ci2, etc.). I always put my graphics in a pgf of their own At Insertion Point, with the correct tag applied. The graphic pgf tags specify the corresponding caption tag as the Next Pgf. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product." Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com
