RE: End-of-flow wildcard? [footnote to the Word/Frame/ligature story]

2014-01-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:39 + 27/1/14, Steve Rickaby wrote: >Running a global find/replace on 'fl' and 'fi' and replacing them with >themselves, i.e. 'f' and 'l' or 'f'' and 'i' typed into the Replace box, fixes >the issue: FrameMaker can find the ligatures and correctly replace them with >the relevant two-ch

RE: End-of-flow wildcard? [footnote to the Word/Frame/ligature story]

2014-01-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
In e-mails from the authors, read here as pure text, ligatures such as 'fi' and 'fl' appear as 'I dunno' characters: blank squares. When pasted into FrameMaker, the ligatures render correctly. However, FrameMaker puts a word break around them: for example, double-clicking on 'flow' highlights ju

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-22 Thread Keith Soltys
os...@aeris.net); Rick Quatro; 'Steve Rickaby'; 'Craig Ede'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? Are either of you using Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug-in? At my last employer about a decade ago (my, how time files when you're having fun..

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Klaus Daube
On 19 Jan 2014 at 9:56, Craig Ede wrote: > If I change the search to something like .\f (to search for a period > before and end of flow) it finds all periods. Similarly with space. But it > ignores the end of flow symbol and so finds periods at the end of every > sentence or spaces wherever they

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Keith Soltys
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Rick Quatro; 'Steve Rickaby'; 'Craig Ede'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? Are either of you using Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug-in? At my last employer about a decade ago (my, how time files when you're havin

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:13 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: >Are either of you using Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug-in? Nope. All those wonderful plug-ins will become available to me when I get a box that will run my copy of FrameMaker 10 (trip to local Apple Store to talk to a guru scheduled for March). Auth

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:20 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: >There are two areas of improvements in Word versions from 2007 onwards that >probably should be of interest to you because they can have a direct effect on >the problem you described in your previous message. Those improvements relate >to Unicode font

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:03 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: >But in the current XML-based Word file format (.docx, .docm, .dotx, .dotm >extensions used in Word 2007 and later) does not use the same "embed >formatting in the pilcrow" technique. Instead, the single file you see is >actually a zip archive that con

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 18:51 -0800 19/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: >A slow process (would take me a day or two for around less than 100 page >documents), but resulted in cleaner FM files ultimately. Also gave me a chance >to read the document and verify what I wanted it to say and look

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 21:25 -0500 19/1/14, Rick Quatro wrote: >The FrameMaker Word import filter leaves a line-feed character at the end of >each paragraph. You can't see it, but it is there and apparently affects >your search. I routinely strip them out in my scripts. A MIF-wash should >remove them. Thanks Rick -

Re: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Klaus Daube
On 19 Jan 2014 at 9:56, Craig Ede wrote: > If I change the search to something like .\f (to search for a period > before and end of flow) it finds all periods. Similarly with space. But it > ignores the end of flow symbol and so finds periods at the end of every > sentence or spaces wherever they

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Fred Ridder
Ridder > From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net > To: rick at rickquatro.com; srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk; craigede at > hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:51:26 -0800 > Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? > > Rick Quatro said: >

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Fred Ridder
.com > From: srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk > Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? > > At 08:03 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: > > >But in the current XML-based Word file format (.docx, .docm, .dotx, .dotm > >extensions used in Word 2007 and later) does not use the s

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Fred Ridder
t lists.frameusers.com > From: srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk > Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? > > At 18:51 -0800 19/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > > >A slow process (would take me a day or two for around less than 100 page > >docum

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:13 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: >Are either of you using Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug-in? Nope. All those wonderful plug-ins will become available to me when I get a box that will run my copy of FrameMaker 10 (trip to local Apple Store to talk to a guru scheduled for March). Auth

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Fred Ridder
-Fred Ridder > From: syed.hos...@aeris.net > To: r...@rickquatro.com; srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk; > craig...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:51:26 -0800 > Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? > > Rick Quatro said: > > The FrameMaker W

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Craig Ede
ilto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:26 AM To: Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that version. Let me look into >it on my old lapt

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Craig Ede
Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 16:53 -0600 18/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >/f, isn't it? It may well be, but if so, this isn't implemented in my ancient version (7). I'll be moving to Framemaker 10 sometime this year, but not for the curr

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:20 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: >There are two areas of improvements in Word versions from 2007 onwards that >probably should be of interest to you because they can have a direct effect on >the problem you described in your previous message. Those improvements relate >to Unicode font

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Fred Ridder
...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk > Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? > > At 08:03 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: > > >But in the current XML-based Word file format (.docx, .docm, .dotx, .dotm > >extensions used in Word 2007 and later) does not use the same "embed >

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:03 -0500 20/1/14, Fred Ridder wrote: >But in the current XML-based Word file format (.docx, .docm, .dotx, .dotm >extensions used in Word 2007 and later) does not use the same "embed >formatting in the pilcrow" technique. Instead, the single file you see is >actually a zip archive that con

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Fred Ridder
.frameusers.com > From: srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk > Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? > > At 18:51 -0800 19/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: > > >A slow process (would take me a day or two for around less than 100 page > >documents), but resulted i

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 18:51 -0800 19/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: >A slow process (would take me a day or two for around less than 100 page >documents), but resulted in cleaner FM files ultimately. Also gave me a chance >to read the document and verify what I wanted it to say and look lik

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 21:25 -0500 19/1/14, Rick Quatro wrote: >The FrameMaker Word import filter leaves a line-feed character at the end of >each paragraph. You can't see it, but it is there and apparently affects >your search. I routinely strip them out in my scripts. A MIF-wash should >remove them. Thanks Rick -

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Rick Quatro
ck at frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:26 AM To: Craig Ede; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
ts.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:26 AM To: Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that version. Le

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
ts.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:26 AM To: Craig Ede; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that versi

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Rick Quatro
017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:26 AM To: Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 09:07 -0600

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:56 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Well, I'm getting an even more peculiar result in FM7.0p579 >The search dialog gives me an error saying I need to have text in the search >box when I look for \f alone. How odd. FM7.0p577 for Mac here, and it works just fine. (I didn't know there was a p

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Paul Wilbraham
Steve, Craig I'm using FM10, but \f did locate the end of flow symbol. --Paul Wilbraham Paul Wilbraham Senior Consultant & Trainer M-AIS T: 0131 226 5893 M: 07928 797 281 On 19 January 2014 14:32, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 16:53 -0600 18/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: > > >/f, isn't it? > > It may we

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that version. Let me look into it on >my old laptop. > >For FM 10 it's \f. Wildcards don't have to be on. This is getting more interesting. \f does work in FrameMaker 7, but it only finds some instances of the '.\f'

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:53 -0600 18/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >/f, isn't it? It may well be, but if so, this isn't implemented in my ancient version (7). I'll be moving to Framemaker 10 sometime this year, but not for the current job. Just have to do it manually [sigh]. Thanks anyway though. -- Steve

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Craig Ede
ilto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:26 AM To: Craig Ede; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that version. Let me look into >it on my old lapt

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Craig Ede
Craig Ede; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard? At 16:53 -0600 18/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >/f, isn't it? It may well be, but if so, this isn't implemented in my ancient version (7). I'll be moving to Framemaker 10 sometime this year, but not for the curr

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:56 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Well, I'm getting an even more peculiar result in FM7.0p579 >The search dialog gives me an error saying I need to have text in the search >box when I look for \f alone. How odd. FM7.0p577 for Mac here, and it works just fine. (I didn't know there was a p

Re: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Paul Wilbraham
Steve, Craig I'm using FM10, but \f did locate the end of flow symbol. --Paul Wilbraham Paul Wilbraham Senior Consultant & Trainer M-AIS T: 0131 226 5893 M: 07928 797 281 On 19 January 2014 14:32, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 16:53 -0600 18/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: > > >/f, isn't it? > > It may we

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that version. Let me look into it on >my old laptop. > >For FM 10 it's \f. Wildcards don't have to be on. This is getting more interesting. \f does work in FrameMaker 7, but it only finds some instances of the '.\f'

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:53 -0600 18/1/14, Craig Ede wrote: >/f, isn't it? It may well be, but if so, this isn't implemented in my ancient version (7). I'll be moving to Framemaker 10 sometime this year, but not for the current job. Just have to do it manually [sigh]. Thanks anyway though. -- Steve _

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Steve Rickaby said: > As an avid use and evangeliser of FrameMaker since version 3, Same here ... I began using FrameMaker in 1988 on a Sun 3/50 in SunOS. Steve Rickaby said: > I think some decisions have been made that Adobe could come to regret. Unfortunately, I agree. Z

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Steve Rickaby said: > As an avid use and evangeliser of FrameMaker since version 3, Same here ... I began using FrameMaker in 1988 on a Sun 3/50 in SunOS. Steve Rickaby said: > I think some decisions have been made that Adobe could come to regret. Unfortunately, I agree. Z

RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-18 Thread Craig Ede
/f, isn't it? Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:17 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: End-of-flow wildcard? Anyone know if the

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-18 Thread Craig Ede
/f, isn't it? Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:17 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: End-of-flow wildcard? Anyone know if

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-18 Thread Steve Rickaby
Anyone know if there is one? My docs don't mention it, only '$', which ain't the same thing at all. I need to find table cell contents that end with a '.' when they shouldn't (in a fairly large reference list). Speaking of ends of flows, I've been reading the correspondence on Adobe's pricing,

End-of-flow wildcard?

2014-01-18 Thread Steve Rickaby
Anyone know if there is one? My docs don't mention it, only '$', which ain't the same thing at all. I need to find table cell contents that end with a '.' when they shouldn't (in a fairly large reference list). Speaking of ends of flows, I've been reading the correspondence on Adobe's pricing,