Re: FrameMaker Uses
Just to add to the list, I have used FrameMaker for years to create "J-cards" for cassette mix tapes (and later jewelcase inserts for mix CDs) that I make for friends. FrameMaker makes it easy to format text and images exactly as I want them for these projects *and* I can generate LOP lists of songs I've sent to a particular friend to whom I've sent many tapes/CDs so I don't send duplicates. I pretty much jumped directly from WordStar to FrameMaker for all of my personal-use document projects... s ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker Uses
Just to add to the list, I have used FrameMaker for years to create "J-cards" for cassette mix tapes (and later jewelcase inserts for mix CDs) that I make for friends. FrameMaker makes it easy to format text and images exactly as I want them for these projects *and* I can generate LOP lists of songs I've sent to a particular friend to whom I've sent many tapes/CDs so I don't send duplicates. I pretty much jumped directly from WordStar to FrameMaker for all of my personal-use document projects... s
RE: Framemaker uses
> However, in Word, you can stabilize the numbering system. Go to > Tools>Protect Document and click the box Limit formatting to a > selection of styles. Click the Settings link and from there, you can > choose which styles the document's users can employ and which they > cannot. I just did a couple of quick tests in a Word doc with four Numbered format threads in the dreaded Eight Panes of Pain, otherwise known as the Bullets and Numbering window. I was able to start new numbered lists in any of the threads. That's the core of the problem with numbered lists--you can't be sure that all numbered lists are in the same thread. Locking the styles doesn't seem to fix it. Have I missed something? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Art Campbell, who is clearly in Friday mode, wrote: > I'm surprised that no one has commented on how well the FM CDs > function as mini-Frisbees. > Get a good spin on one and you can sail it clear across a software > engineering lab... > And they make good coasters. Well, CDs and DVDs do work pretty well as flying disks (but not as as a Frisbee?, thank you), but I have always thought that they make *lousy* coasters. It's inevitable that at least some of the condensation that any self-respecting coaster is supposed to contain just runs through the center hole onto the underlying table, ruining the fine patina forever. _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_family_safety_052008
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I'm surprised that no one has commented on how well the FM CDs function as mini-Frisbees. Get a good spin on one and you can sail it clear across a software engineering lab... And they make good coasters. Art On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Richard Pesant wrote: > Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The > first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The > second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my > own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word > doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. > Stability. > > > > Richard Pesant > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Harvey [mailto:JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com] > > Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 > > To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White > > Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller > > Subject: RE: Framemaker uses > > > > I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering > > issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually > > works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay > > attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I > > like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is > > much easier to use. > > > > > > Jon Harvey > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > > (617) 588-9354 > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Framemaker uses
Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. Stability. Richard Pesant -Original Message- From: Jon Harvey [mailto:jhar...@cambridgesoft.com] Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller Subject: RE: Framemaker uses I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is much easier to use. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354
Framemaker uses
Unless you meant stabilize, as in once the Style is created, Word doesn't mysteriously delete the indents. That has happened to me on more than one occasion! Deirdre On 5/16/08, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Hi Richard: > > I agree the FrameMaker's numbering system is far superior to Word's system. > > However, in Word, you can stabilize the numbering system. Go to > Tools>Protect Document and click the box Limit formatting to a > selection of styles. Click the Settings link and from there, you can > choose which styles the document's users can employ and which they > cannot. > > Deirdre > > On 5/16/08, Richard Pesant wrote: > > Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The > > first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The > > second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my > > own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word > > doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. > > Stability. > > > > > > > > Richard Pesant > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jon Harvey [mailto:JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com] > > > > Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 > > > > To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White > > > > Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller > > > > Subject: RE: Framemaker uses > > > > > > > > I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering > > > > issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually > > > > works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay > > > > attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I > > > > like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is > > > > much easier to use. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jon Harvey > > > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > > > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > > > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > > > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > > > > (617) 588-9354 > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >
Framemaker uses
Hi Richard: I agree the FrameMaker's numbering system is far superior to Word's system. However, in Word, you can stabilize the numbering system. Go to Tools>Protect Document and click the box Limit formatting to a selection of styles. Click the Settings link and from there, you can choose which styles the document's users can employ and which they cannot. Deirdre On 5/16/08, Richard Pesant wrote: > Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The > first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The > second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my > own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word > doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. > Stability. > > > > Richard Pesant > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Harvey [mailto:JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com] > > Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 > > To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White > > Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller > > Subject: RE: Framemaker uses > > > > I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering > > issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually > > works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay > > attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I > > like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is > > much easier to use. > > > > > > Jon Harvey > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > > (617) 588-9354 > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Framemaker uses
> However, in Word, you can stabilize the numbering system. Go to > Tools>Protect Document and click the box Limit formatting to a > selection of styles. Click the Settings link and from there, you can > choose which styles the document's users can employ and which they > cannot. I just did a couple of quick tests in a Word doc with four Numbered format threads in the dreaded Eight Panes of Pain, otherwise known as the Bullets and Numbering window. I was able to start new numbered lists in any of the threads. That's the core of the problem with numbered lists--you can't be sure that all numbered lists are in the same thread. Locking the styles doesn't seem to fix it. Have I missed something? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: Framemaker uses
Art Campbell, who is clearly in Friday mode, wrote: > I'm surprised that no one has commented on how well the FM CDs > function as mini-Frisbees. > Get a good spin on one and you can sail it clear across a software > engineering lab... > And they make good coasters. Well, CDs and DVDs do work pretty well as flying disks (but not as as a Frisbee®, thank you), but I have always thought that they make *lousy* coasters. It's inevitable that at least some of the condensation that any self-respecting coaster is supposed to contain just runs through the center hole onto the underlying table, ruining the fine patina forever. _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_family_safety_052008 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker uses
Unless you meant stabilize, as in once the Style is created, Word doesn't mysteriously delete the indents. That has happened to me on more than one occasion! Deirdre On 5/16/08, Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Richard: > > I agree the FrameMaker's numbering system is far superior to Word's system. > > However, in Word, you can stabilize the numbering system. Go to > Tools>Protect Document and click the box Limit formatting to a > selection of styles. Click the Settings link and from there, you can > choose which styles the document's users can employ and which they > cannot. > > Deirdre > > On 5/16/08, Richard Pesant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The > > first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The > > second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my > > own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word > > doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. > > Stability. > > > > > > > > Richard Pesant > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 > > > > To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White > > > > Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller > > > > Subject: RE: Framemaker uses > > > > > > > > I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering > > > > issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually > > > > works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay > > > > attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I > > > > like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is > > > > much easier to use. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jon Harvey > > > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > > > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > > > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > > > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > > > > (617) 588-9354 > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker uses
Hi Richard: I agree the FrameMaker's numbering system is far superior to Word's system. However, in Word, you can stabilize the numbering system. Go to Tools>Protect Document and click the box Limit formatting to a selection of styles. Click the Settings link and from there, you can choose which styles the document's users can employ and which they cannot. Deirdre On 5/16/08, Richard Pesant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The > first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The > second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my > own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word > doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. > Stability. > > > > Richard Pesant > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 > > To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White > > Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller > > Subject: RE: Framemaker uses > > > > I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering > > issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually > > works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay > > attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I > > like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is > > much easier to use. > > > > > > Jon Harvey > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > > (617) 588-9354 > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker uses
I'm surprised that no one has commented on how well the FM CDs function as mini-Frisbees. Get a good spin on one and you can sail it clear across a software engineering lab... And they make good coasters. Art On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Richard Pesant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The > first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The > second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my > own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word > doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. > Stability. > > > > Richard Pesant > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 > > To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White > > Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller > > Subject: RE: Framemaker uses > > > > I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering > > issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually > > works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay > > attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I > > like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is > > much easier to use. > > > > > > Jon Harvey > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > > (617) 588-9354 > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Framemaker uses
Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. Stability. Richard Pesant -Original Message- From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller Subject: RE: Framemaker uses I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is much easier to use. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framemaker uses
I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is much easier to use. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: Deirdre Reagan [mailto:deirdre.rea...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:16 AM To: Robin B White Cc: Jon Harvey; Frame Users; Leah Smaller Subject: Re: Framemaker uses Hi Robin/Will (?) I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can remember. Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. Deirdre On 5/12/08, Robin B White wrote: > Jon - > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. > > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge that you managed to harness one time. > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible to repair. > > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. > > will white > vialogy > > > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" wrote: > >Hi Leah, > > > >The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how > >to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it > >because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After > >years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended > >up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels > >deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > > > > > >Jon Harvey > >Manager, Desktop Documentation > >CambridgeSoft Corporation > >100 CambridgePark Drive > >Cambridge, MA 02140 > >(617) 588-9354 > >-Original Message- > >From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > >[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller > >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM > >To: Frame Users > >Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > > > >I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through > >Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but > >the numbering always got loused up. > > > >The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of > >8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , > >a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use > >autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left > >and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps > >and it is wonderful. > > > >Leah Smaller > >Technical Communicator > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner > >leah at compulite.com > > > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as jharvey at cambridgesoft.com. > > > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridge s > >oft.com > > > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as whitefamily at mac.com. > > > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.co m > > > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gma il.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
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I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is much easier to use. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: Deirdre Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:16 AM To: Robin B White Cc: Jon Harvey; Frame Users; Leah Smaller Subject: Re: Framemaker uses Hi Robin/Will (?) I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can remember. Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. Deirdre On 5/12/08, Robin B White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon - > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. > > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge that you managed to harness one time. > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible to repair. > > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. > > will white > vialogy > > > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi Leah, > > > >The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how > >to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it > >because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After > >years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended > >up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels > >deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > > > > > >Jon Harvey > >Manager, Desktop Documentation > >CambridgeSoft Corporation > >100 CambridgePark Drive > >Cambridge, MA 02140 > >(617) 588-9354 > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller > >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM > >To: Frame Users > >Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > > > >I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through > >Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but > >the numbering always got loused up. > > > >The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of > >8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , > >a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use > >autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left > >and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps > >and it is wonderful. > > > >Leah Smaller > >Technical Communicator > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridge s > >oft.com > > > >Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.co m > > > >Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or vis
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
I highly recommended using Sequential fields for numbering in Word. Read the one page in Word's help on Sequential fields. Then use the Tech-Tav macros (free) to quickly insert them. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Chinell, David F (GE EntSol, Security) wrote: > Lester: > > An excellent description of the "right" way to use Word's autonumbering > is available courtesy of Shauna Kelly. Here's the page on outline > numbering, but she has similar pages on bullets, single-level lists, and > many other Word features. > > http://shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html > > Bear > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as sbw at actcom.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Hi all: Someone, I think named Albert, asked for the Autonumbering Workshop I've been sending to people. The email has disappeared. So if you asked for the workshop and haven't received it, let me know. Thanks so much to everyone for their very nice comments about the workshop. Deirdre
FW: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
A further few references of the oldie-but-goodie variety. You may well find the principles useful even though some things about Word have changed over the years. SEVEN LAWS OF STYLES http://office-watch.com/office/archtemplate.asp?v4-n20 AUTOMATIC NUMBERING IN WORD http://office-watch.com/office/archtemplate.asp?v4-n21 THE SEVEN LAWS OF WORD'S OUTLINE NUMBERING www.matsu.nl/Files/sevenlaws.doc
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Also, in Word, you can lock documents to force users to use only the formatting you specifiy in a document. On 5/13/08, Mike Bradley wrote: > The tutorials are already on the web, Lester. You may have to search for them > a > bit. I no longer have the URLs. Maybe others on this list do. > > And as another poster replied, it's essential that everyone who touches a Word > doc knows how to handle the numbering (and uses the same Word template). > > = Mike Bradley > www.techpubs.com > > > > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Hi all: Someone, I think named Albert, asked for the Autonumbering Workshop I've been sending to people. The email has disappeared. So if you asked for the workshop and haven't received it, let me know. Thanks so much to everyone for their very nice comments about the workshop. Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FW: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
A further few references of the oldie-but-goodie variety. You may well find the principles useful even though some things about Word have changed over the years. SEVEN LAWS OF STYLES http://office-watch.com/office/archtemplate.asp?v4-n20 AUTOMATIC NUMBERING IN WORD http://office-watch.com/office/archtemplate.asp?v4-n21 THE SEVEN LAWS OF WORD'S OUTLINE NUMBERING www.matsu.nl/Files/sevenlaws.doc ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Also, in Word, you can lock documents to force users to use only the formatting you specifiy in a document. On 5/13/08, Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The tutorials are already on the web, Lester. You may have to search for them > a > bit. I no longer have the URLs. Maybe others on this list do. > > And as another poster replied, it's essential that everyone who touches a Word > doc knows how to handle the numbering (and uses the same Word template). > > = Mike Bradley > www.techpubs.com > > > > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
I highly recommended using Sequential fields for numbering in Word. Read the one page in Word's help on Sequential fields. Then use the Tech-Tav macros (free) to quickly insert them. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Chinell, David F (GE EntSol, Security) wrote: > Lester: > > An excellent description of the "right" way to use Word's autonumbering > is available courtesy of Shauna Kelly. Here's the page on outline > numbering, but she has similar pages on bullets, single-level lists, and > many other Word features. > > http://shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html > > Bear > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker Uses
Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. > > Thanks! > > Deirdre > ___ > I can't speak for Tabitha's husband, but mine wrote at least a dozen novels in Framemaker. In fact, I learned it so I could go in behind him and do clean up on his books before he sent them to his agent. -- Eva Whitley ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Lester: An excellent description of the "right" way to use Word's autonumbering is available courtesy of Shauna Kelly. Here's the page on outline numbering, but she has similar pages on bullets, single-level lists, and many other Word features. http://shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html Bear ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
The tutorials are already on the web, Lester. You may have to search for them a bit. I no longer have the URLs. Maybe others on this list do. And as another poster replied, it's essential that everyone who touches a Word doc knows how to handle the numbering (and uses the same Word template). = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framemaker Uses
Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. > > Thanks! > > Deirdre > ___ > I can't speak for Tabitha's husband, but mine wrote at least a dozen novels in Framemaker. In fact, I learned it so I could go in behind him and do clean up on his books before he sent them to his agent. -- Eva Whitley
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Lester C. Smalley wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, > would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified > procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this > list would benefit. I've asked for Deirdre's workshop, but can also offer this page of resources, in particular the "Word's numbering explained" FAQ. (Although you may wish you had never asked...) http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering.htm best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
And this site as well: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/index.html -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:14 PM To: Lester C. Smalley Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses) Lester C. Smalley wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because > if it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and > consistently, would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or > simplified procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many > folks on this list would benefit. I've asked for Deirdre's workshop, but can also offer this page of resources, in particular the "Word's numbering explained" FAQ. (Although you may wish you had never asked...) http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering.htm best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at healthlanguage.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40h ealthlanguage.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means.
RE: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
And this site as well: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/index.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:14 PM To: Lester C. Smalley Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses) Lester C. Smalley wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because > if it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and > consistently, would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or > simplified procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many > folks on this list would benefit. I've asked for Deirdre's workshop, but can also offer this page of resources, in particular the "Word's numbering explained" FAQ. (Although you may wish you had never asked...) http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering.htm best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40h ealthlanguage.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Lester: An excellent description of the "right" way to use Word's autonumbering is available courtesy of Shauna Kelly. Here's the page on outline numbering, but she has similar pages on bullets, single-level lists, and many other Word features. http://shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html Bear
Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Lester C. Smalley wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, > would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified > procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this > list would benefit. I've asked for Deirdre's workshop, but can also offer this page of resources, in particular the "Word's numbering explained" FAQ. (Although you may wish you had never asked...) http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering.htm best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Hi: I've had a number people ask for the workshop, and I've sent it on. The workshop is for formatting Headings 1 through 9. I will be writing up the directions for formatting other levels, such as 1., (1), a., (a), etc. The concepts are exactly the same, so if you get the Heading 1 - 9 logic, you can create the other levels. They just involve creating a new style for each new level, which is accomplished by right clicking New Style in the upper box of the Styles and Formatting dialog box, and naming the new style whatever you want. I tend to use Style1, Style2, etc. But as I said, I'll write up that workshop as well and send it on to anyone interested. Deirdre On 5/13/08, Lester C. Smalley wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, > would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified > procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this > list would benefit. > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2008 09:16 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > > | Hi Robin/Will (?) > | > | I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems > | with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can > | remember. > | > | Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. > | > | I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. > | > | Deirdre > | > | On 5/12/08, Robin B White wrote: > | > Jon - > | > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion > | > by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your > assertion. > | > > | > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is > | > because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge > | > that you managed to harness one time. > | > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed > | > the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is > impossible > | > to repair. > | > > | > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. > | > > | > will white > | > vialogy > | > > | > > | > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" > wrote: > | > > | > > Hi Leah, > | > > > | > > The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you > learn how > | > > to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly > use it > | > > because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). > | > > After years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it > and > | > > ended up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six > levels > | > > deep (Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > | > > > | > > > | > > Jon Harvey > | > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > | > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > | > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > | > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > | > > (617) 588-9354 > | > > > | > > -Original Message- > | > > From: Leah Smaller > | > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM > | > > To: Frame Users > | > > Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > | > > > | > > I use FrameMaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through > | > > Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in > MSWord, > | > > but the numbering always got loused up. > | > > > | > > The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally > consist > | > > of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, > b, c, > | > > 2 ,a, b etc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use > | > > autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the > | > > left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the > | > > main steps and it is wonderful. > | > > > | > >Leah Smaller > | > >Technical Communicator > | > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner > | > >leah at compulite.com > | > > > | > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own > | > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) > > - Lester > --- > Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com > Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 > Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com > --- > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Hi Lester and all: I have a workshop put together. If you'd like me to send it to you off-list, please email me and I will forward to you. Deirdre On 5/13/08, Lester C. Smalley wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, > would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified > procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this > list would benefit. >
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this list would benefit. On Tuesday, May 13, 2008 09:16 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: | Hi Robin/Will (?) | | I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems | with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can | remember. | | Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. | | I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. | | Deirdre | | On 5/12/08, Robin B White wrote: | > Jon - | > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion | > by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. | > | > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is | > because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge | > that you managed to harness one time. | > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed | > the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible | > to repair. | > | > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. | > | > will white | > vialogy | > | > | > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" wrote: | > | > > Hi Leah, | > > | > > The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how | > > to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it | > > because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). | > > After years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and | > > ended up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels | > > deep (Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. | > > | > > | > > Jon Harvey | > > Manager, Desktop Documentation | > > CambridgeSoft Corporation | > > 100 CambridgePark Drive | > > Cambridge, MA 02140 | > > (617) 588-9354 | > > | > > -Original Message- | > > From: Leah Smaller | > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM | > > To: Frame Users | > > Subject: Re: Framemaker uses | > > | > > I use FrameMaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through | > > Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, | > > but the numbering always got loused up. | > > | > > The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist | > > of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, | > > 2 ,a, b etc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use | > > autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the | > > left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the | > > main steps and it is wonderful. | > > | > >Leah Smaller | > >Technical Communicator | > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner | > >leah at compulite.com | > > | > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own | > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com ---
Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Hi: I've had a number people ask for the workshop, and I've sent it on. The workshop is for formatting Headings 1 through 9. I will be writing up the directions for formatting other levels, such as 1., (1), a., (a), etc. The concepts are exactly the same, so if you get the Heading 1 - 9 logic, you can create the other levels. They just involve creating a new style for each new level, which is accomplished by right clicking New Style in the upper box of the Styles and Formatting dialog box, and naming the new style whatever you want. I tend to use Style1, Style2, etc. But as I said, I'll write up that workshop as well and send it on to anyone interested. Deirdre On 5/13/08, Lester C. Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, > would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified > procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this > list would benefit. > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2008 09:16 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > > | Hi Robin/Will (?) > | > | I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems > | with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can > | remember. > | > | Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. > | > | I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. > | > | Deirdre > | > | On 5/12/08, Robin B White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > Jon - > | > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion > | > by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your > assertion. > | > > | > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is > | > because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge > | > that you managed to harness one time. > | > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed > | > the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is > impossible > | > to repair. > | > > | > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. > | > > | > will white > | > vialogy > | > > | > > | > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > > | > > Hi Leah, > | > > > | > > The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you > learn how > | > > to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly > use it > | > > because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). > | > > After years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it > and > | > > ended up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six > levels > | > > deep (Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > | > > > | > > > | > > Jon Harvey > | > > Manager, Desktop Documentation > | > > CambridgeSoft Corporation > | > > 100 CambridgePark Drive > | > > Cambridge, MA 02140 > | > > (617) 588-9354 > | > > > | > > -Original Message- > | > > From: Leah Smaller > | > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM > | > > To: Frame Users > | > > Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > | > > > | > > I use FrameMaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through > | > > Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in > MSWord, > | > > but the numbering always got loused up. > | > > > | > > The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally > consist > | > > of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, > b, c, > | > > 2 ,a, b etc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use > | > > autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the > | > > left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the > | > > main steps and it is wonderful. > | > > > | > >Leah Smaller > | > >Technical Communicator > | > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner > | > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > > > | > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own > | > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) > > - Lester > -
Re: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
Hi Lester and all: I have a workshop put together. If you'd like me to send it to you off-list, please email me and I will forward to you. Deirdre On 5/13/08, Lester C. Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. > > If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, > would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified > procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this > list would benefit. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
The tutorials are already on the web, Lester. You may have to search for them a bit. I no longer have the URLs. Maybe others on this list do. And as another poster replied, it's essential that everyone who touches a Word doc knows how to handle the numbering (and uses the same Word template). = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction.
Framemaker uses
Hi Robin/Will (?) I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can remember. Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. Deirdre On 5/12/08, Robin B White wrote: > Jon - > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion by > people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. > > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is because the > Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge that you managed to > harness one time. > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed the > autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible to repair. > > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. > > will white > vialogy > > > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" cambridgesoft.com> wrote: > >Hi Leah, > > > >The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how > >to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it > >because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After > >years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended > >up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels > >deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > > > > > >Jon Harvey > >Manager, Desktop Documentation > >CambridgeSoft Corporation > >100 CambridgePark Drive > >Cambridge, MA 02140 > >(617) 588-9354 > >-Original Message- > >From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > >[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller > >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM > >To: Frame Users > >Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > > > >I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through > >Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but > >the numbering always got loused up. > > > >The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of > >8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , > >a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use > >autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left > >and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps > >and it is wonderful. > > > >Leah Smaller > >Technical Communicator > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner > >leah at compulite.com > > > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as jharvey at cambridgesoft.com. > > > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges > >oft.com > > > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as whitefamily at mac.com. > > > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.com > > > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. If you folks who actually can get it to work, reliably and consistently, would not mind creating some sort of basic tutorial or simplified procedure list re numbering in Word, I'm sure a great many folks on this list would benefit. On Tuesday, May 13, 2008 09:16 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: | Hi Robin/Will (?) | | I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems | with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can | remember. | | Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. | | I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. | | Deirdre | | On 5/12/08, Robin B White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Jon - | > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion | > by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. | > | > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is | > because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge | > that you managed to harness one time. | > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed | > the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible | > to repair. | > | > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. | > | > will white | > vialogy | > | > | > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | > > Hi Leah, | > > | > > The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how | > > to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it | > > because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). | > > After years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and | > > ended up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels | > > deep (Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. | > > | > > | > > Jon Harvey | > > Manager, Desktop Documentation | > > CambridgeSoft Corporation | > > 100 CambridgePark Drive | > > Cambridge, MA 02140 | > > (617) 588-9354 | > > | > > -Original Message- | > > From: Leah Smaller | > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM | > > To: Frame Users | > > Subject: Re: Framemaker uses | > > | > > I use FrameMaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through | > > Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, | > > but the numbering always got loused up. | > > | > > The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist | > > of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, | > > 2 ,a, b etc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use | > > autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the | > > left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the | > > main steps and it is wonderful. | > > | > >Leah Smaller | > >Technical Communicator | > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner | > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > | > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own | > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker uses
Hi Robin/Will (?) I use autonumbering in Word all the time and have very few problems with it. I've repaired more bolloxed autonumbering jobs than I can remember. Autonumbering in Word is fairly easy, once one knows how to do it. I'd be happy to help anyone who needs help with autonumbering. Deirdre On 5/12/08, Robin B White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon - > Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion by > people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. > > The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is because the > Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge that you managed to > harness one time. > If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed the > autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible to repair. > > Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. > > will white > vialogy > > > On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi Leah, > > > >The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how > >to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it > >because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After > >years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended > >up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels > >deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > > > > > >Jon Harvey > >Manager, Desktop Documentation > >CambridgeSoft Corporation > >100 CambridgePark Drive > >Cambridge, MA 02140 > >(617) 588-9354 > >-----Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller > >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM > >To: Frame Users > >Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > > > >I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through > >Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but > >the numbering always got loused up. > > > >The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of > >8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , > >a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use > >autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left > >and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps > >and it is wonderful. > > > >Leah Smaller > >Technical Communicator > >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own > >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges > >oft.com > > > >Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.com > > > >Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Jon - Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge that you managed to harness one time. If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible to repair. Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. will white vialogy On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Leah, > >The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how >to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it >because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After >years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended >up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels >deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > > >Jon Harvey >Manager, Desktop Documentation >CambridgeSoft Corporation >100 CambridgePark Drive >Cambridge, MA 02140 >(617) 588-9354 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM >To: Frame Users >Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > >I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through >Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but >the numbering always got loused up. > >The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of >8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , >a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use >autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left >and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps >and it is wonderful. > >Leah Smaller >Technical Communicator >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges >oft.com > >Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.com > >Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Jon - Sorry, but I have to disagree. The huge amount of on-line discussion by people struggling with Word's numbering contradicts your assertion. The only reason that your numbering coup was a achievement is because the Word autonumbering implementation is a miserable kludge that you managed to harness one time. If you ever have to inherit a Word file where someone has bollixed the autonumbering scheme, you will find that the document is impossible to repair. Pulling off the same thing in FM is, well, child's play. will white vialogy On Monday, May 12, 2008, at 11:46AM, "Jon Harvey" wrote: >Hi Leah, > >The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how >to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it >because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After >years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended >up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels >deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. > > >Jon Harvey >Manager, Desktop Documentation >CambridgeSoft Corporation >100 CambridgePark Drive >Cambridge, MA 02140 >(617) 588-9354 >-Original Message- >From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM >To: Frame Users >Subject: Re: Framemaker uses > >I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through >Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but >the numbering always got loused up. > >The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of >8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , >a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use >autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left >and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps >and it is wonderful. > >Leah Smaller >Technical Communicator >Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner >leah at compulite.com > >"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own >discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as jharvey at cambridgesoft.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges >oft.com > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as whitefamily at mac.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.com > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
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Hi Leah, The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: Framemaker uses I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but the numbering always got loused up. The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps and it is wonderful. Leah Smaller Technical Communicator Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner leah at compulite.com "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jharvey at cambridgesoft.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges oft.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but the numbering always got loused up. The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps and it is wonderful. Leah Smaller Technical Communicator Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner leah at compulite.com "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
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Hi Leah, The MSWord numbering feature is actually pretty good once you learn how to use it. The hard part is just that, learning how to properly use it because it is definitely not intuitive (read: stupidly designed). After years of using Word 2003, I finally discovered how to use it and ended up autonumbering a 150-page document with headings six levels deep(Heading 1.2.3.4.5.6.). It worked great. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leah Smaller Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:10 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: Framemaker uses I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but the numbering always got loused up. The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps and it is wonderful. Leah Smaller Technical Communicator Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner [EMAIL PROTECTED] "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges oft.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I use Framemaker to write my Feldenkrais ATM (Awareness Through Movement) lessons. I actually tried to write the lessons in MSWord, but the numbering always got loused up. The numbering is actually complicated. The lessons generally consist of 8 main steps and each step has sub-steps. I number them 1, a, b, c, 2 , a, betc. This probably sounds simple - easy peasy, use autonumbering, but many times a step can be repeated (once on the left and once on the right). So, I used pgfs for the numbering the main steps and it is wonderful. Leah Smaller Technical Communicator Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner [EMAIL PROTECTED] "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I've used FM to write training documents for my union. I can't do it as much as I'd like to because, of course, not many folks have FM and they wouldn't be able to maintain the docs. But the union has a group of tech writer members, so when I write for them, I can use it. - Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Hi Deirdre I've used Frame since 1992 for a variety of different products, including tons of white papers, manuals, training guides, technical marketing materials, policies, procedures, reports, spec sheets and the like. During the past few years, I've focused on using unstructured Frame for single sourced projects with multiple outputs such as print documentation, online help, print-friendly PDFs, online-friendly PDFs, etc. All the documents I've created have relied heavily on numbering, cross-referencing, consistency in terminology, have short creation deadlines and even shorter editing deadlines. For one document, a user guide of over 6500 pages, we were able to turn on a dime when we had over 2500 pages completed...we strictly enforced the use of character and paragragh tags, variables and cross references. When the client's legal time wanted the product name to always have a trademark, it was changed within minutes of the request. And when a manager decided we absolutely *must* use different formatting for the keys pressed, it was completed in minutes and all remaining content was matched to the new standards with no muss, no fuss. I can't say I would use for products that required fine layout techniques and especially not for documents with heavy footnoting requirements. It positively sucks for those! My most recent project is using Frame to single source a series of policies and procedures for over 18 plants. The materials are at least 50-60% reusable and we're using standard, unstructured Frame features to handle the changes that are made on a plant by plant basis. Although the end users protested at first, they were won over when they found out about the neat new things they could get (everything from not being responsible for writing and maintaining the content to hotlinked references to the relevant regulatory local, state, and federal codes! Hope this helps Jerilynne Knight Simply Written, Inc.
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Hi Deirdre I've used Frame since 1992 for a variety of different products, including tons of white papers, manuals, training guides, technical marketing materials, policies, procedures, reports, spec sheets and the like. During the past few years, I've focused on using unstructured Frame for single sourced projects with multiple outputs such as print documentation, online help, print-friendly PDFs, online-friendly PDFs, etc. All the documents I've created have relied heavily on numbering, cross-referencing, consistency in terminology, have short creation deadlines and even shorter editing deadlines. For one document, a user guide of over 6500 pages, we were able to turn on a dime when we had over 2500 pages completed...we strictly enforced the use of character and paragragh tags, variables and cross references. When the client's legal time wanted the product name to always have a trademark, it was changed within minutes of the request. And when a manager decided we absolutely *must* use different formatting for the keys pressed, it was completed in minutes and all remaining content was matched to the new standards with no muss, no fuss. I can't say I would use for products that required fine layout techniques and especially not for documents with heavy footnoting requirements. It positively sucks for those! My most recent project is using Frame to single source a series of policies and procedures for over 18 plants. The materials are at least 50-60% reusable and we're using standard, unstructured Frame features to handle the changes that are made on a plant by plant basis. Although the end users protested at first, they were won over when they found out about the neat new things they could get (everything from not being responsible for writing and maintaining the content to hotlinked references to the relevant regulatory local, state, and federal codes! Hope this helps Jerilynne Knight Simply Written, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I've used FM to write training documents for my union. I can't do it as much as I'd like to because, of course, not many folks have FM and they wouldn't be able to maintain the docs. But the union has a group of tech writer members, so when I write for them, I can use it. - Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
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>Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in >Framemaker? Besides research papers, meeting minutes, etc., I wrote a logic textbook in FM3 and 4 and a more advanced research monograph in FM7. Lots of numbered examples, xrefs to them, fair number of line diagrams, and in the latter case (unfortunately) lots of footnotes. In doing the textbook I switched from a then-unstable word processor with an idiosyncratic xref add-on, but decent footnotes and search/replace to die for, namely, Nisus, and what a godsend FM's stable anchored frames and xref capacities were. And what a nightmare its incorrectly programmed footnote procedures have been ever since. I honestly think FM would own the academic market by now if its owners had ever put the effort into fixing the footnotes. Graeme Forbes
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>Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in >Framemaker? Besides research papers, meeting minutes, etc., I wrote a logic textbook in FM3 and 4 and a more advanced research monograph in FM7. Lots of numbered examples, xrefs to them, fair number of line diagrams, and in the latter case (unfortunately) lots of footnotes. In doing the textbook I switched from a then-unstable word processor with an idiosyncratic xref add-on, but decent footnotes and search/replace to die for, namely, Nisus, and what a godsend FM's stable anchored frames and xref capacities were. And what a nightmare its incorrectly programmed footnote procedures have been ever since. I honestly think FM would own the academic market by now if its owners had ever put the effort into fixing the footnotes. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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For my company: Operations Manuals of all sorts, some forms, even the odd report. More and more are On the side: New Testament, Psalms and Proverbia (all structured). Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what > applications. > > Thanks! > > Deirdre > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious." -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
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Hi Deirdre: No one's mentioned this yet, so I'll add for all the single-sourcing people out there that FrameMaker is wonderful for writing things once and using it many times. Whether you're using conditional text and variables so that some stuff only shows up in certain flavours of manuals, or text insets so that a piece of text can be used by different manuals, or generating HTML and PDF from the same FrameMaker document, it's all called single-sourcing and it saves a lot of time and effort. Then there's the whole structured and XML side of FrameMaker, which can also be a huge timesaver. In a nutshell, it automates a lot of the tedious formatting tasks for you. Round-tripping to XML also means that people who don't have FrameMaker can still work on the documents. Also, you can develop scripts to produce the XML that is subsequently opened in FrameMaker where the formatting is automatically applied. All this intro is to say that I'm using FrameMaker on software manuals, but some of the contents are generated from programming code as XML files, and some of the Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) are working in XML. I'm producing HTML for Eclipse help and PDFs. We have eight product lines, so I'm re-using a lot of the material for two or more products, and I can manage all this as a lone writer working 3/4 time because of FrameMaker and its add-ons. Fei Min "Deirdre Reagan" Sent by: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 05/07/2008 12:06 PM To "Frame Users" cc Subject Framemaker Uses Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as FeiMin_Lorente at amis.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin_lorente%40amis.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Once upon a time I used to create the company newsletter (A5 booklet) in FrameMaker. If ever there was a way to find the limitations of the mighty FM... It was a painful experience (that was for version 4 mind you). Gordon -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan Sent: 07 May 2008 17:05 To: Frame Users Subject: Framemaker Uses Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Gordon.McLean at grahamtechnology.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gordon.mclean%40grahamte chnology.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology Ltd - Part of the Sword Group Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com
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Hi Deirdre: No one's mentioned this yet, so I'll add for all the single-sourcing people out there that FrameMaker is wonderful for writing things once and using it many times. Whether you're using conditional text and variables so that some stuff only shows up in certain flavours of manuals, or text insets so that a piece of text can be used by different manuals, or generating HTML and PDF from the same FrameMaker document, it's all called single-sourcing and it saves a lot of time and effort. Then there's the whole structured and XML side of FrameMaker, which can also be a huge timesaver. In a nutshell, it automates a lot of the tedious formatting tasks for you. Round-tripping to XML also means that people who don't have FrameMaker can still work on the documents. Also, you can develop scripts to produce the XML that is subsequently opened in FrameMaker where the formatting is automatically applied. All this intro is to say that I'm using FrameMaker on software manuals, but some of the contents are generated from programming code as XML files, and some of the Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) are working in XML. I'm producing HTML for Eclipse help and PDFs. We have eight product lines, so I'm re-using a lot of the material for two or more products, and I can manage all this as a lone writer working 3/4 time because of FrameMaker and its add-ons. Fei Min "Deirdre Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/2008 12:06 PM To "Frame Users" cc Subject Framemaker Uses Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin_lorente%40amis.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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For my company: Operations Manuals of all sorts, some forms, even the odd report. More and more are On the side: New Testament, Psalms and Proverbia (all structured). Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what > applications. > > Thanks! > > Deirdre > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious." -- Edsel Murphy, dec. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Once upon a time I used to create the company newsletter (A5 booklet) in FrameMaker. If ever there was a way to find the limitations of the mighty FM... It was a painful experience (that was for version 4 mind you). Gordon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan Sent: 07 May 2008 17:05 To: Frame Users Subject: Framemaker Uses Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gordon.mclean%40grahamte chnology.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology Ltd - Part of the Sword Group Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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We are creating 1000+-page catalogs of industrial supplies (hammers, gloves, ladders, mig welders, etc.). Both color and grayscale. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swhite at alamark.com On May 7, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Pat Christenson wrote: > I can't speak for fiction or magazines but I do layout of technical > books for a couple of commercial publishers. They both have the > authors writing in Word using a very simple template. (The thinking > is: The books are written by subject matter experts who are not > necessarily technical writers. "Almost everyone" has Word; very few > have FrameMaker or other layout applications, nor would they be > willing to purchase anything as pricey as Frame. In any case, the > publishers prefer the writers not to focus on design.) > > Once the content is final, it's turned over to a compositor (me or > someone like me) who then lays it out for press. In my experience, > more of these books are laid out in Quark or InDesign than in > FrameMaker. > > FrameMaker is widely used by corporate pubs or tech pubs groups to > produce manuals such as you describe (Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft > Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts > Catalogs). > > Hope that helps - > > Pat Christenson > > > > > On May 7, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing >> in >> Framemaker? >> >> Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component >> Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram >> Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. >> >> Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen >> King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour >> use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there >> websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? >> >> I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what >> applications. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Deirdre >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as pxenson at comcast.net. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson >> %40comcast.net >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swhite at alamark.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Framemaker Uses
Now that Rene mentions it ... When I wrote "SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed," a
couple years ago, my editors at Sams Publishing said they accepted FM
and Word files, but since it was a Linux book, doing it in Frame wasn't
practical (way too much rebooting involved). For the 2nd edition
("openSUSE Linux Unleashed"--in better bookstores everywhere now), I
didn't even think about it.
But I would guess that more than one book from
Sams/Prentice-Hall/Peachpit/whoever else is in that part of the
publishing universe has been written using FrameMaker.
Mike McCallister ("Michael" on the book covers)
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:19 PM
To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
Subject: Re: Framemaker Uses
One would think Vogue would be sourced in Quark... :)}
Does JoAnn Hackos use FM to write her books...?
I know of some who use FM for catalogs, though, as well as others who
write in FM for the airline industry. :-)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Deirdre Reagan
To: Frame Users
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:04:51 PM
Subject: Framemaker Uses
Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in
Framemaker?
Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component
Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram
Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs.
Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King
writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use
Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there
websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment?
I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what
applications.
Thanks!
Deirdre
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We are creating 1000+-page catalogs of industrial supplies (hammers, gloves, ladders, mig welders, etc.). Both color and grayscale. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 7, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Pat Christenson wrote: > I can't speak for fiction or magazines but I do layout of technical > books for a couple of commercial publishers. They both have the > authors writing in Word using a very simple template. (The thinking > is: The books are written by subject matter experts who are not > necessarily technical writers. "Almost everyone" has Word; very few > have FrameMaker or other layout applications, nor would they be > willing to purchase anything as pricey as Frame. In any case, the > publishers prefer the writers not to focus on design.) > > Once the content is final, it's turned over to a compositor (me or > someone like me) who then lays it out for press. In my experience, > more of these books are laid out in Quark or InDesign than in > FrameMaker. > > FrameMaker is widely used by corporate pubs or tech pubs groups to > produce manuals such as you describe (Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft > Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts > Catalogs). > > Hope that helps - > > Pat Christenson > > > > > On May 7, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing >> in >> Framemaker? >> >> Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component >> Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram >> Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. >> >> Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen >> King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour >> use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there >> websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? >> >> I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what >> applications. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Deirdre >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson >> %40comcast.net >> >> Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I can't speak for fiction or magazines but I do layout of technical books for a couple of commercial publishers. They both have the authors writing in Word using a very simple template. (The thinking is: The books are written by subject matter experts who are not necessarily technical writers. "Almost everyone" has Word; very few have FrameMaker or other layout applications, nor would they be willing to purchase anything as pricey as Frame. In any case, the publishers prefer the writers not to focus on design.) Once the content is final, it's turned over to a compositor (me or someone like me) who then lays it out for press. In my experience, more of these books are laid out in Quark or InDesign than in FrameMaker. FrameMaker is widely used by corporate pubs or tech pubs groups to produce manuals such as you describe (Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs). Hope that helps - Pat Christenson On May 7, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what > applications. > > Thanks! > > Deirdre > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson > %40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I can't speak for fiction or magazines but I do layout of technical books for a couple of commercial publishers. They both have the authors writing in Word using a very simple template. (The thinking is: The books are written by subject matter experts who are not necessarily technical writers. "Almost everyone" has Word; very few have FrameMaker or other layout applications, nor would they be willing to purchase anything as pricey as Frame. In any case, the publishers prefer the writers not to focus on design.) Once the content is final, it's turned over to a compositor (me or someone like me) who then lays it out for press. In my experience, more of these books are laid out in Quark or InDesign than in FrameMaker. FrameMaker is widely used by corporate pubs or tech pubs groups to produce manuals such as you describe (Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs). Hope that helps - Pat Christenson On May 7, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what > applications. > > Thanks! > > Deirdre > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as pxenson at comcast.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pxenson > %40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Framemaker Uses
Now that Rene mentions it ... When I wrote "SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed," a
couple years ago, my editors at Sams Publishing said they accepted FM
and Word files, but since it was a Linux book, doing it in Frame wasn't
practical (way too much rebooting involved). For the 2nd edition
("openSUSE Linux Unleashed"--in better bookstores everywhere now), I
didn't even think about it.
But I would guess that more than one book from
Sams/Prentice-Hall/Peachpit/whoever else is in that part of the
publishing universe has been written using FrameMaker.
Mike McCallister ("Michael" on the book covers)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:19 PM
To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
Subject: Re: Framemaker Uses
One would think Vogue would be sourced in Quark... :)}
Does JoAnn Hackos use FM to write her books...?
I know of some who use FM for catalogs, though, as well as others who
write in FM for the airline industry. :-)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Frame Users
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:04:51 PM
Subject: Framemaker Uses
Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in
Framemaker?
Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component
Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram
Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs.
Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King
writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use
Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there
websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment?
I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what
applications.
Thanks!
Deirdre
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One would think Vogue would be sourced in Quark... :)} Does JoAnn Hackos use FM to write her books...? I know of some who use FM for catalogs, though, as well as others who write in FM for the airline industry. :-) Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Frame Users Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:04:51 PM Subject: Framemaker Uses Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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One would think Vogue would be sourced in Quark... :)} Does JoAnn Hackos use FM to write her books...? I know of some who use FM for catalogs, though, as well as others who write in FM for the airline industry. :-) Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: Deirdre Reagan To: Frame Users Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:04:51 PM Subject: Framemaker Uses Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre
RE: Framemaker Uses
The company I work for, Aeris Communications, Inc., is in the telecom industry, providing Machine-2-Machine networks across North America (USA, Canada and Mexico). We produce our interface API documentation, various white papers, etc., using FrameMaker. I am the only user of it here (but we are looking for a Sr. Tech Writer contractor in Marketing who would use it). Many small papers and documents (generally 5 to 20 pages each) in the Marketing department are done with Word 2003 and 2007. No website stuff, no books (unless you consider one of my larger 200 page API document to be a book :)), no famous writers writing spine-chillers, no magazines ... Z > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Deirdre Reagan > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:05 AM > To: Frame Users > Subject: Framemaker Uses > > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framemaker Uses
The company I work for, Aeris Communications, Inc., is in the telecom industry, providing Machine-2-Machine networks across North America (USA, Canada and Mexico). We produce our interface API documentation, various white papers, etc., using FrameMaker. I am the only user of it here (but we are looking for a Sr. Tech Writer contractor in Marketing who would use it). Many small papers and documents (generally 5 to 20 pages each) in the Marketing department are done with Word 2003 and 2007. No website stuff, no books (unless you consider one of my larger 200 page API document to be a book :)), no famous writers writing spine-chillers, no magazines ... Z > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Deirdre Reagan > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:05 AM > To: Frame Users > Subject: Framemaker Uses > > Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in > Framemaker? > > Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component > Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram > Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. > > Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen > King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour > use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there > websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? > > I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications.
Framemaker Uses
Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in Framemaker? Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs. Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker? Is Stephen King writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker? Does Anna Wintour use Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment? I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what applications. Thanks! Deirdre ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
