Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-03-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I figure anyone who owns a copy of FrameMaker 7 and MIF2Go has adequate technical chops to deal with continuing to use them in Windows 7. Adobe hasn't fixed most of the bugs that affect me, and they've added many more. FrameMaker is not 64-bit and probably never will be given that under the hood

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-28 Thread Davis, David
y a false economy, either on the enterprise or the individual scale. David Message: 3 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:19:22 -0800 From: Robert Lauriston To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; ch

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
I own FrameMaker 6, Acrobat 8, Photoshop 5, Illustrator 7, and various more obscure apps of similar vintage. They all work fine for my purposes and upgrading would be not just a waste of money but a waste of time having to get used to UI changes. Buying a newer version of something because I neede

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-25 Thread Davis, David
: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The subject of this thread is "Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7" and the opening post specifically mention

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-25 Thread Robert Lauriston
I typically have 10-15 applications running and if I come close to using 4GB it's a sign that one of my apps (usually Firefox) has a memory leak. As I noted earlier, I ran 64-bit Windows at work for a year and a half and performance was indistinguishable from my 32-bit system at home, and at work I

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-22 Thread Harding, Dan
n...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:50 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 I think buying more than 4GB of RAM would be a waste of money for most tech writers. The only thing I

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-20 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
amers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:43 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 The subject of this thread is "Compatibil

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
The subject of this thread is "Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7" and the opening post specifically mentioned FM7 and Acrobat 7, which do have problems with 64-bit Windows. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: > most people do not use

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-20 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
2014 12:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 That's a false generalization. The 4MB in my several Windows systems is twice as much as I have ever needed. On the Mac I'm testing large-footprint server software in multiple

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's a false generalization. The 4MB in my several Windows systems is twice as much as I have ever needed. On the Mac I'm testing large-footprint server software in multiple VMs, so 8GB is cramped, but if I could swap my Mac for had two real PCs running 32-bit Linux with 4GB each I'd have better

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
If you're using only half the RAM you have, as is the case for my 4GB Windows systems, adding more won't speed things up. If you load more software than will fit in the amount of RAM you have, your system will slow down so much it might as well have crashed. That happened to me at work the other d

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
RAM at once, which is > only possible on a 64 bit OS. You can expect hugely better performance in > that scenario kind of scenario with 64 bit. If you're not seeing it then that > suggests to me that something's not configured right on your PC..... > > > > Message:

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-19 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
RAM is very cheap now-a-days, and your computers runs much faster with more RAM. It's a much more pleasant experience. Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Feb-14 3:52 PM, Harro de Jong wrote: Robert Lauriston wrote: I think buying more than 4GB of RAM would be a waste of mo

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-18 Thread Harro de Jong
Robert Lauriston wrote: > I think buying more than 4GB of RAM would be a waste of money for most tech > writers. There's one exception I'm running into at the moment: working with 3d CAD files. I'm using Solidworks Explorer to generate images for a manual; with the entire machine model loade

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-18 Thread Davis, David
bit. If you're not seeing it then that suggests to me that something's not configured right on your PC. Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:49:35 -0800 From: Robert Lauriston To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 M

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
a risky strategy to use obsolete software for > things that you rely on to get your work done. > There'll be no vendor support. > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:02:18 -0800 > From: Robert Lauriston > To: "

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 I think buying more than 4GB of RAM would

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-14 Thread Davis, David
There'll be no vendor support. -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:02:18 -0800 From: Robert Lauriston To: "Davis, David" , "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 Message-ID: C

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
I think buying more than 4GB of RAM would be a waste of money for most tech writers. The only thing I've done in my work where I've needed more than 4GB is testing server applications with large memory footprints. The rest of the time I'm not using even half my 4GB. Outside of work I run music so

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
The memory limit is per process. There are various ways that 32-bit applications that need more than 2GB of memory (which few do) can use it in 32-bit Windows. I worked for 18 months with 64-bit Windows 7 at work and 32-bit Windows 7 at home. I saw no performance difference. I had both 64-bit and

RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Helen Borrie said: > Just a point to those encouraging Carrie to "install as 64-bit" - there's no > way you can make a 32-bit application install or run as 64-bit. You are correct, but ... I think the suggestions have been to install the Windows 7 OS itself as 64-bit, not the application, on mo

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-11 Thread Helen Borrie
At 12:47 a.m. 7/02/2014, Carrie Baker wrote: >Hello, > >I don't think I am the only person with oldish software. > >I work in a fairly small company, as a single technical writer. > >I have FrameMaker 7, and use with Acrobat 7. I have FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 8 (jumped over from FM6 and Acro6,

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-11 Thread Lise Bible
n that couldn't work in XP mode like this, even 16 > bit (!) ones designed to run on Windows 3.1. > > David > > -- > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 09:57:44 -0800 > From: Robert Lauriston > To: Carrie Baker ,

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-11 Thread Davis, David
-0800 From: Robert Lauriston To: Carrie Baker , "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Install Windows 7 32-bit rather than 64-bit, fewer potential compatibil

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-08 Thread Robert Lauriston
Install Windows 7 32-bit rather than 64-bit, fewer potential compatibility problems. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to fram

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:32:17 +0200, Carrie Baker wrote: >Thanks Jeremy > >Will the latest version of Mif2go work with all this, or should I stay with >the one I am currently using? As long as the one you are using works, and you have no requirements a newer one supports better, stay with what wor

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-06 Thread Carrie Baker
Thanks Jeremy Will the latest version of Mif2go work with all this, or should I stay with the one I am currently using? On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 13:47:22 +0200, Carrie Baker > wrote: > > >I have FrameMaker 7, and use with Acrobat 7. > > >

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 13:47:22 +0200, Carrie Baker wrote: >I have FrameMaker 7, and use with Acrobat 7. > >I create PDF files for distribution and help files with Webworks ePublisher >Pro version 9.02 > >I am also using a version of MIF2Go from a few years ago (I do have a newer >one, but once every

Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

2014-02-06 Thread Scott Turner
Expect to pay full price on all upgrades. Other than that, everything is still basically the same with a different look and feel. Scott T > On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:47, Carrie Baker wrote: > > Hello, > > I don't think I am the only person with oldish software. > > I work in a fairly small co