Are you saying that TeXLive is sort of a flavor of LaTex, not an editor
like TeXstudio?
Is it compatible with TeXstudio?
Do you use an authoring tool with TeXLive other that a simple text editor?
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
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On 29-Oct-13 8:15 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
My biggest kvetch about all the structured doc tools I've seen (and I've been
using them as far back as IBM's BookMaster) is that they generally output like
sausage machines.
All the text is simply extruded onto the page, with no awareness of how people
read documents or process information.
It
Lots of structured authoring tools, including FrameMaker, offer a
WYSIWYG presentation. I don't see people moving away from that since
it's a lot more efficient to fix formatting problems on the fly.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
Mike's comment is
No, he's saying that TeX Live (the name is officially two words, BTW, which is
kind of refreshing in the CamelCaseWorld of TeX and LaTeX) is a *distribution*
of TeX, in the same sense that Debian and Ubuntu and Fedora (from Red Hat) are
distributions of Linux. TeX Live is a collection of
Fred,
You have described TeX Live very well, so I will only add a few more words
based on my recent experiences with it.
1. Although there are a few distributions listed on the CTAN web site, the
TeX Live package has proven effective for me, even though they recommended a
different one
While others have answered your question I too would add:
FrameMaker used to have all these interfaces that you would open to
perform work of various kinds, running as separate programs, kind of.
TeX and friends do that too. In that sense, you can use whatever text
editor/interface you prefer.
Thanks for the tip on LaTex. It's nice
to know there is a free alternative to FrameMaker, which has
become very overpriced lately. They went from $400 for an upgrade
every 2 or 3 versions to $400 to upgrade only one version.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Isn't LaTex a non-WYSIWYG application, though? I can't imagine working
that way in this century. I don't think I've done that since Wordstar. :)
Mike Wickham
It's nice to know there is a free alternative to FrameMaker, which
has become very overpriced lately. They went from $400 for an
? Isn't LaTex a non-WYSIWYG application, though? I can't imagine working that
way in this century. I don't think I've done that since Wordstar. :)
? Mike Wickham
Absolutely correct that it is non-WYSIWYG for the text input. So, it does
require a change in thinking when writing.
However,
At 21:02 -0500 28/10/13, Mike Wickham wrote:
Nobody needs PDF unless they want to create documents that will retain fonts
and formatting to display identically on every computer. But if you want that,
you want PDF-- and you probably want Acrobat because it is the most stable and
full-featured.
Mike's comment is interesting light of the fact that many people are moving
away from WSIWYG in this century. The whole XML-authoring world, with DITA,
S1000D, DocBook, etc., is a move away from WSIWYG authoring tools.
Increasingly, authoring content is being separated from rendering it for
I'm in that crowd, too. My books go to press and I use Acrobat to
generate my PDF. I'm sure third party choices could work well, too, but
I prefer Acrobat. (That could change if Adobe takes it to a
subscription-only model.)
Mike Wickham
On 10/29/2013 10:14 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
At 21:02
Hiya,
TeXLive is a distribution of the TeX, LaTeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, etc.
typesetting systems. It is multiplatform (that is, it can be used on
vertualy all computer platforms). The main installation schemes are for
Windows and Mac but many others also exist for various linux flavours.
It is
Unless/when print technologies change, then you might need that step.
Until then your existing Acrobat will continue to work with the old
license. I still run a #8 version on an old computer.
Alan
On 30/10/13 5:54 AM, Mike Wickham wrote:
I'm in that crowd, too. My books go to press and I
PDF generation with intra-document references is one of the limitations in
Adobe Acrobat equivalents from other sources (when used with FrameMaker) - Rick
Quatro had mentioned this in a response to one of my earlier posts too.
However, from TeXstudio (i.e., when using LaTeX), I can get
On 30/10/13 7:25 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
PDF generation with intra-document references is one of the limitations in
Adobe Acrobat equivalents from other sources (when used with FrameMaker) - Rick
Quatro had mentioned this in a response to one of my earlier posts
That looks good indeed - the description is exactly what I want! I will have to
try it out.
Thanks much,
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:46 AM
Uh slap on side of head dummy me - hyperref is what I am already using. Just
haven't explored all the options yet ...
Z
That looks good indeed - the description is exactly what I want! I will have
to try it out.
Thanks much,
Z
On 30/10/13 7:25 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Joseph.
You are not the only one who is abandoning FrameMaker ... if you look at my
posts in the past months, I have done the same although I have been using it
since 1988 off and on. I am still on the list for old times sake, though. :)
Please do send me your detailed reasons in an
Joseph:
I understand this, but I'm sorry to see you go.
Please include me on your mailing list of the explanations.
Nadine
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net
To: Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com; FrameMaker Forum
Interestingly, Syed's comments mirror my own trajectory but I have been
using LaTeX et al for as long as I have been using FrameMaker.
I doubt I will be moving past version 10 unless my clients continue to
request I upgrade (to match compatibility with their software). I doubt
I will be
Why not share your reasons for migrating with the list? It's not like
this is a fan club, I think a lot of FM users are looking for a
practical migration path. It would be interesting to hear a current
comparison of the two.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com
Joseph, I would be grateful to be included in your explanation list.
To the LaTex advocates: What version/product/learning tools and resources have
you found most useful? I'm not at all interested in
going back to some coding-oriented environment.
It occurs to me that leaving FrameMaker cuts
Well...
On 29/10/13 1:33 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote:
To the LaTex advocates: What version/product/learning tools and
resources have you found most useful? I’m not at all interested in
going back to some coding-oriented environment.
Since I use Mac and Windows I use TeXLive that provides
There are plenty of alternatives even with FM, as long as you use Print
. . . rather than Save as PDF. I have Acrobat at home but use
CutePDF as a printer on my university machine.
Michael Lewis
Macquarie University
On 2013/10/29 11:33, VLM TechSubs wrote:
It occurs to me that leaving
VLM TechSubs wrote:
It occurs to me that leaving FrameMaker cuts one’s last tie to Adobe
Acrobat, as well. One may need Acrobat to publish from Adobe
applications, but not to publish from anyplace else, of which I am aware.
Adobe applications don't tie you to Acrobat. FM includes a
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