While others have answered your question I too would add:
FrameMaker used to have all these interfaces that you would open to
perform work of various kinds, running as separate programs, kind of.
TeX and friends do that too. In that sense, you can use whatever text
editor/interface you prefer.
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> Are you saying that TeXLive is sort of
in the TeX chaos of hundreds of separate pieces of software from
dozens of different sources...
-Fred Ridder
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> Subject: Re: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Mig
Lots of structured authoring tools, including FrameMaker, offer a
WYSIWYG presentation. I don't see people moving away from that since
it's a lot more efficient to fix formatting problems on the fly.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Mike's comment is interesting light of the
My biggest kvetch about all the structured doc tools I've seen (and I've been
using them as far back as IBM's "BookMaster") is that they generally output like
sausage machines.
All the text is simply extruded onto the page, with no awareness of how people
read documents or process information.
It
Are you saying that TeXLive is sort of a flavor of LaTex, not an editor
like TeXstudio?
Is it compatible with TeXstudio?
Do you use an authoring tool with TeXLive other that a simple text editor?
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Shmuel Wolfson
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On 29-Oct-13 8:15 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
Uh dummy me - hyperref is what I am already using. Just
haven't explored all the options yet ...
Z
> That looks good indeed - the description is exactly what I want! I will have
> to try it out.
> Thanks much,
> Z
On 30/10/13 7:25 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> PDF g
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Subject: Re: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to
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On 30/10/13 7:25 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> PDF generation with intra-document references is one of the limitations in
> Adobe Acrobat equivalent
On 30/10/13 7:25 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
PDF generation with intra-document references is one of the limitations in
Adobe Acrobat equivalents from other sources (when used with FrameMaker) - Rick
Quatro had mentioned this in a response to one of my earlier posts to
PDF generation with intra-document references is one of the limitations in
Adobe Acrobat equivalents from other sources (when used with FrameMaker) - Rick
Quatro had mentioned this in a response to one of my earlier posts too.
However, from TeXstudio (i.e., when using LaTeX), I can get intra-doc
Unless/when print technologies change, then you might need that step.
Until then your existing Acrobat will continue to work with the old
license. I still run a #8 version on an old computer.
Alan
On 30/10/13 5:54 AM, Mike Wickham wrote:
I'm in that crowd, too. My books go to press and I use
Hiya,
TeXLive is a distribution of the TeX, LaTeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, etc.
typesetting systems. It is multiplatform (that is, it can be used on
vertualy all computer platforms). The main installation schemes are for
Windows and Mac but many others also exist for various linux flavours.
It is fre
I'm in that crowd, too. My books go to press and I use Acrobat to
generate my PDF. I'm sure third party choices could work well, too, but
I prefer Acrobat. (That could change if Adobe takes it to a
subscription-only model.)
Mike Wickham
On 10/29/2013 10:14 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
At 21:02 -
Mike's comment is interesting light of the fact that many people are moving
away from WSIWYG "in this century." The whole XML-authoring world, with DITA,
S1000D, DocBook, etc., is a move away from WSIWYG authoring tools.
Increasingly, authoring content is being separated from rendering it for ou
At 21:02 -0500 28/10/13, Mike Wickham wrote:
>Nobody needs PDF unless they want to create documents that will retain fonts
>and formatting to display identically on every computer. But if you want that,
>you want PDF-- and you probably want Acrobat because it is the most stable and
>full-featur
? Isn't LaTex a non-WYSIWYG application, though? I can't imagine working that
way in this century. I don't think I've done that since Wordstar. :)
? Mike Wickham
Absolutely correct that it is non-WYSIWYG for the text input. So, it does
require a change in thinking when writing.
However,
Isn't LaTex a non-WYSIWYG application, though? I can't imagine working
that way in this century. I don't think I've done that since Wordstar. :)
Mike Wickham
It's nice to know there is a free alternative to FrameMaker, which
has become very overpriced lately. They went from $400 for an upgrad
Thanks for the tip on LaTex. It's nice
to know there is a free alternative to FrameMaker, which has
become very overpriced lately. They went from $400 for an upgrade
every 2 or 3 versions to $400 to upgrade only one version.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technica
VLM TechSubs wrote:
It occurs to me that leaving FrameMaker cuts one’s last tie to Adobe
Acrobat, as well. One may need Acrobat to publish from Adobe
applications, but not to publish from anyplace else, of which I am aware.
Adobe applications don't tie you to Acrobat. FM includes a PDF-creatio
There are plenty of alternatives even with FM, as long as you use "Print
. . ." rather than "Save as PDF". I have Acrobat at home but use
"CutePDF" as a printer on my university machine.
Michael Lewis
Macquarie University
On 2013/10/29 11:33, VLM TechSubs wrote:
It occurs to me that leaving F
Well...
On 29/10/13 1:33 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote:
To the LaTex advocates: What version/product/learning tools and
resources have you found most useful? I’m not at all interested in
going back to some coding-oriented environment.
Since I use Mac and Windows I use TeXLive that provides MacTe
Joseph, I would be grateful to be included in your explanation list.
To the LaTex advocates: What version/product/learning tools and resources have
you found most useful? I'm not at all interested in
going back to some coding-oriented environment.
It occurs to me that leaving FrameMaker cuts o
Why not share your reasons for migrating with the list? It's not like
this is a fan club, I think a lot of FM users are looking for a
practical migration path. It would be interesting to hear a current
comparison of the two.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Joseph Lorenzini wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
Interestingly, Syed's comments mirror my own trajectory but I have been
using LaTeX et al for as long as I have been using FrameMaker.
I doubt I will be moving past version 10 unless my clients continue to
request I upgrade (to match compatibility with their software). I doubt
I will be taking
nday, October 28, 2013 2:22:59 PM
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>to Flare
>
>
>
>Hi, Joseph.
>
>You are not the only one who is abandoning FrameMaker … if you look at my
>posts in the past months, I have done the same al
Hi, Joseph.
You are not the only one who is abandoning FrameMaker ... if you look at my
posts in the past months, I have done the same although I have been using it
since 1988 off and on. I am still on the list for old times sake, though. :)
Please do send me your detailed reasons in an off-lis
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