Re: Structured Framemaker

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Rebecca, 

you have to tell FrameMaker to work with a "structapps.fm" in a location
different than the program folder.
The necessary command is in the "maker.ini" -- which itself is also in
the FM folder, unfortunately. 

But you can overwrite this general "maker.ini" with commands in your own
"maker.ini"-file. FrameMaker uses a second file with your personal
settings which is placed here: 

C:Users*Your User-Name*AppDataRoamingAdobeFrameMaker11 

Put in your user name (or login name) and find the folder on your
harddrive. Probably the user section is on drive c: (it could be on any
other accessible drive). 

Now, in this maker.ini there should already be a section [Directories].
If not, copy this section header with the square brackets into the file,
just before another section starts. 

Add the following command:
StructureDir=*Your Directory* 

*Your Directory* can be anywhere on your harddrive where you have the
right to change files. 

First, you also have to put a copy of a "structapps.fm" file into this
directory, otherwise FM still refers to the default path. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Frasure, Rebecca - APHIS: 

> Windows 7, Framemaker 11 
> 
> I have no admin privileges on my computer. How can I make edits to the 
> structapps file? I know there is a workaround, but I don't remember what it 
> was. 
> 
> Thanks very much for anyone's help. 
> 
> Rebecca Frasure 
> 
> Editorial Assistant 
> 
> USDA-APHIS-PPQ-RPM-ISMU 
> 
> 92 Thomas Johnson Drive, Suite 200 
> 
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Re: Structured Framemaker

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rebecca

You could save the edited structapps.fm file in a temporary folder, for
example C:\temp or on your desktop. Then, you can copy that file to the
FrameMaker installation folder, for example:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\Structure


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Re: Structured FrameMaker failure on startup

[Alan Houser]

Hi Pankaj,

I un-installed and re-installed .NET Framework, and now FrameMaker 11 
and 12 start successfully in structured mode. Thank you for correctly 
diagnosing the problem!


I had not made any (known) changes to my system before the failure. I 
suspect a Microsoft auto-update corrupted my .NET Framework.


Thanks again!

-Alan

On 6/20/14, 1:54 AM, Pankaj Aggrawal wrote:


Hi Alan,

FrameMaker11 and 12 needs .NET 4 for XML code view . It seems that 
some of the component of .NET 4 is corrupted in your machine.


Can you please confirm this by following below steps :-

1)Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker12

2)Open maker.ini

3)Comment the following entry *XML View=plugin,structured,xml 
view,FMXmlView.dll,PL_SwitchToXmlView*


4)Save maker.ini

5)Launch FrameMaker

Thanks,

Pankaj

FrameMaker Engg

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*Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:56 PM
*To:* 'Framers'
*Subject:* Structured FrameMaker failure on startup

Hi All,

Windows 7 running on MacOS/Parallels; FM 11 and 12 fully patched.

I'm getting immediate failure of structured Framemaker 11 and 12 on 
startup. ("Internal Error ... FrameMaker has detected a serious 
problem and must quit").


The apps start fine in unstructured mode.

I've tried:
- Removing the user-specific ini files 
($HOME/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/FrameMaker)

- Disable all third-party plugins
- Disable "LoadStartupScripts" setting in maker.ini

This happened suddenly; I don't know what might have triggered it.

Any ideas?

-Alan

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RE: Structured FrameMaker failure on startup

[Pankaj Aggrawal]

Hi Alan,

FrameMaker11 and 12 needs .NET 4 for XML code view . It seems that some of the 
component of .NET 4 is corrupted in your machine.

Can you please confirm this by following below steps :-

1)  Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker12

2)  Open maker.ini

3)  Comment the following entry XML View=plugin,structured,xml 
view,FMXmlView.dll,PL_SwitchToXmlView

4)  Save maker.ini

5)  Launch FrameMaker

Thanks,
Pankaj
FrameMaker Engg


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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:56 PM
To: 'Framers'
Subject: Structured FrameMaker failure on startup

Hi All,

Windows 7 running on MacOS/Parallels; FM 11 and 12 fully patched.

I'm getting immediate failure of structured Framemaker 11 and 12 on startup. 
("Internal Error ... FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must quit").

The apps start fine in unstructured mode.

I've tried:
- Removing the user-specific ini files ($HOME/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/FrameMaker)
- Disable all third-party plugins
- Disable "LoadStartupScripts" setting in maker.ini

This happened suddenly; I don't know what might have triggered it.

Any ideas?

-Alan
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Re: Structured FrameMaker failure on startup

[Scott Prentice]

Wow .. Alan .. that's a good one. If this was April 1, I'd think you 
were joking.


I can't imagine what would affect both FM11 and FM12 simultaneously. 
FM10 is OK? Are these part of a Tech Com Suite or standalone programs? 
To me that indicates that the problem lies in some shared resource of 
some kind. I know there is some sharing of resources .. but have no idea 
what they are. I assume you've rebooted the VM?


Maybe Creative Cloud has gone haywire (naw), and attacked some FM resources?

I have a feeling that you'll need to push this to Adobe .. someone on 
the FM dev team might have some ideas.


I hate to say it but you may need to reinstall.

...scott

On 6/19/14 8:25 AM, Alan Houser wrote:

Hi All,

Windows 7 running on MacOS/Parallels; FM 11 and 12 fully patched.

I'm getting immediate failure of structured Framemaker 11 and 12 on 
startup. ("Internal Error ... FrameMaker has detected a serious 
problem and must quit").


The apps start fine in unstructured mode.

I've tried:
- Removing the user-specific ini files 
($HOME/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/FrameMaker)

- Disable all third-party plugins
- Disable "LoadStartupScripts" setting in maker.ini

This happened suddenly; I don't know what might have triggered it.

Any ideas?

-Alan
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412-450-0532




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Re: Structured FrameMaker Developer's Guide for FM 11?

[Scott Turner]

They have not updated any documentation in any significant way since FM 9. 

The help files are minimally updated to reflect the current UI. 

> On Oct 17, 2013, at 12:52, Robert Lauriston  wrote:
> 
> What Structured FrameMaker documentation Adobe has created is
> scattered in various places, but there are also gaping holes.
> 
> The FM11 help says "see the online manual, Developing Structured
> Applications with Adobe FrameMaker 9," so I think that's an indication
> that they have not updated it.
> 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f74e4d-7ffb.html
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Re: Structured FrameMaker Developer's Guide for FM 11?

[Robert Lauriston]

What Structured FrameMaker documentation Adobe has created is
scattered in various places, but there are also gaping holes.

The FM11 help says "see the online manual, Developing Structured
Applications with Adobe FrameMaker 9," so I think that's an indication
that they have not updated it.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f74e4d-7ffb.html
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Re: Structured FrameMaker Developer's Guide for FM 11?

[Scott Prentice]

As far as I know .. that's the latest.

It would be great if Adobe had all of the documentation in the same 
place so you could really know, but it's spread out over a number of 
locations on their website.  :o


...scott

On 10/17/13 3:12 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote:
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of the /Structured 
FrameMaker Developer's Guide/ or /reference guide/ available somewhere 
that goes beyond FM9? The FrameMaker 11 help mentions: For more 
information, see the online manual,/ Developing Structured 
Applications with Adobe FrameMaker/ on the Adobe 
website,www.adobe.com/go/lr_FrameMaker_support_en 
. But that only 
shows the home page for help.


There may be not that many changes, but it doesn't feel very 
professional to point my client to the FM9 manuals.


Any other resources available?

Thanks,


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel




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Re: Structured FrameMaker Developer's Guide for FM 11?

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On 2013-Oct-17 6:12 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote:
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of the /Structured 
FrameMaker Developer's Guide/ or /reference guide/ available somewhere 
that goes beyond FM9? The FrameMaker 11 help mentions: For more 
information, see the online manual,/ Developing Structured 
Applications with Adobe FrameMaker/ on the Adobe 
website,www.adobe.com/go/lr_FrameMaker_support_en 
. But that only 
shows the home page for help.





According to the FM 11 Help, "For more information, see the /Structured 
FrameMaker Developer's Guide/, located in the Documents folder."


http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSD7FBA378-86FB-49ad-82EA-CCCFF5CC9524.html

Mind you, the FM 10 Help says the same thing, and there ain't no such 
Guide in /my/ Documents folder or anywhere else on my hard drives...


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RE: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[George, Brenda (CAI)]

I have attached a screen capture of the top one of the XML files that I import. 
When you mention the content model specified at the top of the file are you 
referring to the DocType? There is a large set of Doctypes that I need to add 
to the FrameMaker 11 structured applications file. I tried adding one of these 
and then importing the xml file that corresponds to it. I am still getting the 
error messages in the console and if I format, save, and then reopen the 
FrameMaker 11 file that I imported, I am losing the formatting, so the problem 
still exists.




From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:11 AM
To: George, Brenda (CAI)
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

If you open the XML file in a text editor, what's the content model specified 
at the top of the XML file? Alternately, you can open the XML in Fm8 and use 
the Set Structured Application File command to see what structapp needs to be 
added to the Fm11 structapps file.

That application needs to be set up in Fm11, and you need to ensure that it is 
valid. There may be minor tweaks to the structapp needed for use in Fm11.

-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
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On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" 
mailto:bgeo...@federatedinv.com>> wrote:


The process works when I run it using FrameMaker 8 in a Win 7 environment. When 
I am attempt to run it using FrameMaker 11 in a Win 7 environment, I encounter 
these issues. I am also noticing that after flowing an xml file into FrameMaker 
and format and save it, if I close and then reopen the file in FrameMaker 11, I 
receive error messages, one indicating that validation of the xml file failed 
(See attached image named FrameMaker_error.PNG, and another indicating that it 
can't locate structured application DITA 1.2 (see image named 
FrameMaker_Colsole_error.PNG). I replaced the structured application file that 
came with the FrameMaker 11 with the structured application file that I  am 
currently using with FrameMaker 8. I'm guessing that this is the issue.

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com<http://mattrsullivan.com>]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 10:13 AM
To: George, Brenda (CAI)
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

Hi Brenda,

Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you 
don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.

As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an 
indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the 
XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.

-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
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On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" 
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I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 
11.

I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a 
FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The 
FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of 
errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error 
console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with the 
line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.

I'm noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an 
error is occurring. I'm assuming that these line numbers correspond with the 
line numbers that can be made visible in the Fram

RE: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[George, Brenda (CAI)]

Thanks for the information.

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:11 AM
To: George, Brenda (CAI)
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

If you open the XML file in a text editor, what's the content model specified 
at the top of the XML file? Alternately, you can open the XML in Fm8 and use 
the Set Structured Application File command to see what structapp needs to be 
added to the Fm11 structapps file.

That application needs to be set up in Fm11, and you need to ensure that it is 
valid. There may be minor tweaks to the structapp needed for use in Fm11.

-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 
11<http://framemaker11book.com/>
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | 
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On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" 
mailto:bgeo...@federatedinv.com>> wrote:


The process works when I run it using FrameMaker 8 in a Win 7 environment. When 
I am attempt to run it using FrameMaker 11 in a Win 7 environment, I encounter 
these issues. I am also noticing that after flowing an xml file into FrameMaker 
and format and save it, if I close and then reopen the file in FrameMaker 11, I 
receive error messages, one indicating that validation of the xml file failed 
(See attached image named FrameMaker_error.PNG, and another indicating that it 
can't locate structured application DITA 1.2 (see image named 
FrameMaker_Colsole_error.PNG). I replaced the structured application file that 
came with the FrameMaker 11 with the structured application file that I  am 
currently using with FrameMaker 8. I'm guessing that this is the issue.

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com<http://mattrsullivan.com>]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 10:13 AM
To: George, Brenda (CAI)
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

Hi Brenda,

Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you 
don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.

As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an 
indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the 
XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.

-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 
11<http://framemaker11book.com/>
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On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" 
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I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 
11.

I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a 
FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The 
FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of 
errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error 
console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with the 
line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.

I'm noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an 
error is occurring. I'm assuming that these line numbers correspond with the 
line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing 
the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct?

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Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[Robert Lauriston]

The error messages regard a file named PPM_MM_GOVT_SHEET.fm.CD7. Is
that file XML, MIF, or FrameMaker binary (.fm)?

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, George, Brenda (CAI)
 wrote:
> I’m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where
> an error is occurring. I’m assuming that these line numbers correspond with
> the line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by
> choosing the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this
> correct?
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Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[Matt Sullivan]

If you open the XML file in a text editor, what's the content model specified at the top of the XML file? Alternately, you can open the XML in Fm8 and use the Set Structured Application File command to see what structapp needs to be added to the Fm11 structapps file.That application needs to be set up in Fm11, and you need to ensure that it is valid. There may be minor tweaks to the structapp needed for use in Fm11.
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On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" <bgeo...@federatedinv.com> wrote:The process works when I run it using FrameMaker 8 in a Win 7 environment. When I am attempt to run it using FrameMaker 11 in a Win 7 environment, I encounter these issues. I am also noticing that after flowing an xml file into FrameMaker and format and save it, if I close and then reopen the file in FrameMaker 11, I receive error messages, one indicating that validation of the xml file failed (See attached image named FrameMaker_error.PNG, and another indicating that it can't locate structured application DITA 1.2 (see image named FrameMaker_Colsole_error.PNG). I replaced the structured application file that came with the FrameMaker 11 with the structured application file that I  am currently using with FrameMaker 8. I'm guessing that this is the issue. From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt@mattrsullivan.com] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 10:13 AMTo: George, Brenda (CAI)Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console Hi Brenda,  Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model. As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.-MattMatt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | m...@mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com  On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)" <bgeo...@federatedinv.com> wrote:I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 11. I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document. I’m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an error is occurring. I’m assuming that these line numbers correspond with the line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct? Brenda GeorgeDesk: (724) 720-8491bgeo...@federatedinv.com Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact Federated Investors immediately by forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your cooperation.___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___


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Re: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

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Hi Brenda, Either your XML doesn't conform to your internally automated process, or you don't have a working Structured Application for your XML model.As Rick said, the line numbers referring to the XML file will give an indication of what's gone awry. At that point, you need to either modify the XML to fit the StructApp, or modify the StructApp to fit the XML.
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On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "George, Brenda (CAI)"  wrote:I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured FrameMaker 11. I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list of errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document. I’m noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where an error is occurring. I’m assuming that these line numbers correspond with the line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by choosing the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this correct? Brenda GeorgeDesk: (724) 720-8491bgeo...@federatedinv.com Unless notified to the contrary by the sender, the recipient should consider the contents of this message including any attachments to be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please contact Federated Investors immediately by forwarding this email to not...@federatedinv.com and then delete this message from your system. Saving, copying or disseminating an inadvertently received email could violate state and Federal privacy laws. All emails received by or sent from Federated may be provided to regulators or law enforcement agencies, or used for other purposes consistent with Federated's business interests. Thank you for your cooperation.___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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RE: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Brenda,

 

The line numbers in the error log refer to the lines in the incoming XML
file.

 

Rick

 

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Subject: Structured FrameMaker 11 Error Console

 

I am performing testing in a Windows 7 environment with Structured
FrameMaker 11.

 

I am using an internally automated process that imports an xml feed into a
FrameMaker template and produces a formatted FrameMaker document.  The
FrameMaker 11 error console window that is displaying contains a long list
of errors.  This is my first time working with FrameMaker 11 and this error
console window. I have attached a screen capture of the error console with
the line numbering feature activated in the FrameMaker document.

 

I'm noticing that the error console window indicates the line number where
an error is occurring. I'm assuming that these line numbers correspond with
the line numbers that can be made visible in the FrameMaker document by
choosing the line numbering feature from the FrameMaker menu bar. Is this
correct?

 

Brenda George

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Re: Structured FrameMaker consultant

[Gillian Flato]

Kevin,

Tom Aldous has a company that does just that. Contact him @ 
tom.ald...@acrolinx.com. Although he's working for Acrolinx right now, his wife 
and daughter still run the Frame consultant company.

-Gillian


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> Hello,
> 
> I'm looking for someone to provide occasional help with structured FrameMaker 
> projects. The work is spotty, but when a project comes in, it must be 
> executed quickly. This is localization work, which explains the spottiness of 
> the work and the attention it demands.
> 
> The broad details:
> 
> Living in the the Denver, CO area would be nice, but not necessary.
> 
> Language skills would be helpful, but not necessary.
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> The ability to stay cool in the face of unusual task requirements is 
> necessary.
> 
> This is mostly a consulting role, but every once in a while formatting is 
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> Training staff members or clients might be required.
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Re: Structured FrameMaker -> RoboHelp/Air?

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Thanks Mahesh,

unfortunately, I'm not in a position (time-wise) to try things out at
the moment. I'd like something that works, but I guess I could always
try to find somebody to do the testing for me. :)

best regards,
Jakob.



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> Hi Jacob
>
> I suggest you try out the integrations. Formatting information is derived 
> from styles defined in FrameMaker and there are many fine options in 
> achieving the desired results. Availability of scripting with RoboHelp in 
> TCS2 helps in customizing the mapping and publishing process.
>
> Please do share your feedback.
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> We have a publication as structured FrameMaker 9 files that I thought
> I could quite easily publish with TCS 2.0's FrameMaker/Robohelp/Air
> integration. However, in the meantime I've been told  that Robohelp is
> only able to take into account any formatting styles defined in
> FrameMaker but not the actual element contexts. Is that true? Could
> this possibly change with 2.5?
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RE: Structured FrameMaker -> RoboHelp/Air?

[Mahesh Kumar Gupta]

Hi Jacob

I suggest you try out the integrations. Formatting information is derived from 
styles defined in FrameMaker and there are many fine options in achieving the 
desired results. Availability of scripting with RoboHelp in TCS2 helps in 
customizing the mapping and publishing process.

Please do share your feedback.

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Hi,

We have a publication as structured FrameMaker 9 files that I thought
I could quite easily publish with TCS 2.0's FrameMaker/Robohelp/Air
integration. However, in the meantime I've been told  that Robohelp is
only able to take into account any formatting styles defined in
FrameMaker but not the actual element contexts. Is that true? Could
this possibly change with 2.5?

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Re: Structured FrameMaker and MS Word XML Import

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:00:20 -0700, "David Versdahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>We are embarking on a new project with a new 1200 page book. There are two
>audiences for this book. One is a subset of the other. The request is that
>we base this book on a single MS Word document that is maintained by one or
>engineers at different sites. 

That's asking for trouble.  Word is simply incapable of handling
complex 1200-page documents, or even simple 1000-page documents.
It's in enough trouble with simple 300-page documents...  ;-)

>The content is constantly changing with the
>addition of new material and the excising of outdated information. The
>preference is to keep this a FrameMaker document so, we would take this Word
>document and import it in some fashion into FrameMaker. The traditional
>import function is impractical and tedious in this instance.

Consider turning the problem around.  Get the original material
into FrameMaker, preferably as a book consisting of perhaps eight
chapter files, whatever fits the doc structure.  Then you can
readily generate a single PDF.  When you need to furnish it to
the engineers in Word, use Mif2Go to produce the Word doc; many
members of this list do that, and we don't know of a better way
(truly, even if it is our product ;-).  You will get a set of
Word docs, not just one (one per chapter file), but that's what
you need if anyone wants to edit it in Word.  And you can force
Track Changes on, so you can easily see what was altered and
copy/paste it (as PLAIN TEXT) back into the FrameMaker doc.
That way, your writer maintains control of doc integrity, which
we consider very important.  You don't want any old tweak made
by a reviewer to go into the master FrameMaker doc without any
authorial review, now do you?  

HTH!

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Re: Structured FrameMaker competency questions

[Marcus Carr]

Hi Theresa,

Theresa de Valence wrote:


As an aside, this is the most valuable piece of education that I have
gleaned about Framemaker for a considerable time.
Thank you very much for having this conversation in public! 


And here was me thinking I was doing it for my own greedy purposes! 
Seriously, I'm glad it was of help and interest to you - it certainly 
helped me out as well. Thanks again to all who contributed.



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RE: Structured FrameMaker competency questions

[Anderson, Eileen]

Since the questions must have clearly correct answers, I'd probably opt
to show the candidate a (printed or onscreen) snippet of an actual
structured FrameMaker document (including the structure view) and ask
him or her closed-ended questions about it, such as "In this section of
the document, which elements are siblings of this element [pointing to
it]? Does it have any children? What are its ancestors? What are the
attributes of this element?" You could show the candidate a few pages of
an EDD, plus some invalid structure in a document, and ask the candidate
to point out the part of the EDD that explains why that particular bit
of the document is invalid; make this even easier for your non-technical
panel by highlighting/numbering several portions of the EDD to make this
a multiple-choice question. You could also ask the candidate basic
questions that are less performance-related, but show familiarity with
Structured Frame, such as "What does 'EDD' stand for?"

- Eileen Anderson
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I know that what I'm about to ask is less than ideal on so many levels,
but please don't offer me a lecture as I have no control over the
circumstances.

A past client has been asked to put together of list of questions that a
non-technical panel could use to evaluate applicants for a position that
involves the creation and maintenance of structured FrameMaker
documents.
Obviously, they have to have a reasonably quantifiably correct answer
for a non-technical panel be have any hope of making an assessment, so
does anyone have any suggestions for questions? I'd happily repost what
I send him if anything comes of it.

This is the approach that they will take, so there's no point in telling
me that the panel's not fit to make the decision - I know that already.
All I'm trying to do is to make sure that they don't get suckered by
someone who's going to try to learn on the job. Any suggestions for
questions are welcome.

Please mail me directly as well as the list, as I'm on the digest and
the answers were really needed yesterday, of course... ;-) Thanks for
any assistance,


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Re: Structured FrameMaker competency questions

[Marcus Carr]

Hi all,

Thanks to everyone for your excellent suggestions for questions. Some of 
them weren't appropriate due to the nature of the documents (it's 
Defence data and they already have DTDs), and some are more general 
SGML/XML just to keep them on their toes. Overall though, I think it 
will give them a great running start. Thanks very much for your help.




1Q. "Can you explain the difference between standard FrameMaker and 
Structured FrameMaker?"


1A. An experienced user should be able to explain the differences, even 
though the difference is just a configuration setting in the same 
application. Standard FrameMaker is a word processor like Microsoft 
Word, whereas Structured FrameMaker is all that as well as being a 
platform to author and edit structured SGML and XML documents, requiring 
components that control what you can and can't do while creating a document.



2Q. What are some of the difficulties that you've encountered while 
creating structured applications?


2A. Things like defining the structural requirements (the DTD), creating 
the rest of the application, finding a need to change the structure, 
then having to catch up with the application. Another difficulty would 
be imposing a standardised structure on authors or contributors working 
in Word and not understanding why their data gets changed. Also, setting 
up for things like images, tables, or landscape pages.



3Q. Have them explain their experience in learning FrameMaker - did they 
do a course, learn it themselves, combination of both? Have they used 
other structured editing applications


3A. If they did a course, ask them what company provided the training - 
here in Australia, it could only be one of a handful. For other 
structured editors, they might claim ArborText, Interleaf or XMetal - 
experience with any of these would stand them in pretty good stead.



4Q. Where would they turn if they found themselves with a problem that 
they couldn't solve themselves with FrameMaker? Do they have a 
relationship with any companies that might provide them with support or 
other contacts? Do they read any of the FrameMaker user groups? If so, 
which ones?


4A. They'd be pretty brave to try to bluff this one. (There are only a 
handful of companies training and supporting in Australia.)



5Q. Are they willing to demonstrate their proficiency on a simple test 
document during the interview?


5A. Given a simple document, can they:
- Add an element in a place not allowed?
- Add an element in a legal place?
- Change an attribute value?
- Enter text
- Validate the document?
- Fix the error introduced in the first point and revalidate?

Ask them to explain as they go, so the non-technical panel has a better 
idea what they're looking at for the next applicant.



6Q. Have you built structured FrameMaker applications in the past, or 
just authored with them? If you've built them, roughly how many elements 
did the DTD contain?


6A. If they claim to have built applications but don't know what a DTD 
is, show them the door. If they don't know what an element is, show them 
the window.



7Q. Can you explain what a book is in FrameMaker, how it differs to a 
chapter and what general purpose it serves?


7A. A book is a container that manages multiple chapters, allowing 
numbering of pages, headings, paragraphs, tables, figures and anything 
else to be managed from a single point.



8Q. Can you explain the difference between SGML and XML?

8A. For a non-technical panel? Next to nothing, really. They use the 
same pointy brackets. If they tell you that XML is a more portable 
syntax by virtue of the fact that it's more self-contained, kiss them. 
Then hire them.



9Q. What other XML standards/recommendations are you familiar with?

9A. XSLT, XSL-FO, XPath, XSD, Schematron, RelaxNG, XQuery all score points.


10Q. Which popular published structures have you worked with in the past?

10A. ATA, Airbus, 5629A, DocBook, DITA, etc.


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