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This will be the 30th and I hope the LAST of all posts under this
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productive time away from revenue-generating, useful work. Please
desist from continuing this thread. This poor horse has been beat to
death so many times that only
maxwell.hoffmann wrote:
> (I've read the other replies to this post also.) Like Bernard
> A., I too am at the annual FrameMaker Chautauqua. (A great
> venue for new info and easy access to experts; I highly
> recommend it!)
I attended the 2005 Chautauqua and thought it was well worth my
emplo
maxwell.hoffmann wrote:
> (I've read the other replies to this post also.) Like Bernard
> A., I too am at the annual FrameMaker Chautauqua. (A great
> venue for new info and easy access to experts; I highly
> recommend it!)
I attended the 2005 Chautauqua and thought it was well worth my
empl
Dov wrote:
>On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated,
>let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development.
>A next major version is currently being developed.
Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a
techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as Adobe
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-Original Message-
From: Jakob Fix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:47 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: future of FrameMaker
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some reliable f
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-Original Message-
From: Jakob Fix [mailto:jakob@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:47 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: future of FrameMaker
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some r
Dov wrote:
>On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated,
>let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development.
>A next major version is currently being developed.
Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a
techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as Adobe
On 14 Feb 2008, at 21:22, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ...
>
> Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version
> of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact
> same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place.
>
Is it that time again?
On 2/14/08, Jakob Fix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
> people having attended Adobe training sessions for
Hi Rick, everybody,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, wrote:
> What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of
> Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server
> identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see it
At 15:09 -0600 14/2/08, Peter Gold wrote:
>Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the Technical
>Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp, and Acrobat 8 3D,
>the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because Captivate and RoboHelp
>are Windows-only appl
On 14 Feb 2008, at 18:22, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
> I'm at the FrameMaker Chautauqua in North Carolina right now. Adobe
> is here.
> They are talking about the future of the product. The development
> team is
> here. They are interviewing people and discussing requirements for the
> future.
Is it that time again?
On 2/14/08, Jakob Fix wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
> people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that
> Ad
Why do programs always have to "go" somewhere to be worth using? As long
a company supports it's products, tries to fix the bugs and is keeping
up with other tools of it's kind, there does not have to be a major
overhaul in each version. That's the myth that software companies like
to perpetuat
I wonder is these rumors are started by competitors. It's possible that
Adobe puts less development time into FM as they do their other more
profitable programs, but I think it's highly unlikely that they will
stop developing it entirely.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133
Mike Wickham wro
On 14 Feb 2008, at 14:52, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that
> FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version
> is currently being developed.
Shucks...
...I was just about to register :-))
Paul
t: RE: WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)
Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered
an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical
support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar
issue came up with regards to r
Dov,
Are you whining about WINE
Sorry, couldn't resist.
-Gillian
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:42 PM
To: Paul Findon; Framers List
Subject: RE: WINE (Was Re: future of Frame
Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered
an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical
support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar
issue came up with regards to running InDesign under WINE on various
Linux and UNIX p
Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered
an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical
support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar
issue came up with regards to running InDesign under WINE on various
Linux and UNIX p
es the time go?
> ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM
> To: Framers List
> Subject: future of FrameMaker
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
&
Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the
Technical Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp,
and Acrobat 8 3D, the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because
Captivate and RoboHelp are Windows-only applications, and Acrobat on
Mac OS X is short a few i
On 14 Feb 2008, at 21:22, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ...
>
> Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version
> of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact
> same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place.
>
What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of
Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server
identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see it as I was
deleting it! Who is the original poster of the question, has he spoken up
ists.frameusers.com on behalf of Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM
> To: Framers List
> Subject: future of FrameMaker
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
>
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that
Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the
organization I am working for
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard
Aschwanden
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:22 PM
To: 'Jakob Fix'; 'Framers List'
Subject: RE: future of FrameMaker
Please see every email from the past 10 plus years that I've posted to the
Frame Users about the demise of F
Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ...
Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version
of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact
same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place.
You obviously can try to use it under Parallels or Boot
Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ...
Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version
of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact
same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place.
You obviously can try to use it under Parallels or Boot
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:47 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: future of FrameMaker
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information
about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having
attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Ado
Hi, Bernard:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Bernard Aschwanden
wrote:
> Fast typing, less proofreading in my message below. Looking over this I see
> the errors. Note that they are my fault, not the fault of Outlook or of
> FrameMaker. Which has a future. Definitely.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED! t
At 15:09 -0600 14/2/08, Peter Gold wrote:
>Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the Technical
>Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp, and Acrobat 8 3D,
>the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because Captivate and RoboHelp
>are Windows-only appl
Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the
Technical Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp,
and Acrobat 8 3D, the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because
Captivate and RoboHelp are Windows-only applications, and Acrobat on
Mac OS X is short a few i
On 14 Feb 2008, at 18:22, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
> I'm at the FrameMaker Chautauqua in North Carolina right now. Adobe
> is here.
> They are talking about the future of the product. The development
> team is
> here. They are interviewing people and discussing requirements for the
> future.
e-education at
Gulag Adobe. :-)
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:30 PM
>
> Hi Rick, everybody,
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What I find funny about the
e-education at
Gulag Adobe. :-)
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:30 PM
>
> Hi Rick, everybody,
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, wrote:
> > What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding
Hi Rick, everybody,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of
> Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server
> identified it as spam and junk mail, I just
What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of
Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server
identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see it as I was
deleting it! Who is the original poster of the question, has he spoken up
t; Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
> people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that
> Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the
>
then the Technical Communication Suite edition, this is
frankly ridiculous at this time.
On Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:16 AM, Richard Combs wrote:
| Jakob Fix wrote:
|
| > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
| > information about the future of FrameMak
Hi, Bernard:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Bernard Aschwanden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fast typing, less proofreading in my message below. Looking over this I see
> the errors. Note that they are my fault, not the fault of Outlook or of
> FrameMaker. Which has a future. Definitely.
I'm
Only if it's shinier.
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: future of FrameMak
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Bill Swallow
wrote:
> They just invested a ton of work into not only FM8 but also to RH 6 so
> the two tools can work together.
>
> This topic comes up regularly, and yet FM hasn't gone anywhere.
This could fit nicely into a thread on a tech-writer's list abo
Adobe just came out with version 8 a few months ago, and two updates since.
They are also actively seeking feature requests for version 9 in the Adobe
FrameMaker Users Forum. You'd be better off to worry about FrameMaker's
competitors. :)
Mike Wickham
Bernard
Aschwanden
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:22 PM
To: 'Jakob Fix'; 'Framers List'
Subject: RE: future of FrameMaker
Please see every email from the past 10 plus years that I've posted to the
Frame Users about the demise of Frame. Rather than writing it again it he
To: Framers List
Subject: future of FrameMaker
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information
about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having
attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will probably
stop FrameM
Oh, no, not again! Where do these "death of FrameMaker" myths start? If
you've been going to conferences and reading industry-related
publications, you'd know FrameMaker is alive and well loved by Adobe.
Richard
Only if it's shinier.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: future of FrameMaker
>
> Why do programs always
Why do programs always have to "go" somewhere to be worth using? As long
a company supports it's products, tries to fix the bugs and is keeping
up with other tools of it's kind, there does not have to be a major
overhaul in each version. That's the myth that software companies like
to perpetuat
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They just invested a ton of work into not only FM8 but also to RH 6 so
> the two tools can work together.
>
> This topic comes up regularly, and yet FM hasn't gone anywhere.
This could fit nicely into a thread on a tech
I wonder is these rumors are started by competitors. It's possible that
Adobe puts less development time into FM as they do their other more
profitable programs, but I think it's highly unlikely that they will
stop developing it entirely.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133
Mike Wickham wro
Adobe just came out with version 8 a few months ago, and two updates since.
They are also actively seeking feature requests for version 9 in the Adobe
FrameMaker Users Forum. You'd be better off to worry about FrameMaker's
competitors. :)
Mike Wickham
_
Oh, no, not again! Where do these "death of FrameMaker" myths start? If
you've been going to conferences and reading industry-related
publications, you'd know FrameMaker is alive and well loved by Adobe.
Richard
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> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
> people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that
> Adobe may/will probably stop Fr
then the Technical Communication Suite edition, this is
frankly ridiculous at this time.
On Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:16 AM, Richard Combs wrote:
| Jakob Fix wrote:
|
| > I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
| > information about the future of FrameMak
On 14 Feb 2008, at 14:52, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that
> FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version
> is currently being developed.
Shucks...
...I was just about to register :-))
Paul
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Jakob Fix wrote:
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently
You know, this question was worth serious consideration the first dozen
or so times it came up. It was mildly amusing the next dozen or s
Jakob Fix wrote:
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently
You know, this question was worth serious consideration the first dozen
or so times it came up. It was mildly amusing the next dozen or s
bject: future of FrameMaker
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that
Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the
organizat
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:47 AM
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
> people having attended Adobe
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:47 AM
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
> people having attended Adobe
es the time go?
> ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM
> To: Framers List
> Subject: future of FrameMaker
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM
> To: Framers List
> Subject: future of FrameMaker
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
> information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard
Gosh, has it been 4 months ALREADY? I didn't think this would come up again for
oh, at least another week or so
Where does the time go?
;-)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix
Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: future of Frame
Hello,
I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand
information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of
people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that
Adobe may/will probably stop FrameMaker development. As the
organization I am working for
Karl Matthews from Adobe Systems will be presenting a lunch
presentation on the future of FrameMaker and RoboHELP at LavaCon on
Monday, October 2.
Additional sessions and hands-on workshops are being presented by
Frame experts Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, more.
Discount airfare and
Karl Matthews from Adobe Systems will be presenting a lunch
presentation on the future of FrameMaker and RoboHELP at LavaCon on
Monday, October 2.
Additional sessions and hands-on workshops are being presented by
Frame experts Alan Houser, Sarah O'Keefe, more.
Discount airfare and
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