Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 04:26:13PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: foo_enable=NO ipfilter_enable=YES firewall_enable=NO natd_enable=NO natd_interface=fxp0 inetd_enable=NO inetd_program=/usr/sbin/inetd foo_enable=YES/NO

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Wilko Bulte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 04:26:13PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Does someone want to write a registry editor program? rc editor.. registry would imply it's going to be used generally, where as it'll be a cold day in hell before anybody lets rc.conf

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 04:26:13PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Hi Terry, Who is a GTK hacker? I've done some GTK programs in the past. Does someone want to write a registry editor program? The point of the program would be to edit the FreeBSD Registry, rc.conf, and make it look just

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Matt Heckaman wrote: Yeah, but we've also got a file edited by root and root alone, why would root be trying to add all kinds of code in it? I think rc.conf will be failing as it is if people add certain code in it, what do we lose? The same reason we check the syntax of the password entries,

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Wilko Bulte wrote: I would add differences like: the M$ registry is bound to be corrupted, is only accessible by obscure tools, is for the best part not documented In other words why should FreeBSD adopt something like that? rc.conf is a registry in all but tools. 8-). -- Terry To

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Miguel Mendez wrote: Are you really serious about this? :) I've thought about that many times, well, not with the registry paradigm, but some sort of graphical admin tool based on GTK. I'm doing exams this week but may take a go at it after I finish them. Let me know the form you want the

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Nik Clayton
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:29:50AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Miguel Mendez wrote: Are you really serious about this? :) I've thought about that many times, well, not with the registry paradigm, but some sort of graphical admin tool based on GTK. I'm doing exams this week but may take a

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Kutulu
From: Brian T.Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:31 PM I don't see that at all--the most distinctive characteristic to me of the Microsoft Windows Registry is that it tries to be a *single* place where *all* configuration information--both system and

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Pete French
Just go and port NetInfo from Apple's Darwin. I assume from this that there isnt currently a FreeBSD netinfo implementation then unfortunately ? So why is it mentioned in the ntpd man page ? -pcf. [someone been nicking man pages from NeXT system ? :-)] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Emiel Kollof
Nik Clayton heeft op zaterdag 2 februari 2002 om 13:37 het volgende geschreven: Let me know the form you want the hierarchy to take, so you can stick it into the GTK hierarchy thingy; Just go and port NetInfo from Apple's Darwin. Now that is a cool idea. Netinfo has been around for quite

fstat dumps core

2002-02-02 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
# gdb =fstat [...] (gdb) break 349 Breakpoint 1 at 0x8049110: file /usr/src/usr.bin/fstat/fstat.c, line 349. (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/fstat USER CMD PID FD MOUNT INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W root fstat 13709 root / 2 drwxr-xr-x1536 r root

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Yifeng Xu
Don't try to persuade somebody to accept Microsoft concept, they have never played Microsoft Systems, so they really don't know what you are talking about, I personally like the Microsoft's Registry idea, Microsoft is not always bad, but I never try to force somebody to accept the idea, it wastes

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Brandon S. Allbery
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 05:59, Thomas Hurst wrote: Maybe some sort of hierachy would be good.. /etc/rc.conf/services # sendmail, bind etc /etc/rc.conf/security # firewall, secure levels /etc/rc.conf/system # library paths and other low level tweakables SuSE Linux does this

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Brandon S. Allbery
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 08:52, Emiel Kollof wrote: Oh, I am not volunteering, it's way beyond my capabilities. Hm, Darwin is (userspace-wise) mostly FreeBSD 3.x, isn't it? I wouldn't expect porting its NetInfo implementation to be particularly difficult. -- brandon s. allbery

lomac

2002-02-02 Thread Logan weaponx
Is there a reason lomac_enable isn't in /etc/defaults/rc.conf? I've only had a brief look so excuse this email if i'm in error and the answer is glaringly obvious. thanks thomas _ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Emiel Kollof
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH heeft op zaterdag 2 februari 2002 om 16:48 het volgende geschreven: On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 08:52, Emiel Kollof wrote: Oh, I am not volunteering, it's way beyond my capabilities. Hm, Darwin is (userspace-wise) mostly FreeBSD 3.x, isn't it? I wouldn't expect porting

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Dinesh Nair
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Miguel Mendez wrote: times, well, not with the registry paradigm, but some sort of graphical admin tool based on GTK. I'm doing exams this week but may take a go at it after I finish them. why not use something like webmin ? Regards, /\_/\

Making bootable recovery CD using cdboot/loader fails

2002-02-02 Thread Michael Reifenberger
Hi, a CD created using the following commands fails during loading /boot/kernel/kernel (just freezes up) under a recent current: cd /usr/tmp mkdir root dump -0a -f - / | ( cd root; restore -r -f - ) dd if=/dev/zero of=root/boot/boot.catalog count=5 mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -c

Re: Latest binutils import breaks Alpha cross compiles

2002-02-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 05:24:54PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: This still *is* -CURRENT, right? If it doesn't break, once in a while, how will new things be tested by the -CURRENT userbase? A make world before commit? Is this a trick question? Please see the

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2002-02-02 Thread Vitaly Timofeev
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Re: Login failures

2002-02-02 Thread Hendrik Scholz
Hi! Look at the Pam problems today mails on the list, do a cvs update or apply this patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/34507 If you don't want to rebuild everything, try: $ cd /usr/src/lib/libpam $ (cd pam_lastlog ; make make install) $ (cd pam_login_access ; make make

Re: Latest binutils import breaks Alpha cross compiles

2002-02-02 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 09:07:27AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 05:24:54PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: This still *is* -CURRENT, right? If it doesn't break, once in a while, how will new things be tested by the -CURRENT userbase? A

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Pete French
AFAIK, Netinfo on Mac OS X is implemented deep. That is, it overrules standard libc behaviour (like the resolver, fstab and other things), Yes it's userspace jim, but not as we know it :) This was certainly true on NeXT's - you needed special versions of most programs (e.g. sendmail, bind,

Support for atapi cdrw as scsi in -current?

2002-02-02 Thread jordan . breeding
I noticed a patch on freebsd-scsi a while back that added a not very complete form of atapi as scsi support to the freebsd kernel. Are there plans to complete this and add it to -current sometime before -current turns into 5.0-RELEASE? Thanks for any information. Jordan Breeding To

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Brian T . Schellenberger
On Saturday 02 February 2002 06:15 am, Terry Lambert wrote: Wilko Bulte wrote: I would add differences like: the M$ registry is bound to be corrupted, is only accessible by obscure tools, is for the best part not documented In other words why should FreeBSD adopt something like that?

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Juha Saarinen
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: No, it's not, because it still maintains a separation between system control (rc.conf) and application control (/var/packges). It's more like config.sys or something . . . Much more than that. The registry also stores dynamic data, such

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Brandon S. Allbery
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 14:50, Pete French wrote: AFAIK, Netinfo on Mac OS X is implemented deep. That is, it overrules standard libc behaviour (like the resolver, fstab and other things), Yes it's userspace jim, but not as we know it :) This was certainly true on NeXT's - you needed

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Pete French
And I, somehow, had failed to notice that there's no NSS on FreeBSD. *smacks self on head* Not quite so simple after all, I guess Is this NSS as in the Mozilla crypt stuff ? If so then what does it have to do with netinfo - or is OSX netinfo different to normal netinfo ? [did they break

Re: fstat dumps core

2002-02-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020202 05:51] wrote: # gdb =fstat [...] (gdb) break 349 Breakpoint 1 at 0x8049110: file /usr/src/usr.bin/fstat/fstat.c, line 349. (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/fstat USER CMD PID FD MOUNT INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W root

Re: firewall_enable

2002-02-02 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:56 PM -0700 2/1/02, M. Warner Losh wrote: Actually, there's a simple way around this that is failsafe. firewall_enable=YES What it deos now =NOWide open =FAILSAFE Defaults to wired down. /etc/defaults/rc.conf firewall_enable=FAILSAFE I like

Problem with PPPoE and 3com Etherlink III

2002-02-02 Thread x x
People, With FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i can't connect to the internet using (userland) ppp. I use the same configuration in the past, but with this network card (ISA 3Com EtherLink III), ppp says: Feb 2 14:00:01 dna ppp[132]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Feb 2 14:00:01 dna

Re: Problem with PPPoE and 3com Etherlink III

2002-02-02 Thread Julian Elischer
x x wrote: People, With FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i can't connect to the internet using (userland) ppp. I use the same configuration in the past, but with this network card (ISA 3Com EtherLink III), ppp says: the best debug information would be a `tcpdump -e -i ep0 -v -p -n`

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: No, it's not, because it still maintains a separation between system control (rc.conf) and application control (/var/packges). It's more like config.sys or something . . . Oh, ya got me! Oh! Oh! Yeah... config.sys... MUCH better... 8-) 8-). ...actually, I'd

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Juha Saarinen wrote: No, it's not, because it still maintains a separation between system control (rc.conf) and application control (/var/packges). It's more like config.sys or something . . . Much more than that. The registry also stores dynamic data, such as performance counters.

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: And I, somehow, had failed to notice that there's no NSS on FreeBSD. *smacks self on head* Not quite so simple after all, I guess There are NSS patches for FreeBSD; check the PR database; they just haven't been integrated. The PR database is like the

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Pete French wrote: Is this NSS as in the Mozilla crypt stuff ? If so then what does it have to do with netinfo - or is OSX netinfo different to normal netinfo ? [did they break yet another thing ? :-(] NSS = Name Service Switch GNU LIBC has a nice introductory document:

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Juha Saarinen
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: No, no, I was saying that *rc.conf* was more like config.sys than the registry. I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Then again, the registry is the epitome of all that's counter-intuitive, awkward and generally

Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task

2002-02-02 Thread Mike Meyer
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: I guess NIH beats an idea to death, even if the original implementation bears no resemblence to the current one. The problem with the registry is not that it's a single place that tries to control everything. The problem with the registry is that you have

Re: vmware

2002-02-02 Thread Makoto Matsushita
matusita I've just filed an incident (I have a license of VMware 3.0). I've received a reply from VMware: Thank you for submitting the incident and letting us know the potential workaround. I must apologize because we do not support FreeBSD 5.0 as a guest OS yet in Workstation 3.0.