Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim list_free...@bluerosetech.com wrote: Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a port, you get something like this: Jul 10 23:06:40 chombo pkg-static: ca_root_nss-3.15.1 installed Nov 29 15:04:52 chombo pkg: ca_root_nss

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim list_free...@bluerosetech.com wrote: Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a port, you get something like this: Jul 10 23:06:40 chombo pkg-static:

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim list_free...@bluerosetech.com wrote: Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:06:34AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim list_free...@bluerosetech.com wrote: Because of

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Adrian Chadd
The point is that some people like an audit trail. The audit trail for some people involves remote logging of syslog messages to a log host. This would include when packages are installed. -adrian On 21 December 2013 15:49, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Sat, Dec 21,

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Steve, On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14:03PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: S It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have S this stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this S information in /var/log/messages provides NOTHING. Please S turn it off by default. I am really

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Frank Seltzer
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: pkg: PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 09:00:42AM -0500, Frank Seltzer wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-12-22 15:00, Frank Seltzer wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: pkg:

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/12/2013 14:55, olli hauer wrote: What I agree is having it would be nice to have dedicated syslog (like yum.log) instead /var/log/messages since this is already spammed by most every process. Add something like this to /etc/syslog.conf: !pkg *.* /var/log/pkg.log

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/12/2013 16:08, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 22/12/2013 14:55, olli hauer wrote: What I agree is having it would be nice to have dedicated syslog (like yum.log) instead /var/log/messages since this is already spammed by most every process. Add something like this to /etc/syslog.conf:

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Ian Lepore
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 15:25 -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Frank Seltzer
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 09:00:42AM -0500, Frank Seltzer wrote: /root # man pkg.conf No manual entry for pkg.conf pkg.conf man pages comes with pkg itself, just bootstrap it and you will get the manpage :) regards, Bapt OK, my bad, I did

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 15:48:49 +0400, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Steve, On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14:03PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: S It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have S this stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this S information in /var/log/messages provides

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread dt71
Frank Seltzer wrote, On 12/22/2013 15:00: Greg Rivers said: Do you really feel that strongly about it? Having a record of changes to the system has always seemed like a feature to me... Baptiste Daroussin said: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, it is

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 12/22/2013 6:00 AM, Frank Seltzer wrote: Adrian Chadd said: The point is that some people like an audit trail. The audit trail for some people involves remote logging of syslog messages to a log host. This would include when packages are installed. There are two more: 1. When a port was

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: pkg: PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please create a repository configuration file

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: pkg: PACKAGESITE in

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:10:26PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/21/2013 9:14 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:10:26PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Greg Rivers
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:10:26PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have this stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this information in /var/log/messages provides NOTHING. Please turn it off

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 12/21/2013 1:05 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have this stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this information in /var/log/messages

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:24:55PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: On 12/21/2013 1:05 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have this stupidity

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:39:59PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:24:55PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: On 12/21/2013 1:05 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: It did not ask

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, companies can turn it on it they want it. secondly I receive tons of request to actiavte on by default while you are the first to request it off by

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, companies can turn it on it they want it. And if you want to save the few extra kB, you can turn it off...

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, companies can turn it on it they want it.

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/22/2013 12:25 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies,

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Florian Smeets
On 22/12/13 00:04, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide that 'pkg info' doesn't! Please turn of this feature by default. No please don't, it's a very useful feature, you can

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: In article 20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Steve Kargl writes: Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide that 'pkg info' doesn't! A record of when packages were installed and

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:44:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: In article 20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Steve Kargl writes: Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide that 'pkg

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:47:01PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:44:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: In article 20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Steve Kargl writes: Other than

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:44:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: In article 20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Steve Kargl writes: Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide that 'pkg

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:49:26PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: /var/log/message never gets corrupted? If a machine is compromised, I can review log from remote syslog server. It is impossible to trust the package information, relying on the local database alone. Glen pgpklyEF3RMKl.pgp

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article 20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, Steve Kargl writes: Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide that 'pkg info' doesn't! A record of when packages were installed and removed. -GAWollman ___

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Jakub Lach
I was surprised initially, but haven't thought about it much since. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/PACKAGESITE-spam-tp5870583p5870666.html Sent from the freebsd-current mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Shane Ambler
On 22/12/2013 09:34, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, companies can turn it on it they want it. Generally the more secure option is default, you can turn off