Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 05:31:13PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Click-click, hosed up beyond repair. What I mean to say is that > > GUI != easy to administer. M$ has plenty of examples available. > >There's a difference between useful GUI design

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Yup, sounds like the problem some are seing, now I wonder why I havn't seen it on any of the IBM disks I've access to, hmm... It apparantly can't be disabled, but I'll try to figure out if I can detect when the drive is in this mode, or put it in standby mode

Re: pnp, sound and LINT in -current

1999-12-16 Thread Steve Kargl
Seigo Tanimura wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:00:34 -0800 (PST), > Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Julian> however LINT doesn't help because it still has comments refering > Julian> to 'enable pnp'. Are these old? and if not, how do I now do this? > > Yes. Also, pcm(4) no longe

Avance Asound 110 patch for sbc.c

1999-12-16 Thread Bryan Liesner
A few days back my Avance Asound stopped working. The probe would fail (sorry, this is from memory): sbc0: probe_and_attach returned 6 I found a slight error in sbc.c and here's a working patch: --- /sys/dev/sound/isa/sbc.cSat Dec 11 21:30:19 1999 +++ sbc.c Thu Dec 16 23:42:43 1999 @

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 19:28:34 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Matthew Dillon writes: > : > : > We're already testing a patch. > : > :Thanks again Matt! > : > :The latest rev of nfs_serv.c has fixed it. > : > :I'm now seeing FreeBSD UDP client read bandwidth of 9.2MB/sec & write > :bandwid

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Matthew Dillon writes: : : > We're already testing a patch. : :Thanks again Matt! : :The latest rev of nfs_serv.c has fixed it. : :I'm now seeing FreeBSD UDP client read bandwidth of 9.2MB/sec & write :bandwidth of 10.9MB/sec. Solaris clients are writing over TCP at :10.1MB/sec (and that

Re: linux /proc and vmware.

1999-12-16 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Julian Elischer writes: > > > > might I suggest that we make a decision to allow procfs to be mounted with > > a -linux flag and act more like the linux programs expect.? > > (particularly we could mount it at /compat/linux/proc with the -lin

Re: linux /proc and vmware.

1999-12-16 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Julian Elischer writes: > > might I suggest that we make a decision to allow procfs to be mounted with > a -linux flag and act more like the linux programs expect.? > (particularly we could mount it at /compat/linux/proc with the -linux > flag). > That would be wonderful. I'd also li

Re: pnp, sound and LINT in -current

1999-12-16 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:00:34 -0800 (PST), Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Julian> however LINT doesn't help because it still has comments refering Julian> to 'enable pnp'. Are these old? and if not, how do I now do this? Yes. Also, pcm(4) no longer needs to mention pnp(4). Could any

Re: tagged openings now 31, 25, 2; ncr0: queue empty.

1999-12-16 Thread Harry Starr
I had similar problems with Conner drives -- they have bugs in their microcode. You need to disable tagged queueing for these drives by adding a QUIRK to cam_xpt.c Harry. - Original Message - From: "Leif Neland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FreeBSD Current" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Matthew Dillon writes: > We're already testing a patch. Thanks again Matt! The latest rev of nfs_serv.c has fixed it. I'm now seeing FreeBSD UDP client read bandwidth of 9.2MB/sec & write bandwidth of 10.9MB/sec. Solaris clients are writing over TCP at 10.1MB/sec (and that is across a

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Mike Smith
> > > On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > : If people do a "settimeofday" we change the boot time since the > > : amount of time we've been up *IS* known for sure, whereas the boottime > > : is only an estimate. > > > > Ther

Re: AMI MegaRAID datapoint.

1999-12-16 Thread Mike Smith
> I have the Enterprise 1400 Megaraid adapter with (currently 16M) on > it. I have tested the various modes of operation (different raid > levels and striping) and find it to be working well. My LVD array > consists of 8 18G Quamtum IV's. > > Now... using vinum and either the 2940U2W (Adaptec L

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Warner Losh ]- | | There is one problem with this. The amount of uptime isn't the same | as the amount of time since the machine booted. How can this happen? | When a laptop suspends, it doesn't update the update while it is | asleep, nor does i

Re: make world broken

1999-12-16 Thread Darren Wiebe
Jos Backus wrote: I just built the world from sources about 3-4 hours ago. It was all great. Darren Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/f771; make build-tools > cc -O -pipe -march=pentium -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_T > ARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEF

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 04:50:55PM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: > Check http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/prodspec/djna_spw.pdf > If a command is received during spin down of ADM, the drive quits the spin down > and tries to complete the command as soon as possible. > In case the sp

Re: Status of the netatalk stack

1999-12-16 Thread Steve Kargl
Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Hi Julian, > > > the kernel code for appletalk is 'out of date' but it is also > > somewhat modified.. > > > > If you want to work with it, let me know and I can help as I did the > > original integration into our

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 09:25:11AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > There is this thing with the IBM's doing some headcleaning stuff once > a day/week, but I've never seen any of my IBM's do that (I got plenty > of them). I'll try to get more info on that from IBM... Check http://www.storage.ibm.co

Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )

1999-12-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
David Scheidt wrote: > > What's wrong with run with system V runlevels? Other than it's system V and > everything AT^HUSL did is evil, of course. They try to map graphs into a line. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTEC

make world broken

1999-12-16 Thread Jos Backus
cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/f771; make build-tools cc -O -pipe -march=pentium -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_T ARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/us r/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/f771/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/f771/../cc_tools -I/u

make world [bsd.info.mk] - patch ?

1999-12-16 Thread Brian Somers
Hi, I can only assume that I'm doing something strange locally, but I've now got two machines that do this, and my third -current machine hasn't been installworld'd in a while The problem is that I can't ``make install'' any info files... I get something like: $ make clean && make depend

Re: Status of the netatalk stack

1999-12-16 Thread Patrick Bihan-Faou
Hi Julian, > the kernel code for appletalk is 'out of date' but it is also > somewhat modified.. > > If you want to work with it, let me know and I can help as I did the > original integration into our tree, > Well I would definitelly appreciate a quick summary of the changes that you did to int

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 1999-Dec-16 19:55:35 +1100, Steve O'Hara-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 15-Dec-99 Oliver Fromme wrote: >> Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current: >> > gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable. >> >> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/mi

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Tom Bartol
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Bartol >writes: > : I tried 3.0-current after this merge, suspend and resume worked fine on my > : 770 with the exception of uptime. > > I can confirm that uptime, at least as reported by uptime(1), isn't > increased

Re: Status of the netatalk stack

1999-12-16 Thread Julian Elischer
the kernel code for appletalk is 'out of date' but it is also somewhat modified.. If you want to work with it, let me know and I can help as I did the original integration into our tree, Julian On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: > Hi, > > > I was looking at the netatalk packag

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: >> >> "What is a PPS signal ?" >> >> Typically handheld/boat naviation stuff. The NMEA or other >> serial timecodes are at best in the 1msec class. > >Again, for me this is acceptable. It would be nice to have it better >than this

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: >> : You may not know the answer to this, but it's worth a shot. Wht kind of >> : accuracy can we expect using 'cheap' off-the-shelf GPS receivers? >> >> We're getting, with ntp4 on a 3.x kernel, about +- 4uSec with a cheap >> gps receiver +

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Bartol writes: : I tried 3.0-current after this merge, suspend and resume worked fine on my : 770 with the exception of uptime. I can confirm that uptime, at least as reported by uptime(1), isn't increased in the latest -current. Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: : > : Cool. I was under the impression that the cheap NMEA signals only gave : > : 2-5sec accuracy given the 2400 baud speed issues. : > : > If you have a PPS signal, then you can get fairly close even if the : > inforation about the PPS signa

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> >> Between the two of us Dave Mills and I have managed to get the > >> "nanokernel" to act sensibly in the domain inside +/- 1usec which > >> the old one didn't. (See http://gps.freebsd.dk for what kind of > >> performance this can result in, given appropriate hardware). > > > >You may not know

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Tom Bartol
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Bartol >writes: > : IIRC it does update uptime properly after a suspend in 2.2.8 but does not > : do so in 3.X and -current on my ThinkPad 770. > > define correctly. Eg, if I suspend for an hour it adds an hour? >

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> : Cool. I was under the impression that the cheap NMEA signals only gave > : 2-5sec accuracy given the 2400 baud speed issues. > > If you have a PPS signal, then you can get fairly close even if the > inforation about the PPS signal comes in at 2400 baud. Hmm, how do I find out how good it is

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: : Cool. I was under the impression that the cheap NMEA signals only gave : 2-5sec accuracy given the 2400 baud speed issues. If you have a PPS signal, then you can get fairly close even if the inforation about the PPS signal comes in at 2400 b

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: >> Between the two of us Dave Mills and I have managed to get the >> "nanokernel" to act sensibly in the domain inside +/- 1usec which >> the old one didn't. (See http://gps.freebsd.dk for what kind of >> performance this can result in, given

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> : > : You may not know the answer to this, but it's worth a shot. Wht kind of > : > : accuracy can we expect using 'cheap' off-the-shelf GPS receivers? > : > > : > We're getting, with ntp4 on a 3.x kernel, about +- 4uSec with a cheap > : > gps receiver + atomic clock on a i486 class machine. >

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Alexander Langer
Also sprach Oliver Fromme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable. > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip ok, even better :-) Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Bartol writes: : IIRC it does update uptime properly after a suspend in 2.2.8 but does not : do so in 3.X and -current on my ThinkPad 770. define correctly. Eg, if I suspend for an hour it adds an hour? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: : > : You may not know the answer to this, but it's worth a shot. Wht kind of : > : accuracy can we expect using 'cheap' off-the-shelf GPS receivers? : > : > We're getting, with ntp4 on a 3.x kernel, about +- 4uSec with a cheap : > gps receive

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : Well, I don't think anybody has seriously thought about what the right : semantics for APM is, and consequently the code we have is rather evil. Don't know if I'd go so far as to say evil, but there are some pola issues. : What to do is

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> : If people do a "settimeofday" we change the boot time since the > : amount of time we've been up *IS* known for sure, whereas the boottime > : is only an estimate. > > There is one problem with this. The amount of uptime isn't the same > as the amount of time since the machine booted. How c

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Tom Bartol
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > : If people do a "settimeofday" we change the boot time since the > : amount of time we've been up *IS* known for sure, whereas the boottime > : is only an estimate. > > There is one problem wi

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> : You may not know the answer to this, but it's worth a shot. Wht kind of > : accuracy can we expect using 'cheap' off-the-shelf GPS receivers? > > We're getting, with ntp4 on a 3.x kernel, about +- 4uSec with a cheap > gps receiver + atomic clock on a i486 class machine. I've got the cheap g

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote in list.freebsd-current: > On 15-Dec-99 Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current: > > > gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable. > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip > >

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >: If people do a "settimeofday" we change the boot time since the >: amount of time we've been up *IS* known for sure, whereas the boottime >: is only an estimate. > >There is one problem

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: : You may not know the answer to this, but it's worth a shot. Wht kind of : accuracy can we expect using 'cheap' off-the-shelf GPS receivers? We're getting, with ntp4 on a 3.x kernel, about +- 4uSec with a cheap gps receiver + atomic clock on

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : If people do a "settimeofday" we change the boot time since the : amount of time we've been up *IS* known for sure, whereas the boottime : is only an estimate. There is one problem with this. The amount of uptime isn't the same as the am

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Jacob writes: : Huh? What about the impact on all ntp.conf files? Or is this seamless? Except for additional clocks, I've had no problems using old ntp.conf files with the new ntpd. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Bob Vaughan
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:09:32 -0800 > From: Sanford Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hm, if correct, Orca would make a good codename for a sysadm tool: > > > > Ordinary Ramblers Can [now] Admin [FreeBSD] > > Someone pointed out that Orca was already taken The question NOW > is: Ca

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Neal Westfall >writes: > : "System Hoser and Mangling Utility" > > Shamu Helps Any Moronic User I need not hear a single more suggestion... brilliant! :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas [EM

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
: : :>Yeah, uptime is moving which makes it difficult for me too. When new :>machines enter the network, they need to announce a number which is used to :>decice who will become the master if the current master disappears. I could :>just announce currenttime-uptime, but that's got a slightly diff

Re: AMI MegaRAID datapoint.

1999-12-16 Thread David Gilbert
> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> It sounds like the second RAID-5 bug listed on the page I Brad> mentioned: >>> 28 September 1999: We have seen hangs when perform heavy I/O to >>> RAID-5 plexes. The symptoms are that processes hang waiting on >>> vrlock and flswai

Re: AMI MegaRAID datapoint.

1999-12-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:48 AM -0500 1999/12/16, David Gilbert wrote: > It's a really long thread. I'm not going to repeat it here. > Basically, under "enough" load, vinum trashes the kernel stack in such > a way that debugging is very tough. It sounds like the second RAID-5 bug listed on the page I men

Re: Linux vs. OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. NetBSD (fwd)

1999-12-16 Thread Thomas Veldhouse
The only point I would like to argue is that this is not a comparison of Apples to Apples. Linux is just a kernel. There are Linux only utilities however (i.e. util-linux). Each of the BSDs that you mentioned are full operating systems. The closest comparison you can get is to compare a Linux

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
>Yeah, uptime is moving which makes it difficult for me too. When new >machines enter the network, they need to announce a number which is used to >decice who will become the master if the current master disappears. I could >just announce currenttime-uptime, but that's got a slightly different >m

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Kevin Day
> > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Day writes: > > > > >Ack, I was using this very same thing for several devices in an isolated > > >peer-to-peer network to decide who the 'master' was. (Whoever had been up > > >longest knew more about the state of the network) Having this change could

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> Between the two of us Dave Mills and I have managed to get the > "nanokernel" to act sensibly in the domain inside +/- 1usec which > the old one didn't. (See http://gps.freebsd.dk for what kind of > performance this can result in, given appropriate hardware). You may not know the answer to thi

framemaker for linux

1999-12-16 Thread Andrew Atrens
All, This might be a linux ABI question, or it might be an `ld.so' question, so arguably I could have sent this to emulation, questions or since I run -current, current, or perhaps hackers, at any rate here goes - I've got `framemaker for linux' and am getting - # maker5X.exe maker5X.exe: er

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Reimer
Matt, you are a tenacious, fearsome bug hunter! Matt Matthew Dillon wrote: > > Here's a general update on this bug report to -current. It took all day > but I was finally able to reproduce Andrew's bug. > > You guys are going to *love* this. > > NFS uses the kernel 'boottime'

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
Thanks for the very clear writeup of what we can expect. I'm happy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob writes: > >Huh? What about the impact on all ntp.conf files? Or is this seamless? I was just about to start to compose an email with some info on this one when you email arrived. /etc/ntp.conf is the same unless you have a refclock. If you have a r

Re: Linux vs. OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. NetBSD (fwd)

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
fyi -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:15:48 -0500 (EST) From: Paul B. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux vs. OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. NetBSD Resent-Date: 16 Dec 1999 17:15:54 - Resent-From: [EMAIL PRO

Status of the netatalk stack

1999-12-16 Thread Patrick Bihan-Faou
Hi, I was looking at the netatalk package and the appletalk support in the kernel source code and I realized that they are based on the same code originally (the code from netatalk). The kernel code however is quite out of date from what can be found in the netatalk-asun package. I was wonderin

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Day writes: >> >> >Ack, I was using this very same thing for several devices in an isolated >> >peer-to-peer network to decide who the 'master' was. (Whoever had been up >> >longest knew more about the

Re: HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
Huh? What about the impact on all ntp.conf files? Or is this seamless? On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > This is a HEADSUP message to warn all current users that tha following is > being done: > > - disable xntpd build > - enable ntp build > - removal of old xntpd/xntpdc binaries

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Peter Wemm
Nate Williams wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Day writes: > > > > >Ack, I was using this very same thing for several devices in an isolated > > >peer-to-peer network to decide who the 'master' was. (Whoever had been up > > >longest knew more about the state of the network) Having

More on problems with new pnp code

1999-12-16 Thread D. Rock
Hi, yesterday I reported a bug in the resource allocator for PnP ISA devices: The align-field is ignored for IO port resources, e.g. device A wants io range 0x100-0x3ff, size=0x1, align=0x1 device B wants io range 0x100-0x3f7, size=0x8, align=0x8 device A gets assigned first and will receive a

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Nate Williams
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Day writes: > > >Ack, I was using this very same thing for several devices in an isolated > >peer-to-peer network to decide who the 'master' was. (Whoever had been up > >longest knew more about the state of the network) Having this change could > >cause wei

Re: sh(1) broken caching [was: Re: Broken sh(1)?]

1999-12-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:40:20PM +0100, Martin Cracauer wrote: > You can also fool sh into running the *wrong* binary if if you have > two in showdowed paths: pdksh does not suffer from either this problem or the problem that started this thread (and does not coredump). We've shown in the past

Re: AMI MegaRAID datapoint.

1999-12-16 Thread David Gilbert
> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> This is impressive and subject to the bug that I mentioned in >> -STABLE which still hasn't been found. Brad> Which one is this? It's a really long thread. I'm not going to repeat it here. Basically, under "enough" load, vinum trashe

Re: AMI MegaRAID datapoint.

1999-12-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:52 AM -0500 1999/12/16, David Gilbert wrote: > Now... using vinum and either the 2940U2W (Adaptec LVD) or the TekRAM > (NCR) LVD (using the sym0 device) gives 30 to 35 M/s under RAID-5. That's really interesting, because there are at least two or three outstanding bugs in the vi

AMI MegaRAID datapoint.

1999-12-16 Thread David Gilbert
I have the Enterprise 1400 Megaraid adapter with (currently 16M) on it. I have tested the various modes of operation (different raid levels and striping) and find it to be working well. My LVD array consists of 8 18G Quamtum IV's. Now... using vinum and either the 2940U2W (Adaptec LVD) or the T

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Matthew Dillon writes: > > And so Andrews bug report comes into the light! His poor client > (and mine once I reproduced the bug) got into a state, due to the > server returning a different version id for virtually every packet, > where it resent the same write data over t

Re: sh(1) broken caching [was: Re: Broken sh(1)?]

1999-12-16 Thread Martin Cracauer
You can also fool sh into running the *wrong* binary if if you have two in showdowed paths: #! /bin/sh test -d foo1 || mkdir foo1 test -d foo2 || mkdir foo2 test -d foo2 || mkdir foo3 echo 'echo :one' > foo1/run echo 'echo :two' > foo2/run echo 'echo :three' > foo2/run3 chmod a+x */run* hash -r

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: > On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:02:24PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > Uhm, that wont be new WD drives, as they are exactly the same as > > IBM drives give or take the label :) > > Huh? That I didn't know. So you're saying that WD and IBM 18 Gb disks are > the same har

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:02:24PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > Uhm, that wont be new WD drives, as they are exactly the same as > IBM drives give or take the label :) Huh? That I didn't know. So you're saying that WD and IBM 18 Gb disks are the same hardware? My disk: ad0: ATA-4 disk at at

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: > On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 07:10:46AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: > > > Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - >resetting > > Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > Dec 16 07:01:24 test /kernel:

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 07:10:46AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: > Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting > Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done > Dec 16 07:01:24 test /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 09:25:11AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: > > > > I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. I've been > > posting about them on several occasions some time ago. I haven't been able > > to pinn it down, however. IF they occu

HEADSUP: ntp4 to replace xntpd

1999-12-16 Thread Ollivier Robert
This is a HEADSUP message to warn all current users that tha following is being done: - disable xntpd build - enable ntp build - removal of old xntpd/xntpdc binaries as they've been renamed - modifications in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to take the new daemon into account. xntpd will be "cvs removed

Re: ATA driver problem?? Solution (in my case)!

1999-12-16 Thread Devin Butterfield
Hi Soren, No unfortunately it still fails with the patch and the UDMA disabled in the BIOS. I'd be happy to try anything else you can think of. :) Thanks. -- Regards, Devin. Soren Schmidt wrote: > > It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: > > Hi Soren/group, > > > > After spending a little time sni

Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) )

1999-12-16 Thread Jos Backus
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 12:07:49AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I would prefer if the lines could be added to /etc/ttys somewhat > like: > sshd "/usr/local/sbin/sshd" none ondemand > > And then we could > telinit -on sshd > telinit -off sshd hal:/service# ls -l telnetd tot

Re: ATA driver problem?? Solution (in my case)!

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: > Hi Soren/group, > > After spending a little time sniffing around in my BIOS I realized that > my BIOS (Award BIOS) defaults to disabling UDMA for both master and > slave and for some reason I never thought to check thisduh. Anyway > after setting this to "a

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Dave J. Boers wrote: > I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. [...] > There are two important aspects of the problem: > > 1. The problem does not always occur: it's unpredictable > 2. When it occurs, I can actually hear the disk spinnin

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Dave J. Boers wrote: > Could you tell met the exact time on which these messages occurred? > Anywhere near 10:15 or 9:15 ? nope. the time is unpredictable. sometimes it can work more than a day without spilling out those messages /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send m

Re: ATA driver problem?? Solution (in my case)!

1999-12-16 Thread Devin Butterfield
Hi Soren/group, After spending a little time sniffing around in my BIOS I realized that my BIOS (Award BIOS) defaults to disabling UDMA for both master and slave and for some reason I never thought to check thisduh. Anyway after setting this to "auto" for both master and slave the problem see

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:29:30PM +0600, Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! > same here, dmesg output: > > ata_command: timeout waiting for interrupt > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ata0-master: ad_timeo

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: > That's interesting...In my case it is quite easily reproduced (very > predictable). All I have to do is reboot and then run sysinstall and > when it probes the devices the disks time out. So far I have not been > able to get this behavior at any other time. > >

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 09:36:42AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > One more thing, do you have SMART enabled in your BIOS ??, if so > turn it off, and see if that changes anything... I don't recall having it enabled; but I will check to make sure as soon as I get home from work (which is still some

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Devin Butterfield
Hi, "Dave J. Boers" wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 08:29:14AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: > > > I just recently compiled a kernel with the new ATA driver and have > > > discovered a problem: if I run sysinstall, right when it says "probing > > > devices,

Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )

1999-12-16 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 01:22:46AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: > > > runlevels, OpenBSD does not or goes with an entirely different > > system), them would it be fair to consider FreeBSD "BSD"? The > > advantage here is that FreeBSD would mature into it's own type of > > UNIX with a BSD heri

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-16 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 15-Dec-99 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current: > > gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable. > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip It requires the 50Kb libz.so.2 though and some of libc. ---

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Day writes: >Ack, I was using this very same thing for several devices in an isolated >peer-to-peer network to decide who the 'master' was. (Whoever had been up >longest knew more about the state of the network) Having this change could >cause weirdness for m

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: > > > > I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. I've been > > posting about them on several occasions some time ago. I haven't been able > > to pinn it down, however. IF they occur, they occur somewhere between 9

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: > > I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. I've been > posting about them on several occasions some time ago. I haven't been able > to pinn it down, however. IF they occur, they occur somewhere between 9:15 > and 9:20 a.m. OR p.m. But they don

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 08:29:14AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: > > I just recently compiled a kernel with the new ATA driver and have > > discovered a problem: if I run sysinstall, right when it says "probing > > devices, please wait (this can be a while)" error

Re: Serious server-side NFS problem

1999-12-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :> :> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Dillon writes: :> > :> >:>NFS uses the kernel 'boottime' structure to generate its version id. :> >:>Now normally you might believe that this structure, once set, will :> >:>never change. The authors of NFS certainly make that assumpti