Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Mark Murray
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Murray writ es: > : > I don't know either. However, it might be because of permission > : > problems. It will return EINVAL when it can't open the apm file for > : > write. Maybe a devfs related issue? > : > : I don't have devfs on this system yet. > > Od

diff(1) is broken

2000-09-14 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Some time ago somebody tried to fix "\ No newline at end of file" bug in diff and seems that he had not reached the target - the diff is still broked, however in a slightly different way (tested both with 4-stable and 5-current). See: http://people.freebsd.org/~sobomax/config.h.orig http://peopl

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Mark Murray
> : > I don't know either. However, it might be because of permission > : > problems. It will return EINVAL when it can't open the apm file for > : > write. Maybe a devfs related issue? > : > : Hmm, it may not be using the right perms during make_dev perhaps. > > Hmmm, they look good to me.

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Murray writes: : > I don't know either. However, it might be because of permission : > problems. It will return EINVAL when it can't open the apm file for : > write. Maybe a devfs related issue? : : I don't have devfs on this system yet. Odd that. That's t

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Mark Murray
> I don't know either. However, it might be because of permission > problems. It will return EINVAL when it can't open the apm file for > write. Maybe a devfs related issue? I don't have devfs on this system yet. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscr

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Mark Murray
> > : zzz/apm -z gives me "apm: ioctl(APMIO_SUSPEND): Invalid argument" > > > > I noticed this with the first SMPNG kernel I tried. The newer one > > this problem disappeared. Don't know why it would matter, but I may > > have missed a commit while in new mexico. > > It may be a kernel/world s

Re: No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-14 Thread Wes Peters
Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Doesn't Oracle run MUCH better when given raw block disk devices to store > > data on? > > Oracle wants to cache it's own data, it doesn't want the buffer cache > behind it. Yes, now it's all coming back. It's amazing how much you can forget in the space of a decad

Re: No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-14 Thread Wes Peters
Greg Lehey wrote: > > FWIW, I was never happy with the removal of block devices either. I > was shouted down with "can you point to any one use they are?", to > which I replied "just because I don't know of one doesn't mean there > isn't one, or that there will never be one in the future". This

Re: problems with aureal soundcard: kernel fault when playing mp3s

2000-09-14 Thread Alexander Matey
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:30:48AM -0700, Peter S. Housel wrote: > > [Alexander, I'm Cc:ing you on this just in case you have heard of > > anyone else having similar problems with Aureal cards with recent > > -currents] Sorry, I couldn't respond any earlier. I was out of business for a while. >

Re: Latest kernel/module restructuring

2000-09-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 06:11:20PM +0200, Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen wrote: > Hmm, how about those of us doing buildworlds/buildkernels on > one (nfs)server for subsequent installworlds/installkernels > on multiple other machines? Use the `make reinstall' target with KERNEL_KO set to the name of th

Re: Please consider some cosmetic changes in boot messages

2000-09-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 06:28:05PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > I'm also not sure where the rumors about a FreeBSD 4.1.5 got started > > since I'd certainly never planned on such a thing, that, I think, 4.1.1 rather than 4.1.5 please. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "un

Re: mtree again

2000-09-14 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 05:41:46PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Andrey A. Chernov" writes: > : Is there any progress in mtree fixing process? > > It hasn't been high on my list. I'd be happy to review patches, > however. Here it is: --- usr.sbin/mtree/mtree.c.ori

Re: Question

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Smith
> > I have two questions. Recently, I started seeing the message: > module sn already present! > when dhclient runs on my sn device. What causes this? It's caused by the 'sn' driver's module being called 'sn' rather than 'if_sn'. The code in ifconfig that tries to autoload modules for

Question

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
I have two questions. Recently, I started seeing the message: module sn already present! when dhclient runs on my sn device. What causes this? Second, on both my sn card and my aue cards are installed I get: WARNING: Driver mistake: repeat make_dev("bpf0") What do these mean?

Re: mtree again

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Andrey A. Chernov" writes: : Is there any progress in mtree fixing process? It hasn't been high on my list. I'd be happy to review patches, however. : I think there is acceptable solution, in following steps: : : 1) Return mtree defaults. : 2) Add -L : 3) Add ${

mtree again

2000-09-14 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
Is there any progress in mtree fixing process? I think there is acceptable solution, in following steps: 1) Return mtree defaults. 2) Add -L 3) Add ${MTREE_FOLLOW_LINKS} to mtree calls (which expands to nothing in old systems, so we not broke anything in the transition process) 4) Add MTREE_FOLL

Re: newbus docs

2000-09-14 Thread Matthew Jacob
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Jacob >writes: > : I would imagine an overall architecture doc. Sort of like what > : Jordan just did for sysinst (e.g.). > > Then he should ask for an architecture doc rather than being so snippy > and snide about "actual documentation." Probably, but

Re: newbus docs

2000-09-14 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian Elischer writes: >: Someone once mentionned an actual >: document but I've been unable to find it. >: Was it my imagination? >: (and if so, why isn't there one?) > >What do you mean actual document? man pages are actu

Re: newbus docs

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Jacob writes: : I would imagine an overall architecture doc. Sort of like what : Jordan just did for sysinst (e.g.). Then he should ask for an architecture doc rather than being so snippy and snide about "actual documentation." Warner To Unsubscribe: sen

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-14 Thread John Baldwin
Ben Smithurst wrote: > Bruce Evans wrote: > > > On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote: > > > >> After poking around a bit with remote GDB, this seems to be caused by a > >> stray IRQ 7, since irq == 7, ir == ithds[irq] == NULL, ir->foo == BOOM. > >> > >> The attached rather crude patch has "f

Re: newbus docs

2000-09-14 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian Elischer writes: > : Someone once mentionned an actual > : document but I've been unable to find it. > : Was it my imagination? > : (and if so, why isn't there one?) > > What do you mean actual document? man pages a

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-14 Thread Ben Smithurst
Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote: > >> After poking around a bit with remote GDB, this seems to be caused by a >> stray IRQ 7, since irq == 7, ir == ithds[irq] == NULL, ir->foo == BOOM. >> >> The attached rather crude patch has "fixed" the problem for now, but >> doe

Re: newbus docs

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian Elischer writes: : Someone once mentionned an actual : document but I've been unable to find it. : Was it my imagination? : (and if so, why isn't there one?) What do you mean actual document? man pages are actual documents. What kind of document do you want?

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Garrett Wollman writes: : It's required if we ever get around to supporting secure set-id shell : scripts. (I think this was the rationale for originally introducing : it.) It also helps when bogus programs refuse to read from the : standard input. I'd like to see

Re: "!.*" [ was: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you! ]

2000-09-14 Thread patl
On 14-Sep-00 at 05:37, Poul-Henning Kamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >You think adding a hack to every program to support "-" to mean > >stdout/stdin is better? > > The majority of these programs could be handled by adding knowledge > of "-" as a magic filename to fopen(3). > > At the same time

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Jos Backus
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:53:54PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > (Probably easier, actually, but I don't know AWK well enough to > actually implement it.) awk -F: '$0 ~/^(#|$)/ {next} {print "#define\tUID_" toupper($1) "\t" $3}' ${PASSWD} > ${.TARGET} -- Jos Backus _/ _/_

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: >: Warner Losh wrote: >: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: >: > : It may be a kernel/world sync problem. Although I don't know why the ioctl >: > : argument would suddenly

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
< It would only take a small amount of Makefile magic to fix > this... something like: > perl -ne 'split(/:/); print ("#define\tUID_", uc($_[0]), "\t", \ >$_[2], "\n");' ${PASSWD} >${.TARGET} Oh, I forgot to point out -- this would be easy to do in AWK a

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Garrett Wollman writes: : < said: : > Hmmm, they look good to me. Maybe Mark's system doesn't have group : > operator at gid 5. That's one bad thing about the new DEVFS: it : > appears to enshrine things like this in the kernel... : : It would only take a small am

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Hmmm, they look good to me. Maybe Mark's system doesn't have group > operator at gid 5. That's one bad thing about the new DEVFS: it > appears to enshrine things like this in the kernel... It would only take a small amount of Makefile magic to fix this... something like: PASSWD?=

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 11:48 AM +0200 9/14/00, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} >and /dev/fd is bogus. It looks like something which happened >"because we can" more than something which has a legitimate need. > >If anything I would propose we ditch it... I thi

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: : Warner Losh wrote: : > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: : > : It may be a kernel/world sync problem. Although I don't know why the ioctl : > : argument would suddenly become invalid. Maybe it passes in a struct ucred, : > :

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread John Baldwin
Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: > : It may be a kernel/world sync problem. Although I don't know why the ioctl > : argument would suddenly become invalid. Maybe it passes in a struct ucred, > : which changed in size just before the SMPng commit? > > I do

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Baldwin writes: : It may be a kernel/world sync problem. Although I don't know why the ioctl : argument would suddenly become invalid. Maybe it passes in a struct ucred, : which changed in size just before the SMPng commit? I don't know either. However, it m

[CFR] KLDfy ip6_fw

2000-09-14 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, I made KLD module of ip6_fw. Please review it. http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/ipv6/FreeBSD/ip6_fw-kld-5C.diff for 5-CURRENT http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/ipv6/FreeBSD/ip6_fw-kld-41R.diff for 4.1-RELEASE Thanks, -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread John Baldwin
Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Murray writes: > : > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Warner Losh wri > : tes: > : > : 2) APM is now broken. It worked after the ACPI integration, > : > :but after the SMPNG stuff neither apm -z nor the BIOS keys > : > :

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Donn Miller
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Pentchev writes > > > > I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > > is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > > than so

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread John Baldwin
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Pentchev writes > : > >On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 01:12:10AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> I've never thought of a use for fdescfs... > > > >Well.. just a trivial example - imagine a program which takes a filename > >as an argument

newbus docs

2000-09-14 Thread Julian Elischer
Well, it's time I learned about the rather cryptic newbus stuff... So where are the best docs to read on it.? Ones that give an overview? "UTSL" and "See man 9 {cryptic function name}" are not the answers I'm looking for... Someone once mentionned an actual document but I've been unable to

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Ben Smithurst
Garrett Wollman wrote: > [/dev/stdin] also helps when bogus programs refuse to read from the > standard input. Or if you want to read more than one file, one of which is standard input. e.g. gzip -dc oldlogs.*.gz | cat /dev/stdin todays-log | log-analyzer ... Of course that will work with "-"

cvsup3 now carries rsa_eay.c

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
MIT's Technology Licensing Office has given me the OK to distribute rsa_eay.c, so it will now be available from cvsup3.freebsd.org (aka freebsd.lcs.mit.edu). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same [EMAIL PROTECTED] | O Siem / The fires of f

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > than something which has a legitimate need. It's required if we ever get around to supporting secure set-id shell scripts. (I think th

Re: Star Office and editor

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
I just realized this may be a difference due to a between -current and -stable, so I've moved discussion to -current to check. Apologies if this was the wrong thing to do. On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mike Meyer wrote: > It then fails to install for me with the error messages: > > /tmp/sv001.tmp/setup.b

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Frank Mayhar
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > than something which has a legitimate need. I strongly disagree. I actually have a script that I use daily which requi

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Withro w writes: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >:- The majority of these programs could be handled by adding knowledge of >:- "-" as a magic filename to fopen(3). > >Suppose I *want* a filename called "-"? My tough luck, huh? ./- Very few programs understand

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Smithurs > t writes: > >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > >> I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > >> is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > >> than something whic

/proc & /dev/std* [Was: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!]

2000-09-14 Thread Konstantin Chuguev
Johnny Eriksson wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > :- The majority of these programs could be handled by adding knowledge of > > :- "-" as a magic filename to fopen(3). > > > > Suppose I *want* a filename called "-"? My tough luck, huh? > > Could you settle for "./-"? > I think any "magic"

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Johnny Eriksson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > :- The majority of these programs could be handled by adding knowledge of > :- "-" as a magic filename to fopen(3). > > Suppose I *want* a filename called "-"? My tough luck, huh? Could you settle for "./-"? > Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 288 8256) > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Robert Withrow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :- The majority of these programs could be handled by adding knowledge of :- "-" as a magic filename to fopen(3). Suppose I *want* a filename called "-"? My tough luck, huh? I *like* /dev/stdin. It's orthogonal! -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 288 8256) [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 02:37:06PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: [snip] > The majority of these programs could be handled by adding knowledge > of "-" as a magic filename to fopen(3). > > At the same time I would really love if we implemented "|.*" to mean > "do an popen(3)" instead. Heh, and

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2000-09-14 Thread Danny Braniss
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Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Smithurs t writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd >> is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more >> than something which has a legitimate need. > >You think ad

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Ben Smithurst
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > than something which has a legitimate need. You think adding a hack to every program to support "-" to mean stdout/std

Re: miniperl not found error?

2000-09-14 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Joel M. Baldwin wrote: > okI give up! > > I've been getting this error for ages when doing a > 'make depend' on the current tree and up to now > I've just done a 'make -k' to get it to work. > > Whats the final solution so I don't have to do this? > > What stupid thing

Re: call for testers: init securelevel patch

2000-09-14 Thread Ben Smithurst
Leif Neland wrote: > How is that done? > Will gdb not attach to init, or will init not let gdb attach? The kernel won't let GDB attach. Look at the code for ptrace()... /* can't trace init when securelevel > 0 */ if (securelevel > 0 && p->p_pid == 1)

Re: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?

2000-09-14 Thread Nik Clayton
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:48:20AM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC - NOC wrote: > You're running vmware sucsessfully in --current? Yes. -current from August 18th, and I'm running the vmware2-2.0.2.621 port. Installing Win98 took about 4 hours though -- most of that was wh

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Pentchev writes : >On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 01:12:10AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: >> I've never thought of a use for fdescfs... > >Well.. just a trivial example - imagine a program which takes a filename >as an argument; imagine yourself trying to pipe somet

FW: (KAME-snap 3318) Panic on current (12 Sept)

2000-09-14 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Hi ... I'm running a current machine of 12 Sept although this problem also occured on a current of a few days earlier ... This only happens when using the IPv6 IPSec code during the day, it is readily reproduceable. If during the day I load the racoon daemon and load keys and establish a IPSec

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 01:12:10AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > I've never thought of a use for fdescfs... Well.. just a trivial example - imagine a program which takes a filename as an argument; imagine yourself trying to pipe something into it - passing /dev/fd/0 as a filename to process wou

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Julian Elischer
I've never thought of a use for fdescfs... -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( OZ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in: Perth v To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the

miniperl not found error?

2000-09-14 Thread Joel M. Baldwin
okI give up! I've been getting this error for ages when doing a 'make depend' on the current tree and up to now I've just done a 'make -k' to get it to work. Whats the final solution so I don't have to do this? What stupid thing have I missed somewhere along the line. ===> gnu/usr.bin/per