Jenkins build is back to stable : FreeBSD_HEAD-tests2 #609

2015-01-28 Thread jenkins-admin
See https://jenkins.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD_HEAD-tests2/609/

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Re: drm2 regression: backlight adjustment on ivybridge no longer works

2015-01-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
ugh, so because i can't sleep, I read the Linux i915 history for
backlight changes.

Turns out if I disable bit 30 in ivb_pch_pwm_override() to register
BLC_PWM_PCH_CTL1, the acpi video setting works. The keyboard settings
still don't, but I'll worry about that later.

Bit 30 in the linux drm code is:

#define   BLM_PCH_OVERRIDE_ENABLE   (1  30)

The linux dri code doesn't set that for ivybridge - only for broadwell.

(also, the linux driver has POSTING_READ() which I'm guessing is to
ensure things made it out to the device and have been flushed before
doing another IO operation.)

I have my (via sysctl) panel backlight control working again.



-adrian
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System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
Hi

Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out there which
have best support for FreeBSD?

MEN
Variscite
Technologic system
Adlink
etc.

What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
2-4 cores
1.5-2.0 GHz
2 GB RAM
~16 GB Storage
USB 3.0
PCB size about one to two credit cards.

I wish to minimize the amount of porting needed so I am very grateful if
someone has good insights in this area. And of course, it would help a lot
if it was a manufacturer who is willing to provide datasheets to make
porting possible..

Thanks!
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sd card on hp laptop doesn't work anymore on 11-current

2015-01-28 Thread Eric Camachat
My SD card slot was working before, but it no longer works.
looks like the mmc driver for hp laptop is gone.

$ dmesg|grep -iE 'sdhc|mmc'
sdhci_pci0: Generic SD HCI mem 0xd4603000-0xd46030ff irq 18 at
device 0.2 on pci35
sdhci_pci0: 1 slot(s) allocated
sdhci_pci0: Generic SD HCI mem 0xd4603000-0xd46030ff irq 18 at
device 0.2 on pci35
sdhci_pci0: 1 slot(s) allocated
sdhci_pci0: Generic SD HCI mem 0xd4603000-0xd46030ff irq 18 at
device 0.2 on pci35
sdhci_pci0: 1 slot(s) allocated

it was a mmc* there.

$ pciconf -lv
...
none1@pci0:35:0:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x161c103c chip=0x2380197b
rev=0x30 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.'
device = 'IEEE 1394 Host Controller'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = FireWire
none2@pci0:35:0:1: class=0x088000 card=0x161c103c chip=0x2392197b
rev=0x30 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.'
device = 'SD/MMC Host Controller'
class  = base peripheral
sdhci_pci0@pci0:35:0:2: class=0x080501 card=0x161c103c chip=0x2391197b
rev=0x30 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.'
device = 'Standard SD Host Controller'
class  = base peripheral
subclass   = SD host controller
...

no driver attached to mmc

Thanks,
Eric
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Jenkins build is still unstable: FreeBSD_HEAD-tests2 #607

2015-01-28 Thread jenkins-admin
See https://jenkins.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD_HEAD-tests2/607/

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Re: drm2 regression: backlight adjustment on ivybridge no longer works

2015-01-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi!

Good catch! But nope, didn't fix it.



-adrian


On 27 January 2015 at 23:23, Andrew Wilcox awil...@wilcox-tech.com wrote:
 Ranjan1018 . sent: 27 January 2015 23:42:
 The regression was introduced in r277487.

 Looking closer at this revision, I believe I may see the issue.  Most of the 
 new tunables introduced in dev/drm2/i915/i915_drv.c are uninitialised and 
 thus probably contain junk.  It likely works for me because the firmware of 
 my laptop 0s memory on EFI boot.

 I have uploaded a diff here that I believe may fix this.  Please test and let 
 me know:

 http://foxkit.us/FreeBSD/i915-uninitialised-var-fix.diff

 Best,
 Andrew

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Re: drm2 regression: backlight adjustment on ivybridge no longer works

2015-01-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
and the commit from linux:

commit 7aa1e7f06d6ea1bce3b27630d50769d13da28b1a
Author: Daniel Vetter daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch
Date:   Wed Jun 27 16:43:36 2012 +0200

Revert drm/i915: allow PCH PWM override on IVB

This reverts commit f82cfb6bcda164ef3a66b8c3fc549b1f9bdd09ad.

This breaks the backlight controls on my IVB asus zenbook with an eDP
panel.

I guess the right fix would be to read this bit and use either the pch
or the cpu register to frob the backlight values. But that is stuff
for -next.

Cc: Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org
Signed-Off-by: Daniel Vetter daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch



On 28 January 2015 at 01:11, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote:
 ugh, so because i can't sleep, I read the Linux i915 history for
 backlight changes.

 Turns out if I disable bit 30 in ivb_pch_pwm_override() to register
 BLC_PWM_PCH_CTL1, the acpi video setting works. The keyboard settings
 still don't, but I'll worry about that later.

 Bit 30 in the linux drm code is:

 #define   BLM_PCH_OVERRIDE_ENABLE   (1  30)

 The linux dri code doesn't set that for ivybridge - only for broadwell.

 (also, the linux driver has POSTING_READ() which I'm guessing is to
 ensure things made it out to the device and have been flushed before
 doing another IO operation.)

 I have my (via sysctl) panel backlight control working again.



 -adrian
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Re: panic in softdep_slowdown()

2015-01-28 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:31:03PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
 Got this in bhyve VM on boot up and mount:
 
 Starting file system checks:
 /dev/vtbd0p3: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS
 /dev/vtbd0p3: clean, 1617700 free (222876 frags, 174353 blocks, 5.9% 
 fragmentation)
 
 
 Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode
 cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
 instruction pointer = 0x20:0x80895d63
 stack pointer   = 0x28:0xfe001eb5f220
 frame pointer   = 0x28:0xfe001eb5f2b0
 code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1
 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 current process = 49 (mount)
 [ thread pid 49 tid 100045 ]
 Stopped at  softdep_slowdown+0x1d3: idivl   %ecx,%eax
 db bt
 Tracing pid 49 tid 100045 td 0xf800026ee000
 softdep_slowdown() at softdep_slowdown+0x1d3/frame 0xfe001eb5f2b0
 ffs_truncate() at ffs_truncate+0x1be/frame 0xfe001eb5f640
 ufs_setattr() at ufs_setattr+0x4e5/frame 0xfe001eb5f6a0
 VOP_SETATTR_APV() at VOP_SETATTR_APV+0x22a/frame 0xfe001eb5f710
 VOP_SETATTR() at VOP_SETATTR+0x45/frame 0xfe001eb5f760
 vn_truncate() at vn_truncate+0x196/frame 0xfe001eb5f870
 fo_truncate() at fo_truncate+0x41/frame 0xfe001eb5f8b0
 kern_ftruncate() at kern_ftruncate+0x16d/frame 0xfe001eb5f920
 sys_ftruncate() at sys_ftruncate+0x27/frame 0xfe001eb5f940
 syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x46e/frame 0xfe001eb5f9b0
 amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x1f/frame 0xfe001eb5fab0
 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xfb/frame 0xfe001eb5fab0
 --- syscall (480, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_ftruncate), rip = 0x800b511fa, rsp = 
 0x7fffe998, rbp = 0x7fffeb90 ---
 db call doadump
 Dumping 60 out of 495 MB:..27%..54%..80%
 Dump complete
 = 0
 db
 
 I've got the core file.

At least the source line for the panic is needed.
Also, print out the value of stat_flush_threads.
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Jenkins build is still unstable: FreeBSD_HEAD-tests2 #608

2015-01-28 Thread jenkins-admin
See https://jenkins.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD_HEAD-tests2/608/

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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:27:31PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
 On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 19:32 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
   Hi
   
   Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out there which
   have best support for FreeBSD?
   
   MEN
   Variscite
   Technologic system
   Adlink
   etc.
   
   What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
   ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
   2-4 cores
   1.5-2.0 GHz
   2 GB RAM
   ~16 GB Storage
   USB 3.0
   PCB size about one to two credit cards.
  
  In that range I would go for a Wandboard.
  They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM.
  The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet.
  They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one
  on a carrier board.
  Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB, although
  the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future modules.
  
  TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some
  x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at
  a higher price and bigger form factor.
  Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with
  different featuresets, but also at a higher price.
 
 You do get more for that higher price with the Technexion EDM modules,
 namely 1.2ghz chips instead of 1.0, and parts that are industrial and/or
 automotive temperature-rated rather than consumer grade.  On the other
 hand, you generally can't buy Technexion modules one at a time.  Last
 time I checked they were minimum order 10 pieces even from resellers
 like Mouser and Digikey.

Temperature rating - that can easily justify the higher price.

 Another small-board imx6 possibility is the Hummingboard from SolidRun.
 I now have freebsd running on a SolidRun Cubox-i4, so I expect no large
 drama in getting it working on other SolidRun imx6 products.  Gonzo
 ordered a Hummingboard recently, so we should know for sure some time
 soon.

To my knowledge they come in 3 different sizes.
I own the biggest two versions of them.
Completely forgot that the Hummingboard uses modules as well and the
modules are even very small.

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Re: OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc completeness improvement, try 2

2015-01-28 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Dmitry Marakasov (amd...@amdmi3.ru) wrote:

The patch is complete, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/D1600.

- With it, for all knobs from src.conf(5) there are no difference in
  file tree contents between `KNOB make installworld` and `make
  installworld  KNOB make delete-old delete-old-libs`
- Note that some OLD_DIRS were removed - they were incorrect as most
  directories are installed unconditionally by mtree. Since empty
  directores are not really needed, the install process should be
  probably improved
- Some knobs which delete massive number of files (WITHOUT_MAN,
  WITHOUT_INCLUDES) were implemented with

  FILES!=find ...
  OLD_FILES+=${FILES}

  (similar construct was already used in WITHOUT_TESTS)

  I though of more effective implementation for this, such as
  introducing OLD_DIRS_RECURSIVE to fill from OptionalObsoleteFiles,
  in which delete-old will just call `find ... -delete`

- Unneeded conditions such as

  .if ${TARGET_ARCH} == amd64 || ${TARGET_ARCH} == powerpc64
  OLD_FILES+=usr/lib32/...
  .else

  were not removed yet. Maybe with the next patch.

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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
Thanks a lot guys.

I can specify a bit more details.
We don't need any sd-card, sata or external storage. Just the internal eMMC
is enough.
Display output can be DSI, LVDS or something that can easily be serialized
to transfer over 2 wires.
If WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0 is on the board that'll also be great.
And of course, it would be helpful if the said board also is available as
development kit...

If the first tests are ok (tests can be done using Linux if FreeBSD doesn't
run out of the box) we're looking to buy a larger amount, at least 1000 to
start with.

We are flexible about prize and size of the board.

Atom is preferable over imx6, but I'll check out what you recommended.
Thanks again!

Ps. Hopefully we can also provide development boards for anyone who wants
to help with porting out of own interest.

--
Johannes Lundberg

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Bernd Walter ti...@cicely7.cicely.de
wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:27:31PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
  On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 19:32 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
Hi
   
Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out there
 which
have best support for FreeBSD?
   
MEN
Variscite
Technologic system
Adlink
etc.
   
What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
2-4 cores
1.5-2.0 GHz
2 GB RAM
~16 GB Storage
USB 3.0
PCB size about one to two credit cards.
  
   In that range I would go for a Wandboard.
   They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM.
   The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet.
   They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one
   on a carrier board.
   Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB,
 although
   the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future
 modules.
  
   TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some
   x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at
   a higher price and bigger form factor.
   Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with
   different featuresets, but also at a higher price.
 
  You do get more for that higher price with the Technexion EDM modules,
  namely 1.2ghz chips instead of 1.0, and parts that are industrial and/or
  automotive temperature-rated rather than consumer grade.  On the other
  hand, you generally can't buy Technexion modules one at a time.  Last
  time I checked they were minimum order 10 pieces even from resellers
  like Mouser and Digikey.

 Temperature rating - that can easily justify the higher price.

  Another small-board imx6 possibility is the Hummingboard from SolidRun.
  I now have freebsd running on a SolidRun Cubox-i4, so I expect no large
  drama in getting it working on other SolidRun imx6 products.  Gonzo
  ordered a Hummingboard recently, so we should know for sure some time
  soon.

 To my knowledge they come in 3 different sizes.
 I own the biggest two versions of them.
 Completely forgot that the Hummingboard uses modules as well and the
 modules are even very small.

 --
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 Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.


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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
By the way, this is for an embedded mobile device so we are looking for
something more like

http://www.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/smarc/smarc-samx6i.html

instead of Wandboard which has all the connectors that we won't use.


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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Lundberg, Johannes 
johan...@brilliantservice.co.jp wrote:

 Thanks a lot guys.

 I can specify a bit more details.
 We don't need any sd-card, sata or external storage. Just the internal
 eMMC is enough.
 Display output can be DSI, LVDS or something that can easily be serialized
 to transfer over 2 wires.
 If WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0 is on the board that'll also be great.
 And of course, it would be helpful if the said board also is available as
 development kit...

 If the first tests are ok (tests can be done using Linux if FreeBSD
 doesn't run out of the box) we're looking to buy a larger amount, at least
 1000 to start with.

 We are flexible about prize and size of the board.

 Atom is preferable over imx6, but I'll check out what you recommended.
 Thanks again!

 Ps. Hopefully we can also provide development boards for anyone who wants
 to help with porting out of own interest.

 --
 Johannes Lundberg

 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Bernd Walter ti...@cicely7.cicely.de
 wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:27:31PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
  On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 19:32 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
Hi
   
Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out
 there which
have best support for FreeBSD?
   
MEN
Variscite
Technologic system
Adlink
etc.
   
What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
2-4 cores
1.5-2.0 GHz
2 GB RAM
~16 GB Storage
USB 3.0
PCB size about one to two credit cards.
  
   In that range I would go for a Wandboard.
   They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM.
   The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet.
   They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one
   on a carrier board.
   Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB,
 although
   the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future
 modules.
  
   TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some
   x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at
   a higher price and bigger form factor.
   Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with
   different featuresets, but also at a higher price.
 
  You do get more for that higher price with the Technexion EDM modules,
  namely 1.2ghz chips instead of 1.0, and parts that are industrial and/or
  automotive temperature-rated rather than consumer grade.  On the other
  hand, you generally can't buy Technexion modules one at a time.  Last
  time I checked they were minimum order 10 pieces even from resellers
  like Mouser and Digikey.

 Temperature rating - that can easily justify the higher price.

  Another small-board imx6 possibility is the Hummingboard from SolidRun.
  I now have freebsd running on a SolidRun Cubox-i4, so I expect no large
  drama in getting it working on other SolidRun imx6 products.  Gonzo
  ordered a Hummingboard recently, so we should know for sure some time
  soon.

 To my knowledge they come in 3 different sizes.
 I own the biggest two versions of them.
 Completely forgot that the Hummingboard uses modules as well and the
 modules are even very small.

 --
 B.Walter be...@bwct.de http://www.bwct.de
 Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.




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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Bernd Walter
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 08:28:58AM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
 By the way, this is for an embedded mobile device so we are looking for
 something more like
 
 http://www.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/smarc/smarc-samx6i.html
 
 instead of Wandboard which has all the connectors that we won't use.

Don't get confused with the wandboard module+carrier board, which is
the normal offer (and in small volumes often cheaper than the 10x
module pack).
The Wandboard module alone is extremly similar to the Kontron modules
in your link.
They don't have eMMC (maybe some of the TechNexion have), but they
do have a micro-SD on the module itself, plus SDIO on the module header.
eMMC can have a higher transport speed because it allows for 8bit instead
of 4bit and as soldered chip it has different issued than a socketed card,
but otherwise they are very similar in design.
The 2 and 4 core Wandboards have BT/WLAN on module, but it is done by SDIO,
for which FreeBSD (to my knowledge) has no support yet.

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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Ian Lepore
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 08:28 +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
 By the way, this is for an embedded mobile device so we are looking for
 something more like
 
 http://www.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/smarc/smarc-samx6i.html
 
 instead of Wandboard which has all the connectors that we won't use.

That's similar to the EDM module that wandboards use:

http://www.technexion.com/products/edm/edm-som/edm1-cf-imx6

You can buy the EDM modules directly from Technexion if you're willing
to buy quantity, or through resellers like Digikey.  The EDM modules
from technexion are compatible with the wandboard carrier boards, so you
can use a few cheap wandboards as devel and eval boards (or you can buy
the overpriced fairyboard carrier from technexion that has PCIe
connectors that wandboard lacks).

We're using these modules at $work, and that's basically the path I
took... I started with a wandboard and got freebsd running on it, and
once it got past the proof of concept stage (the minimum set of drivers
for the imx6 devices we need, and reasonable freebsd stability -- I had
a board running a stress test with 2 months of uptime) we designed our
own motherboards with EDM sockets on them.

-- Ian

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How to know the address ranges of kernel stacks, for user processes and kernel threads?

2015-01-28 Thread Yue Chen
How can we know the kernel stack ranges for user process and kernel threads
under FreeBSD x86_64?

It seems that each kernel stack has two pages (IA-32) to use. Does x86_64
still have two pages or more? And how can we find the address of these two
pages from a kernel module?
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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Ian Lepore
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 09:12 +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
 Ah now I see it has EDM connection. I didn't look carefully enough. All the
 images are with the expansion board attached..
 
 Spec-wise and portability-wise it seems like a good option but my hardware
 guy keeps warning me about Freescale that they often have hardware bugs and
 rather than fixing the bugs they pretend they are not there.. In other
 words, Freescale is good for software developers because of open
 documentation but not so for hardware manufactures. Any experiences with
 this?

The imx6 manuals include an errata list, so it would be good to check
that for anything specific that would matter to your projects.

For the devices we use in our products everything is good so far with
the hardware.  That's emmc, sdcard, ethernet, i2c, uarts, usb, and lots
of gpio (inputs and outputs).  The ethernet is gigabit but has a known
limitation of 40MB/s due to the bus it's connected to in the chip.  (But
hey, it's documented so it's not a problem, right? :)

You mentioned video, and we don't have that working on freebsd imx6 yet,
but there's not a ton of work to do.  There's a framebuffer driver for
imx5 and it has pretty much the same framebuffer hardware.  Getting
video output to a TTL LCD is probably just hours of work.  Getting it to
an LVDS LCD or HDMI probably needs days of work (entire drivers written,
potentially, I haven't looked into it).

Some audio support was recently committed, but I don't know much about
it yet.

-- Ian


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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
Ah now I see it has EDM connection. I didn't look carefully enough. All the
images are with the expansion board attached..

Spec-wise and portability-wise it seems like a good option but my hardware
guy keeps warning me about Freescale that they often have hardware bugs and
rather than fixing the bugs they pretend they are not there.. In other
words, Freescale is good for software developers because of open
documentation but not so for hardware manufactures. Any experiences with
this?

--
Johannes Lundberg
BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Ian Lepore i...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 08:28 +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
  By the way, this is for an embedded mobile device so we are looking for
  something more like
 
 
 http://www.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/smarc/smarc-samx6i.html
 
  instead of Wandboard which has all the connectors that we won't use.

 That's similar to the EDM module that wandboards use:

 http://www.technexion.com/products/edm/edm-som/edm1-cf-imx6

 You can buy the EDM modules directly from Technexion if you're willing
 to buy quantity, or through resellers like Digikey.  The EDM modules
 from technexion are compatible with the wandboard carrier boards, so you
 can use a few cheap wandboards as devel and eval boards (or you can buy
 the overpriced fairyboard carrier from technexion that has PCIe
 connectors that wandboard lacks).

 We're using these modules at $work, and that's basically the path I
 took... I started with a wandboard and got freebsd running on it, and
 once it got past the proof of concept stage (the minimum set of drivers
 for the imx6 devices we need, and reasonable freebsd stability -- I had
 a board running a stress test with 2 months of uptime) we designed our
 own motherboards with EDM sockets on them.

 -- Ian



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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
How about these Tegra3 boards?

https://www.toradex.com/computer-on-modules/apalis-arm-family/nvidia-tegra-3


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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Ian Lepore i...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 09:12 +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
  Ah now I see it has EDM connection. I didn't look carefully enough. All
 the
  images are with the expansion board attached..
 
  Spec-wise and portability-wise it seems like a good option but my
 hardware
  guy keeps warning me about Freescale that they often have hardware bugs
 and
  rather than fixing the bugs they pretend they are not there.. In other
  words, Freescale is good for software developers because of open
  documentation but not so for hardware manufactures. Any experiences with
  this?

 The imx6 manuals include an errata list, so it would be good to check
 that for anything specific that would matter to your projects.

 For the devices we use in our products everything is good so far with
 the hardware.  That's emmc, sdcard, ethernet, i2c, uarts, usb, and lots
 of gpio (inputs and outputs).  The ethernet is gigabit but has a known
 limitation of 40MB/s due to the bus it's connected to in the chip.  (But
 hey, it's documented so it's not a problem, right? :)

 You mentioned video, and we don't have that working on freebsd imx6 yet,
 but there's not a ton of work to do.  There's a framebuffer driver for
 imx5 and it has pretty much the same framebuffer hardware.  Getting
 video output to a TTL LCD is probably just hours of work.  Getting it to
 an LVDS LCD or HDMI probably needs days of work (entire drivers written,
 potentially, I haven't looked into it).

 Some audio support was recently committed, but I don't know much about
 it yet.

 -- Ian




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Re: Memory corruption in a master perl process after child exits - only under FreeBSD 10.0 amd64 (not in 10.1 or 9.*)

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Moll
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 03:53:25PM -0600, Mark Felder wrote:
 https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=122199
 
 Given the ability to reproduce this 100% it seems perfect for using git
 bisect command to figure out which commit between 10.0 and 10.1 solves
 this.

Sorry for coming late to this thread, but depending on the CPU it might
be worth a try if it's fixed on 10.0 with vm.pmap.pcid_enabled set to 0.

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Re: Memory corruption in a master perl process after child exits - only under FreeBSD 10.0 amd64 (not in 10.1 or 9.*)

2015-01-28 Thread Mark Felder


On Mon, Jan 26, 2015, at 13:32, Mark Martinec wrote:
 There is a problem report since July 2014 in a Perl bug tracker,
 which seems to affect only FreeBSD 10.0 amd64 (regardless of a
 version of Perl or usage of clang vs. gcc compiler):
 
https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=122199
 

Given the ability to reproduce this 100% it seems perfect for using git
bisect command to figure out which commit between 10.0 and 10.1 solves
this.
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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 05:36:00PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
 On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 09:12 +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
  Ah now I see it has EDM connection. I didn't look carefully enough. All the
  images are with the expansion board attached..
  
  Spec-wise and portability-wise it seems like a good option but my hardware
  guy keeps warning me about Freescale that they often have hardware bugs and
  rather than fixing the bugs they pretend they are not there.. In other
  words, Freescale is good for software developers because of open
  documentation but not so for hardware manufactures. Any experiences with
  this?
 
 The imx6 manuals include an errata list, so it would be good to check
 that for anything specific that would matter to your projects.

If you use a prebuild module then you don't get much in touch with
the freescale chip fropm the hardware side.
On the other hand, there are countless iMX6 boards out there with
schematics online.
My recently bought Novena even came with printed schematics and they
open sourced the HW design files as well.
I don't think there are hidden surprises on the hardware side.

 For the devices we use in our products everything is good so far with
 the hardware.  That's emmc, sdcard, ethernet, i2c, uarts, usb, and lots
 of gpio (inputs and outputs).  The ethernet is gigabit but has a known
 limitation of 40MB/s due to the bus it's connected to in the chip.  (But
 hey, it's documented so it's not a problem, right? :)
 
 You mentioned video, and we don't have that working on freebsd imx6 yet,
 but there's not a ton of work to do.  There's a framebuffer driver for
 imx5 and it has pretty much the same framebuffer hardware.  Getting
 video output to a TTL LCD is probably just hours of work.  Getting it to
 an LVDS LCD or HDMI probably needs days of work (entire drivers written,
 potentially, I haven't looked into it).

Sounds interesting for my Novena.
The one I already got are board only (with some FPGA breakout, ...).
They have HDMI though.
But I'm also awaiting for the one with case and LCD panel.
Not to forget that I have a fairy EDM carrier with LCD already.
That said I'v always wondered how much work is it to get the camera
interface running, since the Hummingboards can connect to the RPi
camera modules.

 Some audio support was recently committed, but I don't know much about
 it yet.
 
 -- Ian
 
 

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Re: panic in softdep_slowdown()

2015-01-28 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:48:42PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
K  Stopped at  softdep_slowdown+0x1d3: idivl   %ecx,%eax
K  db bt
K  Tracing pid 49 tid 100045 td 0xf800026ee000
K  softdep_slowdown() at softdep_slowdown+0x1d3/frame 0xfe001eb5f2b0
K  ffs_truncate() at ffs_truncate+0x1be/frame 0xfe001eb5f640
K  ufs_setattr() at ufs_setattr+0x4e5/frame 0xfe001eb5f6a0
K  VOP_SETATTR_APV() at VOP_SETATTR_APV+0x22a/frame 0xfe001eb5f710
K  VOP_SETATTR() at VOP_SETATTR+0x45/frame 0xfe001eb5f760
K  vn_truncate() at vn_truncate+0x196/frame 0xfe001eb5f870
K  fo_truncate() at fo_truncate+0x41/frame 0xfe001eb5f8b0
K  kern_ftruncate() at kern_ftruncate+0x16d/frame 0xfe001eb5f920
K  sys_ftruncate() at sys_ftruncate+0x27/frame 0xfe001eb5f940
K  syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x46e/frame 0xfe001eb5f9b0
K  amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x1f/frame 0xfe001eb5fab0
K  Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xfb/frame 0xfe001eb5fab0
K  --- syscall (480, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_ftruncate), rip = 0x800b511fa, rsp = 
0x7fffe998, rbp = 0x7fffeb90 ---
K  db call doadump
K  Dumping 60 out of 495 MB:..27%..54%..80%
K  Dump complete
K  = 0
K  db
K  
K  I've got the core file.
K 
K At least the source line for the panic is needed.
K Also, print out the value of stat_flush_threads.

(kgdb) fr 11
#11 0x80895d63 in softdep_slowdown (vp=0xf800028011d8)
at /usr/src/ifnet/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:13055
13055   if (dep_current[D_DIRREM]  max_softdeps_hard / 2 
(kgdb) p dep_current
$1 = {1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 
  0, 0, 0, 0}
(kgdb) p max_softdeps_hard
$2 = 153357
(kgdb) p *ump
$4 = {um_mountp = 0xf80002707330, um_dev = 0xf800026cbc00, 
  um_cp = 0xf80002717480, um_bo = 0xf8000271edb8, 
  um_devvp = 0xf8000271ece8, um_fstype = 2, um_fs = 0xf8000273b000, 
  um_extattr = {uepm_lock = {lock_object = {lo_name = 0x0, lo_flags = 0, 
lo_data = 0, lo_witness = 0x0}, sx_lock = 0}, uepm_list = {
  lh_first = 0x0}, uepm_ucred = 0x0, uepm_flags = 0}, um_nindir = 4096, 
  um_bptrtodb = 3, um_seqinc = 8, um_lock = {lock_object = {
  lo_name = 0x80a53d30 FFS, lo_flags = 16973824, lo_data = 0, 
  lo_witness = 0xfe8e3400}, mtx_lock = 4}, um_fsckpid = 0, 
  um_softdep = 0xf800027a0200, um_quotas = {0x0, 0x0}, um_cred = {0x0, 
0x0}, um_btime = {0, 0}, um_itime = {0, 0}, um_qflags = \000, 
  um_savedmaxfilesize = 0, um_candelete = 0, um_writesuspended = 0, 
  um_balloc = 0x8086eb90 ffs_balloc_ufs2, 
  um_blkatoff = 0x808a8170 ffs_blkatoff, 
  um_truncate = 0x808717b0 ffs_truncate, 
  um_update = 0x80871090 ffs_update, 
  um_valloc = 0x808660c0 ffs_valloc, 
  um_vfree = 0x808677b0 ffs_vfree, 
  um_ifree = 0x808af420 ffs_ifree, 
  um_rdonly = 0x808741c0 ffs_rdonly, 
  um_snapgone = 0x80879b70 ffs_snapgone}
(kgdb) p stat_flush_threads
$5 = 1

I can't see where integer divide fault can happen with stat_flush_threads=1 :(

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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
 Hi
 
 Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out there which
 have best support for FreeBSD?
 
 MEN
 Variscite
 Technologic system
 Adlink
 etc.
 
 What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
 ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
 2-4 cores
 1.5-2.0 GHz
 2 GB RAM
 ~16 GB Storage
 USB 3.0
 PCB size about one to two credit cards.

In that range I would go for a Wandboard.
They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM.
The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet.
They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one
on a carrier board.
Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB, although
the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future modules.

TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some
x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at
a higher price and bigger form factor.
Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with
different featuresets, but also at a higher price.

 I wish to minimize the amount of porting needed so I am very grateful if
 someone has good insights in this area. And of course, it would help a lot
 if it was a manufacturer who is willing to provide datasheets to make
 porting possible..

Freescale is producting the iMX6 and they supply a hughe PDF for them.
Also the wandboard schematics are public available.

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Re: panic in softdep_slowdown()

2015-01-28 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 09:04:42PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
K  I can't see where integer divide fault can happen with 
stat_flush_threads=1 :(
K 
K Look at the exact asm instruction which faulted, also look at the registers
K content.
K 
K It might be hypervisor bug, after all.

Yes, for me it looks like it. %edx should be one as well as -0x44(%rbp).

0x80895d43 softdep_slowdown+435:  mov-0x20(%rbp),%ecx
0x80895d46 softdep_slowdown+438:  mov%ecx,%edx
0x80895d48 softdep_slowdown+440:  shr$0x1f,%edx
0x80895d4b softdep_slowdown+443:  add%edx,%ecx
0x80895d4d softdep_slowdown+445:  sar%ecx
0x80895d4f softdep_slowdown+447:  mov0x80ee24c8,%edx
0x80895d56 softdep_slowdown+454:  mov%rax,-0x40(%rbp)
0x80895d5a softdep_slowdown+458:  mov%ecx,%eax
0x80895d5c softdep_slowdown+460:  mov%edx,-0x44(%rbp)
0x80895d5f softdep_slowdown+463:  cltd   
0x80895d60 softdep_slowdown+464:  mov-0x44(%rbp),%ecx
0x80895d63 softdep_slowdown+467:  idiv   %ecx

(kgdb) p stat_flush_threads
$5 = (int *) 0x80ee24c8
(kgdb) info registers
rax0x12b86  76678
rbx0x4  4
rcx0x0  0
rdx0x0  0
rsi0x3e81000
rdi0x99 153
rbp0xfe001eb5f2b0   0xfe001eb5f2b0
...
(kgdb) p *(int *)($rbp - 0x44)
$4 = 0
(kgdb) p *(int *)($rbp - 0x40)
$8 = 0
(kgdb) p max_softdeps_hard
$11 = (int *) 0xfe001eb5f290
(kgdb) p (int *)($rbp - 0x20)
$12 = (int *) 0xfe001eb5f290
(kgdb) p max_softdeps_hard
$10 = 153357

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Re: panic in softdep_slowdown()

2015-01-28 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 09:22:30PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:48:42PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
 K  Stopped at  softdep_slowdown+0x1d3: idivl   %ecx,%eax
 K  db bt
 K  Tracing pid 49 tid 100045 td 0xf800026ee000
 K  softdep_slowdown() at softdep_slowdown+0x1d3/frame 0xfe001eb5f2b0
 K  ffs_truncate() at ffs_truncate+0x1be/frame 0xfe001eb5f640
 K  ufs_setattr() at ufs_setattr+0x4e5/frame 0xfe001eb5f6a0
 K  VOP_SETATTR_APV() at VOP_SETATTR_APV+0x22a/frame 0xfe001eb5f710
 K  VOP_SETATTR() at VOP_SETATTR+0x45/frame 0xfe001eb5f760
 K  vn_truncate() at vn_truncate+0x196/frame 0xfe001eb5f870
 K  fo_truncate() at fo_truncate+0x41/frame 0xfe001eb5f8b0
 K  kern_ftruncate() at kern_ftruncate+0x16d/frame 0xfe001eb5f920
 K  sys_ftruncate() at sys_ftruncate+0x27/frame 0xfe001eb5f940
 K  syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x46e/frame 0xfe001eb5f9b0
 K  amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x1f/frame 0xfe001eb5fab0
 K  Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xfb/frame 0xfe001eb5fab0
 K  --- syscall (480, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_ftruncate), rip = 0x800b511fa, rsp 
 = 0x7fffe998, rbp = 0x7fffeb90 ---
 K  db call doadump
 K  Dumping 60 out of 495 MB:..27%..54%..80%
 K  Dump complete
 K  = 0
 K  db
 K  
 K  I've got the core file.
 K 
 K At least the source line for the panic is needed.
 K Also, print out the value of stat_flush_threads.
 
 (kgdb) fr 11
 #11 0x80895d63 in softdep_slowdown (vp=0xf800028011d8)
 at /usr/src/ifnet/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:13055
 13055   if (dep_current[D_DIRREM]  max_softdeps_hard / 2 
 (kgdb) p dep_current
 $1 = {1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 
   0, 0, 0, 0}
 (kgdb) p max_softdeps_hard
 $2 = 153357
 (kgdb) p *ump
 $4 = {um_mountp = 0xf80002707330, um_dev = 0xf800026cbc00, 
   um_cp = 0xf80002717480, um_bo = 0xf8000271edb8, 
   um_devvp = 0xf8000271ece8, um_fstype = 2, um_fs = 0xf8000273b000, 
   um_extattr = {uepm_lock = {lock_object = {lo_name = 0x0, lo_flags = 0, 
 lo_data = 0, lo_witness = 0x0}, sx_lock = 0}, uepm_list = {
   lh_first = 0x0}, uepm_ucred = 0x0, uepm_flags = 0}, um_nindir = 4096, 
   um_bptrtodb = 3, um_seqinc = 8, um_lock = {lock_object = {
   lo_name = 0x80a53d30 FFS, lo_flags = 16973824, lo_data = 0, 
   lo_witness = 0xfe8e3400}, mtx_lock = 4}, um_fsckpid = 0, 
   um_softdep = 0xf800027a0200, um_quotas = {0x0, 0x0}, um_cred = {0x0, 
 0x0}, um_btime = {0, 0}, um_itime = {0, 0}, um_qflags = \000, 
   um_savedmaxfilesize = 0, um_candelete = 0, um_writesuspended = 0, 
   um_balloc = 0x8086eb90 ffs_balloc_ufs2, 
   um_blkatoff = 0x808a8170 ffs_blkatoff, 
   um_truncate = 0x808717b0 ffs_truncate, 
   um_update = 0x80871090 ffs_update, 
   um_valloc = 0x808660c0 ffs_valloc, 
   um_vfree = 0x808677b0 ffs_vfree, 
   um_ifree = 0x808af420 ffs_ifree, 
   um_rdonly = 0x808741c0 ffs_rdonly, 
   um_snapgone = 0x80879b70 ffs_snapgone}
 (kgdb) p stat_flush_threads
 $5 = 1
 
 I can't see where integer divide fault can happen with stat_flush_threads=1 :(

Look at the exact asm instruction which faulted, also look at the registers
content.

It might be hypervisor bug, after all.
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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Lundberg, Johannes 
johan...@brilliantservice.co.jp wrote:

 Hi

 Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out there which
 have best support for FreeBSD?

 MEN
 Variscite
 Technologic system
 Adlink
 etc.

 What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
 ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
 2-4 cores
 1.5-2.0 GHz
 2 GB RAM
 ~16 GB Storage
 USB 3.0
 PCB size about one to two credit cards.

 I wish to minimize the amount of porting needed so I am very grateful if
 someone has good insights in this area. And of course, it would help a lot
 if it was a manufacturer who is willing to provide datasheets to make
 porting possible..

 Thanks!
 --
 Johannes Lundberg

 Something like
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/specifications/fitlet-models-specifications/
perhaps?

Though I don't think it is available yet, so I don't know if it is
supported in FreeBSD.

Best regards
Andreas
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Re: System-On-Module

2015-01-28 Thread Ian Lepore
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 19:32 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
  Hi
  
  Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out there which
  have best support for FreeBSD?
  
  MEN
  Variscite
  Technologic system
  Adlink
  etc.
  
  What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs
  ARM or x86, 64bit if possible.
  2-4 cores
  1.5-2.0 GHz
  2 GB RAM
  ~16 GB Storage
  USB 3.0
  PCB size about one to two credit cards.
 
 In that range I would go for a Wandboard.
 They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM.
 The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet.
 They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one
 on a carrier board.
 Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB, although
 the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future modules.
 
 TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some
 x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at
 a higher price and bigger form factor.
 Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with
 different featuresets, but also at a higher price.

You do get more for that higher price with the Technexion EDM modules,
namely 1.2ghz chips instead of 1.0, and parts that are industrial and/or
automotive temperature-rated rather than consumer grade.  On the other
hand, you generally can't buy Technexion modules one at a time.  Last
time I checked they were minimum order 10 pieces even from resellers
like Mouser and Digikey.

Another small-board imx6 possibility is the Hummingboard from SolidRun.
I now have freebsd running on a SolidRun Cubox-i4, so I expect no large
drama in getting it working on other SolidRun imx6 products.  Gonzo
ordered a Hummingboard recently, so we should know for sure some time
soon.

-- Ian


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Re: panic in softdep_slowdown()

2015-01-28 Thread Neel Natu
Hi Gleb,

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Gleb Smirnoff gleb...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 09:04:42PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
 K  I can't see where integer divide fault can happen with 
 stat_flush_threads=1 :(
 K
 K Look at the exact asm instruction which faulted, also look at the registers
 K content.
 K
 K It might be hypervisor bug, after all.

 Yes, for me it looks like it. %edx should be one as well as -0x44(%rbp).

 0x80895d43 softdep_slowdown+435:  mov-0x20(%rbp),%ecx
 0x80895d46 softdep_slowdown+438:  mov%ecx,%edx
 0x80895d48 softdep_slowdown+440:  shr$0x1f,%edx
 0x80895d4b softdep_slowdown+443:  add%edx,%ecx
 0x80895d4d softdep_slowdown+445:  sar%ecx
 0x80895d4f softdep_slowdown+447:  mov0x80ee24c8,%edx
 0x80895d56 softdep_slowdown+454:  mov%rax,-0x40(%rbp)
 0x80895d5a softdep_slowdown+458:  mov%ecx,%eax
 0x80895d5c softdep_slowdown+460:  mov%edx,-0x44(%rbp)
 0x80895d5f softdep_slowdown+463:  cltd
 0x80895d60 softdep_slowdown+464:  mov-0x44(%rbp),%ecx
 0x80895d63 softdep_slowdown+467:  idiv   %ecx

 (kgdb) p stat_flush_threads
 $5 = (int *) 0x80ee24c8
 (kgdb) info registers
 rax0x12b86  76678
 rbx0x4  4
 rcx0x0  0
 rdx0x0  0
 rsi0x3e81000
 rdi0x99 153
 rbp0xfe001eb5f2b0   0xfe001eb5f2b0
 ...
 (kgdb) p *(int *)($rbp - 0x44)
 $4 = 0
 (kgdb) p *(int *)($rbp - 0x40)
 $8 = 0
 (kgdb) p max_softdeps_hard
 $11 = (int *) 0xfe001eb5f290
 (kgdb) p (int *)($rbp - 0x20)
 $12 = (int *) 0xfe001eb5f290
 (kgdb) p max_softdeps_hard
 $10 = 153357


Can you upload the core file and the kernel someplace that I can access?

best
Neel

 --
 Totus tuus, Glebius.
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