Re: How to fix this in 5.1-REL??

2003-11-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/11/24 15:39), Kevin Oberman wrote: I end up with the following when I run `make world` on 5.1-RELEASE-p10. Did you read UPDATING? I fear a bikeshed, but I really think it may be past time to remove the 'world' target from /usr/src/Makefile.inc1. It is rarely useful and

Re: Unattended reboot was Re: signal 12's everywhere on Currentwith update this morning.

2003-11-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/11/13 14:02), Eric Anderson wrote: I'm not having any luck - I'm started to feel like I'm missing something here :) I cvsup'd yesterday afternoon, and did my usual make buildworld, kernel, install kernel, single user mode, then make installworld - except it bombed on the

Re: ALTQ support

2003-11-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/11/10 11:35), Alexander Leidinger wrote: Is there any plan to make it into the kernel ? AFAIK the author of ALTQ said we shouldn't import it. Search the mailing lists @FreeBSD.org for the reason. If anyone finds that message in the archives, please post a URL. I can't find it in

Re: More ULE bugs fixed.

2003-11-05 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/11/04 15:46), Jeff Roberson wrote: The thing is, I'm using 4BSD, not ULE, so I wouldn't trouble Jeff to look for a cause for that specific problem in ULE. How long have you been seeing this? Are you using a usb mouse? Can you try with PS/2 if you are? Since my last update, Fri

Re: More ULE bugs fixed.

2003-11-04 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/11/04 09:29), Eirik Oeverby wrote: The problem is two parts: The mouse tends to 'lock up' for brief moments when the system is under load, in particular during heavy UI operations or when doing compile jobs and such. The second part of the problem is related, and is manifested by the

Re: HEADSUP: if_xname changes incoming

2003-11-04 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/11/03 13:38), Brooks Davis wrote: I've sent mail to both his FreeBSD address and the one on the IPFilter homepage. If anyone knows a reliable way to communicate with him, that would be useful. The latter address works, but he's terrible with email, by his own admission. If you

Re: Sched_Ule

2003-10-09 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/10/09 00:28), Scott Sipe wrote: Anything that seems disk intensive: bzip2 (unbzip2ing one big file makes this happen), making world, building ports, etc makes my X environment practically unusable. Mouse stutters, reaction times is very slow, feels 10x more sluggish than normal.

Re: Sched_Ule

2003-10-09 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/10/09 16:57), Jeff Roberson wrote: For me, the sluggish mouse problem manifests under these conditions: 1) Use a USB mouse, not a PS2 mouse. Is this _only_ with usb? For me, yes. -CURRENT gets a little sluggish with either scheduler, but the noticible difference between

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-24 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/09/23 19:35), Daniel Eischen wrote: The applications is free to link to whatever it wants; we're not changing that. If it wants to link to 1:1 libthr or whatever, then it had better be sure to use -lthr because -pthread won't do it regardless of whether it is a NOOP or not. Okay,

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-24 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/09/24 20:18), John Birrell wrote: Okay, so what are we supposed to do to ports that are now broken because -pthread doesn't exist (e.g. devel/pwlib)? -pthread is back in current. It just had a little holiday. It's back, refreshed, eager and willing to do the deed. 8-) That's

Re: Text file busy

2003-09-04 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/09/04 14:44), Paul Richards wrote: Overwriting a file that's currently executing results in a Text file busy error. When did this start happening? This was something that was fixed way back on FreeBSD but it seems to be a problem again. Really? I've never seen it fixed. I've

Re: /lib symlinks problem?

2003-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/09/02 09:43), Ian Freislich wrote: I posted one approach to this today... touch a file right before you start installworld, then consider anything not newer than that file a candidate for disposal. There is currently something weird going on in /usr/lib though... a lot of the

Re: buildworld failure

2003-08-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/08/29 11:30), Mike Jakubik wrote: Why should I have to turn off all my optimization options when building world? Because it's not working? Mind you, it's only -O2 that you're recommended to turn off; -O works fine. This shouldn't be like that. 4.x always compiled fine with -O2 and

Re: buildworld failure

2003-08-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/08/29 11:41), Mike Jakubik wrote: Yes, I can see that its not working. But this is a solution to the cause, not the problem. Shouldn't this be fixed? Depends on how much work is involved in fixing it, and what the negative impact is of leaving it. Do you know what the impact is?

Re: buildworld failure

2003-08-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/08/29 11:48), Robert Watson wrote: The differences here seem to be: (1) I'm using -O, not -O2 (2) I'm optimizing -mcpu as pentiumpro, not pentium4 Isn't pentium4 a known-broken optimization at the moment? Ciao, Sheldon. ___ [EMAIL

Re: Does linux-sun-jdk_1.4.2 work?

2003-07-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/07/21 23:41), Adam wrote: Perhaps you should try working with Java 1.4.x on FreeBSD before you assume something about me that's highly inaccurate. I think you'll find very quickly that it doesn't work nicely unless the process is running as root. So that this doesn't stick in

libmap.conf kudos

2003-07-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi Matthew, Dude, your libmap.conf work ROCKS! Finally, a painless way to play around with the impact of various threading implementations on Java without tearing any hair out over symlinks and such. Thanks! Sheldon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: ``Resource temporarily unavailable'' in vi

2003-07-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/07/15 13:35), Byron Schlemmer wrote: Being the curious person that I am, I tried the following from the truss manpage : % truss /bin/echo hello truss: cannot open /proc/1805/mem: No such file or directory truss: cannot open /proc/curproc/mem: No such file or directory Is this

Re: APM problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-06-19 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/06/19 20:06), Tobias Roth wrote: you compare a stable linux kernel branch with an unstable freebsd branch. please make yourself familiar with freebsds (and possibly linux') release process before you make statements like this. you will only piss off the people that are trying to help

Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse

2003-06-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/06/01 23:53), Narvi wrote: The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions of the past shaped the future. credible rather sounds like 'comes on the installation cd, doesn't have

Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse

2003-06-01 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/06/01 00:50), Daniel Eischen wrote: I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You guys must have rotten karma or something. Did you already have a native JDK installed? I built the native 1.4.1 JDK two weeks ago, first without the native JDK for

Re: ULE nice behavior fixed.

2003-04-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/04/02 01:54), Jeff Roberson wrote: It probably still needs some tweaking but it seems to be MUCH better now. New algorithm entirely. nice +20 processes will not run if anything else wants to. Some of us have been waiting for that behaviour for a long time (long before you started

Re: ULE nice behavior fixed.

2003-04-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/04/02 21:48), Bruce Evans wrote: Some of us have been waiting for that behaviour for a long time (long before you started working on ULE). Er, this is the normal behaviour in FreeBSD-3.0 through FreeBSD-4.8, so you shouldn't have waited more than negative 4 years for it :-). The

Re: libthr and 1:1 threading.

2003-04-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/04/02 06:05), Terry Lambert wrote: I think Jeff (or someone else?) said, that some web browsers gain something too (serialization issues with libc_r)? I had the impression that this also applies to UP systems. Do I misremember this? If not, does it not apply to UP systems as

Re: breakage this morning

2003-04-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/04/02 09:20), Michael W . Lucas wrote: While I'm all for a sense of humor, and agree that implementation of the IP_EVIL flag is vital for FreeBSD to be a modern operating system, it stops being funny when it breaks world. You sure you didn't get caught in the middle of a cvsup mirror

Re: breakage this morning

2003-04-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/04/02 09:43), Michael W . Lucas wrote: You sure you didn't get caught in the middle of a cvsup mirror sync? I have an IP_EVIL world and kernel running fine here. According to some folks on IRC, it was renamed to IP_EF in src/sys/netinet/ip.h, but not renamed in ping.c. I just

Re: libthr and 1:1 threading.

2003-04-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/04/02 07:38), Terry Lambert wrote: Is the disk I/O really that big of an issue? All writes will be on underlying non-blocking descriptors; I guess you are saying that the interleaved I/O is more important, further down the system call interface than the top, and this becomes an

Re: Debugger(panic) on reboot

2003-03-19 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/03/19 20:43), Andrew Mace wrote: Thanks for Your reply. Your right, I'm in the wrong league here :-). I had 5.0 RELEASE installed before, but the jdk1.4 port wouldn't compile and there is no binary package. But now that I have it compiled and packaged can I just install it on 5.0

Re: PLEASE TEST - ATA driver patch (ATANG)...

2003-02-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/02/13 14:00), Soeren Schmidt wrote: I've prepared a patch that brings the ATA driver to the next level. You've brought ata in under cam? ;-) *duck* Sorry, couldn't resist. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of

Seat-belt for source upgrades from stable to current

2003-01-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, Can anyone think of a good way to implement an installworld / installkernel seat-belt for source upgrades from stable to current? What I'm looking for is a way for installworld and installkernel in the current source to look for some signature in the target filesystem that suggests

Re: OpenOffice swriter working on -CURRENT

2003-01-20 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/01/20 11:04), Martin Blapp wrote: http://people.freebsd.org/~mbr/ports/openoffice-port-1.02.tgz There is one bug (crash) which I'd like to have fixed before I update the port. And OpenOffice.org needs to announce OpenOffice.org version 1.02 officially. Maybe you don't have

OpenOffice swriter working on -CURRENT

2003-01-19 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, Could someone with an up-to-date -CURRENT (as of anything since Wednesday last week) and OpenOffice let me know whether OpenOffice's swriter works? For me, works just implies that it starts up on a blank document before core dumping, and then accepts at least one character of input.

Re: FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now available

2003-01-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2003/01/14 10:22), local.freebsd.current wrote: In the meantime we _really_ have to ship 5.0-RELEASE, we keep slipping it. That sounds like it's time to ship so we're going to ship. I'm not trying to get up anyone's nose here, but aren't there objective release criteria? Yes. One

Re: world broken at libkvm

2003-01-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Make sure you have rev 1.289 of sys/sys/proc.h, which is expected to fix the problem you're reporting. Ciao, Sheldon. - Original Message - Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:14:51 -0800 From: walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: world broken at libkvm cc -O -pipe

Re: The great perl script rewrite - progress report

2002-12-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/12/01 19:36), Kris Kennaway wrote: /usr/bin/mmroff /usr/bin/afmtodit /usr/sbin/adduser /usr/sbin/rmuser These must be converted before 5.0-R. Unless we make installation of the perl package happen automatically as part of sysinstall. I spent an hour looking at

Re: cbb0: unsupported card type and reboot

2002-11-20 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/20 11:00), Chris Howells wrote: I'd love to... sadly I do not know how to. I've only been messing around with FreeBSD for around a week (though I'm experienced with Linux, but getting bored of it) and am trying 5.0 because 4.7 locks up when I try to access my PC Card (maybe

Re: /dev/acd*t* no longer available in -current?

2002-11-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/14 19:27), Soeren Schmidt wrote: - insecure permissions. Among other holes, these allowed the world to erase cd-rw's. Use rc.devfs for that as it was intended. Don't you think it makes more sense for the kernel to start off with more restrictive permissions, and have the

Re: /dev/acd*t* no longer available in -current?

2002-11-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/15 09:48), Soeren Schmidt wrote: Don't you think it makes more sense for the kernel to start off with more restrictive permissions, and have the administrator determine whether more restrictive permissions are appropriate? Actually no I dont. The security aware admin will

Re: /dev/acd*t* no longer available in -current?

2002-11-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/15 14:45), Vallo Kallaste wrote: Yes. For what it's worth, I think that system should be airtight out of the box and the consequences for average desktop user (as I am) clearly documented in handbook. Users who will not read the fine documentation fully deserve the pain. Well, in

Re: sleep(1) behavior

2002-11-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/12 16:37), Nate Lawson wrote: I've found an interesting contradiction and was wondering what behavior sleep should have. It checks for a command line flag with getopt(3) and exits with usage() if it finds one. However, it then checks for a '-' or '+' sign. If negative, it

Re: sleep(1) behavior

2002-11-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/13 15:06), Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: I think it's pretty clear that negative time arguments to sleep(1) are not portable. I have, somewhere in my big bag of tricks, an unfinished patch which would allow us to implement negative sleep times by directing the PSU to emit

Re: Samba on -current

2002-11-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/12 08:55), Jason Vervlied wrote: I am having problems with a Samba share on my -current box, I just installed from 20021103-SNAP. I did recompile my kernel with the following options. I'll bet your problem as nothing to do with Samba. What you have is a problem with smbfs. Here

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/12 22:17), Doug Barton wrote: In case another vote is needed, I've always been opposed to the wrapper. tobez and I put some work into getting the use.perl script in the port to DTRT shortly after the demise of base perl, and I'm still willing to help fine tune it if needed. I

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-09 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/08 18:13), Daniel Eischen wrote: The problem is that you cannot have 4.x packages and 5.x packages co-mingled on the same system. that's what I'm trying to fix. You'd have to rebuild the 4.x packages before they are fixed. I don't think this is a show-stopper. Just

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/29 13:06), Matthew Dillon wrote: :Most of the speed difference is WITNESS, INVARIANTS, and other :debugging code that's turned on by default in the config files :for -current. You can turn most of it off. That said, -current :is slower than -stable in a number of places, so

Re: smbfs broken?

2002-10-24 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/23 11:31), Terry Lambert wrote: AHA! The reason an FFS write resulted in an SMBFS read is that you had mmap()'ed an SMBFS file, and then wrote a mapped but-not-in-core page to the target FFS file. Well, a similar problem occurred with cat(1), which doesn't use mmap(). However,

Re: smbfs broken?

2002-10-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/23 18:21), Vitaly Markitantov wrote: Umm, guys. The code was dereferencing NULL pointers in the mbchain code which was fixed yesterday. Please test it out with the fixed mbchains code. Yes, it not panics now, but again, when i copy to/from smbfs share i get: cp

Re: smbfs broken?

2002-10-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/23 18:00), Sheldon Hearn wrote: Confirmed with rev 1.9 of subr_mchain.c. However, I notice that this only happens with files of 8145 bytes size or larger. [server] # for i in `jot 512 7680`; do dd if=/dev/zero of=$i bs=$i count=1 done 2/dev/null [client] $ for i

Re: Linux and FreeBSD compared

2002-10-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/23 16:16), Nigel Weeks wrote: I recently heard a comparison between Linux and FreeBSD that I found amusing. Use freebsd-chat next time, please. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: smbfs broken?

2002-10-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/22 10:48), John Baldwin wrote: This is the one I'm seeing everytime while trying to copy file from ro smbfs mount. -current is about four days old, smbfs.ko _is_ compiled with -DSMP and in sync with kernel. Can you compile smbfs into your kernel 'options SMBFS' instead of as

Re: kthread.9 out of date

2002-10-18 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/18 19:38), Benno Rice wrote: I have just discovered the hard way that the kthread.9 manual page is slightly out of date. Having never done man page work before, I've attached a diff of the proposed change and if someone could give this a once-over and fix and/or commit it,

Re: unbreaking buildkernel?

2002-10-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/15 11:48), Nate Lawson wrote: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils; make cleandir; make depend; make all install Isn't this a bad idea? First, you may not remove stale object files from the src tree, and second, you may leave stale .depend files in the src tree, which will cause you

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/09 22:03), Terry Lambert wrote: The other problem with an mtree.obsolete is that it assumes the the upgrade process completes successfully. This doesn't mean that it completes without an error in the upgrade process, it means that the resulting system functions. Why not just

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/10 06:55), James Howard wrote: If you want to maintain it, I'd be delighted! Are you a committer? I could use a new hobby, but I am not a committer. Have you given up on your grep implementation? :-) Quite a few folks were really looking forward to it. Ciao, Sheldon. To

Re: Ready to connect libbsdxml (nee libexpat) to the build !

2002-10-04 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/04 13:26), Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: What was the concensus on the xmlwf program, did we want it in the tree or not ? Would it be useful to anybody or is it just a hackers-proof-of-concept thing ? I think it needs to stay out of the base system, so that 3rd party applications

Re: HEADSUP! GEOM as default in 5 days...

2002-10-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/02 16:27), Bruce Evans wrote: It is a devfs issue that devfs moves things into the kernel where they harder to control and more fatal if they are got wrong. If it's just ownerships and permissions you're worried about, I think the issue could be made moot by some /etc support for

Re: expat2 in the base system?

2002-10-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/02 13:57), Marc Recht wrote: IMO 1. would be better with a complete expat. So the ports could use the system version and probably/maybe the drift between the official- and system-version will not be that big. And compared to Perl expat it rather small. So the bloat couldn't be

Re: HEADSUP! GEOM as default in 5 days...

2002-10-01 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/09/30 21:09), Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Provided nothing terminal pops up in the next 5 days, GEOM will become default in -current on Saturday 5th of october. Please test it now on _your_ configuration and tell me if it fails to work. There are problems in -CURRENT that have held

Re: installworld broken

2002-09-03 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/09/02 12:44), Steve Kargl wrote: : I've had to add ex, touch and gencat to the installworld target. And : I've still not manged to complete a installworld. : : anybody else see this? Strange, I just did a make buildworld ... mergermaster sequence and I did not need the

Re: hw.pci.enable_io_modes default value.

2002-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/09/01 19:12), Marc Fonvieille wrote: I had freeze at boot problem with my laptop and -CURRENT: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42262 I found the solution: setting hw.pci.enable_io_modes to 0. So I have a question: that sysctl has to be =1 by default? I mean if I have

CURRENT's termcap broken

2002-08-28 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi Jens, I just updated to the latest -current and my TERM=xterm-color applications (mutt and centericq) are broken. Mutt shows this when I start vi as my editor or run fetchmail: TERMCAP, line 0, terminal 'xterm-color': enter_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars My centericq window ends up

Re: CURRENT's termcap broken

2002-08-28 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/08/28 20:32), Jens Schweikhardt wrote: # Yes, use plain TERM=xterm. It's got color now as it should. I'm # thinking of removing xterm-color if I can't resolve the # enter_alt_charset_mode stuff. Let me know if TERM=xterm does not # work as expected in mutt et al. I'll post a

Re: rcNG and dhcp

2002-08-19 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On 12 Aug 2002 12:40:20 +0400, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: There is patch to teach rcNG do not try dhcp on not-connected ethernet. simply put ifconfig_fxp0=dhcp-if-carrier into rc.conf It will be interested to somebody For what it's worth, I think this rocks. Theoretically

Re: firewall support?

2002-07-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/28 09:49), Szilveszter Adam wrote: is firewall support built into the -current kernel or does it need to be compiled in? It is not in GENERIC, but you can always either compile it in, or load it from a module by editing /boot/loader.conf. Beware! AFAIK, the kernel-loadable

Re: Problem compiling -current on 4.6-RELEASE

2002-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/25 11:45), Martin Bundgaard wrote: I have a problem. When trying to do a 'make buildworld' on a (freshly fetched) -current source-tree, I quickly get an error: Other people have pointed out the cause of the problem. However, please note for future reference that what you're doing

Re: Is it just me or has -current suddenly got massively unstable?

2002-07-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/22 18:48), Szilveszter Adam wrote: I have a kernel and world from Saturday, it seems reasonably ok in console mode (does not panic although it is used as an ADSL router) but in X, it locks up very easily. I tried it with Mozilla on Sunday, it froze twice within as many hours,

Re: Is it just me or has -current suddenly got massively unstable?

2002-07-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/23 12:08), Yann Berthier wrote: Thanks a lot, patch applied, and all is going fine. Peter: I knew you would come up with a solution :) (well, feel free to call it bandaid, but it solves the problem BTW) To quote Terry Lambert on what he calls Occam's Corollary:

Re: Still no XFree86-4

2002-07-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/21 21:08), Eric Anholt wrote: You don't have XFree86-4 uninstalled, or don't have it uninstalled successfully. Just removing the XFree86-4 metaport doesn't remove the miniports that contain the actual files. If you are going to build without using portupgrade, you should start

Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure

2002-07-17 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/17 06:49), Rob Hughes wrote: === sbin/newfs /usr/home/des/tinderbox/sparc64/src/sbin/newfs/mkfs.c: In function `fsinit': /usr/home/des/tinderbox/sparc64/src/sbin/newfs/mkfs.c:711: structure has no member named `di_createtime' *** Error code 1 Stop in

Re: DEVFS rule subsystem (was: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile src/sbin/devfs Makefile devfs.8 devfs.c extern.h rule.c src/sys/conf files src/sys/fs/devfs devfs.h devfs_devs.c devfs_rule.c devfs_vfsops.c devfs_vnops.c )

2002-07-17 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/17 01:52), Dima Dorfman wrote: The devfs(8) manual page is a pretty good reference of the existing features and semantics, but it lacks polish needed to be able to serve as an introduction. Actually, I think it's brilliant. The only nits are the weird sections, which made it

Re: gcc-3.1 Mozilla Build Fails

2002-07-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/10 19:15), Dirk Engling wrote: Maybe this would be more interesting to the mozilla guys but mozilla compiles on 2.95.3, so I think, the problem is related to gcc-3.1 As far as I know, ports/lang/gcc31 is still required to build mozilla. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: Status of C++ in base system?

2002-07-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/11 11:01), Benjamin Close wrote: I'm using current from just after the KSE libc_r fix. However it appears that XFree86-client c++ stuff is still broken. Is there a planned time when this will be fixed or am I missing something else? (XFree-libraries compiled and installed

Re: Remember my ill-fated i386 smp pmap optimizations?

2002-07-09 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/08 13:52), Peter Wemm wrote: I have found some of them. And what is really scary is that I have verified that some of what Terry has been FUD'ing(*) about for our TLB (mis)management is actually correct. :-( Ha! Justice! troll All those who slapped me around on IRC for

Re: Removing perl in make world

2002-07-06 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/05 17:24), Sheldon Hearn wrote: You and Paul are both pretty out there if you think -current users will graciously accept a new world order in which ports linked dymanically against system libraries won't work between a system upgrade and the next port reinstall. Sorry about

Re: Removing perl in make world

2002-07-05 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/05 05:22), Terry Lambert wrote: This would not fit in with the rest of the world target, which doesn't clean out stale headers, stale libraries or stale binaries. Special-casing certain things will surprise people. Headers and libraries arguably should be removed, so as to

Re: gcc 3.1 can't compile XFree86-4-Server

2002-07-03 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/03 13:29), Garance A Drosihn wrote: With his patches I was able to compile and install imake. I was able to compile XFree86-4-libraries, but the 'make install' of it fails for me after getting most of the way through. I suspect this is a build problem, not a cc problem. Yes,

Re: Core Dumps et al on -current

2002-07-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/07/02 14:13), Sid Carter wrote: Anything obvious I missed ? Yes. You haven't been reading your mail. :-) There's known instability at present, that is believed to relate to changes made to libc_r in the last month, or to the recent KSE update and its impact on libc_r. Ciao,

Re: What's the right way to build XFree86-4 now?

2002-07-01 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/30 00:46), Jeremy Lea wrote: +#ifndef SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget +#define SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget [...] This patch would fix the build. Did it also fix the linking problems involving -lstdc++ for glxinfo, or were the patches that handle ${CXXLIB} still required?

Re: [PATCH] Re: Which .info files have been disabled?

2002-07-01 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/30 11:15), Szilveszter Adam wrote: Grrr, hit me baby one more time. One of the diffs included a completely gratuitous one-line change which I made yesterday night while I was tired and neglected to correct today. So, the patchset again. (Take three!) I've tested your patch

Re: i386 tinderbox failure

2002-06-27 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/26 19:00), Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Wed Jun 26 19:00:10 PDT 2002 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/bin/cvs: Shared object has no run-time symbol table I got this testing the RMEM_LIMIT patches, but it only crops up after about an hour of heavy ports building. You'll get this for

Re: i386 tinderbox failure

2002-06-27 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/27 16:33), Sheldon Hearn wrote: I got this testing the RMEM_LIMIT patches, but it only crops up after about an hour of heavy ports building. You'll get this for just any binary that uses mmap(). Unfortunately, I haven't had time to produce any useful debugging information, so

Re: What's the right way to build XFree86-4 now?

2002-06-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/25 22:02), Szilveszter Adam wrote: I've tried `make install' and `make CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++31 install', where that g++31 comes from the lang/gcc31 port, and either way, XFree86-4-clients fails with: There is another problem, however, and this is that the libGLU built is

Re: What's the right way to build XFree86-4 now?

2002-06-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:25:57 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I think I have a handle on this now. If you fix it before you hear back from me, let me know so I can stop wasting time on it. XF84-4 test builds are slow. :-) Okay, it looks like a bit of a mess. I've copied the XFree86-4

What's the right way to build XFree86-4 now?

2002-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, Could someone put me out of my misery and show me the right way to build XFree86-4 on -current at the moment. I've tried `make install' and `make CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++31 install', where that g++31 comes from the lang/gcc31 port, and either way, XFree86-4-clients fails with:

Re: Perl scripts that need rewiting - Any volunteers?

2002-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/25 10:20), Mark Murray wrote: How's this? int handle; template = /tmp/mumble; char *cmd; handle = mkstemp(template); // template is modified asprintf(cmd, prog %s, template); system(cmd); close(handle); // bye-bye file It would be failsafe if you tested that

Re: What's the right way to build XFree86-4 now?

2002-06-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/06/25 10:06), David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 09:21:57AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Could someone put me out of my misery and show me the right way to build XFree86-4 on -current at the moment. I've tried `make install' and `make CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++31 install

When was soundcard.h moved?

2002-06-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, When was soundcard.h moved from machine to sys? A large number of ports expect to find it in machine, and I can't find a __FreeBSD_version bump supporting the change. So I need to find out when it happened and piggy-back on the nearest __FreeBSD_version bump. :-( Ciao, Sheldon. To

Re: Looking for comments on a new utility...

2002-06-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:15:17 MST, Juli Mallett wrote: As some of you may have noticed, I've done some poking of ps(1) lately, and this has brought attention of people who have ideas for things that they would like to see done to ps(1) :) The most notable request was for a feature I've

Re: Looking for comments on a new utility...

2002-06-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 06:46:13 MST, Juli Mallett wrote: Piping commands through other commands seems icky? Relying on reasonable output from ps(1) seems icky when you can extract the data yourself and not have to worry about formatting getting in the way of processing data properly. I

Re: Looking for comments on a new utility...

2002-06-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:29:56 MST, Juli Mallett wrote: I don't think you should worry too much about _not_ getting reasonable output from POSIX-conformant utilities. :-) I'd read SUS's ps(1) escription a little closer. Very few guarantees with it. My POSIX.2 (1993) suggests that you

Re: Safe to go to -CURRENT?

2002-06-07 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:14:52 MST, David O'Brien wrote: There are still issues with the C++ compiler in the base system that make building X and some other C++ ports tricky. There is no issue with the C++ compiler. There is issue with the X source that uses depreciated features. The

Re: Safe to go to -CURRENT?

2002-06-06 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On 05 Jun 2002 08:46:59 GMT, Christopher Nehren wrote: I've been monitoring the -CURRENT mailing list for about a day or two, and haven't seen anything that's really broken (except for GCC 3.x, which I don't use anyway). So, is it safe to upgrade to -CURRENT yet? TIA for the info, Chris

Re: stat(1) (was Re: mergemaster(8) broken -- uses Perl

2002-06-06 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:58:14 MST, Doug Barton wrote: I'm currently testing a buildworld prior to importing NetBSD's stat(1) into the tree. Once that's done, if you have suggestions for improvements I'm sure that they would be interested. I'll be happy to work with you on adding useful bits

Re: buildworld error in gnu/lib/libstdc++

2002-06-06 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:36:04 +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: I've been seeing a compile error in gnu/lib/libstdc++ for days now. Since no one else reported it (not even tinderbox) I can only wonder what's up, and expecially how to get out of this. Show the compile error. Ciao, Sheldon. To

Re: buildworld failure in libfetch

2002-06-06 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:44:55 CST, Scott Long wrote: Ok, I finally feel the need to speak up here. DES, FREEFALL CVS IS NOT THE PLACE TO PUT EXPERIMENTAL CODE THAT BREAKS WORLD! PERIOD! Don't give me any crap about It's -current, you should expect breakage. You are abusing this

Re: mergemaster broken?

2002-06-05 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On 05 Jun 2002 15:01:24 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Looks like this is going to be necessary after each buildworld, then. :-/ No. Mergemaster should not use Perl, and the fact that it does is a bug. That's probably an overstatement. Perl used to be in the base system, and

Re: Please test the UFS2 patch!

2002-06-05 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:13:28 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I have uploaded an updated version of the UFS2 patch: http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/ufs2.patch Please test this! Is this something we can drop in and expect to work / panic / corrupt our filesystems without any change in

Re: gcc3.1 problems: undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'

2002-05-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:27:50 MST, Dan Trainor wrote: Being that -CURRENT's C++ compiler is b0rked, how long will it be until it's problems have been resolved? I've seen many problems with it lately, and it kinda made me worried, almost to the point where I thought a re-install from the

Re: gcc internal compiler error with mozilla

2002-05-27 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sun, 26 May 2002 15:28:44 MST, Lamont Granquist wrote: I got non-deterministic internal compiler errors when I was trying to compile mozilla. At the same time I was compiling gnome in another terminal window. It only happened with mozilla, it was non-deterministic in that I could do

Re: make includes

2002-05-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:56 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: People might want to use it like that: make world mv /usr/include /usr/include.old make incsinstall To remove stale includes. Previous version had includes that both built and installed includes, I have just split it in two

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