Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-16 Thread Mark Murray

 5. If you are using CTM to receive the "*,v" files and then using
 the "cvs" command to check out your source tree, then I don't know
 whether you need to delete your ",v" files and replace them or not.

You do need to delete your ,v files in this case (only for the crypto
dirs).

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-15 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Sheldon Hearn  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Warner, Mark says that this applies if you used CTM to get cvs's ,v
 files, not CTM.  Also, he clarified the last sentence for me, by saying
 that it's the crypto ,v files that need to be removed and not the
 checked out crypto files.

There has been a whole lot of confusing info floating around here.
Let me try to straighten this out.

1. If you are using CVSup in checkout mode, you don't have a
problem.  Go away and don't read any more of this. :-)

2. If in the past you have been getting your crypto files from the US
or Canada, you don't have a problem.  Go away and don't read any more
of this.

3. If you are running a CVSup mirror site, you don't have a problem.
Go away and don't read any more of this.

4. If you use CVSup to fetch the "*,v" files and then use the "cvs"
command to check out your source tree, then you need to delete the
*checked out sources* in these trees:

src/crypto
src/eBones
src/secure
src/sys/crypto

Then check out these sources again using the "cvs" command.  Do NOT
delete your "*,v" files -- they are perfectly fine.

5. If you are using CTM to receive the "*,v" files and then using
the "cvs" command to check out your source tree, then I don't know
whether you need to delete your ",v" files and replace them or not.
Hopefully Mark will clarify this if he hasn't already done so.  But
you definitely DO need to delete your *checked out sources* in these
trees:

src/crypto
src/eBones
src/secure
src/sys/crypto

Then check out these sources again using the "cvs" command.

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-15 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Udo Erdelhoff  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What about the non-US cvsup mirrors?

Mirror sites don't have a problem, and they shouldn't do anything
special.

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:19:48 +0200, Mark Murray wrote:

  2711:
  If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
  used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
  to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
  remove all the crypto files and start over.

Warner, Mark says that this applies if you used CTM to get cvs's ,v
files, not CTM.  Also, he clarified the last sentence for me, by saying
that it's the crypto ,v files that need to be removed and not the
checked out crypto files.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread David Scheidt

On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

:
:
:On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:19:48 +0200, Mark Murray wrote:
:
:  2711:
: If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
: used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
: to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
: remove all the crypto files and start over.
:
:Warner, Mark says that this applies if you used CTM to get cvs's ,v
:files, not CTM.  Also, he clarified the last sentence for me, by saying

Should this read "used CTM ... not CVS" or "used CVS ... not CTM"?  

DAvid



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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:36:38 EST, David Scheidt wrote:

 :Warner, Mark says that this applies if you used CTM to get cvs's ,v
 :files, not CTM.  Also, he clarified the last sentence for me, by saying
 
 Should this read "used CTM ... not CVS" or "used CVS ... not CTM"?  

Argh, what is it about this one? :-)

That should have read:

Warner, Mark says that this applies if you used CTM and not
CVSup to get cvs's ,v files.

Sorry,
Sheldon.


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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread Charles Anderson

How can I tell if I need to nuke my crypto files?  Sounds like I should
have this problem but it doen't look like I do.  I looked through the
commits for the past few days searching for crypto, and I have all of the
files that were commited.  (secure/lib/libcrypto/Makefile  Makefile.inc from
earlier today  crypto/openssh/ readconf.c, servconf.c, ssh_config, sshd.8,
 /telnet/libtelnet/auth.c from 7/11/00)

thanks,
-Charlie
On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 03:05:25PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
 I haven't looked into it too deeply yet because of other source tree 
 problems, but if you used to get your crypto ,v files from internat, 
 you will suffer some funny problems unless you nuke the old checked-out 
 files.
 
 My apologies if this is old news, but I see nothing in UPDATING.
 
 The problem occurs when you cvsup the new crypto-in-src-all sources 
 and replace RCS files with different contents and the same version 
 number.  cvs update/checkout compares the repo version number against 
 the checked out version number and considers the file an ``M'' 
 (modified source).  The file isn't updated and your world gets 
 corrupted.
 
 This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread Udo Erdelhoff

On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 01:56:31PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
 Also, he clarified the last sentence for me, by saying that it's the
 crypto ,v files that need to be removed and not the checked out crypto
 files.

What about the non-US cvsup mirrors? Most of them used cvsup to mirror
the crypto distributions from internat. Does this mean that these mirrors
have to nuke theier local copies (of the crypto files), too? That would
be a major problem for all users of these mirrors. They would have to
wait until "their" mirror fixed it's copy...

Is it possible to check if a repository is affected? Something along the
lines of "/home/ncvs/src/crypto/foo.c should have revision bar, last
commit by ... on ..., the md5 should be ..."

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread Brian Somers

 
 
 On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:19:48 +0200, Mark Murray wrote:
 
   2711:
 If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
 used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
 to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
 remove all the crypto files and start over.
 
 Warner, Mark says that this applies if you used CTM to get cvs's ,v
 files, not CTM.  Also, he clarified the last sentence for me, by saying
 that it's the crypto ,v files that need to be removed and not the
 checked out crypto files.

It applies if you overwrite your ,v files with the src-all ones, 
whether by CTM or cvsup.  ``cvs checkout'' will compare the checked 
out version with the repo version and think it has nothing to do, 
emitting

M src/crypto/whatever

 Ciao,
 Sheldon.

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread Brian Somers

cd /usr/src/whereever  cvs diff

or just check your ``cvs checkout'' output for lines beginning with M.

 How can I tell if I need to nuke my crypto files?  Sounds like I should
 have this problem but it doen't look like I do.  I looked through the
 commits for the past few days searching for crypto, and I have all of the
 files that were commited.  (secure/lib/libcrypto/Makefile  Makefile.inc from
 earlier today  crypto/openssh/ readconf.c, servconf.c, ssh_config, sshd.8,
  /telnet/libtelnet/auth.c from 7/11/00)
 
 thanks,
 -Charlie
 On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 03:05:25PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
  I haven't looked into it too deeply yet because of other source tree 
  problems, but if you used to get your crypto ,v files from internat, 
  you will suffer some funny problems unless you nuke the old checked-out 
  files.
  
  My apologies if this is old news, but I see nothing in UPDATING.
  
  The problem occurs when you cvsup the new crypto-in-src-all sources 
  and replace RCS files with different contents and the same version 
  number.  cvs update/checkout compares the repo version number against 
  the checked out version number and considers the file an ``M'' 
  (modified source).  The file isn't updated and your world gets 
  corrupted.
  
  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
[.]
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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra writes:
:  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
: 
: That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
: believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.

Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
2711:
If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
remove all the crypto files and start over.



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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Martin Hopkins

 "Warner" == Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Warner In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra writes:
Warner :  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
Warner : 
Warner : That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
Warner : believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.

Warner Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
Warner 2711:
Warner If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
Warner used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
Warner to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
Warner remove all the crypto files and start over.

My understanding was that the problem was cvsuping the crypto ,v
files from internat and then using cvs to get a source tree, i.e I was
under the impression that cvsup in checkout mode was ok.

Martin



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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Hopkins 
writes:
:  "Warner" == Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: 
: Warner In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra 
:writes:
: Warner :  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
: Warner : 
: Warner : That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
: Warner : believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.
: 
: Warner Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
: Warner 2711:
: Warner   If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
: Warner   used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
: Warner   to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
: Warner   remove all the crypto files and start over.
: 
: My understanding was that the problem was cvsuping the crypto ,v
: files from internat and then using cvs to get a source tree, i.e I was
: under the impression that cvsup in checkout mode was ok.

Do you have a suggested better text?  I thought I said that.

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Mark Murray

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra writes:
 :  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
 : 
 : That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
 : believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.
 
 Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
 2711:
   If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
   used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
   to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
   remove all the crypto files and start over.

Maybe add the directories it will impact; crc/crypto, src/sys/crypto, src/eBones, 
src/secure.

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Martin Hopkins


Warner In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin 
Hopkins writes:
Warner :  "Warner" == Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Warner : 
Warner : Warner In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John 
Polstra writes:
Warner : Warner :  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
Warner : Warner : 
Warner : Warner : That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ 
branches, I
Warner : Warner : believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough 
ground.
Warner : 
Warner : Warner Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
Warner : Warner 2711:
Warner : Warner   If you used to get your crypto files from internat, 
AND you
Warner : Warner   used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest 
changes
Warner : Warner   to the source collections will impact you.  You will 
need to
Warner : Warner   remove all the crypto files and start over.
Warner : 
Warner : My understanding was that the problem was cvsuping the crypto ,v
Warner : files from internat and then using cvs to get a source tree, i.e I was
Warner : under the impression that cvsup in checkout mode was ok.

Warner Do you have a suggested better text?  I thought I said that.

How about...

If you used to mirror the crypto portion of the repository from
internat AND used cvs to check out crypto sources from your local
repository then the recent changes to the source collections will
impact you.  You will need to remove all your crypto sources (e.g
cvs release -d crypto) and start over.

Comments Brian?

Martin



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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Martin Hopkins

 "Mark" == Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra writes:
 :  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
 : 
 : That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
 : believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.
 
 Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
 2711:
 If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
 used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
 to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
 remove all the crypto files and start over.

Mark Maybe add the directories it will impact; crc/crypto, src/sys/crypto, 
src/eBones, src/secure.

Agreed.  Reading this I just realised I missed the src-sys-crypto
collection in my proposed text.

Martin



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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-13 Thread Brian Somers

  "Mark" == Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra writes:
  :  This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
  : 
  : That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
  : believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.
  
  Does anybody have any text that is better than the following?
  2711:
  If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you
  used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes
  to the source collections will impact you.  You will need to
  remove all the crypto files and start over.
 
 Mark Maybe add the directories it will impact; crc/crypto, src/sys/crypto, 
src/eBones, src/secure.
 
 Agreed.  Reading this I just realised I missed the src-sys-crypto
 collection in my proposed text.

And I forgot eBones  secure !

I also never knew about ``cvs release''.  I did a rm -fr and then 
removed the entry from CVS/Entries :-/

 Martin

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**HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-12 Thread Brian Somers

I haven't looked into it too deeply yet because of other source tree 
problems, but if you used to get your crypto ,v files from internat, 
you will suffer some funny problems unless you nuke the old checked-out 
files.

My apologies if this is old news, but I see nothing in UPDATING.

The problem occurs when you cvsup the new crypto-in-src-all sources 
and replace RCS files with different contents and the same version 
number.  cvs update/checkout compares the repo version number against 
the checked out version number and considers the file an ``M'' 
(modified source).  The file isn't updated and your world gets 
corrupted.

This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.
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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-12 Thread Mark Murray

 My apologies if this is old news, but I see nothing in UPDATING.

I sent it to ctm-announce...

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Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-12 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Brian Somers  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't looked into it too deeply yet because of other source tree 
 problems, but if you used to get your crypto ,v files from internat, 
 you will suffer some funny problems unless you nuke the old checked-out 
 files.
[...]
 The problem occurs when you cvsup the new crypto-in-src-all sources 
 and replace RCS files with different contents and the same version 
 number.  cvs update/checkout compares the repo version number against 
 the checked out version number and considers the file an ``M'' 
 (modified source).  The file isn't updated and your world gets 
 corrupted.

One thing I'd like to stress is that this only affects you if you're
getting the CVS files (*,v) and then using the cvs command to check
them out and/or update them.  If you are using CVSup in checkout mode
(*default tag=something) then you don't need to do anything special.

 This is probably a candidate for UPDATING.

That wouldn't hurt.  But it actually affects _all_ branches, I
believe.  So in a way, UPDATING doesn't cover enough ground.

John
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