Re: missing interrupts (was Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...)

2000-11-28 Thread Bruce Evans
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Bruce Evans writes: Possible causes of the problem: 1) isa_handle_intr() claims to send specific EOIs (0x30 | irq) but actually sends non-specific ones (0x20 | garbage). Since interrupts I think that sending non-specific EOIs is

Re: missing interrupts (was Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...)

2000-11-27 Thread Robert Drehmel
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew Gallatin wrote: Bruce Evans writes: Possible causes of the problem: 1) isa_handle_intr() claims to send specific EOIs (0x30 | irq) but actually sends non-specific ones (0x20 | garbage). Since interrupts may be handled in non-LIFO order, this

Re: missing interrupts (was Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...)

2000-11-27 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Bruce Evans writes: Possible causes of the problem: 1) isa_handle_intr() claims to send specific EOIs (0x30 | irq) but actually sends non-specific ones (0x20 | garbage). Since interrupts may be handled in non-LIFO order, this results in EOIs being sent for the wrong

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 05:58:30PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:55:28PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: I thought I was the only one, since my question on the freebsd-current mailing list went unanswered. You are _not_ alone, there has been numerous complains

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-20 Thread Mark Murray
Interestingly though - I thrashed the disks for about 15 minutes to no avail before kldloading random.ko and firing up ssh, at which point it froze within a few minutes while typing. Obviously one data point isn't much to go off, but it might be somewhere to start looking. Now that I've

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-19 Thread Mark Huizer
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:20:49PM -0500, Steven E. Ames wrote: It seems to only do it SMP... the same machine built with a non-SMP kernel (same source code) runs just fine for extended periods. I have a non-SMP machine that is running a 15-nov current kernel, which freezes a few times a day.

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-18 Thread Michael Harnois
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:30:02 -0800 (PST), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: what the WITNESS code does is perform extra checks on mutex enter's and exit's to ensure that we aren't handling mutexes in such a way that a deadlock is possible. Thus, it verifies that you don't

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-18 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-current/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:30:02 -0800 (PST), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: what the WITNESS code does is perform extra checks on mutex enter's and exit's to ensure that we aren't handling mutexes in such a way

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-18 Thread Michael Harnois
On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:40:34 -0600 (CST), Jonathan Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What version of if_dc.c 1.38 -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "It's not what we don't know that hurts us, it's what

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:42:51 PST, Alfred Perlstein wrote: I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the situation. I see at least two experianced developers in the CC list, there's no reason for these poor

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Sheldon Hearn wrote: I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the situation. I see at least two experianced developers in the CC list, there's no reason for these poor bug reports. The

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Michael Harnois
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:55:28 +0100 (CET), Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It doesn't help here at least, the machine(s) just lock up solid only reset or a powercycle can bring them back... Same here ... as others noted, started with SMPng ... -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheldon Hearn writes: : The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the : debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible. My non-SMP : workstation has exhibited apparently arbitrary lock-ups since the advent : of SMPng. You can

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread John Baldwin
On 17-Nov-00 Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:42:51 PST, Alfred Perlstein wrote: I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the situation. I see at least two experianced developers in the CC

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheldon Hearn writes: : The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the : debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible. My non-SMP : workstation has exhibited apparently arbitrary

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message 25636.974487067@critter Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheldon Hearn writes: : : The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the : : debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:55:28PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: I thought I was the only one, since my question on the freebsd-current mailing list went unanswered. You are _not_ alone, there has been numerous complains about this on the list, but so far they have not been taken seriously

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-17 Thread Mike Smith
: You can also short IOCHK to ground to get an NMI which kicks you into : the debugger, even in an interrupt context. : : Bad news for you warner: On a too large sample of my newer : motherboards this doesn't work anymore :-( There's also a pci signal that you can either pull up or pull

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread Boris Popov
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: After last cvsup my machine (Dual PIII, SMP kernel) is freezing again in 10 min after boot... You mean "is still freezing" right ? Current has been like this for longer than I care to think about, it seems those in charge doesn't take these

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread Steven E. Ames
uot; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CURRENT is freezing again ... It seems Boris Popov wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: After last cvsup my machine (Dual PIII, SMP kernel) is freezing again in 10 min after bo

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
It seems Boris Popov wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: After last cvsup my machine (Dual PIII, SMP kernel) is freezing again in 10 min after boot... You mean "is still freezing" right ? Current has been like this for longer than I care to think about,

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Steven E. Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001116 09:27] wrote: It seems to only do it SMP... the same machine built with a non-SMP kernel (same source code) runs just fine for extended periods. John just checked in some code last night that may address your problems. I would try a new kernel, and

RE: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread John Baldwin
On 16-Nov-00 Valentin Chopov wrote: Hi, After last cvsup my machine (Dual PIII, SMP kernel) is freezing again in 10 min after boot... Thanks, Val Two questions: 1) What revision of sys/kern/kern_synch.c do you have? I fixed several things yesterday, and the latest version is

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems John Baldwin wrote: 1) What revision of sys/kern/kern_synch.c do you have? I fixed several things yesterday, and the latest version is 1.108. 1.108 2) If you do have the latest version, have you compiled a kernel with WITNESS, INVARIANTS, and INVARIANT_SUPPORT to see how it

Re: CURRENT is freezing again ...

2000-11-16 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 10:27:39PM +0100, Soren Schmidt scribbled: | It seems John Baldwin wrote: | | 1) What revision of sys/kern/kern_synch.c do you have? I fixed several things | yesterday, and the latest version is 1.108. | | 1.108 | | 2) If you do have the latest version, have you