Re: mbuf cache

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Petri Helenius wrote: This also has the desirable side effect that stack processing will occur on the same CPU as the interrupt processing occurred. This avoids inter-CPU memory bus arbitration cycles, and ensures that you won't engage in a lot of unnecessary L1 cache busting. Hence I

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Crist J. Clark
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 07:27:42PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Crist J. Clark wrote: --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Perhaps it would be a good idea to build a linker.hints file with kldxref(8) at boot time. At least, I can't

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:28:34AM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: Index: src/etc/rc.d/kldxref === RCS file: src/etc/rc.d/kldxref diff -N src/etc/rc.d/kldxref --- /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 - +++ src/etc/rc.d/kldxref

source upgrade broken?

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Garrett
Gentleman, Please correct me if I am wrong but it appears, that the source upgrade path from 4.* to 5.0 is broken. I havent played with it much but it appears thatbuilding the kernel, depends on somethings new to the -current compiler, and the compiler is dependant on stuff in the

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Re: source upgrade broken?

2003-03-17 Thread Scott Sipe
I second that problem. Tried doing an upgrade yesterday, and it didn't work--missing libc.so.4 error given during make installworld. Scott - Original Message - From: Robert Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:53 AM Subject: source upgrade

Re: mbuf cache

2003-03-17 Thread Petri Helenius
If you are asking for paper references, then I can at least tell you where to start; go to: http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/cs and look for Jeff Mogul, DEC Western Research Laboratories, Mohit Aron, Peter Druschel, Sally Floyd, Van Jacobson, SCALA, TCP Rate halving, Receiver Livelock, RICE

Re: Hang on Boot (still)

2003-03-17 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Lucas Reddinger wrote: The one alternative would be to compile a stripped kernel on another machine, and install off of it. I did this, but I do not have enough knowledge of the 5.x kernel/modules to be able to do this myself. If someone could give me some help with this

Re: source upgrade broken?

2003-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
Are you guys precisely following the instructions in src/UPDATING? On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Scott Sipe wrote: I second that problem. Tried doing an upgrade yesterday, and it didn't work--missing libc.so.4 error given during make installworld. Scott - Original Message - From: Robert

Re: crash: bwrite: need chained iodone

2003-03-17 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 2003-03-12, Jeff Roberson écrivait : Can you please print bp? I'd like to know what all of the members are. A cluster buf should NEVER have BX_BKGRDWRITE set. This is totally bogus. Got that crash again, with sync-on-panic disabled. The interesting thing is that the stack trace might

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Crist J. Clark wrote: Also, what's the best way/is there a way to figure out the boot directory rather than hardwire /boot/kernel? dirname `sysctl -n kern.bootfile` -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca TCO

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Crist J. Clark wrote: Perhaps it would be a good idea to build a linker.hints file with kldxref(8) at boot time. At least, I can't think of any really good reasons why _not_ to do it. [...] This is my first stab at rc-ng for a long while, so please be gentle if I've not handled that the best way.

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Crist J. Clark wrote: Perhaps it would be a good idea to build a linker.hints file with kldxref(8) at boot time. At least, I can't think of any really good reasons why _not_ to do it. [...] This is my first stab at rc-ng for a long while, so please be gentle if I've not

Re: wi driver

2003-03-17 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sam Leffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : * Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030316 21:19] wrote: : um.. : : ... : 840 _FLAGS_OUTRANGE) { : 841 WI_UNLOCK(sc); : 842 return; : 843 } : 844

Re: wi driver

2003-03-17 Thread M. Warner Losh
I've just committed the right fix for this (which is to nuke the bogus KASSERT). I have one or two other fixes in the pipe for lucent cards, but had hoped to get them 'perfect' rather than 'a lot better' before committing them. Since my time has been short, I'll go ahead and try to commit the

Re: source upgrade broken?

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Garrett
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:10:08AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Are you guys precisely following the instructions in src/UPDATING? most definately, the new compiler depends on new syscalls in the kernel, and the kernel depends on new options in the compiler. I could not find anything about this

Re: mbuf cache

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
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Re: source upgrade broken?

2003-03-17 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 07:44:02AM -0600, Robert Garrett wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:10:08AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Are you guys precisely following the instructions in src/UPDATING? most definately, the new compiler depends on new syscalls in the kernel, and the kernel depends on

Re: source upgrade broken?

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Garrett
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 07:51:34AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 07:44:02AM -0600, Robert Garrett wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:10:08AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Are you guys precisely following the instructions in src/UPDATING? most definately, the new compiler

HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
Hi! Hold off upgrading your Alphas for a moment. Something broke libc recently that results in (at least) floating point exceptions from awk(1) (this is not related to today's awk upgrade). I've been able to reproduce this on beast.freebsd.org by building the fresh libc.a and linking awk with

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
Yes, as I have suspected, the gdtoa change is responsible for a breakage. libc corresponding to this lib/libc works: cvs -q up -P -d -D'2003/03/12 20:20:00' : Using /home/ru/w/f/usr.bin/awk/nawk nawk... This version, together with contrib/gdtoa, doesn't: cvs -q up -P -d

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:40:37PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Yes, as I have suspected, the gdtoa change is responsible for a breakage. libc corresponding to this lib/libc works: cvs -q up -P -d -D'2003/03/12 20:20:00' : Using /home/ru/w/f/usr.bin/awk/nawk nawk... This version,

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:43:11PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:40:37PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Yes, as I have suspected, the gdtoa change is responsible for a breakage. libc corresponding to this lib/libc works: cvs -q up -P -d -D'2003/03/12

Re: Why did INVARIANTS hide the geom bug?

2003-03-17 Thread walt
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], walt writes: If inclusion of INVARIANTS serves to disguise bugs in the kernel, I wonder if kernel committers should be using this option routinely? Please check into our current reality :-) Hm. How do I parse that sentence? If you are

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:28:34AM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: +kldxref_start () { + if [ -z $kldxref_module_path ]; then + MODULE_PATHS=`sysctl -n kern.module_path` + else + MODULE_PATHS=$kldxref_module_path + fi Please change the logic to positive

.2 isn't a valid double and other problems

2003-03-17 Thread Franz Klammer
hi! cvsup and build (kernel + userland, empty /usr/obj): FreeBSD ds9.webonaut.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 16 17:53:22 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DS9 i386 since my update from yesterday (above), fontconfig can't read his configuration file. it claims

bwrite panics solved.

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Roberson
Got that crash again, with sync-on-panic disabled. The interesting thing is that the stack trace might be corrupted or inaccurate (maybe some tail recursion optimisation or inlining is going on around): although it seems to indicate that the panic is the one from bwrite: need chained iodone

mdconfig/mdmfs problems - kernel panic

2003-03-17 Thread John Stockdale
OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT, JPSNAP20030314 I'm running a Dual Xeon system with 1GB DDRRAM, and trying to create a ram disk to compile under, specifically to compile the kernel. I've tried several methods, involving either creating one 512MB disk with mdconfig or mdmfs. No matter what options I

Re: mdconfig/mdmfs problems - kernel panic

2003-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Stockdale writes: OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT, JPSNAP20030314 I'm running a Dual Xeon system with 1GB DDRRAM, and trying to create a ram disk to compile under, specifically to compile the kernel. I've tried several methods, involving either creating one 512MB disk

RE: mdconfig/mdmfs problems - kernel panic

2003-03-17 Thread John Stockdale
Ahh, that explains why the multiple /dev/md* didn't help the problem. I'm looking into the vmstat options, but can't figure out how to extract the malloc-per-bucket-quota limit for the system (I've read man vmstat, and tried vmstat -z and vmstat -m, but the only Limit listed is under vmstat -z,

Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
Is there anyone working on fsck? Recent timings with a fast machine with 1TB filesystems show that it takes abuot 6 hours to fsck such a filesystem (on a fast array with a lot of RAM) This is with a version of fsck that already has some locally developed speedups and changes. I have not dared

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030317 12:22] wrote: Is there anyone working on fsck? Recent timings with a fast machine with 1TB filesystems show that it takes abuot 6 hours to fsck such a filesystem (on a fast array with a lot of RAM) This is with a version of fsck that already has

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
this is a full 100% forground fsck -y On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030317 12:22] wrote: Is there anyone working on fsck? Recent timings with a fast machine with 1TB filesystems show that it takes abuot 6 hours to fsck such a

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Crist J. Clark
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:11:12AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:28:34AM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: +kldxref_start () { + if [ -z $kldxref_module_path ]; then + MODULE_PATHS=`sysctl -n kern.module_path` + else +

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
I might add that the test filesystem was 95% full with about 8,000,000 directories on it. It was populated with multiple copies of /bin and /etc as a test set :-) On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Julian Elischer wrote: this is a full 100% forground fsck -y On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:22:33 -0800 (PST) Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, It wouldn;t be super fast but at least it COULD be used to check a 30TB array, where the in-memory version would beed a process VM space of 24MB which is clearly impossible on a x86. I'm sure most

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:43:19PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:11:12AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:28:34AM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: +kldxref_start () { + if [ -z $kldxref_module_path ]; then + MODULE_PATHS=`sysctl -n

Re: NFS file unlocking problem

2003-03-17 Thread Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Steve Sizemore wrote: Sorry - I was trying to be too helpful. I actually did capture the raw dump but appended the decoded output. This time, I've attached a real raw dump. The dump doesn't seem to be attached. However, I note that the request being sent is SETLKW which

`make buildworld' failed

2003-03-17 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, current! How are you? I have: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT 24 Feb 2003 21:55:43 MSK. I have very rcent sources of -CURRENT (updated 17 Mar 2003 about 20:00 MSK (GMT+3)). `make buildwolrd' was failed (only very tail of output is here): cc -pg -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -DTERMIOS

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Bakul Shah
UFS is the real problem here, not fsck. Its tradeoffs for improving normal access latencies may have been right in the past but not for modern big disks. The seek time RPM have not improved very much in the past 20 years while disk capacity has increased by a factor of about 20,000 (and GB/$

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bakul Shah writes: UFS is the real problem here, not fsck. Its tradeoffs for improving normal access latencies may have been right in the past but not for modern big disks. The seek time RPM have not improved very much in the past 20 years while disk capacity has

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
Thanks for your thoughts. . Some good points.. On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Bakul Shah wrote: UFS is the real problem here, not fsck. Its tradeoffs for improving normal access latencies may have been right in the past but not for modern big disks. The seek time RPM have not improved very much in

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Bakul Shah wrote: Anyway, support for all of these have to be done in the filesystem first before fsck can benefit. yep If instead you spend time optimizing just fsck, you will likely make it far more complex (and potentially harder to get right). You talk like I

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Bakul Shah
Now, before we go off and design YABFS, can we just get real for a second ? I leave it to others to design YAFS, I just wanted to complain about this one :-) Every few years I seriously look at speeding up fsck but give up. I remember even asking about it a few years ago on one of these

Re: NFS file unlocking problem

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Sizemore
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 01:21:19PM -0800, Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr. wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Steve Sizemore wrote: The dump doesn't seem to be attached. However, I note that the request It appears that there are problems sending the raw dump. I've tried twice - once 2 minutes after I sent

Re: .2 isn't a valid double and other problems

2003-03-17 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Franz Klammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cvsup and build (kernel + userland, empty /usr/obj): FreeBSD ds9.webonaut.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 16 17:53:22 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DS9 i386 since my update from yesterday (above), fontconfig

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Bakul Shah
You talk like I have a choice :-) I cannot change ufs/ffs and even if I could the clients wouldn't go for it. What about changing the size of block size or cyl grp size? Do they change things much? The problem space is Fsck of UFS/FFS partitions is too slow for 200GB+ filesystems. The

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hold off upgrading your Alphas for a moment. Something broke libc recently that results in (at least) floating point exceptions from awk(1) (this is not related to today's awk upgrade). I've been able to reproduce this on beast.freebsd.org by

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:45:15PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: I might add that the test filesystem was 95% full with about 8,000,000 directories on it. It was populated with multiple copies of /bin and /etc as a test set :-) How much like you're real file mix does this look? If your real

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:12:31PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: Thus spake Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hold off upgrading your Alphas for a moment. Something broke libc recently that results in (at least) floating point exceptions from awk(1) (this is not related to today's awk

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Bakul Shah wrote: Now, before we go off and design YABFS, can we just get real for a second ? I am skeptical you will get more than a factor of 2 improvement without changing the FS (but hey, that is 3 hours for Julian so I am sure he will be happy with that!).

Re: Create linker.hints at boot

2003-03-17 Thread Crist J. Clark
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 01:07:53PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:43:19PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:11:12AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:28:34AM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: +kldxref_start () { + if

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Roberson
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:45:15PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: I might add that the test filesystem was 95% full with about 8,000,000 directories on it. It was populated with multiple copies of /bin and /etc as a test set :-) How much like

crashdump when compile java/jdk14

2003-03-17 Thread Sergey A. Osokin
Hello, $ gdb -k /sys/i386/compile/HP6100/kernel.debug /usr/crash/vmcore.0 GNU gdb 5.2.1 (FreeBSD) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:39 PM +0100 2003/03/17, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Optimizing fsck is a valid project, I just wish it would be somebody who would also finish the last 30% who would do it. Just what are you saying? Is Julian Elischer not the right person to be working on this, because he has a history of

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 17 March 2003 at 22:39:02 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bakul Shah writes: UFS is the real problem here, not fsck. Its tradeoffs for improving normal access latencies may have been right in the past but not for modern big disks. The seek time RPM

Re: Hang on Boot (still)

2003-03-17 Thread Lucas Reddinger
:D I booted the two floppies again. I tried what you said. hw.eisa_slots=0. It got farther this time. I got a full dmesg. However, it was followed by this: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x7 fault code= supervisor read, page not present

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:45:15PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: I might add that the test filesystem was 95% full with about 8,000,000 directories on it. It was populated with multiple copies of /bin and /etc as a test set :-) How much like

Re: .2 isn't a valid double and other problems

2003-03-17 Thread Franz Klammer
Am Mo, 2003-03-17 um 23.08 schrieb David Schultz: Thus spake Franz Klammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cvsup and build (kernel + userland, empty /usr/obj): FreeBSD ds9.webonaut.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 16 17:53:22 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DS9 i386

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pptp mpd under 5.0

2003-03-17 Thread Aaron Wohl
Im trying to run pptp under 5.0 -current. (first time with mpd so probably some config issue) I get these errors: mpd: pid 1102, version 3.13 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] 09:35 17-Mar-2003) [pptp0] can't create socket node: No such file or directory mpd: local IP address for PPTP is 10.23.0.3 [pptp0]

nfs panic: lockmgr: locking against myself

2003-03-17 Thread Andrew Gallatin
I'm seeing the following panic under heavy NFS client usage on an SMP w/kernel sources from Weds. evening. Has this been fixed? Thanks, Drew panic: lockmgr: locking against myself cpuid = 0; lapic.id = Debugger(panic) Stopped at Debugger+0x55: xchgl %ebx,in_Debugger.0 db t

md(4) crashes in current

2003-03-17 Thread Kevin Oberman
After configuring an md in current (as of last Friday), I will later panic. Unfortunately (or not), the kernel on this system was built without symbols, witness, invariants, or debugger. So I built a new kernel with all of those things and...no more panics. Makes debug a bit difficult. I then

Re: nfs panic: lockmgr: locking against myself

2003-03-17 Thread Maxime Henrion
Andrew Gallatin wrote: I'm seeing the following panic under heavy NFS client usage on an SMP w/kernel sources from Weds. evening. Has this been fixed? If I'm not mistaken, this is the problem Jeff fixed in revision 1.134 of vfs_cluster.c. Cheers, Maxime To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: nfs panic: lockmgr: locking against myself

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Roberson
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Andrew Gallatin wrote: I'm seeing the following panic under heavy NFS client usage on an SMP w/kernel sources from Weds. evening. Has this been fixed? Thanks, Drew I believe that is fixed in nfs_vnops.c 1.200. panic: lockmgr: locking against myself cpuid = 0;

Re: nfs panic: lockmgr: locking against myself

2003-03-17 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Maxime Henrion writes: Andrew Gallatin wrote: I'm seeing the following panic under heavy NFS client usage on an SMP w/kernel sources from Weds. evening. Has this been fixed? If I'm not mistaken, this is the problem Jeff fixed in revision 1.134 of vfs_cluster.c. Great!

Re: NFS file unlocking problem

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr. wrote: The dump doesn't seem to be attached. However, I note that the request being sent is SETLKW which is a blocking wait until lock is granted. If the server thinks the file is already locked, it will hang *and* that is the proper behavior. It is, to ensure FIFO

Re: pptp mpd under 5.0

2003-03-17 Thread Scot Hetzel
From: Aaron Wohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] replacement for MAKDEV to mkae them? ... and I cant seem to get truss to run at all on any program... bash-2.05b# truss mpd truss: cannot open /proc/curproc/mem: No such file or directory truss: cannot open /proc/1107/mem: No such file or directory

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Bakul Shah wrote: UFS is the real problem here, not fsck. Its tradeoffs for improving normal access latencies may have been right in the past but not for modern big disks. The seek time RPM have not improved very much in the past 20 years while disk capacity has increased by a factor of

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: The problem space is Fsck of UFS/FFS partitions is too slow for 200GB+ filesystems. The solution space can not contain any answer that includes redefining UFS/FFS. Welcome to the real world. :-) Use smaller than 200GB+ filesystems. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe:

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Bakul Shah wrote: I have been tending UNIX computers of all sorts for many years and there is one bit of wisdom that has yet to fail me: Every now and then, boot in single-user and run full fsck on all filesystems. If this had failed to be productive, I would have given

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: I am still intrested in improvements to fsck since I'm planning to buy several systems with two 1.4TB IDE RAID5 arrays in them soon. For these types of systems doing a block caching layer with a prefetch that understands how

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Roberson
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: I am still intrested in improvements to fsck since I'm planning to buy several systems with two 1.4TB IDE RAID5 arrays in them soon. For these types of systems doing a block

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: I am still intrested in improvements to fsck since I'm planning to buy several systems with two 1.4TB IDE RAID5 arrays in them soon. For these types of

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 23:02:38 -0500, Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: I am still intrested in improvements to fsck since I'm planning to buy several systems with two 1.4TB IDE RAID5 arrays

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Bakul Shah
UFS is the real problem here, not fsck. Its tradeoffs for improving normal access latencies may have been right in the past but not for modern big disks. ... Sorry, but the track-to-track seek latency optimizations you are referring to are turned off, given the newfs defaults, and

ACPI suspend problem (ThinkPad X23)

2003-03-17 Thread FUJITA Kazutoshi
Hi, My -CURRENT(2003/03/12) laptop(ThinkPad X23) can't be suspended. When I try # acpiconf -s 1 I have console message 'acpi0: AcpiGetSleepTypeData failed - AE_NOT_FOUND' How can I solve this? dmesg output is attached. Regards, Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c)

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Knowles writes: At 10:39 PM +0100 2003/03/17, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Optimizing fsck is a valid project, I just wish it would be somebody who would also finish the last 30% who would do it. Just what are you saying? Is Julian Elischer not the

Re: ACPI suspend problem (ThinkPad X23)

2003-03-17 Thread User Takawata
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], FUJITA Kazutoshi wrote : Hi, My -CURRENT(2003/03/12) laptop(ThinkPad X23) can't be suspended. When I try # acpiconf -s 1 I have console message 'acpi0: AcpiGetSleepTypeData failed - AE_NOT_FOUND' How can I solve this? dmesg output is attached. It seems that

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: Optimizing fsck is a valid project, I just wish it would be somebody who would also finish the last 30% who would do it. Poul-Henning, how can you justify the second half of that sentence? I take exception to the implications. In

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Bakul Shah wrote: Sorry, but the track-to-track seek latency optimizations you are referring to are turned off, given the newfs defaults, and have been for a very long time. I was thinking of the basic idea of cylinder groups as good for normal load, not so good for fsck when you have

Software RAID caching? (was: Anyone working on fsck?)

2003-03-17 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 17 March 2003 at 23:02:38 -0500, Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Jeff Roberson wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Brooks Davis wrote: I am still intrested in improvements to fsck since I'm planning to buy several systems with two 1.4TB IDE RAID5 arrays in

Re: NFS file unlocking problem

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Sizemore
Hi, Terry - On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 07:02:31PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr. wrote: being sent is SETLKW which is a blocking wait until lock is granted. If the server thinks the file is already locked, it will hang *and* that is the proper behavior. It is, to

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Mark Linimon
I'll stop as soon as KSE is finished, fair ? I'm very disappointed in this response. Poul, everything else I've read from you to date has been reasonable except for this posting. I would think that you, yourself, should be especially sensitive to criticism of unfinished projects. Things such

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, as I have suspected, the gdtoa change is responsible for a breakage. libc corresponding to this lib/libc works: cvs -q up -P -d -D'2003/03/12 20:20:00' : Using /home/ru/w/f/usr.bin/awk/nawk nawk... This version, together with

Re: NFS file unlocking problem

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Steve Sizemore wrote: Thanks for the explanation. If I were a programmer, it would be very useful. As it is, it's still interesting. I have no way of judging the quality of the code in question, other than the empirical result that it works in most cases. Well, then you are stuck with the

Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas!

2003-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
David Schultz wrote: This is because floating point support on Alpha is broken unless you specifically tell gcc to unbreak it by specifying -mieee. Sounds like the ability to turn -mieee off at all, let alone making it the default, is bad? If so, why is that the way it is configured? I'm

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Peter Wemm
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: Optimizing fsck is a valid project, I just wish it would be somebody who would also finish the last 30% who would do it. Poul-Henning, how can you justify the second half of that sentence? I take