Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-30 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA


Ok, this is the 3rd revised patch for PnP. I think it works
fairely well.

I may not invest further time on this, now that ACPI is
taking over device configuration business... :-)

Kazu

>> I once wrote the following patch to deal with this problem by
>> probing ISA devices in the following order.
>> 
>> 1. sensitive ISA devices described in device.hints
>> 2. PnP BIOS ISA devices
>> 3. other ISA devices described in device.hints
>> 4. PnP ISA devices
>
>This order is still slightly wrong.  You need to do:
>
> 0. Disable ALL PnP devices which can be disabled.
> 1. PnP devices (of any kind) which cannot be disabled, or which only
>have a single configuration.  These devices which cannot be disabled
>need a placeholder attached to them if a driver doesn't claim them,
>or some other mechanism so that their resources are never used.
> 2. Sensitive hinted ISA devices.
> 3. Other ISA devices.
> 4. Other PnP devices.

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-29 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA


>> I once wrote the following patch to deal with this problem by
>> probing ISA devices in the following order.
>> 
>> 1. sensitive ISA devices described in device.hints
>> 2. PnP BIOS ISA devices
>> 3. other ISA devices described in device.hints
>> 4. PnP ISA devices
>
>This order is still slightly wrong.  You need to do:
>
> 0. Disable ALL PnP devices which can be disabled.

Ya, the patch disables PnP devices (if they can be disabled) before it
starts probing devices.  It enables each PnP device only when it is
about to be probed...

> 1. PnP devices (of any kind) which cannot be disabled, or which only
>have a single configuration.  These devices which cannot be disabled
>need a placeholder attached to them if a driver doesn't claim them,
>or some other mechanism so that their resources are never used.
> 2. Sensitive hinted ISA devices.
> 3. Other ISA devices.
> 4. Other PnP devices.

Ok, revised patch is attached.

Kazu

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-27 Thread Darryl Okahata

Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > It's written for 4.X, but might work for -current (you'll have to
> > disable the checks for 4.X, at the very least).  You use it like this:
> > 
> > dmesg | scanirq
> 
> It's completely obsoleted by devinfo and pciconf's '-v' flag.
> 
> Sorry. 8)

 Cool!  I didn't want to support it, anyway.  ;-)

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> I remember an ACER system with a bus mouse on the motherboard
> which was unknown to the PnP BIOS, and Windows 95 trying to
> be a "PnP OS" used to always do what above looks to be the
> "PnP ISA devices" phase of things, and gave IRQ 12 to the
> second IDE disk interface, instead of the on-board mouse...
> which would exactly fit this bill.

See my immediately preceeding message for how this has to be worked 
around.  It's doable.

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> I once wrote the following patch to deal with this problem by
> probing ISA devices in the following order.
> 
> 1. sensitive ISA devices described in device.hints
> 2. PnP BIOS ISA devices
> 3. other ISA devices described in device.hints
> 4. PnP ISA devices

This order is still slightly wrong.  You need to do:

 0. Disable ALL PnP devices which can be disabled.
 1. PnP devices (of any kind) which cannot be disabled, or which only
have a single configuration.  These devices which cannot be disabled
need a placeholder attached to them if a driver doesn't claim them,
or some other mechanism so that their resources are never used.
 2. Sensitive hinted ISA devices.
 3. Other ISA devices.
 4. Other PnP devices.


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rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Warner Losh wrote:
> : Whether it's perfect or not, making the device.hints "go away"
> : in the presents of PnP BIOS on the machine would seem to be
> : able to address the issue of doubled entries... right?
> 
> Not entirely.  There are ISA devices in devices.hints that aren't plug
> and play and aren't in the PnP BIOS list.  That's a worse problem than
> the minor printf :-).

Ouch.

[ ... ]

> What we'd like to happen:
> 
> PnP BIOS devices
> device.hints
> PnP ISA devices
> 
> What we do now
> 
> device.hints
> PnP BIOS devices
> PnP ISA devices

Let me ask one more question... you want this reordering to
ensure that you can handle the PnP BIOS cases where some
legacy device *is* known to the PnP BIOS, vs. where the
legacy device is _NOT_ known to the PnP BIOS, so that the
device.hints can find it if it's there, before we fall into
the PnP ISA ["Plug-N-Play OS"] game, right?

I remember an ACER system with a bus mouse on the motherboard
which was unknown to the PnP BIOS, and Windows 95 trying to
be a "PnP OS" used to always do what above looks to be the
"PnP ISA devices" phase of things, and gave IRQ 12 to the
second IDE disk interface, instead of the on-board mouse...
which would exactly fit this bill.

-- Terry

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> 
> > Then go look them up.  I'm not about to stuff the entire PnP device 
> > database into the kernel just to satisfy your curiosity. 8(
> 
> I was going to ask where, but I see they are in
> /usr/src/sys/boot/common/pnpdata.

That's a useful subset that I keep forgetting about; thanks for reminding 
me.

Google is also remarkably good at finding these things (it's how I've 
found most of the databases I have).

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA


>: Whether it's perfect or not, making the device.hints "go away"
>: in the presents of PnP BIOS on the machine would seem to be
>: able to address the issue of doubled entries... right?
>
>Not entirely.  There are ISA devices in devices.hints that aren't plug
>and play and aren't in the PnP BIOS list.  That's a worse problem than
>the minor printf :-).
>
>: Is there something I'm not seeing here from Kazutaka's posting,
>: or am I being misled?
>
>Yes.  Yes. :-)
>
>What we'd like to happen:
>
>   PnP BIOS devices
>   device.hints
>   PnP ISA devices
>
>What we do now
>
>   device.hints
>   PnP BIOS devices
>   PnP ISA devices
>
>Note, I tried making the simple changes to make this work, but it
>failed in subtle ways that I didn't have time to trackdown...
>
>Warner

I once wrote the following patch to deal with this problem by
probing ISA devices in the following order.

1. sensitive ISA devices described in device.hints
2. PnP BIOS ISA devices
3. other ISA devices described in device.hints
4. PnP ISA devices

I am not entirely happy with the patch, though.

Kazu

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Brad Huntting


> Then go look them up.  I'm not about to stuff the entire PnP device 
> database into the kernel just to satisfy your curiosity. 8(

I was going to ask where, but I see they are in
/usr/src/sys/boot/common/pnpdata.


thanx,
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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> I think the reason the hints are not just ignored is to allow
> people to fix "rogue" hardware.  I'm willing to be corrected,

Good.  It's like it is right now because the PnP stuff was bolted on as 
an afterthought.

> since this looks like about 12 lines of code would make it
> ignore device.hints in the "PnP BIOS present" case.

We don't want to ignore the hints either; we just want them to take lower 
precedence than the PnP BIOS data.  Hints can be perfectly valid and 
relevant in either the "broken BIOS" or "non-PnP device" cases.

Basically, the problem we have is that we don't have the developer 
bandwidth to catch up with what has to be done, let alone fix the 
bandaids that were applied years ago.  This results in suboptimal 
situations like this, something that's only going to be exacerbated as 
fully funded developer time for FreeBSD-mainline work doesn't seem to be 
increasing. 8(

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Terry Lambert writes:
: Warner Losh wrote:
: > Since that's not how it works, the solution is a non-starter.
: > 
: > We just need to carefully order the ISA code probing sections to get
: > the desired effects.  We haven't done that yet.  All PnP devices are
: > probed together at the end, which isn't quite right.
: 
: The problem was presented as "we are getting two entries for
: the devices: one for the PnP BIOS, one for the device.hints".

That's a useful high level abstraction of what's happening.  However,
it isn't completely accurate either.

: Whether it's perfect or not, making the device.hints "go away"
: in the presents of PnP BIOS on the machine would seem to be
: able to address the issue of doubled entries... right?

Not entirely.  There are ISA devices in devices.hints that aren't plug
and play and aren't in the PnP BIOS list.  That's a worse problem than
the minor printf :-).

: Is there something I'm not seeing here from Kazutaka's posting,
: or am I being misled?

Yes.  Yes. :-)

What we'd like to happen:

PnP BIOS devices
device.hints
PnP ISA devices

What we do now

device.hints
PnP BIOS devices
PnP ISA devices

Note, I tried making the simple changes to make this work, but it
failed in subtle ways that I didn't have time to trackdown...

Warner

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Warner Losh wrote:
> Since that's not how it works, the solution is a non-starter.
> 
> We just need to carefully order the ISA code probing sections to get
> the desired effects.  We haven't done that yet.  All PnP devices are
> probed together at the end, which isn't quite right.

The problem was presented as "we are getting two entries for
the devices: one for the PnP BIOS, one for the device.hints".

Whether it's perfect or not, making the device.hints "go away"
in the presents of PnP BIOS on the machine would seem to be
able to address the issue of doubled entries... right?

Is there something I'm not seeing here from Kazutaka's posting,
or am I being misled?

Thanks,
-- Terry

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Mike Smith wrote:
> > So, you are saying that this is because there is not a seperate
> > "No BIOS" and "BIOS" section (or entry prefix) in the hints file,
> > so that in a non-PnP system, both the "No BIOS" and "BIOS"
> > entries will be examined, whereas on a PnP system, only the "BIOS"
> > entries will be examined?
> 
> This would be an unnecessary complication.

I think the reason the hints are not just ignored is to allow
people to fix "rogue" hardware.  I'm willing to be corrected,
since this looks like about 12 lines of code would make it
ignore device.hints in the "PnP BIOS present" case.


> > PS: The "BIOS" section could be shipped non-empty, if it had
> > a "per-rogue" setion or prefix... then known broken PnP BIOS
> > systems would "just work".
> 
> The amount of work involved in making this "just work" would be pretty
> enormous, and most of the applicable systems are approaching "relic"
> status, making it hard to find them in order to debug.

I wasn't suggesting that the work be done up front!

This would have to be handled on a case-by-case basis, by
the people having the problems with the defaults sending
in their identifying information and the fix that works
for them.  It would only accumulate the knowledge of the
rogues over an extended period of time, on an as-needed basis.

Regards,
-- Terry

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Terry Lambert writes:
: So, you are saying that this is because there is not a seperate
: "No BIOS" and "BIOS" section (or entry prefix) in the hints file,
: so that in a non-PnP system, both the "No BIOS" and "BIOS"
: entries will be examined, whereas on a PnP system, only the "BIOS"
: entries will be examined?
: 
: It seems an obvious enhancement to me that there be seperate
: sections, where the "BIOS" section is shipped empty, and is only
: consulted to override broken PnP BIOS contents on PnP BIOS
: systems...
: 
: PS: The "BIOS" section could be shipped non-empty, if it had
: a "per-rogue" setion or prefix... then known broken PnP BIOS
: systems would "just work".

Since that's not how it works, the solution is a non-starter.

We just need to carefully order the ISA code probing sections to get
the desired effects.  We haven't done that yet.  All PnP devices are
probed together at the end, which isn't quite right.

Warner

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Warner Losh wrote:
> : Shouldn't we just take the Linux/NetBSD information, and
> : actually identify the things instead of saying "Unknown",
> : instead, and leave them printing to encourage someone the
> : messages annoy to do the work?
> 
> I'd guess that's too much work.  Maybe someone can prove me wrong with
> trivial patches.

I think that the correct fix is to deal with the device hints
differentially in the "PnP BIOS present" case, per other posts.

Would you accept patches against 4.4-RELEASE?  I don't run
-current these days, since I need my machines to boot
reliably and do real work, other than FreeBSD hacking...

-- Terry

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> So, you are saying that this is because there is not a seperate
> "No BIOS" and "BIOS" section (or entry prefix) in the hints file,
> so that in a non-PnP system, both the "No BIOS" and "BIOS"
> entries will be examined, whereas on a PnP system, only the "BIOS"
> entries will be examined?

This would be an unnecessary complication.

> PS: The "BIOS" section could be shipped non-empty, if it had
> a "per-rogue" setion or prefix... then known broken PnP BIOS
> systems would "just work".

The amount of work involved in making this "just work" would be pretty 
enormous, and most of the applicable systems are approaching "relic" 
status, making it hard to find them in order to debug.

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> > >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> > >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> > >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> > >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> > >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> > >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> > >
> > >Don't worry about these.
> > 
> > Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.
> 
> Shouldn't we just take the Linux/NetBSD information, and
> actually identify the things instead of saying "Unknown",
> instead, and leave them printing to encourage someone the
> messages annoy to do the work?

We don't need to "take" the information from anywhere; I've had most of 
the comprehensive databases for a while now.

The problem with simply stuffing them into the kernel is that they're 
big, and I tend to agree with folk that we don't really want large 
single-use string tables in the kernel.

This is why the PCI code that identifies unattached drivers reads the 
strings from a loadable file; once we can safely throw away loaded files, 
we can load the file at boot/install/whenever time and then throw it away 
once we're not interested anymore.

However, the real reason that most of these strings are being printed is 
that the ISA probe order is bass-ackwards.  The strings are printed 
because we have good PnP information that tells us a device is present, 
but we've already gone and believed the ISA hints and stuck a driver in 
that's claiming some or all of these resources.  The messages should be 
silenced for 4.4, but the deeper problem needs to be addressed as well.

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote:
> Um, we see these messages not only because our ISA PnP driver needs
> some update, but also because we create ISA device instances TWICE for
> each motherboard ISA devices, such as sio and atkbdc, due to
> /boot/device.hints.
> 
> We need to have /boot/device.hints for those systems without PnP BIOS.
> On the system with the PnP BIOS, we shall have one ISA device instance
> (say, sio0) created by the isahint driver based on hints described in
> /boot/device.hints, and the pnpbios driver will create another
> instance (sio%d) for the very same device, based on information from
> the PnP BIOS.  Then, we will see "unknown:  can't assing
> resources" when the second device instance is probed. This happens
> even if the device driver understands PnP IDs.

So, you are saying that this is because there is not a seperate
"No BIOS" and "BIOS" section (or entry prefix) in the hints file,
so that in a non-PnP system, both the "No BIOS" and "BIOS"
entries will be examined, whereas on a PnP system, only the "BIOS"
entries will be examined?

It seems an obvious enhancement to me that there be seperate
sections, where the "BIOS" section is shipped empty, and is only
consulted to override broken PnP BIOS contents on PnP BIOS
systems...

PS: The "BIOS" section could be shipped non-empty, if it had
a "per-rogue" setion or prefix... then known broken PnP BIOS
systems would "just work".

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Alexander Langer

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> I'd guess that's too much work.  Maybe someone can prove me wrong with 
> trivial patches.

Maintaining the device-table is probably the most work (since
we already have the PNP string and most lists are sortedc
by this string as well).

Alex

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Terry Lambert writes:
: Shouldn't we just take the Linux/NetBSD information, and
: actually identify the things instead of saying "Unknown",
: instead, and leave them printing to encourage someone the
: messages annoy to do the work?

I'd guess that's too much work.  Maybe someone can prove me wrong with 
trivial patches.

Warner

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote:
> >: I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've
> >: been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it
> >: belongs to?
> >:
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >
> >Don't worry about these.
> 
> Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.

Shouldn't we just take the Linux/NetBSD information, and
actually identify the things instead of saying "Unknown",
instead, and leave them printing to encourage someone the
messages annoy to do the work?

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wilko Bulte writes:
: They are also in RELENG_4..

Those should be hidden by -v then :-)

Warner

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Mike Smith

> 
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> >: unknown:  can't assign resources
> 
> > Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.
> 
> I would be satisfied just knowing what devices these messages
> correspond to.  I suspect this the sentiment of the original poster
> as well.

Then go look them up.  I'm not about to stuff the entire PnP device 
database into the kernel just to satisfy your curiosity. 8(

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA


>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kazutaka YOK
>OTA writes:
>: Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.
>: 
>: The attached patch will print this message only when we boot
>: the kernel by 'boot -v'.
>
>They are there to remind certain folks that the ISA PnP code is broken 
>slightly and to please fix :-).  If we get closer to 5.0 RC1, then
>yes.
>
>Warner

Um, we see these messages not only because our ISA PnP driver needs
some update, but also because we create ISA device instances TWICE for
each motherboard ISA devices, such as sio and atkbdc, due to
/boot/device.hints.

We need to have /boot/device.hints for those systems without PnP BIOS.
On the system with the PnP BIOS, we shall have one ISA device instance
(say, sio0) created by the isahint driver based on hints described in
/boot/device.hints, and the pnpbios driver will create another
instance (sio%d) for the very same device, based on information from
the PnP BIOS.  Then, we will see "unknown:  can't assing
resources" when the second device instance is probed. This happens
even if the device driver understands PnP IDs.

Kazu

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 09:51:57AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kazutaka YOKOTA 
>writes:
> : Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.
> : 
> : The attached patch will print this message only when we boot
> : the kernel by 'boot -v'.
> 
> They are there to remind certain folks that the ISA PnP code is broken 
> slightly and to please fix :-).  If we get closer to 5.0 RC1, then
> yes.

They are also in RELENG_4..

Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #2: Mon Jul 30 20:35:10 CEST 2001
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Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
...
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources


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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Brad Huntting


>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources

> Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.

I would be satisfied just knowing what devices these messages
correspond to.  I suspect this the sentiment of the original poster
as well.


brad

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kazutaka YOKOTA 
writes:
: Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.
: 
: The attached patch will print this message only when we boot
: the kernel by 'boot -v'.

They are there to remind certain folks that the ISA PnP code is broken 
slightly and to please fix :-).  If we get closer to 5.0 RC1, then
yes.

Warner

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-26 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA

>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David W. Chapman
> Jr." writes:
>: I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've 
>: been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
>: belongs to?
>: 
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>: unknown:  can't assign resources
>
>Don't worry about these.
>
>Warner

Shouldn't we just suppress the message?  It just confuses users.

The attached patch will print this message only when we boot
the kernel by 'boot -v'.

Kazu

Index: isa_common.c
===
RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/isa/isa_common.c,v
retrieving revision 1.23
diff -u -r1.23 isa_common.c
--- isa_common.c2001/08/10 07:50:14 1.23
+++ isa_common.c2001/08/26 10:24:03
@@ -416,10 +416,11 @@
/*
 * Disable the device.
 */
-   bus_print_child_header(device_get_parent(child), child);
-   printf(" can't assign resources\n");
-   if (bootverbose)
-   isa_print_child(device_get_parent(child), child);
+   if (bootverbose) {
+   bus_print_child_header(device_get_parent(child), child);
+   printf(" can't assign resources\n");
+   isa_print_child(device_get_parent(child), child);
+   }
bzero(cfg, sizeof (*cfg));
if (idev->id_config_cb)
idev->id_config_cb(idev->id_config_arg, cfg, 0);


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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-25 Thread Mike Smith

>  Going off on a slight tangent, I wrote a perl script months ago
> that parsed the output of dmesg, and tried to determine which IRQs were
> used, and for what.  One of the side-effects of this script is that it
> also tried to identify unknown PCI devices (but *only* if an IRQ is
> used), using an (old) hard-coded table originally obtained from:
> 
>   http://www.yourvote.com/pci/pcidev.csv
> 
> You can get the script from:
> 
>   ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/darrylo/freebsd/scanirq.gz
> 
> It's written for 4.X, but might work for -current (you'll have to
> disable the checks for 4.X, at the very least).  You use it like this:
> 
>   dmesg | scanirq

It's completely obsoleted by devinfo and pciconf's '-v' flag.

Sorry. 8)

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-25 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David W. Chapman Jr." 
writes:
: I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've 
: been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
: belongs to?
: 
: unknown:  can't assign resources
: unknown:  can't assign resources
: unknown:  can't assign resources
: unknown:  can't assign resources
: unknown:  can't assign resources
: unknown:  can't assign resources

Don't worry about these.

Warner

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-23 Thread Darryl Okahata

Alexander Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thus spake David W. Chapman Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've 
> > been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
> > belongs to?
> 
> Statically wired ISA devices.
> 
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> 
> 501 are the sio ports for example.
> 
> Look up some PNP devices listings, they're probably all listed
> in your device.hints.

 Going off on a slight tangent, I wrote a perl script months ago
that parsed the output of dmesg, and tried to determine which IRQs were
used, and for what.  One of the side-effects of this script is that it
also tried to identify unknown PCI devices (but *only* if an IRQ is
used), using an (old) hard-coded table originally obtained from:

http://www.yourvote.com/pci/pcidev.csv

You can get the script from:

ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/darrylo/freebsd/scanirq.gz

It's written for 4.X, but might work for -current (you'll have to
disable the checks for 4.X, at the very least).  You use it like this:

dmesg | scanirq

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-23 Thread Alexander Langer

Thus spake David W. Chapman Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've 
> been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
> belongs to?

Statically wired ISA devices.

> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources

501 are the sio ports for example.

Look up some PNP devices listings, they're probably all listed
in your device.hints.

Alex

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-23 Thread Salvo Bartolotta

"David W. Chapman Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is believed to have written:

> On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 01:13:36AM +0200, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> > > I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've
> 
> > > been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
> > > belongs to?
> > 
> > > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This harmless message has been known for a good number of months.
> There is 
> > nothing to worry about.
> > 
> > Now before someone flames both of us -- me for responding and you for
> not 
> > first searching the archives, where discussions about this topic took
> place 
> > countless times -- could you please go there and retrieve this
> information? 
> > :-))
> > 
> > By the way, you can also find freebsd posts on http://www.google.com
> and 
> > http://www.geocrawler.com.
> > 
> I have no problem with that, last time I asked this wasn't in the 
> archives and I didn't get a response.




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.
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http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#PNP-RESOURCES

-- Salvo

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-23 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 01:13:36AM +0200, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> > I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've 
> > been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
> > belongs to?
> 
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> 
> 
> 
> This harmless message has been known for a good number of months. There is 
> nothing to worry about.
> 
> Now before someone flames both of us -- me for responding and you for not 
> first searching the archives, where discussions about this topic took place 
> countless times -- could you please go there and retrieve this information? 
> :-))
> 
> By the way, you can also find freebsd posts on http://www.google.com and 
> http://www.geocrawler.com.
> 
I have no problem with that, last time I asked this wasn't in the 
archives and I didn't get a response.

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Re: unknown PNP hardware

2001-08-23 Thread Salvo Bartolotta

> I'm running -current as of an hour ago.  I've gotten this since I've 
> been running 4.2-stable, any ideas on how I can find out what it 
> belongs to?

> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources



This harmless message has been known for a good number of months. There is 
nothing to worry about.

Now before someone flames both of us -- me for responding and you for not 
first searching the archives, where discussions about this topic took place 
countless times -- could you please go there and retrieve this information? 
:-))

By the way, you can also find freebsd posts on http://www.google.com and 
http://www.geocrawler.com.

HTH,
Salvo

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