Re: Automatic updates (was Re: How long for -stable...)

2000-10-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jordan Hubbard writes: : I think that we can do a lot with cvsupd. I've used cvsupd to grab : binaries on an experimental basis and it seems to work great. I've : : Hmmm. Does cvsupd also move a target out of the way if it already : exists and it's in the

Re: Problems with Serial Console

2000-10-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Lang writes: : Maybe somehow, /dev/console is redirected to /dev/ttyd0 and : so both don't seem to work. Modem control might be enabled when in fact you have no modem control lines connecteD? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: dual console with matrox g400

2000-10-08 Thread Warner Losh
One might also be able hack the various universal port replicators to allow one to have multiple heads. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: dual console with matrox g400

2000-10-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : Well, you obviously need two keyboards and two mice. I can't think of : a case where that would be useful, but with x2x (in the Ports : collection) you can allow different people access to the same server. In 1990 I shared a Solbourne

Re: reseting hardware after apm resume

2000-10-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brad Guillory writes: : I have a "new" laptop and a few problems related to apm resume. apm on most modern machines is useless. You need to have acpi support for things to work well. Good thing ACPI has been committed. : When I suspend to disk then resume my sound

Re: dual console with matrox g400

2000-10-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I had a PC with two graphics cards long before that. It was : relatively common to have a machine with both CGA and MDA, and there : were some debuggers which would handle both (debug a full-screen : application with the debug output on the other

Re: dual console with matrox g400

2000-10-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : Well, multiple mice were never an issue, but the keyboard was. I had : done some thinking about a serial keyboard, but mainly to get away : from the stupid layouts of PC keyboards. Ah, yes. http://www.village.org/~imp/newtkb-1.0.tar.gz...

Re: FireWire Device Driver

2000-10-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Andrew R. Reiter" writes: : which he gives a major value for the device driver,... and asks when it : should be ready for use with -current. I have emailed the guy from japan : and have received no response... so I am wondering if anyone else knows : what's up with

Re: Boot off USB SanDisk?

2000-10-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Miller writes: : SanDisk makes a IDE-like flash card one could plug into a $30 USB : flashcard reader. : : Would FreeBSD have any idea how to boot off such a beast? Alternatively, : anyone know of an ISA/PCI adapter with enough bios on it to boot off a :

Re: can't build custom kernel

2000-10-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Len Conrad writes: : First thing: read /usr/src/UPDATING. : : but I'm not UPDATING, I've installed to virgin disk from 4.1.1 iso-image. The problem is that you need to add the ISA compat shims: options COMPAT_OLDISA # compatability shims for

Re: Who broke ls in FreeBSD? and why?

2000-10-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will Andrews writes: : [ redirected to -hackers ] : : On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 12:23:57AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: : What's wrong with -a? And what the heck does this have to do with : mobile computing? : : -a doesn't disable -A, it adds to it (also shows .

Re: Boot off USB SanDisk?

2000-10-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Dean writes: : : You can use a IDE - CF adapter to boot off this device. You can't : : boot it off via the USB device however. : : So does FreeBSD recognize this as 'ad[0123]'? Even if we can boot : from them, I suppose that it would be asking too much

Re: AW: AW: Accessing the tty structure of an opened device

2000-11-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message 10553.972652114@critter Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : the time between a pulse and a space often only takes : a few milliseconds. I have to meassure that with : gettimeofday(). : : You will need to do this in a device driver, there is no way you : can reliably measure that from

Re: AW: Accessing the tty structure of an opened device

2000-11-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Silbersack writes: : Stop trying to do this; you cannot poll the serial line at anything like : a useful speed to perform IR decoding. The entire approach you're trying : to take is unworkable. : : Hm, it seems like every motherboard made in the last few

Re: granularity of gettimeofday()

2000-11-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alfred Perlstein writes: : Gettimeofday will force a check of the system hardware, basically : you should get better than 100HZ resolution with gettimeofday. gettimeofday on many systems do this. There are other, older systems that do not have a high resolution

Re: Broken PCI-IDE RZ1000 ata

2000-11-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Ottevanger writes: : http://www.intel.com/procs/support/rz1000/ According to this, disabling readahead fixes the problem. It also says you need to mask interrupts so that you don't access the register file for the device. Looking at this I'm not sure if you

Re: irq status

2000-11-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Anderson writes: : I got curious too and decided to join. If you have dealt with Linux, it : has 'interrupts' file in /proc filesystem. It tells you what IRQs are : currently in use and what's using them. Is there something similar on : FreeBSD? vmstat -i

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rink Springer writes: : I got the stuff to compile et al, but I cannot get the darned thing to : run as a KLD. FreeBSD doesn't appear to try to probe for the interface : :(. When I tell FreeBSD it's a PCI thing (instead of ISA), it probes for : it... : : How can I

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sergey Babkin writes: : Maybe I'm missing something but I think that the point of the identify : routine is to discover this address whatever it is, so it does not : have to be fixed. That doesn't work on the ISA bus too well, unless the card can only be in a few

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sergey Babkin writes: : Ah, right. I confused it with another case, where the probe routine : tries to look for all possible ports. If I remember correctly, : "aha" is an example of such device. Yes. aha is pushing the upper limits of what is safe to do. Warner

Re: user-space resource information...

2000-11-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Smith writes: : Well, I'm really sick of people complaining about not being able to get : at the things the resource manager knows from userspace. So I've done : something about it. Cool. I've wanted this for some time now. : 0: Interrupt request lines

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rink Springer writes: : I've got a probe, attach and a dummy identify procedure for my driver : now. When I load the KLD, my identify procedure gets triggered, but the : probe procedure doesn't! Why? Can someone help me? I've tightly used : aha_isa.c as a help...

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rink Springer writes: : I'd like to point out that I'm writing a KLD driver, so the problem : shouldn't be in the kernel, correct? Yes : Why is this? Aha.c does an ISA auto-detect, which I want to do too... : why does it work for AHA and not for me? I'll need

Re: KLD's on ISA: another problem

2000-11-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rink Springer VII writes: : static void : dl_identify (driver_t* driver,device_t parent) { : device_t t; : : printf ("DL: IDENTIFY\n"); : t = BUS_ADD_CHILD (parent, 0, "dl", 0); : bus_set_resource (t, SYS_RES_IOPORT, 0, 0x378, 3); :

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sergey Babkin writes: : Hints file is only in -current (AKA 5.0). In 4.x the kernel config : file contains this information (which I guess is of no use for : KLD drivers). Probably you can do a likewise thing in 4.x with : sysctl variables. I've ported the meat of

Re: KLD's on ISA bus: how?

2000-11-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rink Springer VII writes: : Yes... is that bad? It was the only way to get BSD to probe it. You should do this only if you haven't done it already. : On the sidenote, my BSD box totally CRASHES after I attach the device using the : ether_attach call... any idea why?

Re: kernel stack size?

2000-11-08 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jacques Fourie writes: : Would it be possible to pre-allocate a block of memory : and then "switch" stacks in my interrupt routine? This : may be far off, but my only other option is going : through ~1 lines of code and examining all places : where local variables

Re: printf()

2000-11-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zhenhai Duan writes: : Does the kernel function printf() flushes the output immediately, or it is : possible some data is buffered somewhere and gets lost without printing : to the console? like the corresponding funtion in the c library. Yes. It can be buffered,

Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Koster, K.J." writes: : 3Com 3c503ISA I think so. The ed driver supports this : DEC EtherworksISA : DEC DE205 ISA don't know about these. lnc driver supports them maybe ? : SMC EtherEZ ISA ed driver. : RealTek "TP-Link"

Re: printf()

2000-11-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : printf("foo do foo\n"); : crash_here(); : printf("after the crash\n"); : : And never see the statement "foo do foo\n"; : Is that correct? Yes. But I had a lot of printfs in the code that I was debugging and the last few wouldn't be

Re: What about rc.shutdown.local?

2000-11-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan Grant writes: : It _is_ trivial, but you miss my point: I run several things at startup : that rely on a database service (which needs to be launched first). When : they shut down, the DB must still be running (it's taken down last). So : using a *.sh pattern for

Re: KLDs and PCI?

2000-11-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Chris Ptacek" writes: : I am working on a KLD for a PCI device. My problem is I can't find how to : call the probe and attach calls during the load for a PCI device. I have : looked in the /usr/src/sys/pci directory and haven't found any KLDs to use : as an

Re: pci bus enumeration cdevsw indexing

2000-11-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Lipe writes: : Is there a "normal" way for a conforming driver to walk the busses, : pluck out bus number, slot number, device id, subsystem id, and all that : traditional stuff, or do I just need to carve up pci.c and build my own : interface to do it? You

Re: C and C++ on FreeBSD

2000-11-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thierry writes: : We are implementing our OS modem on FreeBSD, but lot of our sources : have writen in C++. Is it possible to compile the FreeBSD kernel in : C++ to include our driver ? Yes and No. If you use only the bare minimal subset of features for the C++ and

Re: C and C++ on FreeBSD

2000-11-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Dufault writes: : C++ work in an embedded system. Exceptions had already been given : up on. The ctors/dtors are handled with "munch" style tools : (from vxWorks land) that generate construct/destruct : vectors that you'll probably then hook in with kernel

Re: Moused doesn't reinitialize mouse after removal and reinsertion...

2000-11-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Howland writes: : pain, albeit not completely unbearable. Anyone have any theories on how we : could get moused to a) detect the mouse being unplugged and reinserted and : b) reinitialize the mouse after this happens? Here's some fun info type : stuff (in case

Re: changing a running process's credentials

2000-11-15 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Pentchev writes: : There are situations (at least I could think of some :) where it is necessary : to change a running process's credentials. I'm thinking specifically of the : effective UID and GID, but I might have to tinker with the real and saved : UID's,

Re: changing a running process's credentials

2000-11-15 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Pentchev writes: : Hmm.. I've also received two private mails so far, pointing me to setuid(). : The problem is, I want to force a new UID on *another* process without : its knowledge. setuid() only works on the process invoking it, so : both the 'force' and

Re: changing a running process's credentials

2000-11-15 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alfred Perlstein writes: : Unless this syscall was restricted to root, or a small subset of : uid's it would cause some severe security issues from my point : of view. Even the small subset of uids would be highly suspect. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: scheduler activations in FBSD5.0?

2000-11-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message 001d01c04fdc$9e2e2e80$020a@mike "Daryl Chance" writes: : Is there a FreeBSD 5.0 Stable or is there only a current : and stable reserved for the current release version (4.X). STABLE is reserved for those branches that have had a release on them. Since there's been no 5.0 release

Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission?

2000-12-03 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Gallatin writes: : I'd vote for leaving the access permissions as is. I'd agree with that. We don't know that all PCI hardware will not cause problems when arbitrary locations in config space are read. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pccard driver docs

2000-12-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Willem van Engen writes: : I'm writing a pcmcia device driver for the PhyDAS system used in our university : for measurements. I have been searching the internet for information on : programming a driver on the pccard bus, but I haven't found any good overview : of a

Re: pccard driver docs

2000-12-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : Of course of someone who knew about pccard would add the appropriate code to the : example driver.. That would make things too easy :-) Seriously, however, in 4.x and earlier it would be no different. In 5.x there's a new requirement

Re: Support for Syba pci multi i/o card?

2000-12-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Hay writes: : Does anyone know of patches or something to support these cards? The cards : that I have is by Syba Tech and is a 4 x serial and 2 x parallel port pci : card. It has 2 winbond W83877TF 2 x serial + 1 x parallel port "superio" : chips and some pci

Re: Optimal UFS parameters

2000-12-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Dillon writes: : : -b 16384 -f 4096 -c 159 : I think Bruce swears by 4K (page-sized) fragments. Not a bad : way to go. I use 2K because I (and others) put in so much hard work : to fix all the little niggling bugs in the VM system related to

Re: Support for Syba pci multi i/o card?

2000-12-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Smith writes: : If there aren't any patches I might look at adding support for it. Probably : only the serial ports, because that is what I need. I would like some advice : on how to do it though. I had a look at the sio driver and it has support : for a few

Re: Support for Syba pci multi i/o card?

2000-12-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message 92918.976225307@critter Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : There is a PR already with a patch for some multiport cards... Yes. I'm aware of that patch... But I don't like it because it doesn't use the multiio pseudo-bus thing that I talked about. Bruce also has some style concerns with it

Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission?

2000-12-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Chad R. Larson" writes: : Has the core group ever weighed in on this? Does the BSDi merger : change any of the FreeBSD focus with regard to other hardware : architectures? Core, per se, hasn't. There's a very strong history in this project that if a port is

Partial start on pci + serial/parallel cards

2000-12-08 Thread Warner Losh
OK. I have a partial start on the serial/parallel cards. It isn't attaching anything yet, but should give people an idea on the direction I'd like to head. As part of this work, I'll likely remove pci attachment of sio, and change it to puc. puc is the name NetBSD uses (I snagged the tables

Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission?

2000-12-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: : ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our : way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on What? I don't see how you can say that about security... Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: SCTP implementation and pccard.conf change for Cisco 802.11B 340 series cards

2000-12-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan "\"Taz\"" Mischo writes: : #Cisco 340 series 802.11B wireless NICs : card "Cisco Systems" "340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter" : config 0x5 "an" ? : insert /etc/pccard_ether $device : remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete This already

Re: Partial start on pci + serial/parallel cards

2000-12-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicolas Souchu writes: : looking at the code. I'd also think about moving it to dev/ppc with a : ppc_isa.c and ppc_puc.c. : : This is something I don't understand. If ppc_puc is a PCI driver why don't : you put in the pci directory and let ppc_isa in isa one?

Re: Partial start on pci + serial/parallel cards

2000-12-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Baldwin writes: : : On 12-Dec-00 Warner Losh wrote: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicolas Souchu writes: : : looking at the code. I'd also think about moving it to dev/ppc with a : : ppc_isa.c and ppc_puc.c. : : : : This is something I don't understand

Re: syscall assembly

2000-12-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc Tardif writes: : So why is %esp displaced by 16 bytes when only 8 bytes : are necessary (4 for $0 and 4 for $.LC0)? And couldn't : the compiler use a single instruction such as : subl $16,%esp or addl $-16,%esp? Are two instructions : used for pipelining

Re: very big mail spool directory

2000-12-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Finch writes: : Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : If you only have half a million users, pick a prime number K close to : the square root of the expected number of users (724 in your case - : closest primes are 719 and 727), create that many

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Pedro F. Giffuni" writes: : There was somone looking at the NetBSD code with hungry eyes but I : never heard anything more... check the archives. Last I heard, only the MIPS based PDAs were supported by NetBSD/hpcmips. I know that there are some efforts to make

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Swindells writes: : As far as I can tell, the hpcmips kernel reuses the WinCE MMU : translations; all the arm32 ones rely on a bootloader to map RAM : to 0xf000. The hpcmips kernel doesn't do that. The hpcmips loader does that. Once the stuff is loaded

Re: Partial start on pci + serial/parallel cards

2000-12-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicolas Souchu writes: : I'm sure that this subject has been discussion many times on the lists. : I'm also sure that there's a good reason for this, otherwise it wouldn't be : your choice (you is the team). But as it is the opposite of my personal : feeling, could

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes: : NetBSD? They have existing ARM and "hpc" ports, this would be a merging : of the two... I didn't think that NetBSD had a hpc port. They have an hpcmips port in the tree, as well as other hpc ports not yet committed (hpcsh3 has been seen in the

Re: Support for Syba pci multi i/o card?

2000-12-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: : On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : I've been holding off working on this until I saw what haked out of : the bus unification work that Matt Dodd has been working on. I think : he's mostly done, but I wasn't s

Request for review of newfs update

2000-12-16 Thread Warner Losh
I've made the following change to newfs man page locally. Please comment upon the style of the change as well as its technical accuracy. Style comments should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc'd (I'm not on doc@). Technical content comments should be sent to [EMAIL

Re: Why not another style thread? (was Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getgrent.c)

2000-12-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: : What do folks think about : : 1)if (data) : free(data); : : versus : : 2)free(data); : : versus : : 3)#define xfree(x) if ((x) != NULL) free(x); : xfree(data); Number 2. ANSI-C (aka c89)

Re: Why not another style thread? (was Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getgrent.c)

2000-12-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: : I hate to give up a line for : : if (data) : free(data); : : but neither do I care for ``if (data) free(data);''. I guess if I : were writing several statements like that in a single file, I would : consider the

Re: Writing Device Drivers

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : I have the pci/isa driver skeleton pretty up-to-date, but it doesn't : have any DMA example code, nor does it have any sample code for : pccard or cardbus . Aren't there two kinds of DMA that we need to worry about? Those that are "isadma"

Re: Why not another style thread? (was Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getgrent.c)

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: : None taken. It is however a simple and safe optimization, with no : apparent downsides. It has the same attraction as using bit shifts : instead of multiplication/division, or saving the value from a function : call that will be needed

Re: Why not another style thread? (was Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getgrent.c)

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: : Ever notice that you tend to send more email when you should be studying : for a final? That's why Style(9) wars break out this time of year. :-) : /* Case 1 */ /* Case 2 */ : if (data)

Re: National Semiconductor 82c168/82c169 driver

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Luce writes: : I haven't been able to find a driver for this ethernet card, so I'm : working on porting the Linux driver over. It seems to have "natsemi" : coded in as the default device mnenomic. Is it a good idea to pull this : name directly over to FreeBSD?

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : IIRC, NetBSD doesn't have the newer StrongARM SA-11xx ports. : And that's why we have to work from ARM/Linux. In conversations that I had with an unnamed vendor a while ago, the newer parts should be just a few days of casual effort to

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : Do you use the gcc embedded optimizations? No. Not directly. My install script assumes that : | which lets you tweak things to year heart's delight. Every time I go : | to put this script up, I run into the "oh, but I want it to do X Y

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : Would 20mb be a comfortable target for : "make buildsmallworld installsmallworld" ? The build would have to : be interactive. And the interactive build can record all the : options/choices done by the user for future builds. That :

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : It was my understanding from BSDCon2000 that we are targeting : more platforms. It is my sense of core that core would support new architectures if they make sense. To make sense, the architecutre must be widely deployed (or about to be

Re: KB problemo.

2000-12-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Preece writes: : At 17:00 22/12/00 -0500, you wrote: : On a reboot I get : bp, then keyboard not found or keyboard error. So, yes : as mentioned just recently on this list, hard switches are _BAD_. : : So the keyboard controller's toast, is that

Re: kvtop() on alpha question

2000-12-23 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Langer writes: : How can the if_ed driver work on FreeBSD/Alpha, if it uses kvtop(), : but kvtop() is only defined in sys/i386/i386/vm_machdep.c? I don't think it can. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: fd1720

2000-12-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message Pine.GSO.4.30.0012232213090.16265-10@gecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On the same token, I have tried to get a (possibly used) 2.88 MB Floppy : drive for some time. It seems to me that even though all floppy : controllers support these babies, nobody makes them. There are one or

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

2000-12-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Belits writes: : That is your interpretation. Other lawyers disagree with that : interpretation. : : No. This issue was beaten to death multiple times, large amount of : software was created based on this, and its legality is absolutely : certain by now.

Re: fd1720

2000-12-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Any specific types/brands of CF to IDE adapter you could recommend? Either the tapr one (http://www.tapr.org) or the pcengines one (http://www.pcengines.com) work. Timing solutions builds its own, so I don't know of others. The one on

Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux, Solaris, and NT

2000-12-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "SteveB" writes: : Since when is a product required to be open source to run on Linux? My : understanding was if an product was developed using GPL'd code or : libraries then that product is required to offer source. But just an : application running on Linux, that

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

2000-12-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : JKH, DG, CORE respond. Core does not respond to mail not directed to it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

2000-12-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Seebach writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes : : : : JKH, DG, CORE respond. : : Core does not respond to mail not directed to it. : : Not to mention the basic problem of J Random

Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?

2000-12-25 Thread Warner Losh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "David O'Brien" writes: : Uh no. Both of those times that a message was sent out, it wasn't even : signed (Internet on 10 May 2000 and Freefall on 16 May 2000). Hop on : over the the archives on hub.freebsd.org and get your facts

Re: pccard issue

2000-12-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andreas Brodmann writes: : The pccardd is running. Does anyone know what it could be : or what I have to do to get any output from pccardd (even : if it was just saying "i don't know the card you inserted"). Interesting. You should at least get a card inserted

Re: Silent FreeBSD

2000-12-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message 005801c07037$47ae6ea0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Renaud Waldura" writes: : I've got that FreeBSD gateway in a corner at my house, it works fine dandy : but the constant noise (whirring fans, hard drives) gets on my nerves. : : What solutions have people explored to quiet down a computer

Re: Silent FreeBSD

2000-12-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes: : We have several NIC's around here (the New Internet Computer, see : http://www.thinknic.com/ for details) and will be adding a couple of these : so we can boot FreeBSD or NetBSD on them in the next little while. A NIC : running FreeBSD on a

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

2000-12-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Taavi Talvik writes: : On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote: : : If your company's infrastrucutre changes are made in a way that if : the project adopted them it would help binary support, I'm sure that would : be accepted. : : ie. if we just made function

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT

2000-12-29 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis writes: : 4.1 broke that "policy" rather badly. Perhaps its time to get rid of the : mbuf macros, as any change to that structure breaks binary compatibility in : the worst way possible. Agreed. There are too many things that have been MFC'd that change the

Re: Silent FreeBSD

2000-12-29 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes: : What's a good price point for a bedroom/kitchen "thin" computer with an : 800x600 LCD panel? If it had builtin ethernet, then I'd go up to $400-$500. If not, then I'd go $50-$100 less. Especially if there were no slots at all in it. Warner

Easy way to recover disk

2000-12-29 Thread Warner Losh
OK. I have a disk drive that is failing in random ways. Today blocks 123 456 and 293 might be unreadable. Tomorrow, it might be these and 27 or it might just be 27. It is an IDE drive. I was wondering if anybody had a program that would read the entire disk and keep a list/bitmap of the bad

Re: Easy way to recover disk

2000-12-29 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : Isn't this what the Linux badblocks program is for? Why don't you take that : and find a way to feed this into badsect(8)... I thought the linux badblocks program found bad blocks and keep the user from using them. I want to read the entire

Re: Easy way to recover disk

2000-12-29 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : No, badblocks always reads the whole disk- it emits a list of badblocks. : It's e2fsck that is then used to tell the filesystem that these blocks are : unavailable. Ah. Yes. I see now. It would be useful. Before I discovered this I hacked

Re: Just how standard is APM?

2001-01-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Wheeler writes: : Hi all : : I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-S on a Compaq Presario laptop. This laptop seems : to have APM support (at least it does under MS-Windows), but FreeBSD : doesn't recognise it as such. I've gone so far as to add additional log : messages in

Re: Allocating an IRQ on PCI

2001-01-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Matthew C. Forman" writes: : Thing is, here the BIOS hasn't allocated an IRQ, so I'll need to : bus_set_resource in my probe to get one. To complicate matters, the : device's interrupt generator is pretty flexible, and can generate an : interrupt on (almost) any IRQ

Re: Just how standard is APM?

2001-01-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Wheeler writes: : Nope - as I said, I added log messages to apm.c to log the BIOS probe : and they log a failure (I have "device apm0" in my config file). What's the failure mode? Is it enabled in the BIOS (I assume it is, otherwise it wouldn't work in 'Doz).

Re: Xbox

2001-01-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mohan Khurana writes: : Well, this is going to seem like a rather strange question. I understand : that Xbox is simply IA-32, however I have heard that the Xbox has a : special ROM that boots Windows CE, to ensure that people do not purchase : the Xbox for the sole

Re: Setting default hostname to localhost

2001-01-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Watson writes: : Unless there are some really good reasons : not to (which there may be), I'd like to commit changes to -CURRENT's : /etc/default/rc.conf to change the default hostname to "localhost". We have localhost.com as one of our domains here in the

Re: Setting default hostname to localhost

2001-01-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archie Cobbs writes: : There is an RFC that specifies a "private use" top level domain, : analogous to 192.168.0.0/16, 10.0.0.0/8, etc. : : The domain is ".local" so any default ending in ".local" should : not conflict. RFC 2606 states: To safely satisfy these

Re: pppd mkdir diff

2001-01-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "W.H.Scholten" writes: : + while (path[ strlen(path)-1 ] == '/') path[ strlen(path)-1 ] = 0; Style(9) says write this like: while (path[ strlen(path)-1 ] == '/') path[ strlen(path)-1 ] = 0; : + : + slash = strrchr(path, '/'); : +

Re: bus_alloc_resource and RF_SHARABLE

2001-01-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Justin T. Gibbs" writes: : RF_SHARABLE requests to share a resource with another device, not : within the same device. Further, RF_SHARABLE only applies to : IRQs, not BARs. Actaully, the underlying RF_SHARABLE is for any region of resource that can be multiplexed

Re: sys/disklabel.h in C++ files

2001-01-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Langer writes: : How do you include sys/disklabel.h in C++ files? You can't. It is broken :-(. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: sys/disklabel.h in C++ files

2001-01-13 Thread Warner Losh
Warner Losh writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander : Langer writes: : : How do you include sys/disklabel.h in C++ files? : : You can't. It is broken :-(. But I just fixed it. Looks like version 1.54 broke this. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: sys/disklabel.h in C++ files

2001-01-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes: : Warner Losh wrote: : : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander : Langer writes: : : How do you include sys/disklabel.h in C++ files? : : You can't. It is broken :-(. : : Alexande, you could fix it, and submit it in a PR. : : Hope springs

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