Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le 31/05/2013 16:01, Chris Rees a écrit : Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain expression I passed took a very long time, and suspected the usual backtracking loop, so I started trimming

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Eduardo Morras
On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain expression I passed took a very long time, and suspected the usual

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain expression I

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le 02/06/2013 14:16, Chris Rees a écrit : On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it.

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 June 2013 18:15, Florent Peterschmitt flor...@peterschmitt.fr wrote: Le 02/06/2013 14:16, Chris Rees a écrit : On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Adrian Chadd
... so run it inside hwpmc and see what the resulting CPU users are? adrian On 31 May 2013 07:01, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain expression I

sed query

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Rees
Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain expression I passed took a very long time, and suspected the usual backtracking loop, so I started trimming it... and discovered this: [crees@pegasus]~%

Re: USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ?ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, August 06, 2008 a las 07:29:31PM +0200, Oliver Fromme escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: I've updated usb/80361, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80361 because I have the same problem as well that an USB key attaches fine when plugged in at boot time

Re: USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ?ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-07 Thread Oliver Fromme
Matthias Apitz wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: I've updated usb/80361, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80361 because I have the same problem as well that an USB key attaches fine when plugged in at boot time, but not later: I'm just

Re: USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ?ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-07 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:54:53AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, August 06, 2008 a las 07:29:31PM +0200, Oliver Fromme escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: I've updated usb/80361, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80361 because I have the same problem

Re: USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ?ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
rebelion kernel: da0: VBTM Store'n'go 6.51 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Aug 6 10:06:12 rebelion kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Aug 6 10:06:12 rebelion kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present seems to be this one: http://luhdc.berlios.de

USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-06 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I've updated usb/80361, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80361 because I have the same problem as well that an USB key attaches fine when plugged in at boot time, but not later: what makes me worry is that the problem was raised in 5.4-RC3 in 2005 and still exists in 7.0R

Re: USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ?ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-06 Thread Oliver Fromme
Matthias Apitz wrote: I've updated usb/80361, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80361 because I have the same problem as well that an USB key attaches fine when plugged in at boot time, but not later: I'm just wondering what happens if you enforce a rescan on the (virtual

Re: USB key kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ?ATTENTION, Medium not present

2008-08-06 Thread Gleb Kurtsou
On (06/08/2008 19:29), Oliver Fromme wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: I've updated usb/80361, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80361 because I have the same problem as well that an USB key attaches fine when plugged in at boot time, but not later: Situation here is somewhat

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Julian Elischer wrote: basically if you rely only on the standard posix interfaces and don't do anything exotic then you will probably be safe. the really safe way of course it to make a 6.0 chroot on your machine and compile your app there. For raw UNIX applications,

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:50:48 +0100 (BST) Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 May 2008, Julian Elischer wrote: basically if you rely only on the standard posix interfaces and don't do anything exotic then you will probably be safe. For raw UNIX applications, this rule of thumb

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 10 May 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:50:48 +0100 (BST) Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 May 2008, Julian Elischer wrote: basically if you rely only on the standard posix interfaces and don't do anything exotic then you will probably be safe. For raw

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-10 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 10 May 2008, Robert Watson wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:50:48 +0100 (BST) Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 May 2008, Julian Elischer wrote: basically if you rely only on the standard posix interfaces and don't do anything

binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Carl Shapiro
FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the binary will run on both previous and subsequent minor releases of the same major release? In

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
Carl Shapiro wrote: FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the binary will run on both previous and subsequent minor releases of the

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: Carl Shapiro wrote: FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the binary will run on both

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
Daniel Eischen wrote: Binaries compiled on a certain version of FreeBSD will continue to run on later versions, but are not guaranteed to run on earlier versions (and in fact *will* not run depending on the binary). This is because over time the system libraries and kernel grow new features

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Julian Elischer
Kris Kennaway wrote: Carl Shapiro wrote: FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the binary will run on both previous and subsequent

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
Julian Elischer wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Carl Shapiro wrote: FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the binary will run on both

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Julian Elischer
Kris Kennaway wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Carl Shapiro wrote: FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Carl Shapiro
Kris Julian Thank you for clarifiying the compatibility situation. This information was exactly what I was looking for. I have a follow-up question based on this remark... On 5/5/08, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually we don't attempt to keep this form of ABI compatibility

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
Carl Shapiro wrote: If my binary only executes system calls indirectly through libc interfaces, as far as libc and libm are concerned, are new symbols the only thing I need to worry about? I think so, yes. Kris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Guy Helmer
Carl Shapiro wrote: Kris Julian Thank you for clarifiying the compatibility situation. This information was exactly what I was looking for. I have a follow-up question based on this remark... On 5/5/08, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually we don't attempt to keep this form

Re: binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Julian Elischer
Carl Shapiro wrote: Kris Julian Thank you for clarifiying the compatibility situation. This information was exactly what I was looking for. I have a follow-up question based on this remark... On 5/5/08, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually we don't attempt to keep this form of

binary compatibility query

2008-05-05 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
FreeBSD Hackers, I have a general question about the compatibility of FreeBSD binaries within major releases. If I build a binary for a given release of FreeBSD can I make a reasonable guarantee that the binary will run on As a datapoint, I have been using cistron-radiusd for

Freebsd/Xen: pcifront: IRQ resource allocation failed: Query

2008-03-18 Thread sanket hase
Hi , I am a Masters student at Carnegie Mellon Uni, working on xen/freebsd opensource project. I have been working on pci-passtrhough support for freebsd domU. I am testing pcifront on freebsd domU using following sound card [ Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio

Freebsd/Xen: pcifront: IRQ resource allocation failed: Query

2008-03-18 Thread sanket hase
Hi All, I am a Masters student at Carnegie Mellon Uni, working on xen/freebsd opensource project. I have been working on pci-passtrhough support for freebsd domU. I am testing pcifront on freebsd domU using following sound card [ Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio

/usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query

2005-09-08 Thread Vizion
The makefile has the following lines: PHPBBDIR= ${WWWDOCROOT}/${PHPBBURL} PKGOPTS=${FILESDIR}/pkg-opts EXCEPTFILES=${PREFIX}/${PHPBBDIR}/install/install.php \ ${PREFIX}/${PHPBBDIR}/install/upgrade.php \

Re: /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query

2005-09-08 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 05:05:41PM -0700, Vizion wrote: The makefile has the following lines: PHPBBDIR= ${WWWDOCROOT}/${PHPBBURL} PKGOPTS= ${FILESDIR}/pkg-opts EXCEPTFILES= ${PREFIX}/${PHPBBDIR}/install/install.php \ ${PREFIX}/${PHPBBDIR}/install/upgrade.php \

Re: /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query

2005-09-08 Thread Vizion
On Thursday 08 September 2005 17:05, the author Vizion contributed to the dialogue on- /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query: The makefile has the following lines: PHPBBDIR= ${WWWDOCROOT}/${PHPBBURL} PKGOPTS= ${FILESDIR}/pkg-opts EXCEPTFILES= ${PREFIX}/${PHPBBDIR}/install

Fwd: Re: /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query

2005-09-08 Thread Vizion
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query Date: Thursday 08 September 2005 17:34 From: Vizion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Johann Visagie [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 08 September 2005

Re: /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query

2005-09-08 Thread Vizion
: /usr/ports/www/phpbb --? Makefile query: On Thursday 08 September 2005 17:23, you wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 05:05:41PM -0700, Vizion wrote: The makefile has the following lines: PHPBBDIR= ${WWWDOCROOT}/${PHPBBURL} PKGOPTS=${FILESDIR}/pkg-opts EXCEPTFILES=${PREFIX}/${PHPBBDIR

query cdrw tray

2004-12-17 Thread Ed Stover
Ok, this a good one for experts. How to I ask the CD burner if it's tray is open or closed? I am creating a automagical shell script to do semi-unattended backups and need to figure out how to make sure there is a cd in the tray before I start burning. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: query cdrw tray

2004-12-17 Thread Joan Picanyol
* Ed Stover [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20041217 13:12]: Ok, this a good one for experts. How to I ask the CD burner if it's tray is open or closed? I am creating a automagical shell script to do semi-unattended backups and need to figure out how to make sure there is a cd in the tray before I start

Re: query cdrw tray

2004-12-17 Thread Michael R. Wayne
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:11:52PM -0700, Ed Stover wrote: How to I ask the CD burner if it's tray is open or closed? I am creating a automagical shell script to do semi-unattended backups and need to figure out how to make sure there is a cd in the tray before I start burning. Any help

Re: IPSEC/NAT/Gateway Query

2004-03-13 Thread Karol Mares
Hi there, * Neil Fenemor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, I currently have an issue of how open the whole WiFi tends to be, so, as all good people should do, I've started implementing a IPSec encryption system rather than the rather disappointing WEP. I'm encrypting all data to and

IPSEC/NAT/Gateway Query

2004-03-12 Thread Neil Fenemor
Hi all, I currently have an issue of how open the whole WiFi tends to be, so, as all good people should do, I've started implementing a IPSec encryption system rather than the rather disappointing WEP. I'm encrypting all data to and from the gateway, which isn't a problem. This was documented

GDB - Query Section Offset

2003-06-10 Thread Raja Saleru
Hi, I have query related gdb and gdbserver communication. Query Section Offset(qOffset) This request sent by the gdb to determine what relocation, if any, the target applies to applications and data during the download process. Target responds with the offsets it applies to the application`s

Query shared libraries

2002-08-22 Thread Vinoth K Anandan
Is there a way to specify a function in a shared library as the main entry point for my C++ application instead of usual main function? -Vinoth To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

kernel file creation query...

2002-06-21 Thread Nitin Bahadur
Hi, This might be a lame query...but ... I am trying to create a file from kernel space given the vnode of the parent directory using VOP_CREATE. The code is as below. int make_file(struct vnode *dvp, struct vnode **vpp, struct proc *p, char *name) { struct componentname cnp

Query???????

2001-07-03 Thread kostas
Where can i find a hardware compatibility list for the x86 platform? Kostas Chortarias

Re: Query???????

2001-07-03 Thread Michael Lyngbøl
On 03.07.2001 22:39:15 +, kostas wrote: [doesn't this belong on -questions?] Where can i find a hardware compatibility list for the x86 platform? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.3-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT /Michael -- Michael Lyngbøl -- michael at lyngbol dot dk TDC Tele

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-28 Thread Bsdguru
In a message dated 06/28/2001 12:23:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally I don't care much about BSD vs. GPL and am annoyed by Microsoft's hypocricy (sp?). The fact that they're using open source software is great. That was the point I was trying to

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-28 Thread Andy
anyone seen this yet or am I slow as usual? http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2001/06/27/dotnet.html Ak To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-27 Thread Wes Peters
Rik van Riel wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Wes Peters wrote: Rik van Riel wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-26 Thread Wes Peters
Rik van Riel wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Wes Peters wrote: Rik van Riel wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff.

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-25 Thread Adam
Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in Interix, or are you just talking out your ass as usual? Substantiate? Look at the component list: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/features.asp Why should I substantiate it? Do it yourself if it bothers you. To

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-25 Thread Wes Peters
Rahul Siddharthan wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/interixinc.asp Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in Interix, or are

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-25 Thread Wes Peters
Mark Valentine wrote: No. The core SpiderTCP protocol implementation is _not_ derived from BSD. Some of the utilities which were added as the product was developed came from Net/1 or Net/2 (hence the FTP.EXE copyright string), but others such as route and netstat were written from

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wes Peters writes: Mark Valentine wrote: No. The core SpiderTCP protocol implementation is _not_ derived from BSD. [...] (NOTE: this was never sockets over TLI like the stuff some UNIX vendors bought from a Spider competitor!) *Cough*Lachman*cough*.

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-25 Thread Nate Williams
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/interixinc.asp Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in Interix, or are you just talking out

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-25 Thread James Nuckolls
In mailinglist.freebsd.hackers, you wrote: This is a good reference, but sadly it only really refers to the sockets paradigm as first popularized by BSD, which means they could have followed the API without touching a single line of BSD code. To reiterate: What I'm looking for is some true,

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-24 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in Interix, or are you just talking out your ass as

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-24 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: Wes Peters said on Jun 23, 2001 at 23:28:42: Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Can you substantiate your claim there is plenty of GNU stuff in

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-21 Thread Koster, K.J.
Dear Jordan, Bill Gates has jumped in to clarify OS vs. GPL surprisingly quickly after the publication in WSJ. Lee is my hero. Sort of the other way around. We were the several FreeBSD volunteers referenced in the article. Lee's my press contact at the WSJ and he's done a number of

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-21 Thread Rahul Siddharthan
Koster, K.J. said on Jun 21, 2001 at 10:24:24: Perhaps Lee can consider tracking down how much GLP lisenced software is used in companies in close proximity to Microsoft. While Microsoft is not going to be caught dead using it, http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/interixinc.asp

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-21 Thread Andy
OOPs ;) check http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-06-20-018-20-NW-MS-SW Ak Koster, K.J. said on Jun 21, 2001 at 10:24:24: Perhaps Lee can consider tracking down how much GLP lisenced software is used in companies in close proximity to Microsoft. While Microsoft is not going

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-21 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-06-20-018-20-NW-MS-SW Doesn't this mean software developed with Microsoft's SDK is viral? And doesn't *that* mean you're not allowed to develop it with Microsoft's SDK? And doesn't this sound a bit circular? DES --

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-21 Thread Rik van Riel
On 21 Jun 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-06-20-018-20-NW-MS-SW Doesn't this mean software developed with Microsoft's SDK is viral? And doesn't *that* mean you're not allowed to develop it with Microsoft's SDK?

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-21 Thread Mike Meyer
Rahul Siddharthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/interixinc.asp Plenty of GNU stuff there, though it doesn't say so explicitly. Of course, they say it's all meant only for legacy Unix stuff. Legacy being industry jargon for working. mike -- Mike

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-20 Thread Dave McKay
Jordan Hubbard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:16:20 +0200 It all sounds really odd to me but alas a cat does stupid things when it gets cornered... I

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dave McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010620 15:26] wrote: Jordan Hubbard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:16:20 +0200 It all sounds really odd to me but alas

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-20 Thread Peter
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6322264.html?tag=tp_pr Gates talks about GPL and being against it. ---Quote: In an interview Tuesday with CNET News.com at the TechEd 2001 conference, Gates observed that Microsoft routinely shares the source code for its Windows operating system with its

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-20 Thread Nick Sayer
Peter wrote: However, Gates said, there are problems for commercial users relative to the (GNU General Public License), and we are just making sure people understand the GPL. end Quote. But the issue is that wasn't the end of the quotation. Later on, Bubba says, And so people

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GPL is great for simple things, that don't create any standard, but work upon one. But as even RMS [I think it was RMS] agreed, BSD license is much better for 'standards'. -- ie the oog format was BSD licensed and the GPL people endorsed it because this would

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-19 Thread void
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 10:55:06PM -0400, Sergey Babkin wrote: Josef Karthauser wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is BSDI's stack so superior to any of the other BSDs that MS would pay BSDI for it, particularly at a time when BSDI was trying to

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Jordan Hubbard wrote: I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user utilities, and though it's always been common knowledge in the community that they were, when I set about to prove it I found it

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-19 Thread Terry Lambert
Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jun 15), Jordan Hubbard said: Thanks, that represents the first hard hit I've seen yet: root@winston- strings FTP.EXE |grep University of California @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. But this probably just

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-19 Thread Adam
An article over on www.Kuro5hin.org by a someone who claims to be a former MS employee describes the stack used in NT back in the early 90's as code which was liscensed from a company called 'Spider'. In the comp.unix.admin archives I found a post which references Spider QNIX as a *nix variant so

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-19 Thread Mark Valentine
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam) Date: Tue 19 Jun, 2001 Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? An article over on www.Kuro5hin.org by a someone who claims to be a former MS employee describes the stack used in NT back in the early 90's as code which

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is BSDI's stack so superior to any of the other BSDs that MS would pay BSDI for it, particularly at a time when BSDI was trying to compete with MS in the server market? Seems like something that a bunch of BSD fanatics

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Andy [Tecc Nops]
PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is BSDI's stack so superior to any of the other BSDs that MS would pay BSDI for it, particularly at a time when BSDI

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Andy [Tecc Nops]
jeez, forgot the link to WSJ http://public.wsj.com/news/hmc/sb992819157437237260.htm If this is what started this forgive me for being so unobservent, we're a bit slow here in the UK sometimes (well I am that is!) Ak Hmm, anyone seen this then in the Wall Street J ?? Or is this what

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Bsdguru
In a message dated 06/17/2001 2:27:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. We're not bashing Microsoft here. We're just trying to figure out if their recently published comments that Open Source is bad and inimical to our interests is really just marketspeak which

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Adam
I'm not sure if this will help or not but Winsock.h, Winsock2.h, and Ws2spi.h which are shipped with visual studio 6 include the following in the header: * This file includes parts which are Copyright (c) 1982-1986 Regents * of the University of California. All rights reserved. The *

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Jordan Hubbard
a help with this article. If nothing else, it finally got Microsoft to publically admit that we're STILL at Hotmail rather than saying, as they have in the past, that FreeBSD was completely removed and replaced with Windows. :-) - Jordan From: Andy [Tecc Nops] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Query

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Steve Tremblett
+ Adam wrote: | I'm not sure if this will help or not but Winsock.h, Winsock2.h, and Ws2spi.h | which are shipped with visual studio 6 include the following in the header: | | * This file includes parts which are Copyright (c) 1982-1986 Regents | * of the University of California. All

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-18 Thread Sergey Babkin
Josef Karthauser wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is BSDI's stack so superior to any of the other BSDs that MS would pay BSDI for it, particularly at a time when BSDI was trying to compete with MS in the server market? Seems like something that a

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user utilities, and though it's always been common knowledge in the community that they were, when I set about to

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-17 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:16:20PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user utilities, and though it's always been common

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-17 Thread Jordan Hubbard
From: Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:16:20 +0200 It all sounds really odd to me but alas a cat does stupid things when it gets cornered... I sincerely hope that you BSD guysgals stay far far

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-17 Thread Jeroen Massar
Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all sounds really odd to me but alas a cat does stupid things when it gets cornered... I sincerely hope that you BSD guysgals stay far far away from the microsoft is evil, we can't win it easily so let's

RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-17 Thread Brian Wolter
microsoft is evil, we can't win it easily so let's bash it to microsoft /is/ evil. point in fact they're one of the most unethical capitalist organizations you could find as far as their business practices are concerned. unfortunately, the masses are also too stupid to protect themselves.

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-17 Thread Greg Black
Sergey Babkin wrote: | Brian Wolter wrote: | |microsoft is evil, we can't win it easily so let's bash it to | | microsoft /is/ evil. point in fact they're one of the most unethical | ^^^ | capitalist organizations you

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-16 Thread David O'Brien
name names, but suffice it to say that it will be a small (and very visible) coup for us if we can help them prove this. Thanks. - Jordan From: Joseph A. Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:06:23 -0400

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-16 Thread Drew Eckhardt
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't any one remember Netiquette these days and trim what they are replying to?? No. Every month is September. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-16 Thread diman
Hi, I agree with Serger Babkin - strings(1) wouldn't help. Main keywords are: ndis.vxd , vip.386 , vtcp.386 . Any DLL's has nothing common with TCP/IP stack - at least on md 9x. Sergey Babkin wrote: I know one way but it's a hard one: disassemble and manually decomiple the code and

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-16 Thread Mark Valentine
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jordan Hubbard) Date: Fri 15 Jun, 2001 Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? root@winston- strings FTP.EXE |grep University of California @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. You can't tell much from

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-16 Thread Bsdguru
is BSDI's stack so superior to any of the other BSDs that MS would pay BSDI for it, particularly at a time when BSDI was trying to compete with MS in the server market? Seems like something that a bunch of BSD fanatics conjured up after a few beers. Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-16 Thread Daniel Kim
In the previous episode, Jordan Hubbard said: Not really, I don't have any contacts there. Sigh. I didn't think proving this would be quite so hard. :( If you issue the following command on hub: % grep microsoft.com freebsd-* 2/dev/null you may be able to find some contacts there.

Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-15 Thread Jordan Hubbard
I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user utilities, and though it's always been common knowledge in the community that they were, when I set about to prove it I found it to be less easy than I'd

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-15 Thread Steve B.
What I read awhile back was MS licensed from BSDi their TCP/IP stack for use in W2K. Steve B. - Original Message - From: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? I've

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-15 Thread Jordan Hubbard
Do you have a pointer to what you read? I really need HARD evidence here, not just anecdotal stuff. Thanks! - Jordan From: Steve B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0700 What I read awhile back was MS

Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?

2001-06-15 Thread Joseph A. Mallett
Do you happen to have any of their Winsock propoganda handy (specifically developer materials or winsock.h header file)? I know for a fact that they have said repetedly that some of it was taken directly from Berkely. I'm just not sure where... I'm going to start digging through my stuff to see

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